Oleander and MSM, Filtering, plus Supplements and the Liver

[Guest guest]

How well did you filter your OS, Jim? What you described has never

been known to happen with well filtered OS, the OPC supplement or the

patented medicine Anvirzel.

 

I would caution that taking a great many supplments, unless you

really know what you are doing, may not be a good idea. You could

have supplements offsetting one another, supplements having an

additive effect beyond what is safe, or otherwise have a combination

with unforseen results.

 

One of the most common problems people who take multiple supplements

have is liver problems. A great many people who use supplements are

battling sn illness or condition directly related to an impaired

liver. Too many of the wrong supplements can be very difficult for

the liver to process - especially when a person has an impaired liver

to begin with, because you have a liver operating at less than full

efficiency which is further taxed from the toxins being released as

they treat and address their health problem and then, to add insult

to literal injury, this already impaired liver with a greater

workload is also expected to somehow handle the job of properly

handling the load of processing multiple supplements.

 

As a rule of thumb, if you are ill, you probably do have liver

problems of one sort or another and you should seriously take a look

at liver cleanses and detoxes, changing your diet to one that is both

healthy and least taxing on the liver, and supplements which have

been proven to help protect and regenerate the liver.

 

In my own case, far too much hops and barley based beverages, as well

as those made from sour mash, pototoes and my beloved blue agave

plant, a lifetsytle that lasted past the age of 40 that presumed

immortality, and too much Blue Bell Icecream fast food, processed

foods, etc, all combined to create an enlarged fatty liver, something

I have only recently figured out.

 

My solution is a much stricter diet that includes more raw fruits and

vegetables, less meat, drinking beet juice, etc., liver cleanses and

detox, more healthy oils that help clear the bile ducts and keep them

flowing, such as coconuts, plenty of fresh water, sunshine, exercise,

much less sugar (damn I love that Bluebell and Cokes too, not to

mention those dang Snicker bars that jump in my pockets or hands when

I am not looking - llol), and the proven supplements for good liver

health, including protection and regeneration:

 

Milke Thistle (Silymarin)

Selenium

MSM

Turmeric

Alpha Lipoic Acid Acid

 

Out side of those items, I have cut way back on taking other

supplements. I do take OS in a maintenance dose, Vitamin D3, some

Colloidal Silver as needed, plant derived minerals (half dose) and

OxyGen.

 

When my liver improves I may add a few more items back in, but in my

case that may take quite some time, just as the damage did, and the

liver must be returned from an organ that stores fat to one that only

helps process and elimate fat, as well as toxins, from the body.

 

I would highly suggest that those who actually have a health problem

such as cancer consider doing all they can, even if that means

holding off on some desired supplements, until the liver impairment

is addressed, and then continuing to take actions and supplements for

the liver once the impairment is corrected.

 

Back to the original issue of MMS and OS - one of the things I am

still not settled on is the risks of MMS, although I am impressed

with much of what I have read so far. I am also not sure that many or

what are basicaly the same benifits might not also be gained with

iodine.

 

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

 

 

 

oleander soup , " Jim Kitchens " <jimk32

wrote:

>

> I do not remember if I was taking the MMS first and then started on

the OPS, but when I combined the two and I was taking high dosages of

the MMS. I started throwing up a few hours later and then diarrhea

set in. I could not urinate with out crapping , so I learned real

fast to sit to pee and I had zero control of my bowels and had about

nine accidents. I stopped using the MMS, but continued with the OPC (

3 teaspoons/day ), but my diarrhea lasted another 3 or 4 weeks. I did

not go any where with out extra underwear. It has all cleared up now

and I will start on the MMS again, but with a low dose. I'm sure I

created my on problem . I forgot to mention I am taking all kinds of

supplements and that may have added to the problem. Jim K

> -

> chrisrinn

> oleander soup

> Friday, November 23, 2007 2:06 PM

> Oleander and MMS w/ possible not-so-

intelligent-question

>

>

> Are there any of you that would be willing to share your opinion

> regarding MMS combined with oleander (OPC)? I'm currently taking

1

> tblsp oleander 3x daily, combined with other supplements for HCV.

