Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, and avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the " less than pleasant " taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..) I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the taste, and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted red grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. direct ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a regrowth of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to (should) do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-) Best wishes, Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Oh bless your heart Stephen, I also know that Vitamin B12 is more effective when taken sublingually, but as to your other questions, I am afraid I cannot answer them. Tony is away from his computer at the moment and will reply to you as soon as he returns, as I am sure will Dr. Goebel. As for the taste...... Try Pomegranate Juice instead of grape juice. It seems to kill the taste much better. You may not notice hardly any taste at all. And another pointer with regard to taking oleander soup, to kill the taste. Try not to breathe. This seems to help. Hugs, oleander soup , " scyo2 " <scyo2 wrote: > > I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, and > avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the " less than > pleasant " taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..) > > I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the taste, > and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted red > grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only > noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. > > My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. direct > ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered > sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others > concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a regrowth > of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to (should) > do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-) > > Best wishes, > Stephen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Sublingual doses are generally in the micrograms. You are using much more than that if you take a teaspoon or tablespoon. The most important thing is just to get it into your mouth and swallow it. Don't split hairs regarding most efficacious administration methods for now.I put the tablespoon in my mouth, swallow, and immediately chase it with 4 to 16 ounces of water. Sometime I use green tea for the chaser; it doesn't take as many swallows to be rid of the taste.Dr. Goebel May <luellamay129 wrote: Oh bless your heart Stephen, I also know that Vitamin B12 is more effective when taken sublingually, but as to your other questions, I am afraid I cannot answer them. Tony is away from his computer at the moment and will reply to you as soon as he returns, as I am sure will Dr. Goebel. As for the taste...... Try Pomegranate Juice instead of grape juice. It seems to kill the taste much better. You may not notice hardly any taste at all. And another pointer with regard to taking oleander soup, to kill the taste. Try not to breathe. This seems to help. Hugs, oleander soup , "scyo2" <scyo2 wrote: > > I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, and > avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the "less than > pleasant" taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..) > > I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the taste, > and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted red > grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only > noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. > > My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. direct > ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered > sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others > concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a regrowth > of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to (should) > do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-) > > Best wishes, > Stephen > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 On the other hand, if you do as I do and suggest, then you simply take half the dose under the tongue (there is virtually no taste under the tongue, it is when you swallow that the bitter taste comes in) and mis the rest with a few ounces of juice, such as pomegranate or dark grape and then take a good swallow of the juice mix to down the sublinqual part with, you will scarcely notice the taste and the rest of the mixed juice will taste quite pleasant. I agree that the main thing is just to swallow the stuff down, but do it the way I suggest and you can have the best of both worlds with hardly any unpleasantness at all - certainly much more pleasant than downing the dose straight and then chasing it. oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > Sublingual doses are generally in the micrograms. You are using much more than that if you take a teaspoon or tablespoon. > > The most important thing is just to get it into your mouth and swallow it. Don't split hairs regarding most efficacious administration methods for now. > > I put the tablespoon in my mouth, swallow, and immediately chase it with 4 to 16 ounces of water. Sometime I use green tea for the chaser; it doesn't take as many swallows to be rid of the taste. > > Dr. Goebel > > May <luellamay129 wrote: Oh bless your heart Stephen, I also know that Vitamin B12 is more > effective when taken sublingually, but as to your other questions, I > am afraid I cannot answer them. Tony is away from his computer at > the moment and will reply to you as soon as he returns, as I am sure > will Dr. Goebel. > > As for the taste...... Try Pomegranate Juice instead of grape > juice. It seems to kill the taste much better. You may not notice > hardly any taste at all. And another pointer with regard to taking > oleander soup, to kill the taste. Try not to breathe. This seems to > help. > > Hugs, > > > oleander soup , " scyo2 " <scyo2@> wrote: > > > > I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, > and > > avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the " less than > > pleasant " taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..) > > > > I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the > taste, > > and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted > red > > grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only > > noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. > > > > My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. > direct > > ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered > > sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others > > concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a > regrowth > > of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to > (should) > > do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-) > > > > Best wishes, > > Stephen > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ok, May. i have a question and please dont laugh because i really dont know. what the word (sublingually means.) regards Mary - May oleander soup Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:35 AM Re: Question - Sublingual vs. Ingestion Oh bless your heart Stephen, I also know that Vitamin B12 is more effective when taken sublingually, but as to your other questions, I am afraid I cannot answer them. Tony is away from his computer at the moment and will reply to you as soon as he returns, as I am sure will Dr. Goebel.As for the taste...... Try Pomegranate Juice instead of grape juice. It seems to kill the taste much better. You may not notice hardly any taste at all. And another pointer with regard to taking oleander soup, to kill the taste. Try not to breathe. This seems to help.Hugs,oleander soup , "scyo2" <scyo2 wrote:>> I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, and > avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the "less than > pleasant" taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..)