Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yes, and the psylocibe cubensis, aka stropharia cubensis, also have annulus rings on the stalk (small rings where the fruiting body detached its outermost edges when it unfolded). These psychodelic shroom are typically pale cream or off white in color with an orangsih or light brown center on the top most part. Besides the characteristic purple/blue colors you get when pinching or cutting into the stalk, the spores in the gills underneath the top of the mushroom are very dark purplish in color (and NOT brown or black). Other psylocibe varieties can be found with different characterstics, such as the psylocibe cyanacens which grows in rotting bark and pine mulch in Oregon and Washington - it has a slender purplish stalk with no annulus ring and a dark cap (fruiting body). I don't know too much about those northern cousins, as the kind which grow in Texas, especially East Texas are the cubensis variety, and I have not been to the Northeast very much. On the other hand, I spent a great deal of time in East Texas in days or yore . . . : ^ ) The psylocibe mushrooms contain small amounts of strychnine, and thus the stomach discomfort, but not nearly so much as peyote buttons which are often eaten for their own hallucinogenic and other properties. Amanita Muscaria and the other Aminatas are all dangerous, in my opinion, Other varieties grow in the oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > There seems to be some confusion here. For a reference, I recommend, Psychedelic Encyclopedia by Peter Stafford. > > The magic mushroom contains muscarine, muscimole, and atropine. In balanced amounts. In NORMAL dosages, it does not produce these negative effects. It is taken before bedtime. Its affects are to create very vivid, colorful dreams. > > This mushroom has an appearance that is unmistakable. It is bright red w/ white spots on it. A close relative, Amanita panterina, is orange w/ white spots. A. panterina is a little tougher on the stomach and may cause some anxienty, but is still regarded in folklore as safe. > > Other Amanita species may be deadly. The most famous one is nicknamed Destroying Angel. One mushroom may cause death. It is white, with a noticeable inverted cup at the base of the stem. > > If you do not know what you are doing, don't even think of chancing it! > > Mushrooms which grow in cow manure are very different. The psychedelic varieties will always turn BLUE when pinched between the fingers. If you pinch one that does not turn blue, do not put it in your mouth. The species that work are Stropharia sps. (Stropharia cubensis has been renamed Psylocibe cubensis.) > Psilocin and psylocibin are the active compounds which produce the visions. Several times the active dosage is enough to cause great anxiety and phyiscal distress. > > Caveat: if you do not know what you are doing, do not do it! > > > Dr. Goebel > > Tony wrote: Amanita Muscaria, also known as the death's head mushroom, is indeed > very posionous and can be fatal if taken in too large of a quantity. > It is also extremely hallucinogenic. > > AMANITA MUSCARIA > > COMMON NAMES: death's head, fly agaric, the woodpecker of Mars > > " One side will make you grow taller, and the other side will make you > grow shorter. " One side of what? The other side of what? thought Alice > to herself. " Of the .-mushroom, " said the Caterpillar, just as if she > had asked it aloud; and in another moment it was out of sight. > Lewis Carroll > Alice's Adventures in Wonderland > > Out of sight, indeed. As little Alice (soon to be big Alice, thanks to > the Caterpillar's culinary suggestion) discovered, the lowly mushroom > can make you high. Lewis Carroll, a known dabbler in psychedelia, > evidently had more than lunch in mind when he portrayed Alice eating > her way through a mind-bending buffet. > > It is now believed that what Carroll had in mind was the powerful > Amanita muscaria mushroom. > > Although the Amanita muscaria has been used as a hallucinogen for more > than six thousand years, it is today rapidly dropping in popularity > because of significant dangers. In fact, some mushrooms of, the genus > Amanita are so highly toxic' that they account for virtually 90 > percent of all cases of lethal mushroom poisoning. > > Amanita muscaria picked up the nickname " fly agaric " because the > poison in the mushroom was, at one time; used by Europeans on > flypaper. Just as it spelled disaster for the unsuspecting housefly, > it can end a drug sampler's career permanently. > > The six- to eight-hour journey has been described as a kind of > marijuana high and alcohol drunk