Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Can you explain a bit further what you mean by " in liver failure " ? Hs his liver failed, is it in the process of failing according to his doctors, meaning getting worse? And if so, how far gone do they say it is? The liver is rather amazing in it's power's to regenerate - and can be virtually destroyed down to about 27% and still completely regenerate. My first suggestion is to take at look at the Berkson clinical study at http://tbyil.com/berkson.htm where milk thistle (silymarin), alpha lipoic acid and selenium, along with healthy changes in diet, lifestyle and exercise was 100% successful with three women who faced transplants, harsh chemo or death. Beet juice and coconut oil are also good for the liver, as is a diet that is mostly raw vegetable and some raw fruits - at least until the liver is healthy again, and I would consider liver cleanses as well. Finally, the main subject of this group, oleander, has been very beneficial for liver regeneration and protection as well in my opinion. Welcome to the group, oleander soup , " tmrsfitz1967 " <tmrsfitz1967 wrote: > > Ok my husband is in liver failure and there is so so much info out > there I can not count...but this sounded interesting when I came > across the web site...he has had chemo and radiation.UKKKKK and just > had a blood transfusion yesterday he is enimic....he is only 48 and it > iwill be 2 years in March that he was diagnosed....Can you give me > some good advice I have him on Milk thisle and LIV .52 and also in > Immuniocal:-) forget the chemo CRAP..... > Thanks so much Tammy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I have him on LIV52 and Milk thisle and immunocal right now with flaxseed and cottage chz?? but he just recieved a blood trans and it is supposed to make him have more energy and to me it looks like it did the oppisite??? He is in bed half of the day and just last night he needed me to take him to the bath room:-(...I put you on my IM so we could chat if you get on line ...Thanks Tony Tammy Fitzgeraldoleander soup Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:07:17 AM Liver problems Can you explain a bit further what you mean by "in liver failure"? Hs his liver failed, is it in the process of failing according to his doctors, meaning getting worse? And if so, how far gone do they say it is? The liver is rather amazing in it's power's to regenerate - and can be virtually destroyed down to about 27% and still completely regenerate. My first suggestion is to take at look at the Berkson clinical study at http://tbyil. com/berkson. htm where milk thistle (silymarin), alpha lipoic acid and selenium, along with healthy changes in diet, lifestyle and exercise was 100% successful with three women who faced transplants, harsh chemo or death. Beet juice and coconut oil are also good for the liver, as is a diet that is mostly raw vegetable and some raw fruits - at least until the liver is healthy again, and I would consider liver cleanses as well. Finally, the main subject of this group, oleander, has been very beneficial for liver regeneration and protection as well in my opinion. Welcome to the group, oleander soup, "tmrsfitz1967" <tmrsfitz1967@ ...> wrote: > > Ok my husband is in liver failure and there is so so much info out > there I can not count...but this sounded interesting when I came > across the web site...he has had chemo and radiation.UKKKKK and just > had a blood transfusion yesterday he is enimic....he is only 48 and it > iwill be 2 years in March that he was diagnosed... .Can you give me > some good advice I have him on Milk thisle and LIV .52 and also in > Immuniocal:- ) forget the chemo CRAP..... > Thanks so much Tammy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 What you are doing sounds pretty good. Certainly the milk thistle is - I am not that familiar with the other items, though I wonder a bit about the cottage cheese when the liver is supposedly " in failure " (and I know that it and flaxseed oil are part of the Budwig diet I have great respect for). Insofar as feeling bad, there is a thing called the Herxheimer Effect, where the healing makes you feel worse before you feel better (there is an article here in the files section and one on my website I pointed you to earlier. Excessive sleeping can be a sign of the body healing itself. Again, what did the doctors say regarding his liver being " in failure " ? I will be happy to chat when time permits. oleander soup , Tammy Fitzgerald <tmrsfitz1967 wrote: > > I have him on LIV52 and Milk thisle and immunocal right now with flaxseed and cottage chz?? but he just recieved a blood trans and it is supposed to make him have more energy and to me it looks like it did the oppisite??? He is in