> > I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the taste, > and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted red > grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only > noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. > > My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. direct > ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered > sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others > concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a regrowth > of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to (should) > do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-)> > Best wishes,> Stephen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Mary, Sublingual means "under the tongue".. i.e. the method of placing a substance (usually a liquid) under the tongue to absorb it. Bright blessings, StephenMaria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote: Ok, May. i have a question and please dont laugh because i really dont know. what the word (sublingually means.) regards Mary - May oleander soup Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:35 AM Re: Question - Sublingual vs. Ingestion Oh bless your heart Stephen, I also know that Vitamin B12 is more effective when taken sublingually, but as to your other questions, I am afraid I cannot answer them. Tony is away from his computer at the moment and will reply to you as soon as he returns, as I am sure will Dr. Goebel.As for the taste...... Try Pomegranate Juice instead of grape juice. It seems to kill the taste much better. You may not notice hardly any taste at all. And another pointer with regard to taking oleander soup, to kill the taste. Try not to breathe. This seems to help.Hugs,oleander soup , "scyo2" <scyo2 wrote:>> I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, and > avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the "less than > pleasant" taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..)> > I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the taste, > and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted red > grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only > noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. > > My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. direct > ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered > sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others > concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a regrowth > of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to (should) > do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-)> > Best wishes,> Stephen> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Under the tongue. There is a network of veins under the tongue very close to the skin surface. Some molecules can be readily absorbed into the veins. Hence exists sublingual absorption.Dr. GoebelMaria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote: Ok, May. i have a question and please dont laugh because i really dont know. what the word (sublingually means.) regards Mary - May oleander soup Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:35 AM Re: Question - Sublingual vs. Ingestion Oh bless your heart Stephen, I also know that Vitamin B12 is more effective when taken sublingually, but as to your other questions, I am afraid I cannot answer them. Tony is away from his computer at the moment and will reply to you as soon as he returns, as I am sure will Dr. Goebel.As for the taste...... Try Pomegranate Juice instead of grape juice. It seems to kill the taste much better. You may not notice hardly any taste at all. And another pointer with regard to taking oleander soup, to kill the taste. Try not to breathe. This seems to help.Hugs,oleander soup , "scyo2" <scyo2 wrote:>> I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, and > avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the "less than > pleasant" taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..)> > I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the taste, > and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted red > grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only > noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. > > My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. direct > ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered > sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others > concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a regrowth > of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to (should) > do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-)> > Best wishes,> Stephen> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Thank you very much- Michael. Mary - Michael Goebel oleander soup Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:27 PM Re: Re: Question - Sublingual vs. Ingestion Under the tongue. There is a network of veins under the tongue very close to the skin surface. Some molecules can be readily absorbed into the veins. Hence exists sublingual absorption.Dr. GoebelMaria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Ok, May. i have a question and please dont laugh because i really dont know. what the word (sublingually means.) regards Mary - May oleander soup Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:35 AM Re: Question - Sublingual vs. Ingestion Oh bless your heart Stephen, I also know that Vitamin B12 is more effective when taken sublingually, but as to your other questions, I am afraid I cannot answer them. Tony is away from his computer at the moment and will reply to you as soon as he returns, as I am sure will Dr. Goebel.As for the taste...... Try Pomegranate Juice instead of grape juice. It seems to kill the taste much better. You may not notice hardly any taste at all. And another pointer with regard to taking oleander soup, to kill the taste. Try not to breathe. This seems to help.Hugs,oleander soup , "scyo2" <scyo2 wrote:>> I am on my 3rd day or so of taking the oleander soup sublingually, and > avoided it for quite a while yesterday because of the "less than > pleasant" taste and mouth feel (like a VERY tannic red wine..)> > I noticed a reference to mixing the soup with juice to cut the taste, > and plunked 1/4 teaspoon into about 2/3 cup of freshly extracted red > grape juice this morning. I had no trouble drinking it, and only > noticed the taste vaguely over the taste of the grapes. > > My question is this.. how important is the sublingual route vs. direct > ingestion? I know that vitamin B12 is more potent delivered > sublingually, but are there any studies / experiences from others > concerning this. Trying to avoid a 2nd round of chemo for a regrowth > of skull tissue tumor from burkitt's lymphoma, so if I have to (should) > do sublingual, I certainly will.. but YUCK! :-)> > Best wishes,> Stephen> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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