combined. But Amanita muscaria is > more complex and potentially dangerous than that, full of good and bad > news. > > First, some bad news: Initial effects of the drug begin to take hold > fifteen to twenty minutes after ingestion. These may include > dizziness, confusion, dryness of the mouth, rapid breathing, nausea, > vomiting, diarrhea, and muscular twitching, along with a general > feeling of numbness in the limbs. Now the good news: Once these > feelings have passed, a period of peacefulness follows, including a > twilight sleep lasting about two hours. From behind closed eyelids, > mildly euphoric dreamlike sounds and visions are heard and seen. Upon > waking, vivid, psilocybin like hallucinations and size distortions may > be experienced, along with physical agitation and a sense of overall > joviality. > > Back to the bad news: In some cases, users of Amanita muscaria have > been known to become both paranoid and agressive during their trips. > Red-faced, they have exhibited high levels of violence and > self-destructiveness, even to the point of self-mutilation. Because > things may be seriously distorted accidents of all sorts are not > uncommon on this trip. Prolonged use can be debilitating mentally. For > those who have consumed too much, raving madness may result. Overdose > can cause delirium, convulsions, deep coma, and death as a result of > heart failure. The only known antidote for overdose is atropine, but > the effectiveness of this drug on Amanita muscaria " poisoning " is now > being seriously questioned. Some profess that adding atropine may > increase the chance of serious illness or death. > > Most important, one must know which mushroom to pick. A small mistake > in-this regard can be deadly. > > In Europe and Asia, the Amanita muscaria mushroom can be found growing > wild on forest floors underneath and among fallen leaves. It has a > large flat bright-crimson or red cap and is mottled. with white warts. > In North America: it also grows the floor of spruce, birch, or pine > forests,: but has a white orange-red, or yellow cap, and white, red, > or yellow wats. > > Please don't let these brief, sketchy descriptions suffice. Many of > Amanita and: similar mushrooms exist, and some of them are very deadly. > > from: http://www.drugtext.org/library/books/recreationaldrugs/amanita.htm > > oleander soup , " oneryigit " <oneryigit@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jeff > > in siberia (i am from there originally)people cure cancer with Amanita > > muscaria.it is also poisoned plant. > > Ý am also collecting data on cancer therapies. > > rgds > > Elif > > oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Please keep us posted on his condidtion. Good or Bad. I for one am > > trying to collect data on OS and other cancer therapies. Thanks so > > much. > > > > > > Blessings, > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yessir, yessir, 23 bags full in 1981Tony wrote: Yes, and the psylocibe cubensis, aka stropharia cubensis, also have annulus rings on the stalk (small rings where the fruiting body detached its outermost edges when it unfolded). These psychodelic shroom are typically pale cream or off white in color with an orangsih or light brown center on the top most part. Besides the characteristic purple/blue colors you get when pinching or cutting into the stalk, the spores in the gills underneath the top of the mushroom are very dark purplish in color (and NOT brown or black). Other psylocibe varieties can be found with different characterstics, such as the psylocibe cyanacens which grows in rotting bark and pine mulch in Oregon and Washington - it has a slender purplish stalk with no annulus ring and a dark cap (fruiting body). I don't know too much about those northern cousins, as the kind which grow in Texas, especially East Texas are the cubensis variety, and I have not been to the Northeast very much. On the other hand, I spent a great deal of time in East Texas in days or yore . . . : ^ ) Tony The psylocibe mushrooms contain small amounts of strychnine, and thus the stomach discomfort, but not nearly so much as peyote buttons which are often eaten for their own hallucinogenic and other properties. Amanita Muscaria and the other Aminatas are all dangerous, in my opinion, Other varieties grow in the oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > There seems to be some confusion here. For a reference, I recommend, Psychedelic Encyclopedia by Peter Stafford. > > The magic mushroom contains muscarine, muscimole, and atropine. In balanced amounts. In NORMAL dosages, it does not produce these negative effects. It is taken before