Overstimulation of immune system?

[Guest guest]

We accept that OS stimulates the immune system. Is is possible to

overstimulate the immune system with a constant barrage?

 

I'm wondering if those taking OS as a preventative measure should use

it less frequently rather than more. What if your immune system

adjusts to the intake of OS, and then requires it to maintain what

would otherwise be a normal level? What about cancer cells that adapt

and learn to survive OS? Have you lost the benefit of OS when you

really need it?

I'm no scientist, and would love to have one comment.

 

This is true with antibiotics.

[Guest guest]

Antibiotics are a different matter. Like with the use of pesticides, the problem we're attacking with antibiotics becomes resistant to the antibiotic. The first antibiotic to run up against resistance, did it within (if memory serves me) two years of being released. Sorry, I don't have my notes on hand (puter is backing up now).

 

Then there's the case of Echinacea. If you use it longer than two weeks (or thereabouts) it starts to backfire. Echinacea should be used to "kick-start" the immune system, but like starting your car, you don't keep the key turned after it's started.

 

And finally, if our bodies were alkaline with a negative electrical charge, our immune systems would be free to do their original job, which is cleaning up dead cells, and taking care of "cells gone wild" (soon to be out on video, rated R, of course). The terrain itself would then block all invaders.

 

Blessings,

David

 

 

In a message dated 1/21/2008 9:58:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, ed4636 writes:

We accept that OS stimulates the immune system. Is is possible tooverstimulate the immune system with a constant barrage? I'm wondering if those taking OS as a preventative measure should useit less frequently rather than more. What if your immune systemadjusts to the intake of OS, and then requires it to maintain whatwould otherwise be a normal level? What about cancer cells that adaptand learn to survive OS? Have you lost the benefit of OS when youreally need it? I'm no scientist, and would love to have one comment.This is true with antibiotics. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

[Guest guest]

Yes, oleander stimulates the immune system like nothing else. In

European studies in 1986-87, an aqueous extract of nerium oleander was

found to have six times the immune stimulating activity of the most

powerful patented immune stimulators in mainstream medicine.

 

I am not scientist either, but, based upon my research I do believe

that in general it is a good idea to give most supplementation

programs a rest period, especially once any health issue has been

successfully addressed and the supplementation is for mostly

maintenance purposes. As David pointed out, Echinacea is a good

example, and it should not be used past a couple of weeks at a time (I

suggest alternating it with other immune boosters and pathogen

destroyers such as olive leaf extract, suma, etc.). Another good

example is inositol/IP6. I have found nothing that melts many kinds

of tumors and cancer cell masses away quite as quickly; however, long

term use of inositol/IP6 leaches minerals out of the bones and

interferes with absorption as well - especially calcium, magnesium and

zinc (and why it is a good idea to supplement with those and other

minerals when using inositol/IP6).

 

I also to the belief that in some instances constant

supplementation, such as with melatonin and seratonin, may lead to the

body becoming dependent upon supplementation and actually producing

less of the items on it's own.

 

When it comes to boosting and stimulating the immune system, there is

a further consideration - it is indeed possible to have an immune

system that is too strong, thus provoking an excessive immune response

when pathogens are encountered, which can lead to unpleasant side

effects and worse. In the case of the Avian Flu - should it mutate

and proceed to become pandemic - a strong immune system is likely to

be deadly. We have no natural antibodies for the Avian Flu, the same

as was true of another infamous bird flu, the Spanish Flu of 1918-19,

which was so deadly that the average life expectancy of the entire

United States fell by 10 years during it's reign.

 

When such a flu or unknown pathogen is encountered, the body responds

with a toxic cascade of chemicals to try to kill the flu and the end

result for the healthiest people with very strong immune systems is

that the body literally eats its lungs up. The best way to guard

against this flu is to also take anti-virals.

 

When it comes to oleander, I do not think there is a problem with a

continued maintenance dose of a teaspoon or two taken twice to three

times a week. As for myself, I do give it a break of a few weeks to a

month every once in awhile, but my advice is to continue to take

maintenance doses and live a healthy overall life style if you never

want to see cancer in your life again (or for the first time).

 

Immediately following this message, I will post an article this week

from Jon Barron that further addresses the issues of overstimulating

or overbuilding the immune system, as well as how to be prepared for

the avian flu, should it occur.

 

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

 

 

 

oleander soup , " ed4soup " <ed4636 wrote:

>

> We accept that OS stimulates the immune system. Is is possible to

> overstimulate the immune system with a constant barrage?

>

> I'm wondering if those taking OS as a preventative measure should use

> it less frequently rather than more. What if your immune system

> adjusts to the intake of OS, and then requires it to maintain what

> would otherwise be a normal level? What about cancer cells that adapt

> and learn to survive OS? Have you lost the benefit of OS when you

> really need it?

> I'm no scientist, and would love to have one comment.

>

> This is true with antibiotics.

>