Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Jean, Why not wait until he has the surgery and then treat what you see? Also, vit E should be used cautiously prior to surgery as it increases vaso-dilation and therefore potentially more bleeding. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > " Jean " <jeanvet >Chinese Medicine ><Chinese Medicine > > Melanoma >Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:29:45 -0300 > >Hi all. >I hava a patient with skin melanoma (located in the head). The patient is a >male, 53 years, Wood type person. Pulse: strong and wire; Tong: red. He is >going to do surgery and take it out (apparently not difficult). What is >your prognose about this? What about using chinese herbs to improve the >imune sistem. I am going to use the formula below : >Viscum (Loranthus parasiticus) Jiang Ya Ping Pian - Changed and together >with: > >Plus this other herbs: > >- Uncaria tomentosa - Cat's claw; > >- Bupleurum chinensis > >- Angelica sinensis > >- Panax ginseng > >- Ostrea (Ostra) > >- Radix Paeonia Rubra > >- Radix et Rhizoma Rhei (Ruibarbo); > >- Cássia tora L. (Fedegoso); > >- Rehmania glutinosa > >- Scolopendra - Centopéia asiática; > >- Vit E > >- Selênio > > > > > >Thanks in advance for the reply. > >Jean Joaquim > >Brazil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 This is almost always a HT offending LU Design. Surgery may excise the lesion but will do little to right the essential problem. Establish a HT-LU aggresion pattern, and then treat with binary Tone HT-Deplete Metal prescription. If it is Horary to the last 24 mts, the better. Dr. Holmes Jean wrote: > Hi all. > I hava a patient with skin melanoma (located in the head). The patient > is a male, 53 years, Wood type person. Pulse: strong and wire; Tong: > red. He is going to do surgery and take it out (apparently not > difficult). What is your prognose about this? What about using chinese > herbs to improve the imune sistem. I am going to use the formula below : > Viscum (Loranthus parasiticus) Jiang Ya Ping Pian - Changed and > together with: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 thank you for the advice Mike. Jean - Jean, Why not wait until he has the surgery and then treat what you see? Also, vit E should be used cautiously prior to surgery as it increases vaso-dilation and therefore potentially more bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Hi Dr. Holmes. Do you think I should sedate Ht and tonify Lung, because this patient seems to be really excess of fire. Sorry for all questions, but it is a person of family and the mind gets disturbed to think clearly... Thanks. Jean Joaquim, DVM, MSc - dkakobad Chinese Medicine Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:19 AM Re: Melanoma This is almost always a HT offending LU Design. Surgery may excise the lesion but will do little to right the essential problem. Establish a HT-LU aggresion pattern, and then treat with binary Tone HT-Deplete Metal prescription. If it is Horary to the last 24 mts, the better. Dr. Holmes Jean wrote: > Hi all. > I hava a patient with skin melanoma (located in the head). The patient > is a male, 53 years, Wood type person. Pulse: strong and wire; Tong: > red. He is going to do surgery and take it out (apparently not > difficult). What is your prognose about this? What about using chinese > herbs to improve the imune sistem. I am going to use the formula below : > Viscum (Loranthus parasiticus) Jiang Ya Ping Pian - Changed and > together with: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Ask without hesitating. First, support the surgery full tilt and be done with it. Next establish patterns. For HT: a linear tongue fissure. a crease on ear lobe tender points on L sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel tracks a tender LV 14 L a tender Small Heart on the SI channel on scapula tender HT shu Ren 14 tender HT mu on back insomnia around midnight For LU: twin indentations on anterior 1/5 of tongue small fissures on anterior 1/4 of tongue tender points on R sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel tracks a tender LV 14 R tender LU mu LU 1 and 2 tender LU shu on back insomnia around 3 AM to 5 AM It is important to settle the diagnosis beyond doubt. Even the history can render it and very easily. When settled, one can tone HT and reduce LU. This is best done using horary open points. For HT: tone a Mother point on any 5 Shu grid open during your treatment window. For LU: reduce a Son point on any 5 Shu grid open during your treatment window. The process is very delicate, uses shallowly placed thin needles. When you are ready and if you need the specific points, let me know time frames you will work in and I will email these out. If the diagnosis is exact, the improvement is remarkable and rapid. Dr. Holmes Jean wrote: > Hi