bed half of the day and just last night he needed me to take him to the bath room:-(...I put you on my IM so we could chat if you get on line ... > Thanks > > Tammy Fitzgerald > > > Tony > oleander soup > Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:07:17 AM > Liver problems > > > > > > > > Can you explain a bit further what you mean by " in liver failure " ? Hs > > his liver failed, is it in the process of failing according to his > > doctors, meaning getting worse? And if so, how far gone do they say it is? > > > > The liver is rather amazing in it's power's to regenerate - and can be > > virtually destroyed down to about 27% and still completely regenerate. > > > > My first suggestion is to take at look at the Berkson clinical study at > > http://tbyil. com/berkson. htm > > > > where milk thistle (silymarin), alpha lipoic acid and selenium, along > > with healthy changes in diet, lifestyle and exercise was 100% > > successful with three women who faced transplants, harsh chemo or death. > > > > Beet juice and coconut oil are also good for the liver, as is a diet > > that is mostly raw vegetable and some raw fruits - at least until the > > liver is healthy again, and I would consider liver cleanses as well. > > > > Finally, the main subject of this group, oleander, has been very > > beneficial for liver regeneration and protection as well in my opinion. > > > > Welcome to the group, > > > > > > > > oleander soup, " tmrsfitz1967 " <tmrsfitz1967@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > Ok my husband is in liver failure and there is so so much info out > > > there I can not count...but this sounded interesting when I came > > > across the web site...he has had chemo and radiation.UKKKKK and just > > > had a blood transfusion yesterday he is enimic....he is only 48 and it > > > iwill be 2 years in March that he was diagnosed... .Can you give me > > > some good advice I have him on Milk thisle and LIV .52 and also in > > > Immuniocal:- ) forget the chemo CRAP..... > > > Thanks so much Tammy > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom:10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family:Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin:4;} > --> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hello, This is Ivan konstantinov back again. May be this can help see your selves and research more. Here I tell you about Philip Perjiy an immigrant from Moldova ( one of the former Soviet Union Republics). He lives presently here in California Sacramento more exactly Rancho Cordova. He is Moldovian man He doesn't try to learn English due to his age (over sixty) So you wouldn't be able to contact him. His daughter is married and lives separately though sees him and mom all the time. You will have to rely solely on what I tell you. Again do some research on what I tell here. Philip had failing liver when he was some forty plus years old, he is Christian and couldn't understand why as he never used to drink.(except water) The professor who saw him told him that they have some drugs and could fix him temporarily which was not what Philip wanted. Then the professor told him I will tell you to do something but you have to keep you mouth shut because as a doctor of medicine I can not do such "prescriptions" The professor told Philip to eat every day up to two pounds of dark plums that are of oval shape. Though plums are very strong laxative Philip managed to eat them every day for over three months. His liver completely regenerated from what he tells. Again I do not push anybody for any type of remedy just share the experience of what has been told. And Philip is credible of trust source. Tammy Fitzgerald <tmrsfitz1967 wrote: I have him on LIV52 and Milk thisle and immunocal right now with flaxseed and cottage chz?? but he just recieved a blood trans and it is supposed to make him have more energy and to me it looks like it did the oppisite??? He is in bed half of the day and just last night he needed me to take him to the bath room:-(...I put you on my IM so we could chat if you get on line ...Thanks Tony Tammy Fitzgerald Tony >oleander soup Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:07:17 AM Liver problems Can you explain a bit further what you mean by "in liver failure"? Hshis liver failed, is it in the process of failing according to hisdoctors, meaning getting worse? And if so, how far gone do they say it is?The liver is rather amazing in it's power's to regenerate - and can bevirtually destroyed down to about 27% and still completely regenerate. My first suggestion is to take at look at the Berkson clinical study athttp://tbyil. com/berkson. htmwhere milk thistle (silymarin), alpha lipoic acid and selenium, alongwith healthy changes in diet, lifestyle and exercise was 100%successful with three women who faced transplants, harsh chemo or death.Beet juice and coconut oil are also good for the liver, as is a dietthat is mostly raw vegetable and some raw fruits - at least until theliver is healthy again, and I would consider liver cleanses as well.Finally, the main subject of this group, oleander, has been verybeneficial for liver regeneration and protection as well in my opinion.Welcome to the group,Tonyoleander soup, "tmrsfitz1967" <tmrsfitz1967@ ...