I'm

> already struggling with diarrhea taking the OPC. Because the MMS

is

> an oxidizer, Jim Humble suggests if taking Vit C (antioxidant),

to do

> so approx. 4 hours after taking the MMS. Is Oleander considered

to be

> an antioxidant? If so, do you think it would be advisable to take

the

> oleander after time has passed taking the MMS? I apologize if

this is

> a not-so-intelligent question, but I get confused with ALL of the

> information I have gained in less than a year's time.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tony, I have not tried the OS yet as I have not found any oleander trees that were not close to busy streets or highways, therefore I have been using the OPC and I called it OPS in my reply. I am using almost everything that has cured cancer and I have been concerned that some of the supplements could counter act each other. I had my left knee replaced 10/10/07 and they made me get off all supplements two weeks before the surgery and that concerned me. I waited five weeks before I started using them again as they were checking my blood each week. I am back on everything except CS and iodine. They told me Wednesday that they had never seen anyone my age recover so fast. Every thing is going great, now I have to decide what to give up. Thanks again, Jim K

 

-

Tony

oleander soup

Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:41 PM

Oleander and MSM, Filtering, plus Supplements and the Liver

 

 

How well did you filter your OS, Jim? What you described has never been known to happen with well filtered OS, the OPC supplement or the patented medicine Anvirzel.I would caution that taking a great many supplments, unless you really know what you are doing, may not be a good idea. You could have supplements offsetting one another, supplements having an additive effect beyond what is safe, or otherwise have a combination with unforseen results.One of the most common problems people who take multiple supplements have is liver problems. A great many people who use supplements are battling sn illness or condition directly related to an impaired liver. Too many of the wrong supplements can be very difficult for the liver to process - especially when a person has an impaired liver to begin with, because you have a liver operating at less than full efficiency which is further taxed from the toxins being released as they treat and address their health problem and then, to add insult to literal injury, this already impaired liver with a greater workload is also expected to somehow handle the job of properly handling the load of processing multiple supplements.As a rule of thumb, if you are ill, you probably do have liver problems of one sort or another and you should seriously take a look at liver cleanses and detoxes, changing your diet to one that is both healthy and least taxing on the liver, and supplements which have been proven to help protect and regenerate the liver.In my own case, far too much hops and barley based beverages, as well as those made from sour mash, pototoes and my beloved blue agave plant, a lifetsytle that lasted past the age of 40 that presumed immortality, and too much Blue Bell Icecream fast food, processed foods, etc, all combined to create an enlarged fatty liver, something I have only recently figured out.My solution is a much stricter diet that includes more raw fruits and vegetables, less meat, drinking beet juice, etc., liver cleanses and detox, more healthy oils that help clear the bile ducts and keep them flowing, such as coconuts, plenty of fresh water, sunshine, exercise, much less sugar (damn I love that Bluebell and Cokes too, not to mention those dang Snicker bars that jump in my pockets or hands when I am not looking - llol), and the proven supplements for good liver health, including protection and regeneration:Milke Thistle (Silymarin)SeleniumMSMTurmericAlpha Lipoic Acid AcidOut side of those items, I have cut way back on taking other supplements. I do take OS in a maintenance dose, Vitamin D3, some Colloidal Silver as needed, plant derived minerals (half dose) and OxyGen.When my liver improves I may add a few more items back in, but in my case that may take quite some time, just as the damage did, and the liver must be returned from an organ that stores fat to one that only helps process and elimate fat, as well as toxins, from the body.I would highly suggest that those who actually have a health problem such as cancer consider doing all they can, even if that means holding off on some desired supplements, until the liver impairment is addressed, and then continuing to take actions and supplements for the liver once the impairment is corrected.Back to the original issue of MMS and OS - one of the things I am still not settled on is the risks of MMS, although I am impressed with much of what I have read so far. I am also not sure that many or what are basicaly the same benifits might not also be gained with iodine.Live long, live healthy, live happy!Tony oleander soup , "Jim Kitchens" <jimk32 wrote:>> I do not remember if I was taking the MMS first and then started on the OPS, but when I combined the two and I was taking high dosages of the MMS. I started throwing up a few hours later and then diarrhea set in. I could not urinate with out crapping , so I learned real fast to sit to pee and I had zero control of my bowels and had about nine accidents. I stopped using the MMS, but continued with the OPC ( 3 teaspoons/day ), but my diarrhea lasted another 3 or 4 weeks. I did not go any where with out extra underwear. It has all cleared up now and I will start on the MMS again, but with a low dose. I'm sure I created my on problem . I forgot to mention I am taking all kinds of supplements and that may have added to the problem. Jim K > - > chrisrinn > oleander soup > Friday, November 23, 2007 2:06 PM> Oleander and MMS w/ possible not-so-intelligent-question> > > Are there any of you that would be willing to share your opinion > regarding MMS combined with oleander (OPC)? I'm currently taking 1 > tblsp oleander 3x daily, combined with other supplements for HCV. I'm > already struggling with diarrhea taking the OPC. Because the MMS is > an oxidizer, Jim Humble suggests if taking Vit C (antioxidant), to do > so approx. 4 hours after taking the MMS. Is Oleander considered to be > an antioxidant? If so, do you think it would be advisable to take the > oleander after time has passed taking the MMS? I apologize if this is > a not-so-intelligent question, but I get confused with ALL of the > information I have gained in less than a year's time.>

