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Before you start treating something, it's best to get a firm diagnosis.

 

An Hiatal Hernia is NOT called GERD. An Hiatal Hernia can CAUSE GERD. However, you can have GERD w/o the hernia.

 

To get a firm diagnosis, you'll need to get an Esophagogastroscopy.

 

Next you might wish to check out Digestion Part I and Digestion Part II.

 

The largest selling category of OTC meds in the US are antacids. Imagine all these people going thru life not digesting their food.

 

Blessings,

David

 

 

 

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Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:11:10 -0000 "Misty L. Trepke" <mistytrepkeAskWaltStollMD: Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom ReliefHi everyone...Thought I would make it easy to find that information Dr. Walt was suggesting and this way anyone in future who searches our message archives can find this information as well...Enjoy,Misty L. Trepkehttp://www..comUpper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief by Dr. Walt Stoll, MDhttp://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html---100% safe and effective symptom relief, within 3 weeks, for cost of about $10.Hiatus Hernia (also known as Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disorder or GERD) is an increasingly common problem with heartburn in the upper abdominal/lower chest area. It is incurable from a conventional medical approach (short of a dangerous major surgical procedure). The solution is very inexpensive, 100% safe and available without any medical supervision. Actually most upper gastrointestinal symptoms would be improved by the same approach--why not give it a try? This has been a standard treatment in Traditional Chinese medicine for thousands of years. You would have nothing to lose but your symptoms. THEN, perhaps, you would ask the question that begs to be asked: "Why didn't MY doctor tell me that?" Here is something to try which, in my experience over the past 15+ years, nearly always works regardless of what the actual diagnosis is. It is perfectly safe and costs practically nothing. AND, if the condition EVER comes back, you can repeat the treatment. You can lose nothing by trying. If it doesn't work, I would like to know because it RARELY fails. Also, I might have more advice, depending on your experience. Go to the grocery store, to the produce department, and buy about #2 of ginger root. The heavier the root, the more juice there is in it. Run all of it through a good juicer ( don't use a blender). Save all the juice in a jar in the refrigerator and take a teaspoon every morning on arising. At first, you will feel like you have just swallowed 200 proof alcohol but you will soon get used to the sensation. Do this every day for 3 weeks. Your symptoms may well disappear long before that but, if you stop before the 3 weeks, you will almost certainly have a relapse since the problem has been going on for so long. If you ever have any symptoms return, if you will do this right away for a few days, it will work again. The longer you keep your symptoms, before using the juice, the longer you will have to take it to prevent a relapse. Let others know how you do. Others deserve to know that they have alternatives that their Conventional Medical Physician is not telling them about because it is too inexpensive. You may ask: "If this works so well, why is it not the "standard of care" the State Medical Licensing Boards are so careful to enforce?" For those who are really interested in the answer to that, I would suggest reading Health at the Crossroads by Dean Black, PhD. This little book (reprinted in January 1994) can be obtained for about $10, including shipping and handling, by calling Valeen Burdal at 801-768-0560. Please tell others about this publication! Good Luck. Walt Stoll, MD P.S. Your symptoms are not really caused by a ginger deficiency. I am not suggesting this as a CURE for your causes. However, is is a great way to stop suffering. If you get motivated to look into the causes, get my book. __________

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If there is no blockage in the intestinal tract (tumor, etc.), acid reflux results from insufficient digestion within the stomach; it is an acid deficiency problem. Food sitting in the stomach more than several hours will begin to ferment, releasing gases. The pressure of these gases builds until it is sufficient to expel through the cardia (stomach to esophagus) sphincter, blowing the acid contents of the stomach back into the esophagus. Burning sensations and a nasty taste are the usual symptoms noticed. If this happens continually over a period of time, ulcerations may occur in the esophagus. Other tissue changes can occur, even cancer, if this situation is not remedied.All treatment by antacids and acid or pepsin blocking drug compound the problems. Although they may result in less gas and expulsion back into the esophagus, there will be even less digestion of food due to even more insufficient stomach acid. More

problems in the digestive tract, and dietary insufficiencies for the lack of digestion cause weakening of more body functions.Digestive enzymes are the rational approach to "fix" this problem. The worse the digestive disorder, the more needed. I tested this on myself during one bout with gas and intense burning. I took 4 Zypan (a Standard Process product), and the symptoms were gone in 30 minutes. Protease, ox bile, and HCl are available in other pills by other good supplement manufacturers (I am being fair, so as not to promote Standard Process Labs). These will work. If your esophagus is ulcerated, you will need to see a doctor who can prescribe Nexium for you, and you will need to take it for a period of 2 weeks to 3 months, depending on the severity of your problem. You should then discontinue the Nexium and use the digestive enzyme remedy.Please note that the above information is relevant for