Dr. Holmes. > Do you think I should sedate Ht and tonify Lung, because this patient > seems to be really excess of fire. Sorry for all questions, but it is > a person of family and the mind gets disturbed to think clearly... > Thanks. > Jean Joaquim, DVM, MSc > - > dkakobad > Chinese Medicine > Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:19 AM > Re: Melanoma > > > This is almost always a HT offending LU Design. Surgery may excise the > lesion but > will do little to right the essential problem. > > Establish a HT-LU aggresion pattern, and then treat with binary Tone > HT-Deplete Metal > prescription. If it is Horary to the last 24 mts, the better. > > Dr. Holmes > > > > Jean wrote: > > > Hi all. > > I hava a patient with skin melanoma (located in the head). The patient > > is a male, 53 years, Wood type person. Pulse: strong and wire; Tong: > > red. He is going to do surgery and take it out (apparently not > > difficult). What is your prognose about this? What about using chinese > > herbs to improve the imune sistem. I am going to use the formula below : > > Viscum (Loranthus parasiticus) Jiang Ya Ping Pian - Changed and > > together with: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Can the forum chip in with the HT and LU diagnostic markers they have found useful over years? This should become a sort of data bank which everyone can access in a pinch. Here are mine:: > For HT: > a linear tongue fissure. > a crease on ear lobe > tender points on L sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > tracks > a tender LV 14 L > a tender Small Heart on the SI channel on scapula > tender HT shu Ren 14 > tender HT mu on back > insomnia around midnight > > > For LU: > twin indentations on anterior 1/5 of tongue > small fissures on anterior 1/4 of tongue > tender points on R sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > tracks > a tender LV 14 R > tender LU mu LU 1 and 2 > tender LU shu on back > insomnia around 3 AM to 5 AM > Holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Dear, Dr. Holms Your signs By Organs, Meridians and Syndromes are jewels. I personally would like to see them all. But I think it is material for the book. I encourage you to write one. If you are writing, let us know when it is out. Peter --- dkakobad <dkaikobad wrote: Can the forum chip in with the HT and LU diagnostic markers they have found useful over years? This should become a sort of data bank which everyone can access in a pinch. Here are mine:: > For HT: > a linear tongue fissure. > a crease on ear lobe > tender points on L sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > tracks > a tender LV 14 L > a tender Small Heart on the SI channel on scapula > tender HT shu Ren 14 > tender HT mu on back > insomnia around midnight > > > For LU: > twin indentations on anterior 1/5 of tongue > small fissures on anterior 1/4 of tongue > tender points on R sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > tracks > a tender LV 14 R > tender LU mu LU 1 and 2 > tender LU shu on back > insomnia around 3 AM to 5 AM > Holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Will. Holmes. Peter Pavolotsky wrote: > Dear, Dr. Holms > > Your signs By Organs, Meridians and Syndromes are > jewels. I personally would like to see them all. > But I think it is material for the book. I encourage > you to write one. > If you are writing, let us know when it is out. > Peter > > > > > --- dkakobad <dkaikobad wrote: > > Can the forum chip in with the HT and LU diagnostic > markers they have > found useful over years? > This should become a sort of data bank which everyone > can access in a pinch. > > Here are mine:: > > > For HT: > > a linear tongue fissure. > > a crease on ear lobe > > tender points on L sternocostal inter spaces where > the last of K channel > > tracks > > a tender LV 14 L > > a tender Small Heart on the SI channel on scapula > > tender HT shu Ren 14 > > tender HT mu on back > > insomnia around midnight > > > > > > For LU: > > twin indentations on anterior 1/5 of tongue > > small fissures on anterior 1/4 of tongue > > tender points on R sternocostal inter spaces where > the last of K channel > > tracks > > a tender LV 14 R > > tender LU mu LU 1 and 2 > > tender LU shu on back > > insomnia around 3 AM to 5 AM > > > Holmes. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Holmes how do you differentiate Heart from Pericardium? Best wishes, dkakobad [dkaikobad] Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:59 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Melanoma Can the forum chip in with the HT and LU diagnostic markers they have found useful over years? This should become a sort of data bank which everyone can access in a pinch. Here are mine:: > For HT: > a linear tongue fissure. > a crease on ear lobe > tender points on L sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > tracks > a tender LV 14 L > a tender Small Heart on the SI channel on scapula > tender HT shu Ren 14 > tender HT mu on back > insomnia around midnight > > > For LU: > twin indentations on anterior 1/5 of tongue > small fissures on anterior 1/4 of tongue > tender points on R sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > tracks > a tender LV 14 R > tender LU mu LU 1 and 2 > tender LU shu on back > insomnia around 3 AM to 5 AM > Holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 " Holmes how do you differentiate Heart from Pericardium? Best wishes, " With love and kisses [being funny, ignore] HT is a viscus with definite placement and attributes. P is the internal corridor of a large passageway, in which all viscuses live, and has nothing definite about it. Ht is Red, delineated, directional, timely, with a Mother and Son. P is purple, vague, non directional, ever present, with neither Mother nor Son, the veritable Orphan on the 5 E Grid. When the Jiaos breathe in they become P. When P breathes out it becomes the Jiaos. HT is Red because it is Fire and gives off Heat. P is purple because it is not hot nor cold and gives off no Heat. HT hold the fire of Life. P holds the fire of Living. HT is lively and silly and tends to feel more than think. P is sedate and neither feels nor thinks, but remembers. If one falls in love, one has enacted a condition of HT. If one has fallen in love and it looks like one has been there before, one has enacted a condition of P. I have my own thoughts on LV holding the Hun, and will air these out one of these days and upset very many Masters in the Western sky who should know better than to hover over old haunts. Have to run, hope this suffices till the illustrious one returns. :-) Sharon wrote: > Holmes how do you differentiate Heart from Pericardium? > Best wishes, > > > > > dkakobad [dkaikobad] > Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:59 PM > Chinese Medicine > Re: Melanoma > > > Can the forum chip in with the HT and LU diagnostic markers they have > found useful over years? > This should become a sort of data bank which everyone can access in a > pinch. > > Here are mine:: > > > For HT: > > a linear tongue fissure. > > a crease on ear lobe > > tender points on L sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > > tracks > > a tender LV 14 L > > a tender Small Heart on the SI channel on scapula > > tender HT shu Ren 14 > > tender HT mu on back > > insomnia around midnight > > > > > > For LU: > > twin indentations on anterior 1/5 of tongue > > small fissures on anterior 1/4 of tongue > > tender points on R sternocostal inter spaces where the last of K channel > > tracks > > a tender LV 14 R > > tender LU mu LU 1 and 2 > > tender LU shu on back > > insomnia around 3 AM to 5 AM > > > Holmes. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 I was diagnosed with Metastatic Melanoma in Oct 07. Nov 07 I had a Lymph node dissection of the left neck and the original tumor site (left shoulder area). Additionally they went after the sentinel node under my left arm. Results of the pathology report were negative. The surgeon thinks I should do a follow-on chemo protocol (interferon). My question is why? There are no tumors and no way to test if I have the cancer. Additionally, another Doc told me to do the surgery and skip the chemo because it doesn't work. Any thoughts on this??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 My thoughts are oleander and a good overall anti-cancer lifestyle and protocol. Oleander has had very good success against melanoma. If there is no cancer indicated at present, keeping your body cleansed and your immune system and liver in good order should keep it at bay. Just remember, the original cancer defeated your immune system in the first place to gain a foothold so removal of the symptom (the malignant melonoma) has not addressed the underlying cause. Dietary and lifestyle changes are likely in order. Chemo is a temporary fix at best, in my opinion, and it certainly does not address the underlying causes of cancer - but it surely is profitable for mainstream medicine. oleander soup , " sch200 " <sch200 wrote: > > I was diagnosed with Metastatic Melanoma in Oct 07. Nov 07 I had a Lymph node dissection > of the left neck and the original tumor site (left shoulder area). Additionally they went after > the sentinel node under my left arm. Results of the pathology report were negative. The > surgeon thinks I should do a follow-on chemo protocol (interferon). My question is why? > There are no tumors and no way to test if I have the cancer. Additionally, another Doc told > me to do the surgery and skip the chemo because it doesn't work. Any thoughts on this??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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