[Guest guest]

That is great news about your condition and fast recovery. I suggest

you try the OPC again briefly to see if you get the same reaction and

then filtering the OPC through some unbleached coffee filters and see

if there is a difference.

 

IF THERE IS, please let us know and I will make a very strong

suggestion to Marc to use better filtration. As far as I know, he

may use very good filtration now, but a year or so ago I recall he

and others being skeptical about the filtration issue whereas I am

now firmly convinced of the need for it.

 

I might mention that lesser filtration usually only results in a

period of fairly mild side effects and the body does normally adjust

to them in short order after beginning the OS and sometimes after

increasing the dosage amount as you work your way up to the maximum

dose - and I would never let a question about filtration prevent me

from ordering the OPC. It is a wonderful product, made under very

strict controls. But it might need better filtration. If you tell us

there is a difference, then on can simply order it and filter it an

extra time as a precaution against having the loose bowels - which I

strongly suspect in your case come from some combination of all the

supplements you take and not just the OPC.

 

I do not think that oxidizers and antioxidants are mutually exclusive

or even necessarily reactive together - but it would be a good idea

to take them with at least a 4 hour separation. The same holds true

for other supplements that are commonly taken. Zinc and Magnesium

for example - they should be taken separately because the appear to

interfere with the absorption of one another when taken at the same

time,

 

In the future, if I were to have a major surgical event (heaven

forbid), I would take two 500 mg capsules of bromelain daily for

several days leading up to the surgery, perhaps leaving off only a

day or two before the the surgery and then continue again very soon

if not immediately after.

 

As you can see in the article I compiled (Bromelain The Wonder

Supplement - /bromelain.htm) bromelain speeds

healing by as much as four times faster in all kinds of injuries,

wounds, bruises and surgeries.

 

Just my own opinion here, but CS and iodine are two items that would

be the very last things I would ever discontinue. If you are taking

MMS, it appears to do much the same thing as iodine though.

 

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

 

 

oleander soup , " Jim Kitchens " <jimk32

wrote:

>

> Thanks Tony, I have not tried the OS yet as I have not found any

oleander trees that were not close to busy streets or highways,

therefore I have been using the OPC and I called it OPS in my reply.

I am using almost everything that has cured cancer and I have been

concerned that some of the supplements could counter act each other.

I had my left knee replaced 10/10/07 and they made me get off all

supplements two weeks before the surgery and that concerned me. I

waited five weeks before I started using them again as they were

checking my blood each week. I am back on everything except CS and

iodine. They told me Wednesday that they had never seen anyone my age

recover so fast. Every thing is going great, now I have to decide

what to give up. Thanks again, Jim K

> -

> > oleander soup

> Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:41 PM

> Oleander and MSM, Filtering, plus

Supplements and the Liver

>

>

> How well did you filter your OS, Jim? What you described has

never

> been known to happen with well filtered OS, the OPC supplement or

the

> patented medicine Anvirzel.