someone who does not have a blockage in the digestive tract. If the scope of your pathology is greater than that I have described above, the treatment may be considerably different. If in any doubt as to the nature or severity of your problem, please see a medical or osteopathic doctor (chiropractors such as myself of some other health care practitioners -- depending on scope of practice as defined in your state's licensure laws -- may be able to order all the diagnostic testing for you, but insurance companies may not pay the bill if not ordered by an MD) to have the proper tests run to reach an accurate, complete diagnosis.Michael L. Goebel, D.C.A van Rensburg <secdogs wrote: from seaching alternatives group Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:11:10 -0000 "Misty L. Trepke" <mistytrepke >AskWaltStollMD: Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom ReliefHi everyone...Thought I would make it easy to find that information Dr. Walt was suggesting and this way anyone in future who searches our message archives can find this information as well...Enjoy,Misty L. Trepkehttp://www..comUpper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief by Dr. Walt Stoll, MDhttp://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html---100% safe and effective symptom relief, within 3 weeks, for cost of about $10.Hiatus Hernia (also known as Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disorder or GERD) is an increasingly common problem with heartburn in the upper abdominal/lower chest area. It is incurable from a conventional medical approach (short of a dangerous major surgical procedure). The solution is very

inexpensive, 100% safe and available without any medical supervision. Actually most upper gastrointestinal symptoms would be improved by the same approach--why not give it a try? This has been a standard treatment in Traditional Chinese medicine for thousands of years. You would have nothing to lose but your symptoms. THEN, perhaps, you would ask the question that begs to be asked: "Why didn't MY doctor tell me that?" Here is something to try which, in my experience over the past 15+ years, nearly always works regardless of what the actual diagnosis is. It is perfectly safe and costs practically nothing. AND, if the condition EVER comes back, you can repeat the treatment. You can lose nothing by trying. If it doesn't work, I would like to know because it RARELY fails. Also, I might have more advice, depending on your experience. Go to the grocery store, to the produce

department, and buy about #2 of ginger root. The heavier the root, the more juice there is in it. Run all of it through a good juicer ( don't use a blender). Save all the juice in a jar in the refrigerator and take a teaspoon every morning on arising. At first, you will feel like you have just swallowed 200 proof alcohol but you will soon get used to the sensation. Do this every day for 3 weeks. Your symptoms may well disappear long before that but, if you stop before the 3 weeks, you will almost certainly have a relapse since the problem has been going on for so long. If you ever have any symptoms return, if you will do this right away for a few days, it will work again. The longer you keep your symptoms, before using the juice, the longer you will have to take it to prevent a relapse. Let others know how you do. Others deserve to know that they have

alternatives that their Conventional Medical Physician is not telling them about because it is too inexpensive. You may ask: "If this works so well, why is it not the "standard of care" the State Medical Licensing Boards are so careful to enforce?" For those who are really interested in the answer to that, I would suggest reading Health at the Crossroads by Dean Black, PhD. This little book (reprinted in January 1994) can be obtained for about $10, including shipping and handling, by calling Valeen Burdal at 801-768-0560. Please tell others about this publication! Good Luck. Walt Stoll, MD P.S. Your symptoms are not really caused by a ginger deficiency. I am not suggesting this as a CURE for your causes. However, is is a great way to stop suffering. If you get motivated to look into the causes, get my book. __________

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I've found myself in the middle of a controversy, and would like input.

 

Here is an email I received from an Holistic Health Practitioner on Betaine Hydrochloride:

 

Please, I hope you decide to no longer recommend this potentiallydangerous acid.I've always enjoyed and valued your website information for thepublic, although I came across a very disturbing piece of information.Your welcome to call me about the insights on this product, BetaineHCL, that is touted in the natural health field as a digestive aid,but in reality, although it helps to alleviate symptoms in the shortterm like medications in the form of drugs... it aggravates theunderlying cause of people's aliments.Used as a digestive aid, it further weakens digestion long-term andsignificantly weakens the immune system and our resistance toinfection and restoring our over-all body.One can generate auto-immune disorders including AIDS on Betaine HCLin the way it deteriorates the body, never truly correcting digestionand making the individual dependent on the supplement similar to whatdrugs do. The danger is if someone increases the amount taken, asdigestion and organs begin to deteriorate w/ the acid, that's wherethings start to get serious.We've had an exceptional well educated man, the Director of theAcademy of Natural Therpaies, make this one mistake, did everythingelse right, i mean right on w/ all of it, and lost his life to BetaineHCL. We learned through his death of it's dangers.Your link at :http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/diet.htmstates:Hydrochloric acid is also recommended at times, especially if you area vegetarian, and many of the digestive enzymes you can purchase comewith a little HCL. It is time for us to quit thinking HCL is ourenemy. It is needed for digestion and as we age, we produce less andless. A simple test to see if you are producing enough HCL comes fromDr David G Williams of Alternatives (a newsletter) in a pamphlet heproduced called SECRETS OF LIFE EXTENSION: 10 Simple All-Natural Stepsto Achieving Your Maximum Lifespan, when you arise in the morning,before you brush your teeth, test the pH of your saliva (testing kitsare available at most drug stores), and after you eat breakfast, testit again. If the pH of your saliva has dropped, you will need extraHCL. Please, see a physician to determine your own specific needs.Note that niacin aids in the production of HCL. TopTHIS IS MIS-INFORMATION UNFORTUNATELY...1/2 truths are explained withit's justification and use as a dieatery supplement. WE DO NEED TOSTART THINKING OF IT AS OUR ENEMY.Hydrogen Peroxide is naturally made by the body to fight infection atthe location that's challenged, and people drink it in hopes of goodhealth in the premise of oxygenating the body, and weaken it in theprocess. So much confusiton with how health works and how to restoreit.Then you go on to say...It is better to get your vitamins from the food you eat than from abottle. We've been told this for years. However, this is true only ifyou eat organic whole foods.Which is excellent.Please do NOT harm the public by encouraging a product that does NOTbelong on the shelf of what constitues "natural" and should supportand strengthen versus weaken and render someone helpless, neverknowing that a supplement they are taking is weakening them further,and potentially taking more of it perhaps until a complication ariseswhere they may lose their life to it.Again, feel free to call me w/ any concerns or understanding you mayneed with this one.-- Michael Giammusso, HHPNatural Health PractitionerVillage Medical Center5353 Main StreetWilliamsville, NY 14221716 632-4024www.nynaturalhealthcenter.com