bedtime. Its affects are to create very vivid, colorful dreams. > > This mushroom has an appearance that is unmistakable. It is bright red w/ white spots on it. A close relative, Amanita panterina, is orange w/ white spots. A. panterina is a little tougher on the stomach and may cause some anxienty, but is still regarded in folklore as safe. > > Other Amanita species may be deadly. The most famous one is nicknamed Destroying Angel. One mushroom may cause death. It is white, with a noticeable inverted cup at the base of the stem. > > If you do not know what you are doing, don't even think of chancing it! > > Mushrooms which grow in cow manure are very different. The psychedelic varieties will always turn BLUE when pinched between the fingers. If you pinch one that does not turn blue, do not put it in your mouth. The species that work are Stropharia sps. (Stropharia cubensis has been renamed Psylocibe cubensis.) > Psilocin and psylocibin are the active compounds which produce the visions. Several times the active dosage is enough to cause great anxiety and phyiscal distress. > > Caveat: if you do not know what you are doing, do not do it! > > > Dr. Goebel > > Tony wrote: Amanita Muscaria, also known as the death's head mushroom, is indeed > very posionous and can be fatal if taken in too large of a quantity. > It is also extremely hallucinogenic. > > AMANITA MUSCARIA > > COMMON NAMES: death's head, fly agaric, the woodpecker of Mars > > "One side will make you grow taller, and the other side will make you > grow shorter." One side of what? The other side of what? thought Alice > to herself. "Of the .-mushroom," said the Caterpillar, just as if she > had asked it aloud; and in another moment it was out of sight. > Lewis Carroll > Alice's Adventures in Wonderland > > Out of sight, indeed. As little Alice (soon to be big Alice, thanks to > the Caterpillar's culinary suggestion) discovered, the lowly mushroom > can make you high. Lewis Carroll, a known dabbler in psychedelia, > evidently had more than lunch in mind when he portrayed Alice eating > her way through a mind-bending buffet. > > It is now believed that what Carroll had in mind was the powerful > Amanita muscaria mushroom. > > Although the Amanita muscaria has been used as a hallucinogen for more > than six thousand years, it is today rapidly dropping in popularity > because of significant dangers. In fact, some mushrooms of, the genus > Amanita are so highly toxic' that they account for virtually 90 > percent of all cases of lethal mushroom poisoning. > > Amanita muscaria picked up the nickname "fly agaric" because the > poison in the mushroom was, at one time; used by Europeans on > flypaper. Just as it spelled disaster for the unsuspecting housefly, > it can end a drug sampler's career permanently. > > The six- to eight-hour journey has been described as a kind of > marijuana high and alcohol drunk combined. But Amanita muscaria is > more complex and potentially dangerous than that, full of good and bad > news. > > First, some bad news: Initial effects of the drug begin to take hold > fifteen to twenty minutes after ingestion. These may include > dizziness, confusion, dryness of the mouth, rapid breathing, nausea, > vomiting, diarrhea, and muscular twitching, along with a general > feeling of numbness in the limbs. Now the good news: Once these > feelings have passed, a period of peacefulness follows, including a > twilight sleep lasting about two hours. From behind closed eyelids, > mildly euphoric dreamlike sounds and visions are heard and seen. Upon > waking, vivid, psilocybin like hallucinations and size distortions may > be experienced, along with physical agitation and a sense of overall > joviality. > > Back to the bad news: In some cases, users of Amanita muscaria have > been known to become both paranoid and agressive during their trips. > Red-faced, they have exhibited high levels of violence and > self-destructiveness, even to the point of self-mutilation. Because > things may be seriously distorted accidents of all sorts are not > uncommon on this trip. Prolonged use can be debilitating mentally. For > those who have consumed too much, raving madness may result. Overdose > can cause delirium, convulsions, deep coma, and death as a result of > heart failure. The only known antidote for overdose is atropine, but > the effectiveness of this drug on Amanita muscaria "poisoning" is now > being seriously questioned. Some profess that adding atropine may > increase the chance of serious illness or death. > > Most important, one must know which mushroom to pick. A small mistake > in-this regard can be deadly. > > In Europe and