>

> I would caution that taking a great many supplments, unless you

> really know what you are doing, may not be a good idea. You could

> have supplements offsetting one another, supplements having an

> additive effect beyond what is safe, or otherwise have a

combination

> with unforseen results.

>

> One of the most common problems people who take multiple

supplements

> have is liver problems. A great many people who use supplements

are

> battling sn illness or condition directly related to an impaired

> liver. Too many of the wrong supplements can be very difficult

for

> the liver to process - especially when a person has an impaired

liver

> to begin with, because you have a liver operating at less than

full

> efficiency which is further taxed from the toxins being released

as

> they treat and address their health problem and then, to add

insult

> to literal injury, this already impaired liver with a greater

> workload is also expected to somehow handle the job of properly

> handling the load of processing multiple supplements.

>

> As a rule of thumb, if you are ill, you probably do have liver

> problems of one sort or another and you should seriously take a

look

> at liver cleanses and detoxes, changing your diet to one that is

both

> healthy and least taxing on the liver, and supplements which have

> been proven to help protect and regenerate the liver.

>

> In my own case, far too much hops and barley based beverages, as

well

> as those made from sour mash, pototoes and my beloved blue agave

> plant, a lifetsytle that lasted past the age of 40 that presumed

> immortality, and too much Blue Bell Icecream fast food, processed

> foods, etc, all combined to create an enlarged fatty liver,

something

> I have only recently figured out.

>

> My solution is a much stricter diet that includes more raw fruits

and

> vegetables, less meat, drinking beet juice, etc., liver cleanses

and

> detox, more healthy oils that help clear the bile ducts and keep

them

> flowing, such as coconuts, plenty of fresh water, sunshine,

exercise,

> much less sugar (damn I love that Bluebell and Cokes too, not to

> mention those dang Snicker bars that jump in my pockets or hands

when

> I am not looking - llol), and the proven supplements for good

liver

> health, including protection and regeneration:

>

> Milke Thistle (Silymarin)

> Selenium

> MSM

> Turmeric

> Alpha Lipoic Acid Acid

>

> Out side of those items, I have cut way back on taking other

> supplements. I do take OS in a maintenance dose, Vitamin D3, some

> Colloidal Silver as needed, plant derived minerals (half dose)

and

> OxyGen.

>

> When my liver improves I may add a few more items back in, but in

my

> case that may take quite some time, just as the damage did, and

the

> liver must be returned from an organ that stores fat to one that

only

> helps process and elimate fat, as well as toxins, from the body.

>

> I would highly suggest that those who actually have a health

problem

> such as cancer consider doing all they can, even if that means

> holding off on some desired supplements, until the liver

impairment

> is addressed, and then continuing to take actions and supplements

for

> the liver once the impairment is corrected.

>

> Back to the original issue of MMS and OS - one of the things I am

> still not settled on is the risks of MMS, although I am impressed

> with much of what I have read so far. I am also not sure that

many or

> what are basicaly the same benifits might not also be gained with

> iodine.

>

> Live long, live healthy, live happy!

>

> >

> oleander soup , " Jim Kitchens " <jimk32@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I do not remember if I was taking the MMS first and then

started on

> the OPS, but when I combined the two and I was taking high

dosages of

> the MMS. I started throwing up a few hours later and then

diarrhea

> set in. I could not urinate with out crapping , so I learned real

> fast to sit to pee and I had zero control of my bowels and had

about

> nine accidents. I stopped using the MMS, but continued with the

OPC (

> 3 teaspoons/day ), but my diarrhea lasted another 3 or 4 weeks. I

did

> not go any where with out extra underwear. It has all cleared up

now

> and I will start on the MMS again, but with a low dose. I'm sure

I

> created my on problem . I forgot to mention I am taking all kinds

of

> supplements and that may have added to the problem. Jim K

> > -

> > chrisrinn

> > oleander soup

> > Friday, November 23, 2007 2:06 PM

> > Oleander and MMS w/ possible not-so-

> intelligent-question

> >

> >

> > Are there any of you that would be willing to share your

opinion

> > regarding MMS combined with oleander (OPC)? I'm currently

taking

> 1

> > tblsp oleander 3x daily, combined with other supplements for

HCV.