 

 

 

 

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I for one will be giving this a try. And will be telling everyone I

know. Thank you.

 

Hugs,

 

 

oleander soup , " A van Rensburg " <secdogs

wrote:

>

> from seaching alternatives group

>

>

> Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:11:10 -0000

> " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke

> AskWaltStollMD: Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief

>

>

> Hi everyone...

> Thought I would make it easy to find that information Dr. Walt

was

> suggesting and this way anyone in future who searches our message

> archives can find this information as well...

> Enjoy,

> Misty L. Trepke

> http://www..com

>

>

> Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief

> by Dr. Walt Stoll, MD

> http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

>

>

---

>

> 100% safe and effective symptom relief, within 3 weeks, for cost

of

> about $10.

>

> Hiatus Hernia (also known as Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disorder or

> GERD) is an increasingly common problem with heartburn in the

upper

> abdominal/lower chest area. It is incurable from a conventional

> medical approach (short of a dangerous major surgical procedure).

> The solution is very inexpensive, 100% safe and available without

> any medical supervision. Actually most upper gastrointestinal

> symptoms would be improved by the same approach--why not give it

a

> try? This has been a standard treatment in Traditional Chinese

> medicine for thousands of years. You would have nothing to lose

but

> your symptoms. THEN, perhaps, you would ask the question that

begs

> to be asked: " Why didn't MY doctor tell me that? "

>

> Here is something to try which, in my experience over the past

15+

> years, nearly always works regardless of what the actual

diagnosis

> is. It is perfectly safe and costs practically nothing. AND, if

the

> condition EVER comes back, you can repeat the treatment. You can

> lose nothing by trying. If it doesn't work, I would like to know

> because it RARELY fails. Also, I might have more advice,

depending

> on your experience.

>

> Go to the grocery store, to the produce department, and buy about

#2

> of ginger root. The heavier the root, the more juice there is in

it.

>

> Run all of it through a good juicer ( don't use a blender).

>

> Save all the juice in a jar in the refrigerator and take a

teaspoon

> every morning on arising. At first, you will feel like you have

just

> swallowed 200 proof alcohol but you will soon get used to the

> sensation.

>

> Do this every day for 3 weeks. Your symptoms may well disappear

long

> before that but, if you stop before the 3 weeks, you will almost

> certainly have a relapse since the problem has been going on for

so

> long.

>

> If you ever have any symptoms return, if you will do this right

away

> for a few days, it will work again. The longer you keep your

> symptoms, before using the juice, the longer you will have to

take

> it to prevent a relapse. Let others know how you do. Others

deserve

> to know that they have alternatives that their Conventional

Medical

> Physician is not telling them about because it is too

inexpensive.

>

> You may ask: " If this works so well, why is it not the " standard

of

> care " the State Medical Licensing Boards are so careful to

enforce? "

> For those who are really interested in the answer to that, I

would

> suggest reading Health at the Crossroads by Dean Black, PhD. This

> little book (reprinted in January 1994) can be obtained for about

> $10, including shipping and handling, by calling Valeen Burdal at

> 801-768-0560. Please tell others about this publication!

>

> Good Luck. Walt Stoll, MD

>

> P.S. Your symptoms are not really caused by a ginger deficiency.

I

> am not suggesting this as a CURE for your causes. However, is is

a

> great way to stop suffering. If you get motivated to look into

the

> causes, get my book.

>

>

>

>

>

>

____________________

__

>

____________________

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>

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Hi Dr. Goebel,

 

Knowing that acid reflux is the result of not having enough acid to

properly digest food is quite disconcerting. I have had this

horrific problem for years and spent quite a few years taking

prevacid before I found natural alternatives. I shudder to think how

the side effects have affected me. I also have a hiatial hernia. So

did my mother.

 

For the past few years I have controlled this problem with diet and

lately have been taking acidopholus with my meals. However, my one

weakness is pizza and if somebody places a pizza in front of me it is

impossible to say no. And then I pay dearly thereafter. However, I

consider it worth it. I have written down `your suggestions and will

certainly get them. Do you suggest using the ginger root method? I

will try just about anything for total relief.

