Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 It appears the the link only works when you click on the second time it occurs (or cut and paste it) where it is all in one line: http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214 & ar=1050wmv & ak=nul Here is the transcript of the heavily edited video clip interview with Wafa Sultan http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1050.htm February 21, 2006 Clip No. 1050 Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages and That of the 21st Century Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006 .. Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete. [...] Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims? Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean. [...] Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss this issue, if you don't mind... Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: " I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger. " When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order to stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels. My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the " People of the Book, " and yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the Christians " those who incur Allah's wrath. " Who told you that they are " People of the Book " ? They are not the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them " those who incur Allah's wrath, " or " those who have gone astray, " and then come here and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others? I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in it. Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic? Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural... Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran... Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you. [...] Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their beliefs. [...] Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and Science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them. The complete transcript is available at this link http://aqoul.com/images/wafa_sultan.pdf It is indeed a powerful interview and video and one can only wish that a great many Muslims would see the light in regards to terrorism and intolerance and barbarism. However, I must point out for the sake of accuracy, that it was actually the Zionists who introduuced acts of terrorism to the middle east, and that, though largely covered up in the western media they control, these same Zionists and their descendents continue to commit acts of terrorism and atrocities in the middle east against the Arabs. These Zionist terrorists, whose leaders came on to be the present day leaders of Israel, appear to actually have desended from Khazaria a mostly forgotten but very powerful ancient nation that converted in mass to Judaism in the 8th century AD to avoid influence from the Roman Christians on the west and the Muslim Arabs on the east. When Khazaria finally fell to the Mongol horde, the people were driven east and came to settle in what is now Poland, Russia and the Balkans and are believed to make up the vast majority of the world Jewish population This history is detailed in the book " The Thirteenth Tribe " by Jewish author Author Koestler. http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/13th-tribe/ http://partners.nytimes.com/books/00/01/02/specials/koestler- tribe.html http://fantompowa.net/Flame/koestlerindex.htm (where you can download a .pdf file of the entire book for free) In no way should these historical facts detract from the bravery of the woman in the interview, nor the correctness of her condemnation of Muslim barbarism and intolerance. Perhaps, however, an unvarnished look at the historical background may provide food for thought as to why the Arabs are less than happy over having their homelands taken away and given to people who did not have the same birthright claim they have and the way the uprooted Palestinian people have been harshly oppressed and treated since the establishment of the Zionist state. oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > I appologize that the link did not make it the first post. It came to me from a friend who has been an emergency room nurse for 30 years. -- Dr. Goebel > > Pretty powerful stuff this woman says!!!!!! > Tell em sista!! This is worth watching. I have never seen anything like this. > > It is extremely surprising that the Arab financed TV in Dubai would allow this to air. Be sure and watch this, it is so powerful I have no doubt she now has a very large price on her head. I also have no doubt it won't be on the air long. > > She is one impressive woman. Here is a powerful and amazing statement on Al Jereeza television. The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles. I would suggest watching it ASAP because I don't know how long the link will be active. This film clip should be shown around the world repeatedly! > > http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp? ai=214 & ar=1050wmv & ak=nul > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > This is probably the best clip I have seen this year. Watch an intelligent, brave woman speak of the current greatest reasons for war and destruction. > > I offer my apologies in advance for posting an issue not directly about cancer. You will probably be greatly inspired by this woman's message. We need many more human beings who will speak directly of our challenging issues, rather than those timid souls who avoid all conflict to the point of compromising themselves into a state of no morals and no ethics. > > > Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukak, Peaceful Ramadan, et al, > Dr. Michael L. Goebel > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > ===== > > just received this from Marvin - thanx! > > ===== > > Pretty powerful stuff this woman says!!!!!! > > Tell em sista!! This is worth watching. I have never seen anything like > this. > > It is extremely surprising that the Arab financed TV in > Dubai would allow this to air. Be sure and watch this, it is so powerful I have > no doubt she now has a very large price on her head. I also have no doubt > it won't be on the air long. > > She is one impressive woman. Here is a powerful and amazing > statement on Al Jereeza television. 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