> I'm

> > already struggling with diarrhea taking the OPC. Because the

MMS

> is

> > an oxidizer, Jim Humble suggests if taking Vit C (antioxidant),

> to do

> > so approx. 4 hours after taking the MMS. Is Oleander considered

> to be

> > an antioxidant? If so, do you think it would be advisable to

take

> the

> > oleander after time has passed taking the MMS? I apologize if

> this is

> > a not-so-intelligent question, but I get confused with ALL of

the

> > information I have gained in less than a year's time.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim for your reply. I too have had some pretty serious

diarrhea but think after reading Tony's reply (thanks to you too

Tony) that I will taper off some of my supplements (particularly the

multi vitamins and some enzymes for digestion). I will continue

with food supplements and others that are included in Tony's liver

support protcol recommendation. I'm still on the fence about adding

the MMS with the OPC but the posts and information coming across

regarding MMS are for sure encouraging. I don't know that much about

iodine supplementation and again not sure about it with OPC. More

research and more questions to come.

 

I think for now the best bet may be to stick with what I'm doing. I

have blood work due in January and should be able to see what

positive results have been gained. I'll be sure to let you know.

 

Thanks again - both of you.

~Chris

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> That is great news about your condition and fast recovery. I

suggest

> you try the OPC again briefly to see if you get the same reaction

and

> then filtering the OPC through some unbleached coffee filters and

see

> if there is a difference.

>

> IF THERE IS, please let us know and I will make a very strong

> suggestion to Marc to use better filtration. As far as I know, he

> may use very good filtration now, but a year or so ago I recall he

> and others being skeptical about the filtration issue whereas I am

> now firmly convinced of the need for it.

>

> I might mention that lesser filtration usually only results in a

> period of fairly mild side effects and the body does normally

adjust

> to them in short order after beginning the OS and sometimes after

> increasing the dosage amount as you work your way up to the

maximum

> dose - and I would never let a question about filtration prevent

me

> from ordering the OPC. It is a wonderful product, made under very

> strict controls. But it might need better filtration. If you tell

us

> there is a difference, then on can simply order it and filter it

an

> extra time as a precaution against having the loose bowels - which

I

> strongly suspect in your case come from some combination of all

the

> supplements you take and not just the OPC.

>

> I do not think that oxidizers and antioxidants are mutually

exclusive

> or even necessarily reactive together - but it would be a good

idea

> to take them with at least a 4 hour separation. The same holds

true

> for other supplements that are commonly taken. Zinc and Magnesium

> for example - they should be taken separately because the appear

to

> interfere with the absorption of one another when taken at the

same

> time,

>

> In the future, if I were to have a major surgical event (heaven

> forbid), I would take two 500 mg capsules of bromelain daily for

> several days leading up to the surgery, perhaps leaving off only a

> day or two before the the surgery and then continue again very

soon

> if not immediately after.

>

> As you can see in the article I compiled (Bromelain The Wonder

> Supplement - /bromelain.htm) bromelain speeds

> healing by as much as four times faster in all kinds of injuries,

> wounds, bruises and surgeries.

>

> Just my own opinion here, but CS and iodine are two items that

would

> be the very last things I would ever discontinue. If you are

taking

> MMS, it appears to do much the same thing as iodine though.

>

> Live long, live healthy, live happy!

>

> >

> oleander soup , " Jim Kitchens " <jimk32@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Tony, I have not tried the OS yet as I have not found any

> oleander trees that were not close to busy streets or highways,

> therefore I have been using the OPC and I called it OPS in my

reply.

> I am using almost everything that has cured cancer and I have been

> concerned that some of the supplements could counter act each

other.