 

Thanks,

 

 

oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx

wrote:

>

> If there is no blockage in the intestinal tract (tumor, etc.), acid

reflux results from insufficient digestion within the stomach; it is

an acid deficiency problem. Food sitting in the stomach more than

several hours will begin to ferment, releasing gases. The pressure

of these gases builds until it is sufficient to expel through the

cardia (stomach to esophagus) sphincter, blowing the acid contents of

the stomach back into the esophagus. Burning sensations and a nasty

taste are the usual symptoms noticed. If this happens continually

over a period of time, ulcerations may occur in the esophagus. Other

tissue changes can occur, even cancer, if this situation is not

remedied.

>

> All treatment by antacids and acid or pepsin blocking drug compound

the problems. Although they may result in less gas and expulsion

back into the esophagus, there will be even less digestion of food

due to even more insufficient stomach acid. More problems in the

digestive tract, and dietary insufficiencies for the lack of

digestion cause weakening of more body functions.

>

> Digestive enzymes are the rational approach to " fix " this problem.

The worse the digestive disorder, the more needed. I tested this on

myself during one bout with gas and intense burning. I took 4 Zypan

(a Standard Process product), and the symptoms were gone in 30

minutes. Protease, ox bile, and HCl are available in other pills by

other good supplement manufacturers (I am being fair, so as not to

promote Standard Process Labs). These will work.

>

> If your esophagus is ulcerated, you will need to see a doctor who

can prescribe Nexium for you, and you will need to take it for a

period of 2 weeks to 3 months, depending on the severity of your

problem. You should then discontinue the Nexium and use the

digestive enzyme remedy.

>

> Please note that the above information is relevant for someone who

does not have a blockage in the digestive tract. If the scope of

your pathology is greater than that I have described above, the

treatment may be considerably different. If in any doubt as to the

nature or severity of your problem, please see a medical or

osteopathic doctor (chiropractors such as myself of some other health

care practitioners -- depending on scope of practice as defined in

your state's licensure laws -- may be able to order all the

diagnostic testing for you, but insurance companies may not pay the

bill if not ordered by an MD) to have the proper tests run to reach

an accurate, complete diagnosis.

>

> Michael L. Goebel, D.C.

>

> A van Rensburg <secdogs

wrote:

> from seaching alternatives group

>

>

> Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:11:10 -0000

> " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke

> AskWaltStollMD: Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief

>

>

> Hi everyone...

> Thought I would make it easy to find that information Dr. Walt

was

> suggesting and this way anyone in future who searches our

message

> archives can find this information as well...

> Enjoy,

> Misty L. Trepke

> http://www..com

>

>

> Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief

> by Dr. Walt Stoll, MD

> http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

>

> --

-

>

> 100% safe and effective symptom relief, within 3 weeks, for cost

of

> about $10.

>

> Hiatus Hernia (also known as Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disorder

or

> GERD) is an increasingly common problem with heartburn in the

upper

> abdominal/lower chest area. It is incurable from a conventional

> medical approach (short of a dangerous major surgical procedure).

> The solution is very inexpensive, 100% safe and available

without

> any medical supervision. Actually most upper gastrointestinal

> symptoms would be improved by the same approach--why not give it

a

> try? This has been a standard treatment in Traditional Chinese

> medicine for thousands of years. You would have nothing to lose

but

> your symptoms. THEN, perhaps, you would ask the question that

begs

> to be asked: " Why didn't MY doctor tell me that? "

>

> Here is something to try which, in my experience over the past

15+

> years, nearly always works regardless of what the actual

diagnosis

> is. It is perfectly safe and costs practically nothing. AND, if

the

> condition EVER comes back, you can repeat the treatment. You can

> lose nothing by trying. If it doesn't work, I would like to know

> because it RARELY fails. Also, I might have more advice,

depending

> on your experience.

>

> Go to the grocery store, to the produce department, and buy

about #2

> of ginger root. The heavier the root, the more juice there is in

it.

>

> Run all of it through a good juicer ( don't use a blender).

>

> Save all the juice in a jar in the refrigerator and take a

teaspoon

> every morning on arising. At first, you will feel like you have

just

> swallowed 200 proof alcohol but you will soon get used to the

> sensation.

>

> Do this every day for 3 weeks. Your symptoms may well disappear

long

> before that but, if you stop before the 3 weeks, you will almost

> certainly have a relapse since the problem has been going on for

so

> long.

>

> If you ever have any symptoms return, if you will do this right

away

> for a few days, it will work again. The longer you keep your

> symptoms, before using the juice, the longer you will have to take

> it to prevent a relapse. Let others know how you do. Others

deserve

> to know that they have alternatives that their Conventional

Medical

> Physician is not telling them about because it is too

inexpensive.

>

> You may ask: " If this works so well, why is it not the " standard

of

> care " the State Medical Licensing Boards are so careful to

enforce? "

> For those who are really interested in the answer to that, I

would

> suggest reading Health at the Crossroads by Dean Black, PhD.

This

> little book (reprinted in January 1994) can be obtained for

about

> $10, including shipping and handling, by calling Valeen Burdal

at

> 801-768-0560. Please tell others about this publication!

>

> Good Luck. Walt Stoll, MD

>

> P.S. Your symptoms are not really caused by a ginger deficiency.

I

> am not suggesting this as a CURE for your causes. However, is is

a

> great way to stop suffering. If you get motivated to look into

the

> causes, get my book.