>wrote:>> Ok my husband is in liver failure and there is so so much info out> there I can not count...but this sounded interesting when I came> across the web site...he has had chemo and radiation.UKKKKK and just> had a blood transfusion yesterday he is enimic....he is only 48 and it> iwill be 2 years in March that he was diagnosed... .Can you give me> some good advice I have him on Milk thisle and LIV .52 and also in> Immuniocal:- ) forget the chemo CRAP..... > Thanks so much Tammy> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hello Ivan, That is a very interesting story. Thanks for sharing it with us. Blessings to you, JeffIvan Konstantinov <konstantinov wrote: Hello, This is Ivan konstantinov back again. May be this can help see your selves and research more. Here I tell you about Philip Perjiy an immigrant from Moldova ( one of the former Soviet Union Republics). He lives presently here in California Sacramento more exactly Rancho Cordova. He is Moldovian man He doesn't try to learn English due to his age (over sixty) So you wouldn't be able to contact him. His daughter is married and lives separately though sees him and mom all the time. You will have to rely solely on what I tell you. Again do some research on what I tell here. Philip had failing liver when he was some forty plus years old, he is Christian and couldn't understand why as he never used to drink.(except water) The professor who saw him told him that they have some drugs and could fix him temporarily which was not what Philip wanted. Then the professor told him I will tell you to do something but you have to keep you mouth shut because as a doctor of medicine I can not do such "prescriptions" The professor told Philip to eat every day up to two pounds of dark plums that are of oval shape. Though plums are very strong laxative Philip managed to eat them every day for over three months. His liver completely regenerated from what he tells. Again I do not push anybody for any type of remedy just share the experience of what has been told. And Philip is credible of trust source. Tammy Fitzgerald <tmrsfitz1967 > wrote: I have him on LIV52 and Milk thisle and immunocal right now with flaxseed and cottage chz?? but he just recieved a blood trans and it is supposed to make him have more energy and to me it looks like it did the oppisite??? He is in bed half of the day and just last night he needed me to take him to the bath room:-(...I put you on my IM so we could chat if you get on line ...Thanks Tony Tammy Fitzgerald Tony >oleander soup Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:07:17 AM Liver problems Can you explain a bit further what you mean by "in liver failure"? Hshis liver failed, is it in the process of failing according to hisdoctors, meaning getting worse? And if so, how far gone do they say it is?The liver is rather amazing in it's power's to regenerate - and can bevirtually destroyed down to about 27% and still completely regenerate. My first suggestion is to take at look at the Berkson clinical study athttp://tbyil. com/berkson. htmwhere milk thistle (silymarin), alpha lipoic acid and selenium, alongwith healthy changes in diet, lifestyle and exercise was 100%successful with three women who faced transplants, harsh chemo or death.Beet juice and coconut oil are also good for the liver, as is a dietthat is mostly raw vegetable and some raw fruits - at least until theliver is healthy again, and I would consider liver cleanses as well.Finally, the main subject of this group, oleander, has been verybeneficial for liver regeneration and protection as well in my opinion.Welcome to the group,Tonyoleander soup, "tmrsfitz1967" <tmrsfitz1967@ ...>wrote:>> Ok my husband is in liver failure and there is so so much info out> there I can not count...but this sounded interesting when I came> across the web site...he has had chemo and radiation.UKKKKK and just> had a blood transfusion yesterday he is enimic....he is only 48 and it> iwill be 2 years in March that he was diagnosed... .Can you give me> some good advice I have him on Milk thisle and LIV .52 and also in> Immuniocal:- ) forget the chemo CRAP..... > Thanks so much Tammy> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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