Powerful clip -- partial transcript and historical note addendum

[Guest guest]

I inadvertently sent my last message before the final edit. I meant

to include this link for a perspective on the terrorist acts I

referred to:

 

http://www.palestine-encyclopedia.com/EPP/Chapter04_1of2.htm

 

Note the names of the terrorist leaders and the acts not only

attributed to them, but admitted by them.

 

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> It appears the the link only works when you click on the second

time

> it occurs (or cut and paste it) where it is all in one line:

>

> http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214 & ar=1050wmv & ak=nul

>

> Here is the transcript of the heavily edited video clip interview

> with Wafa Sultan

>

> http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1050.htm

>

> February 21, 2006 Clip No. 1050

>

> Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of

> Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages

> and That of the 21st Century

>

> Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American

> psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV

on

> February 21, 2006

>

> .

> Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a

> clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash

> between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a

> mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality

that

> belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and

> backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between

> barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and

> oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash

between

> human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights,

on

> other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like

beasts,

> and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is

not

> a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.

>

> [...]

>

> Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is

a

> clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and

> ignorance of the Muslims?

>

> Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.

>

> [...]

>

> Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was

> it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to

> discuss this issue, if you don't mind...

>

> Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this

> expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of

> civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: " I was ordered to fight

the

> people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger. " When the

> Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called

> to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves

> believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order to

> stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and

curricula,

> which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels.

>

> My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs.

> What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call

other

> people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he

> calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the " People of

> the Book, " and yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs,

or

> he calls the Christians " those who incur Allah's wrath. " Who told

you

> that they are " People of the Book " ? They are not the People of the

> Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific

books

> that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and

creative

> thinking. What gives you the right to call them " those who incur

> Allah's wrath, " or " those who have gone astray, " and then come here

> and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending

the

> beliefs of others?

>

> I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human

being.

> I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right

to

> believe in it.

>

> Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?

>

> Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human

> being who does not believe in the supernatural...

>

> Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in

> rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet,

> and the Koran...

>

> Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you.

>

> [...]

>

> Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you

don't

> throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but

other

> people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that

the

> Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let

> people have their beliefs.

>

> [...]

>

> Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the

Holocaust),

> and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not

with

> their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling.

Humanity

> owes most of the discoveries and Science of the 19th and 20th

> centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered

> throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and

> knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a

German

> restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have

> not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have

> turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single

> Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an

embassy.

> Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches,

> killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield

> any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for

> humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.

>

> The complete transcript is available at this link

>

> http://aqoul.com/images/wafa_sultan.pdf

>

> It is indeed a powerful interview and video and one can only wish

> that a great many Muslims would see the light in regards to

terrorism

> and intolerance and barbarism.

>

> However, I must point out for the sake of accuracy, that it was

> actually the Zionists who introduuced acts of terrorism to the

middle

> east, and that, though largely covered up in the western media they

> control, these same Zionists and their descendents continue to

commit

> acts of terrorism and atrocities in the middle east against the

Arabs.

>

> These Zionist terrorists, whose leaders came on to be the present

day

> leaders of Israel, appear to actually have desended from Khazaria a

> mostly forgotten but very powerful ancient nation that converted in

> mass to Judaism in the 8th century AD to avoid influence from the

> Roman Christians on the west and the Muslim Arabs on the east.

>

> When Khazaria finally fell to the Mongol horde, the people were

> driven east and came to settle in what is now Poland, Russia and

the

> Balkans and are believed to make up the vast majority of the world

> Jewish population

>

> This history is detailed in the book " The Thirteenth Tribe " by

Jewish

> author Author Koestler.

>

> http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/13th-tribe/

> http://partners.nytimes.com/books/00/01/02/specials/koestler-

> tribe.html

> http://fantompowa.net/Flame/koestlerindex.htm (where you can

download

> a .pdf file of the entire book for free)

>

> In no way should these historical facts detract from the bravery of

> the woman in the interview, nor the correctness of her condemnation

> of Muslim barbarism and intolerance.

>

> Perhaps, however, an unvarnished look at the historical background

> may provide food for thought as to why the Arabs are less than

happy

> over having their homelands taken away and given to people who did

> not have the same birthright claim they have and the way the

uprooted

> Palestinian people have been harshly oppressed and treated since

the

> establishment of the Zionist state.

>

> >

> oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I appologize that the link did not make it the first post. It

came

> to me from a friend who has been an emergency room nurse for 30

> years. -- Dr. Goebel

> >

> > Pretty powerful stuff this woman says!!!!!!

> > Tell em sista!! This is worth watching. I

have

> never seen anything like this.

> >

> > It is extremely surprising that the Arab

financed

> TV in Dubai would allow this to air. Be sure and watch this, it

is

> so powerful I have no doubt she now has a very large price on her

> head. I also have no doubt it won't be on the air long.

> >

> > She is one impressive woman. Here is a powerful

> and amazing statement on Al Jereeza television. The woman is

Wafa

> Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles. I would

> suggest watching it ASAP because I don't know how long the link

will

> be active. This film clip should be shown around the world

> repeatedly!

> >

> > http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?

> ai=214 & ar=1050wmv & ak=nul

> >

> >

> >

> > Note: forwarded message attached.

> >

> >

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> > This is probably the best clip I have seen this year. Watch an

> intelligent, brave woman speak of the current greatest reasons for

> war and destruction.

> >

> > I offer my apologies in advance for posting an issue not directly

> about cancer. You will probably be greatly inspired by this

woman's

> message. We need many more human beings who will speak directly of

> our challenging issues, rather than those timid souls who avoid all

> conflict to the point of compromising themselves into a state of no

> morals and no ethics.

> >

> >

> > Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukak, Peaceful Ramadan, et al,

> > Dr. Michael L. Goebel

> >

> > Note: forwarded message attached.

> >

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> >

> > Pretty powerful stuff this woman says!!!!!!

> >

> > Tell em sista!! This is worth watching. I have never seen

> anything like

> > this.

> >

> > It is extremely surprising that the Arab financed

> TV in

> > Dubai would allow this to air. Be sure and watch this, it is so

> powerful I have

> > no doubt she now has a very large price on her head. I also

have

> no doubt

> > it won't be on the air long.

> >

> > She is one impressive woman. Here is a powerful

> and amazing

> > statement on Al Jereeza television. The woman is Wafa Sultan,

an

> > Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles. I would suggest

> watching it ASAP because

> > I don't know how long the link will be active. This film clip

> should be

> > shown around the world repeatedly!

> >

> >

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