>

>

>

>

>

>

____________________

__

>

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__

>

 

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Losing one's life to betaine HCl is ludicrous. Digestion in the stomach is a product of pepsin and HCl. The blood, urine, and other tissues should be extremely mildly basic.I limited my topic to problems in the stomach and esophagus; a problem in the intestines or elsewhere was not in the scope of my recommendations. That is why I explicitly limited what condition(s) I recommended digestive enzymes for. To the practitioner from NY: Sir, you might also choose to eliminate the potentially dangerous substances water and oxygen from your daily consumption, as both can be lethal in sufficient quantities. Caveat: speaking in absolutes can be fatally impractical application.As for vitamins and minerals in foods, even the most synthetically produced foods have some vitamins, minerals, and co-factors; organically produced foods just have more, and a more complete spectrum of

co-factors. I always choose organic when the choice is given me.At the rate that agricultural production is going synthetic, the option to buy organic may end with the next generation or two. There is no substitute for vigilance and education. We must teach our patients practical nutritional survival. It would be warm and comfortable to be able to maintain a purist stance, but our duty is for the health maintenance and improvement of people, not an ideal.This analogy is instructive for health repair, maintenance, and improvment:When there is a fire, you call the fire department first; put out the fire (drugs, surgery if absolutely needed), then call in the carpenters (greater amounts of enzymes, vitamins, minerals, and co-factors); after the temple is rebuilt, you can then call in the artisans and glass cleaners/furniture polishers (nutrients beyond whole foods limited to best knowledge of healthy life extension supplements) for

beauty and esthetics.But to call stomach acid a danger to life is like having Barrett and Jarvis say not to take OS because it has to be poisonous!Michael L. Goebel, D.C., ACNahzoov wrote: I've found myself in the middle of a controversy, and would like input. Here is an email I received from an Holistic Health Practitioner on Betaine

Hydrochloride: Please, I hope you decide to no longer recommend this potentiallydangerous acid.I've always enjoyed and valued your website information for thepublic, although I came across a very disturbing piece of information.Your welcome to call me about the insights on this product, BetaineHCL, that is touted in the natural health field as a digestive aid,but in reality, although it helps to alleviate symptoms in the shortterm like medications in the form of drugs... it aggravates theunderlying cause of people's aliments.Used as a digestive aid, it further weakens digestion long-term andsignificantly weakens the immune system and our resistance toinfection and restoring our over-all body.One can generate auto-immune disorders including AIDS on Betaine HCLin the way it deteriorates the body, never truly correcting digestionand making

the individual dependent on the supplement similar to whatdrugs do. The danger is if someone increases the amount taken, asdigestion and organs begin to deteriorate w/ the acid, that's wherethings start to get serious.We've had an exceptional well educated man, the Director of theAcademy of Natural Therpaies, make this one mistake, did everythingelse right, i mean right on w/ all of it, and lost his life to BetaineHCL. We learned through his death of it's dangers.Your link at :http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/diet.htmstates:Hydrochloric acid is also recommended at times, especially if you area vegetarian, and many of the digestive enzymes you can purchase comewith a little HCL. It is time for us to quit thinking HCL is ourenemy. It is needed for digestion and as we age, we produce less

andless. A simple test to see if you are producing enough HCL comes fromDr David G Williams of Alternatives (a newsletter) in a pamphlet heproduced called SECRETS OF LIFE EXTENSION: 10 Simple All-Natural Stepsto Achieving Your Maximum Lifespan, when you arise in the morning,before you brush your teeth, test the pH of your saliva (testing kitsare available at most drug stores), and after you eat breakfast, testit again. If the pH of your saliva has dropped, you will need extraHCL. Please, see a physician to determine your own specific needs.Note that niacin aids in the production of HCL. TopTHIS IS MIS-INFORMATION UNFORTUNATELY...1/2 truths are explained withit's justification and use as a dieatery supplement. WE DO NEED TOSTART THINKING OF IT AS OUR ENEMY.Hydrogen Peroxide is naturally made by the body to fight infection atthe location that's challenged, and people drink it in hopes of

goodhealth in the premise of oxygenating the body, and weaken it in theprocess. So much confusiton with how health works and how to restoreit.Then you go on to say...It is better to get your vitamins from the food you eat than from abottle. We've been told this for years. However, this is true only ifyou eat organic whole foods.Which is excellent.Please do NOT harm the public by encouraging a product that does NOTbelong on the shelf of what constitues "natural" and should supportand strengthen versus weaken and render someone helpless, neverknowing that a supplement they are taking is weakening them further,and potentially taking more of it perhaps until a complication ariseswhere they may lose their life to it.Again, feel free to call me w/ any concerns or understanding you mayneed with this one.-- Michael Giammusso, HHPNatural Health

PractitionerVillage Medical Center5353 Main StreetWilliamsville, NY 14221716 632-4024www.nynaturalhealthcenter.com In a message dated 12/28/2007 9:24:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, goebelchx writes: HClSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter.