Asia, the Amanita muscaria mushroom can be found growing > wild on forest floors underneath and among fallen leaves. It has a > large flat bright-crimson or red cap and is mottled. with white warts. > In North America: it also grows the floor of spruce, birch, or pine > forests,: but has a white orange-red, or yellow cap, and white, red, > or yellow wats. > > Please don't let these brief, sketchy descriptions suffice. Many of > Amanita and: similar mushrooms exist, and some of them are very deadly. > > from: http://www.drugtext.org/library/books/recreationaldrugs/amanita.htm > > oleander soup , "oneryigit" <oneryigit@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jeff > > in siberia (i am from there originally)people cure cancer with Amanita > > muscaria.it is also poisoned plant. > > Ý am also collecting data on cancer therapies. > > rgds > > Elif > > oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Please keep us posted on his condidtion. Good or Bad. I for one am > > trying to collect data on OS and other cancer therapies. Thanks so > > much. > > > > > > Blessings, > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Actually, the word I meant to use was mycologist, but I inadvertently posted the message before I finished editing. Must have been trippin' or something . . . lol. 1981? Hmm - you must be a " young " pup then. : ^ ) oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > Yes, and the psylocibe cubensis, aka stropharia cubensis, also have > annulus rings on the stalk (small rings where the fruiting body > detached its outermost edges when it unfolded). These psychodelic > shroom are typically pale cream or off white in color with an orangsih > or light brown center on the top most part. Besides the > characteristic purple/blue colors you get when pinching or cutting > into the stalk, the spores in the gills underneath the top of the > mushroom are very dark purplish in color (and NOT brown or black). > > Other psylocibe varieties can be found with different characterstics, > such as the psylocibe cyanacens which grows in rotting bark and pine > mulch in Oregon and Washington - it has a slender purplish stalk with > no annulus ring and a dark cap (fruiting body). > > I don't know too much about those northern cousins, as the kind which > grow in Texas, especially East Texas are the cubensis variety, and I > have not been to the Northeast very much. > > On the other hand, I spent a great deal of time in East Texas in days > or yore . . . > > : ^ ) > > > > The psylocibe mushrooms contain small amounts of strychnine, and thus > the stomach discomfort, but not nearly so much as peyote buttons which > are often eaten for their own hallucinogenic and other properties. > > Amanita Muscaria and the other Aminatas are all dangerous, in my opinion, > > Other varieties grow in the > > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote: > > > > There seems to be some confusion here. For a reference, I > recommend, Psychedelic Encyclopedia by Peter Stafford. > > > > The magic mushroom contains muscarine, muscimole, and atropine. In > balanced amounts. In NORMAL dosages, it does not produce these > negative effects. It is taken before bedtime. Its affects are to > create very vivid, colorful dreams. > > > > This mushroom has an appearance that is unmistakable. It is bright > red w/ white spots on it. A close relative, Amanita panterina, is > orange w/ white spots. A. panterina is a little tougher on the > stomach and may cause some anxienty, but is still regarded in folklore > as safe. > > > > Other Amanita species may be deadly. The most famous one is > nicknamed Destroying Angel. One mushroom may cause death. It is > white, with a noticeable inverted cup at the base of the stem. > > > > If you do not know what you are doing, don't even think of chancing it! > > > > Mushrooms which grow in cow manure are very different. The > psychedelic varieties will always turn BLUE when pinched between the > fingers. If you pinch one that does not turn blue, do not put it in > your mouth. The species that work are Stropharia sps. (Stropharia > cubensis has been renamed Psylocibe cubensis.) > > Psilocin and psylocibin are the active compounds which produce the > visions. Several times the active dosage is enough to cause great > anxiety and phyiscal distress. > > > > Caveat: if you do not know what you are doing, do not do it! > > > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > Tony @> wrote: Amanita > Muscaria, also known as the death's head mushroom, is indeed > > very posionous and can be fatal if taken in too large of a quantity. > > It is also extremely hallucinogenic. > > > > AMANITA MUSCARIA > > > > COMMON NAMES: death's head, fly agaric, the woodpecker of Mars > > > > " One side will make you grow taller, and the other side will make you > > grow shorter. " One side of what? The other side of what? thought Alice > > to herself. " Of the .