Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 What kind of silver are you using? Superior colloidal silver such as Utopia Silver's Advanced Colloidal Silver (made like no other Silver in the world - only two companies have the technology) is deadly to almost ALL single cell pathogens, and has been tested to kill over 650, including MRSA, strep, you name it, and it kills them all via the same mechanism: The presence of Colloidal Silver near a virus, fungus, bacterium, or any other single-celled pathogen acts as a catalyst in order to disable those enzymes that pathogenic (disease-bearing) bacteria, viruses and fungi require for the metabolism of oxygen in order to breathe. As a result, within a few minutes these microbes either starve or suffocate without any corresponding harm towards the various parts of the human body chemistry, including human enzymes. This leads to the complete destruction of any disease-producing organism in the body, which are expelled from the body by the immune, lymphatic and elimination systems. True colloidal silver (most are ionic) is able to get past the hydrochloric acid in the stomach much better and thus reach the infection, where ionic silver is released. Viral infections, resistant infections and systemic infections may require considerably larger amounts for a number of days. oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote: > > Tony, > > I understand the mechinism of action of silver against Bacteria. Silver acts on bacteria by generating oxygen from air or water which in turn destroys the cell wall membranes of bacteria (single celled organisms with fragile cell walls). I have not ever heard a good explaination of how Silver works on viruses and have had no success with Silver on what have been apparent viruses among my family and friends. I am supposing that the cold symptoms that friends and family have had have been viral, and I have had no success with the CS on these viral illnesses. I have however seen it work very effectively on Bacterial Sinusitis, Bacterial Pink Eye, Superficial infections, and Food Poisoning. What is your take on this? Have you or anyone else been able to effectively knock out any and all viruses (colds/flu/HIV/Hepititis B, etc.). I appreciate your comments. > > Blessings to you, > > Jeff > > Tony wrote: > Put another way, an immune system cannot be too strong, but could be > overstimulated. > > Good point. > > For maintenance purposes (when not fighting a serious disease or > condition), it makes no sense to really overload your system with > immune boosters and stimulators, but it is always a good idea to > maintain a very strong immune system > > As Jon Barron pointed out, in the event of a pandemic of bird flu, it > would be a good idea to have some good anti-virals and pathogen > fighters around too. > > Colloidal silver is hard to beat when fighting any single celled > pathogen, viral or bacterial. > > > > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote: > > > > different perspective: > > An immune system cannot be too strong. The question is does is it > properly act in accordance w/ need (physiology) or react > inappropriately with need (pathology). > > > > The problem is not too much power, but rather how to properly apply it. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > ed4soup <ed4636@> wrote: Tony, > that's a great article, well worth the space and time to read. > > Medical question to answer: How do you test the strength of your > > immune system, and monitor it to insure it's not operating on too high > > a level? If Jon Barron's right, this is important. I suspect with > > OS, like vitamin C, the body absorbs what it needs and disregards the > > rest. Our brain is very sensitive to chemical balances, and makes > > adjustments immediately if it detect an overage, ie: ph of blood, > > oxygen ratios, etc. > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Cost of a Strong Immune System > > > > > > by Jon Barron > > > > > > Okay, so having a strong immune system is good...you would think? > The > > > stronger the better...right? You should be buying whatever > supplements > > > you can lay your hands on to pump up your immune response...who > could > > > argue with that? > > > > > > As it turns out, not necessarily. It seems that too much of a good > > > thing, in some circumstances, may actually be bad for you. Last > month, > > > a study was published in Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology > > > > <http://www.adz2go.com/mailmgt/Url.asp?CID=81896 & HID=8048916 & UID=121362> > > > that just might explain why the obvious ain't necessarily so. > > > Bird behavior > > > The reason for the study was an observation that when it comes to > > > raising children, extended family units, or what is referred to as > > > " cooperative breeding " is not that common. At first glance, shared > > > rearing of offspring would seem to provide a host of natural > advantages. > > > It better defines the home/nest. It allows for more food to be > gathered, > > > better care to be taken of the young, not to mention, offering the > > > potential for better education. And yet, in most species it just > doesn't > > > happen. Think lions and bears, for example. The cubs are raised > by the > > > mothers alone -- lest the fathers kill the cubs. In fact, infanticide > > > has been found in many species, including gorillas, cats, dogs, > whales, > > > rodents, insects and fish. The bottom line is that among species, > > > cooperative breeding is the exception, not the rule -- common > primarily > > > in humans and birds. So the question arises, with all its " apparent " > > > advantages , why do so few species do it? > > > > > > As it turns out, the benefits of cooperative breeding come with > a cost. > > > Or to put it another way, the benefits of cooperative breeding > extend > > > not only to the immediate species, but also to the pathogens and > > > parasites that plague them. Quite simply: > > > > > > * Because of all the close contact among family members in > > > cooperative breeding, there is more interaction among > > > individuals, thus more chance for transmission of the > pathogens. > > > * Since the interaction is with close relatives, they share > > > similar immune system capabilities -- their bodies are > actually > > > selectively breeding parasites better able to overcome those > > > capabilities. (Any parasites that survive, by definition, > survive > > > because they can resist those capabilities.) > > > > > > As Dr. Spottiswoode, the lead researcher in the study said, " This > > > hypothesis predicts that cooperative breeders should invest > relatively > > > more in immune defense than closely related species which breed in > > > pairs. " > > > > > > She tested her hypothesis by examining the PHA response > > > > <http://www.adz2go.com/mailmgt/Url.asp?CID=81896 & HID=8048916 & UID=121363> > > > of the immune system in different species of African birds. The > actual > > > methodology was to inject the birds with phytohaemagglutinin > (PHA), a > > > substance that induces an immune reaction. In particular, when > PHA is > > > inserted under the skin of a bird's wing, it causes minor > swelling. Dr > > > Spottiswoode reasoned that the amount of swelling from a dose of PHA > > > would reveal the activity of a bird's immune system. The more > at risk > > > the bird was, the more swiftly its immune system would respond > to any > > > challenge, and the greater that response would be. That response, > > > however, comes at a price. The stronger the response, the greater > the > > > swelling. The greater the swelling, the greater the immune stress on > > > the bird and the more energy its immune system ended up using to > fight > > > off the effects of pathogens. The bottom line was that among 66 > species > > > tested, the PHA response was significantly higher in the 18 > > > cooperatively breeding species. Based on Dr. Spottiswoode's > hypothesis, > > > these results suggest that cooperatively breeding birds, because of > > > their increased exposure to more virulent pathogens, had developed > > > " stronger " immune systems than non-cooperative breeders. But these > > > stronger immune systems came at a cost: > > > > > > * Greater immune stress > > > * More use of body resources > > > * Increased inflammation > > > > > > Although Dr Spottiswoode's research focused on birds, the > principle is > > > likely to apply to other cooperative breeders such as human beings. > > > Indeed, the evidence is that many human infections -- malaria, > measles > > > and flu, for example -- stem from the crowded living conditions > shared > > > by modern man. As a result, we see more virulent infections, > stronger > > > immune responses, and greater stress on the body. This gives a whole > > > new meaning to Hilary Clinton's line, " It takes a village. " > > > Where do we see this in humans? > > > Back in August of 2005, I first addressed the issue of Bird Flu > > > > <http://www.adz2go.com/mailmgt/Url.asp?CID=81896 & HID=8048916 & UID=121364> > > > (although at the time, despite the beginnings of the media frenzy, I > > > said that I didn't see it as an imminent threat -- which it > turned out > > > not to be.). More importantly, though, I proposed that contrary > to most > > > of the advice you would hear in the alternative health community, > > > building your immune system could be a major contributing factor in > > > mortality rates if bird flu did hit. As I said back then: > > > > > > * Many alternative health companies are trying to tell > you to > > > boost your immune system to protect yourself. That's a > > > questionable tactic with bird flu -- at least if not > accompanied > > > by the use of pathogen destroyers. Death from bird flu is most > > > likely to come from a cytokine storm triggered by your own immune > > > system, not from the flu itself. This is the same situation > we saw > > > in the great influenza pandemic of 1918/1919. > > > > > > And now, thanks to Dr. Spottiswoode's study, we have an idea as > to why > > > this happens. In the case of bird flu, the stronger immune > response of > > > " healthy " people exacts too great a cost on the human body -- > literally > > > killing it by virtue of its overreaction. Or to put it another way, > > > the cost of an extremely strong immune response is too high. > > > > > > It's interesting that almost three years later, and even with > the new > > > study now available for all to see, little has changed. Medical > > > doctors still tell you to get flu shots to protect yourself (even > though > > > they are, at best, only marginally effective > > > > <http://www.adz2go.com/mailmgt/Url.asp?CID=81896 & HID=8048916 & UID=121365> > > > ), and people in the alternative health community still tell you to > > > build your immune system (so that your body can be overtaxed > and die). > > > It's not just flu > > > Once we understand the problem -- that an overly strong immune > system > > > forced to address pathogens at full viral or bacterial load is an > > > unbalanced immune system and will exact a cost on the body, we > realize > > > that the problem is likely to be endemic and appear in many > different > > > forms (some fatal and others not) in many different people. And it > > > does. For example: > > > > > > * Endemic immune system disorders > > > * A significant increase in diseases/symptoms such as > > > fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue > > > * Chronic systemic inflammation in joints, muscles, and > > > cardiovascular systems. (Remember, just like in the birds, > > > inflammation is an immune system response.) > > > Conclusion > > > Dr. Spottiswoode conducted her experiments to better understand > why more > > > animals didn't have extended families since doing so appeared to > offer > > > great benefits. In the end, she went a long way to proving her > > > hypothesis that extended families demand much more active immune > > > systems from individuals, which extracts a heavy cost on the body. > > > Kudos to Dr. Spottiswoode. For me, though, I see other important > > > information coming from this study -- information that can alter how > > > you choose to " optimize " your immune system and prepare for any > invading > > > pathogens. What the study showed, if you look from a slightly > different > > > perspective, is that when it comes to the immune system, more is not > > > always better. Improving the strength of the immune system comes > at a > > > cost. Optimizing the immune system, then, comes down to " cost > benefit > > > analysis. " > > > > > > The bottom line is yes, you want your immune system to respond > strongly > > > to any pathogens -- but not too strongly. If it responds too > strongly, > > > the costs can outweigh the benefits. An overactive immune system can > > > lead to: > > > > > > * Sustained systemic inflammation > > > * Autoimmune disorders > > > * Overactive responses to allergens > > > * Even death, as in the case of avian flu > > > > > > So exactly what does that mean: > > > > > > * It means that you do want to use immune builders such as > > > * Echinacea > > > * Pau d'arco > > > * Suma > > > * Astragalus > > > * Medicinal mushrooms > > > * AHCC > > > * Beta glucans > > > * Aloe vera > > > * Alkyglycerol > > > * Lactoferrin > > > * Bovine colostrums > > > * Glutathione > > > * Mangosteen > > > * Colostrum > > > > > > * But it means you also want a supply of natural antipathogens on > > > hand to ratchet down the need for a high level immune system > response. > > > * Garlic > > > * Olive leaf extract > > > * Oil of wild mountain oregano > > > * Grapefruit seed extract > > > > > > * It's also a good idea to regularly supplement with natural > > > immunomodulators that help to regulate immune response - moving > a weak > > > immune system up and calming an overactive immune system down. These > > > include > > > * L-carnosine > > > * Colostrum > > > * CMO > > > > > > > > > When it comes to fighting disease and staying healthy, your immune > > > system is your best friend. You want the strongest immune system > > > response you can have without it being so strong that it > overtaxes the > > > body. If you can tone down the strength of the pathogenic > attack, then > > > a strong immune system works in your favor -- finishing off the > > > invading little buggers as quickly as possible, but without the > need to > > > drain down your reserves. But if you don't ratchet down the > strength > > > of the attack, your immune system actually works against you -- > causing > > > chronic inflammation, immune system disorders, overactive allergy > > > responses, or as in the case of avian flu, potentially killing you. > > > > > > For more information on how to boost your immune system AND what > > > anti-pathogens to stockpile and use: > > > > > > * Click Here > > > > <http://www.adz2go.com/mailmgt/Url.asp?CID=81896 & HID=8048916 & UID=121366> > > > . > > > > > > To understand why antibiotics and antivirals aren't going to > save you: > > > > > > * Click Here > > > > <http://www.adz2go.com/mailmgt/Url.asp?CID=81896 & HID=8048916 & UID=121367> > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search. > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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