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Hi ,I have made ginger part of my supplementation for years. You might want to load up on the digestive enzymes before you eat pizza. You may also be as I am, sensitive but not allergic to wheat and most cheeses.Dr. Goebel May <luellamay129 wrote: Hi Dr. Goebel, Knowing that acid reflux is the result of not having enough acid to properly digest food is quite disconcerting. I have had this horrific problem for years and spent quite a few years taking prevacid before I found natural

alternatives. I shudder to think how the side effects have affected me. I also have a hiatial hernia. So did my mother. For the past few years I have controlled this problem with diet and lately have been taking acidopholus with my meals. However, my one weakness is pizza and if somebody places a pizza in front of me it is impossible to say no. And then I pay dearly thereafter. However, I consider it worth it. I have written down `your suggestions and will certainly get them. Do you suggest using the ginger root method? I will try just about anything for total relief. Thanks, oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > If there is no blockage in the intestinal tract (tumor, etc.), acid reflux results from insufficient digestion within the stomach; it is

an acid deficiency problem. Food sitting in the stomach more than several hours will begin to ferment, releasing gases. The pressure of these gases builds until it is sufficient to expel through the cardia (stomach to esophagus) sphincter, blowing the acid contents of the stomach back into the esophagus. Burning sensations and a nasty taste are the usual symptoms noticed. If this happens continually over a period of time, ulcerations may occur in the esophagus. Other tissue changes can occur, even cancer, if this situation is not remedied. > > All treatment by antacids and acid or pepsin blocking drug compound the problems. Although they may result in less gas and expulsion back into the esophagus, there will be even less digestion of food due to even more insufficient stomach acid. More problems in the digestive tract, and dietary insufficiencies for the lack of digestion cause

weakening of more body functions. > > Digestive enzymes are the rational approach to "fix" this problem. The worse the digestive disorder, the more needed. I tested this on myself during one bout with gas and intense burning. I took 4 Zypan (a Standard Process product), and the symptoms were gone in 30 minutes. Protease, ox bile, and HCl are available in other pills by other good supplement manufacturers (I am being fair, so as not to promote Standard Process Labs). These will work. > > If your esophagus is ulcerated, you will need to see a doctor who can prescribe Nexium for you, and you will need to take it for a period of 2 weeks to 3 months, depending on the severity of your problem. You should then discontinue the Nexium and use the digestive enzyme remedy. > > Please note that the above information is relevant for someone who does not have a blockage in the

digestive tract. If the scope of your pathology is greater than that I have described above, the treatment may be considerably different. If in any doubt as to the nature or severity of your problem, please see a medical or osteopathic doctor (chiropractors such as myself of some other health care practitioners -- depending on scope of practice as defined in your state's licensure laws -- may be able to order all the diagnostic testing for you, but insurance companies may not pay the bill if not ordered by an MD) to have the proper tests run to reach an accurate, complete diagnosis. > > Michael L. Goebel, D.C. > > A van Rensburg <secdogs wrote: > from seaching alternatives group > > > Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:11:10 -0000 > "Misty L. Trepke" <mistytrepke >

AskWaltStollMD: Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief > > > Hi everyone... > Thought I would make it easy to find that information Dr. Walt was > suggesting and this way anyone in future who searches our message > archives can find this information as well... > Enjoy, > Misty L. Trepke > http://www..com > > > Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief > by Dr. Walt Stoll, MD > http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html > > ------------------------- - > > 100% safe and effective symptom relief, within 3 weeks, for cost of > about $10. > > Hiatus Hernia (also known as

Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disorder or > GERD) is an increasingly common problem with heartburn in the upper > abdominal/lower chest area. It is incurable from a conventional > medical approach (short of a dangerous major surgical procedure). > The solution is very inexpensive, 100% safe and available without > any medical supervision. Actually most upper gastrointestinal > symptoms would be improved by the same approach--why not give it a > try? This has been a standard treatment in Traditional Chinese > medicine for thousands of years. You would have nothing to lose but > your symptoms. THEN, perhaps, you would ask the question that begs > to be asked: "Why didn't MY doctor tell me that?" > > Here is something to try which, in my experience over the past 15+ > years, nearly always works regardless of

what the actual diagnosis > is. It is perfectly safe and costs practically nothing. AND, if the > condition EVER comes back, you can repeat the treatment. You can > lose nothing by trying. If it doesn't work, I would like to know > because it RARELY fails. Also, I might have more advice, depending > on your experience. > > Go to the grocery store, to the produce department, and buy about #2 > of ginger root. The heavier the root, the more juice there is in it. > > Run all of it through a good juicer ( don't use a blender). > > Save all the juice in a jar in the refrigerator and take a teaspoon > every morning on arising. At first, you will feel like you have just > swallowed 200 proof alcohol but you will soon get used to the > sensation. > > Do this every day for 3 weeks.