-mushroom, " said the Caterpillar, just as if she > > had asked it aloud; and in another moment it was out of sight. > > Lewis Carroll > > Alice's Adventures in Wonderland > > > > Out of sight, indeed. As little Alice (soon to be big Alice, thanks to > > the Caterpillar's culinary suggestion) discovered, the lowly mushroom > > can make you high. Lewis Carroll, a known dabbler in psychedelia, > > evidently had more than lunch in mind when he portrayed Alice eating > > her way through a mind-bending buffet. > > > > It is now believed that what Carroll had in mind was the powerful > > Amanita muscaria mushroom. > > > > Although the Amanita muscaria has been used as a hallucinogen for more > > than six thousand years, it is today rapidly dropping in popularity > > because of significant dangers. In fact, some mushrooms of, the genus > > Amanita are so highly toxic' that they account for virtually 90 > > percent of all cases of lethal mushroom poisoning. > > > > Amanita muscaria picked up the nickname " fly agaric " because the > > poison in the mushroom was, at one time; used by Europeans on > > flypaper. Just as it spelled disaster for the unsuspecting housefly, > > it can end a drug sampler's career permanently. > > > > The six- to eight-hour journey has been described as a kind of > > marijuana high and alcohol drunk combined. But Amanita muscaria is > > more complex and potentially dangerous than that, full of good and bad > > news. > > > > First, some bad news: Initial effects of the drug begin to take hold > > fifteen to twenty minutes after ingestion. These may include > > dizziness, confusion, dryness of the mouth, rapid breathing, nausea, > > vomiting, diarrhea, and muscular twitching, along with a general > > feeling of numbness in the limbs. Now the good news: Once these > > feelings have passed, a period of peacefulness follows, including a > > twilight sleep lasting about two hours. From behind closed eyelids, > > mildly euphoric dreamlike sounds and visions are heard and seen. Upon > > waking, vivid, psilocybin like hallucinations and size distortions may > > be experienced, along with physical agitation and a sense of overall > > joviality. > > > > Back to the bad news: In some cases, users of Amanita muscaria have > > been known to become both paranoid and agressive during their trips. > > Red-faced, they have exhibited high levels of violence and > > self-destructiveness, even to the point of self-mutilation. Because > > things may be seriously distorted accidents of all sorts are not > > uncommon on this trip. Prolonged use can be debilitating mentally. For > > those who have consumed too much, raving madness may result. Overdose > > can cause delirium, convulsions, deep coma, and death as a result of > > heart failure. The only known antidote for overdose is atropine, but > > the effectiveness of this drug on Amanita muscaria " poisoning " is now > > being seriously questioned. Some profess that adding atropine may > > increase the chance of serious illness or death. > > > > Most important, one must know which mushroom to pick. A small mistake > > in-this regard can be deadly. > > > > In Europe and Asia, the Amanita muscaria mushroom can be found growing > > wild on forest floors underneath and among fallen leaves. It has a > > large flat bright-crimson or red cap and is mottled. with white warts. > > In North America: it also grows the floor of spruce, birch, or pine > > forests,: but has a white orange-red, or yellow cap, and white, red, > > or yellow wats. > > > > Please don't let these brief, sketchy descriptions suffice. Many of > > Amanita and: similar mushrooms exist, and some of them are very deadly. > > > > from: > http://www.drugtext.org/library/books/recreationaldrugs/amanita.htm > > > > oleander soup , " oneryigit " <oneryigit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jeff > > > in siberia (i am from there originally)people cure cancer with > Amanita > > > muscaria.it is also poisoned plant. > > > Ý am also collecting data on cancer therapies. > > > rgds > > > Elif > > > oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Please keep us posted on his condidtion. Good or Bad. I for > one am > > > trying to collect data on OS and other cancer therapies. Thanks so > > > much. > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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