Your symptoms may well disappear long > before that but, if you stop before the 3 weeks, you will almost > certainly have a relapse since the problem has been going on for so > long. > > If you ever have any symptoms return, if you will do this right away > for a few days, it will work again. The longer you keep your > symptoms, before using the juice, the longer you will have to take > it to prevent a relapse. Let others know how you do. Others deserve > to know that they have alternatives that their Conventional Medical > Physician is not telling them about because it is too inexpensive. > > You may ask: "If this works so well, why is it not the "standard of > care" the State Medical Licensing Boards are so careful to enforce?" > For those who are really interested in the answer to that, I

would > suggest reading Health at the Crossroads by Dean Black, PhD. This > little book (reprinted in January 1994) can be obtained for about > $10, including shipping and handling, by calling Valeen Burdal at > 801-768-0560. Please tell others about this publication! > > Good Luck. Walt Stoll, MD > > P.S. Your symptoms are not really caused by a ginger deficiency. I > am not suggesting this as a CURE for your causes. However, is is a > great way to stop suffering. If you get motivated to look into the > causes, get my book. > > > > > > ________ __ > ________ __ > > >

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Now, that would be a thought. Thank you Dr. Goebel.

 

Hugs,

 

 

oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx

wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> I have made ginger part of my supplementation for years. You might

want to load up on the digestive enzymes before you eat pizza. You

may also be as I am, sensitive but not allergic to wheat and most

cheeses.

>

> Dr. Goebel

>

> May <luellamay129 wrote:

Hi Dr. Goebel,

>

> Knowing that acid reflux is the result of not having enough acid

to

> properly digest food is quite disconcerting. I have had this

> horrific problem for years and spent quite a few years taking

> prevacid before I found natural alternatives. I shudder to think

how

> the side effects have affected me. I also have a hiatial hernia.

So

> did my mother.

>

> For the past few years I have controlled this problem with diet

and

> lately have been taking acidopholus with my meals. However, my

one

> weakness is pizza and if somebody places a pizza in front of me it

is

> impossible to say no. And then I pay dearly thereafter. However,

I

> consider it worth it. I have written down `your suggestions and

will

> certainly get them. Do you suggest using the ginger root method?

I

> will try just about anything for total relief.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@>

> wrote:

> >

> > If there is no blockage in the intestinal tract (tumor, etc.),

acid

> reflux results from insufficient digestion within the stomach; it

is

> an acid deficiency problem. Food sitting in the stomach more than

> several hours will begin to ferment, releasing gases. The

pressure

> of these gases builds until it is sufficient to expel through the

> cardia (stomach to esophagus) sphincter, blowing the acid contents

of

> the stomach back into the esophagus. Burning sensations and a

nasty

> taste are the usual symptoms noticed. If this happens continually

> over a period of time, ulcerations may occur in the esophagus.

Other

> tissue changes can occur, even cancer, if this situation is not

> remedied.

> >

> > All treatment by antacids and acid or pepsin blocking drug

compound

> the problems. Although they may result in less gas and expulsion

> back into the esophagus, there will be even less digestion of food

> due to even more insufficient stomach acid. More problems in the

> digestive tract, and dietary insufficiencies for the lack of

> digestion cause weakening of more body functions.

> >

> > Digestive enzymes are the rational approach to " fix " this

problem.

> The worse the digestive disorder, the more needed. I tested this

on

> myself during one bout with gas and intense burning. I took 4

Zypan

> (a Standard Process product), and the symptoms were gone in 30

> minutes. Protease, ox bile, and HCl are available in other pills

by

> other good supplement manufacturers (I am being fair, so as not to

> promote Standard Process Labs). These will work.

> >

> > If your esophagus is ulcerated, you will need to see a doctor

who

> can prescribe Nexium for you, and you will need to take it for a

> period of 2 weeks to 3 months, depending on the severity of your

> problem. You should then discontinue the Nexium and use the

> digestive enzyme remedy.

> >

> > Please note that the above information is relevant for someone

who

> does not have a blockage in the digestive tract. If the scope of

> your pathology is greater than that I have described above, the

> treatment may be considerably different. If in any doubt as to

the

> nature or severity of your problem, please see a medical or

> osteopathic doctor (chiropractors such as myself of some other

health

> care practitioners -- depending on scope of practice as defined in

> your state's licensure laws -- may be able to order all the

> diagnostic testing for you, but insurance companies may not pay

the

> bill if not ordered by an MD) to have the proper tests run to

reach

> an accurate, complete diagnosis.

> >

> > Michael L. Goebel, D.C.

> >

> > A van Rensburg <secdogs@>

> wrote:

> > from seaching alternatives group

> >

> >

> > Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:11:10 -0000

> > " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke@>

> > AskWaltStollMD: Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone...

> > Thought I would make it easy to find that information Dr.

Walt

> was

> > suggesting and this way anyone in future who searches our

> message

> > archives can find this information as well...

> > Enjoy,

> > Misty L. Trepke

> > http://www..com

> >

> >

> > Upper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief

> > by Dr. Walt Stoll, MD

> > http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

> >

> > -------------------------

> -

> >

> > 100% safe and effective symptom relief, within 3 weeks, for

cost

> of

> > about $10.

> >

> > Hiatus Hernia (also known as Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disorder

> or

> > GERD) is an increasingly common problem with heartburn in the

> upper

> > abdominal/lower chest area. It is incurable from a

conventional

> > medical approach (short of a dangerous major surgical

procedure).

> > The solution is very inexpensive, 100% safe and available

> without

> > any medical supervision. Actually most upper gastrointestinal

> > symptoms would be improved by the same approach--why not give

it

> a

> > try? This has been a standard treatment in Traditional

Chinese

> > medicine for thousands of years. You would have nothing to

lose

> but

> > your symptoms. THEN, perhaps, you would ask the question that

> begs

> > to be asked: " Why didn't MY doctor tell me that? "

> >

> > Here is something to try which, in my experience over the

past

> 15+

> > years, nearly always works regardless of what the actual

> diagnosis

> > is. It is perfectly safe and costs practically nothing. AND, if

> the

> > condition EVER comes back, you can repeat the treatment. You can

> > lose nothing by trying. If it doesn't work, I would like to

know

> > because it RARELY fails. Also, I might have more advice,

> depending

> > on your experience.

> >

> > Go to the grocery store, to the produce department, and buy

> about #2

> > of ginger root. The heavier the root, the more juice there is

in

> it.

> >

> > Run all of it through a good juicer ( don't use a blender).

> >

> > Save all the juice in a jar in the refrigerator and take a

> teaspoon

> > every morning on arising. At first, you will feel like you have

> just

> > swallowed 200 proof alcohol but you will soon get used to the

> > sensation.

> >

> > Do this every day for 3 weeks. Your symptoms may well

disappear

> long

> > before that but, if you stop before the 3 weeks, you will

almost

> > certainly have a relapse since the problem has been going on for

> so

> > long.

> >

> > If you ever have any symptoms return, if you will do this

right

> away

> > for a few days, it will work again. The longer you keep your

> > symptoms, before using the juice, the longer you will have to

take

> > it to prevent a relapse. Let others know how you do. Others

> deserve

> > to know that they have alternatives that their Conventional

> Medical

> > Physician is not telling them about because it is too

> inexpensive.

> >

> > You may ask: " If this works so well, why is it not

the " standard

> of

> > care " the State Medical Licensing Boards are so careful to

> enforce? "

> > For those who are really interested in the answer to that, I

> would

> > suggest reading Health at the Crossroads by Dean Black, PhD.

> This

> > little book (reprinted in January 1994) can be obtained for

> about

> > $10, including shipping and handling, by calling Valeen

Burdal

> at

> > 801-768-0560. Please tell others about this publication!

> >

> > Good Luck. Walt Stoll, MD

> >

> > P.S. Your symptoms are not really caused by a ginger

deficiency.

> I

> > am not suggesting this as a CURE for your causes. However, is

is

> a

> > great way to stop suffering. If you get motivated to look

into

> the

> > causes, get my book.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________

> __

> >

> ________

> __

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with

 

> Search.

> >

 

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

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Hi everyone...Thought I would make it easy to find that information Dr. Walt was suggesting and this way anyone in future who searches our message archives can find this information as well...Enjoy,Misty L. Trepkehttp://www..comUpper Gastrointestinal Symptom Relief by Dr. Walt Stoll, MDhttp://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html---100% safe and effective symptom relief, within 3 weeks, for cost of about $10.Hiatus Hernia (also known as Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disorder or GERD) is an increasingly common problem with heartburn in the upper abdominal/lower chest area. It is incurable from a conventional medical approach (short of a dangerous major surgical procedure). The solution is very inexpensive, 100% safe and available without any medical supervision. Actually most upper gastrointestinal symptoms would be improved by the same approach--why not give it a try? This has been a standard treatment in Traditional Chinese medicine for thousands of years. You would have nothing to lose but your symptoms. THEN, perhaps, you would ask the question that begs to be asked: "Why didn't MY doctor tell me that?" Here is something to try which, in my experience over the past 15+ years, nearly always works regardless of what the actual diagnosis is. It is perfectly safe and costs practically nothing. AND, if the condition EVER comes back, you can repeat the treatment. You can lose nothing by trying. If it doesn't work, I would like to know because it RARELY fails. Also, I might have more advice, depending on your experience. Go to the grocery store, to the produce department, and buy about #2 of ginger root. The heavier the root, the more juice there is in it. Run all of it through a good juicer ( don't use a blender). Save all the juice in a jar in the refrigerator and take a teaspoon every morning on arising. At first, you will feel like you have just swallowed 200 proof alcohol but you will soon get used to the sensation. Do this every day for 3 weeks. Your symptoms may well disappear long before that but, if you stop before the 3 weeks, you will almost certainly have a relapse since the problem has been going on for so long. If you ever have any symptoms return, if you will do this right away for a few days, it will work again. The longer you keep your symptoms, before using the juice, the longer you will have to take it to prevent a relapse. Let others know how you do. Others deserve to know that they have alternatives that their Conventional Medical Physician is not telling them about because it is too inexpensive. You may ask: "If this works so well, why is it not the "standard of care" the State Medical Licensing Boards are so careful to enforce?" For those who are really interested in the answer to that, I would suggest reading Health at the Crossroads by Dean Black, PhD. This little book (reprinted in January 1994) can be obtained for about $10, including shipping and handling, by calling Valeen Burdal at 801-768-0560. Please tell others about this publication! Good Luck. Walt Stoll, MD P.S. Your symptoms are not really caused by a ginger deficiency. I am not suggesting this as a CURE for your causes. However, is is a great way to stop suffering. If you get motivated to look into the causes, get my book. __________

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