> I had my left knee replaced 10/10/07 and they made me get off all

> supplements two weeks before the surgery and that concerned me. I

> waited five weeks before I started using them again as they were

> checking my blood each week. I am back on everything except CS and

> iodine. They told me Wednesday that they had never seen anyone my

age

> recover so fast. Every thing is going great, now I have to decide

> what to give up. Thanks again, Jim K

> > -

> > > > oleander soup

> > Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:41 PM

> > Oleander and MSM, Filtering, plus

> Supplements and the Liver

> >

> >

> > How well did you filter your OS, Jim? What you described has

> never

> > been known to happen with well filtered OS, the OPC supplement

or

> the

> > patented medicine Anvirzel.

> >

> > I would caution that taking a great many supplments, unless

you

> > really know what you are doing, may not be a good idea. You

could

> > have supplements offsetting one another, supplements having an

> > additive effect beyond what is safe, or otherwise have a

> combination

> > with unforseen results.

> >

> > One of the most common problems people who take multiple

> supplements

> > have is liver problems. A great many people who use

supplements

> are

> > battling sn illness or condition directly related to an

impaired

> > liver. Too many of the wrong supplements can be very difficult

> for

> > the liver to process - especially when a person has an

impaired

> liver

> > to begin with, because you have a liver operating at less than

> full

> > efficiency which is further taxed from the toxins being

released

> as

> > they treat and address their health problem and then, to add

> insult

> > to literal injury, this already impaired liver with a greater

> > workload is also expected to somehow handle the job of

properly

> > handling the load of processing multiple supplements.

> >

> > As a rule of thumb, if you are ill, you probably do have liver

> > problems of one sort or another and you should seriously take

a

> look

> > at liver cleanses and detoxes, changing your diet to one that

is

> both

> > healthy and least taxing on the liver, and supplements which

have

> > been proven to help protect and regenerate the liver.

> >

> > In my own case, far too much hops and barley based beverages,

as

> well

> > as those made from sour mash, pototoes and my beloved blue

agave

> > plant, a lifetsytle that lasted past the age of 40 that

presumed

> > immortality, and too much Blue Bell Icecream fast food,

processed

> > foods, etc, all combined to create an enlarged fatty liver,

> something

> > I have only recently figured out.

> >

> > My solution is a much stricter diet that includes more raw

fruits

> and

> > vegetables, less meat, drinking beet juice, etc., liver

cleanses

> and

> > detox, more healthy oils that help clear the bile ducts and

keep

> them

> > flowing, such as coconuts, plenty of fresh water, sunshine,

> exercise,

> > much less sugar (damn I love that Bluebell and Cokes too, not

to

> > mention those dang Snicker bars that jump in my pockets or

hands

> when

> > I am not looking - llol), and the proven supplements for good

> liver

> > health, including protection and regeneration:

> >

> > Milke Thistle (Silymarin)

> > Selenium

> > MSM

> > Turmeric

> > Alpha Lipoic Acid Acid

> >

> > Out side of those items, I have cut way back on taking other

> > supplements. I do take OS in a maintenance dose, Vitamin D3,

some

> > Colloidal Silver as needed, plant derived minerals (half dose)

> and

> > OxyGen.

> >

> > When my liver improves I may add a few more items back in, but

in

> my

> > case that may take quite some time, just as the damage did,

and

> the

> > liver must be returned from an organ that stores fat to one

that

> only

> > helps process and elimate fat, as well as toxins, from the

body.

> >

> > I would highly suggest that those who actually have a health

> problem

> > such as cancer consider doing all they can, even if that means

> > holding off on some desired supplements, until the liver

> impairment

> > is addressed, and then continuing to take actions and

supplements

> for

> > the liver once the impairment is corrected.

> >

> > Back to the original issue of MMS and OS - one of the things I

am

> > still not settled on is the risks of MMS, although I am

impressed

> > with much of what I have read so far. I am also not sure that

> many or

> > what are basicaly the same benifits might not also be gained

with

> > iodine.

> >

> > Live long, live healthy, live happy!

> >

> > > >

> > oleander soup , " Jim Kitchens " <jimk32@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I do not remember if I was taking the MMS first and then

> started on

> > the OPS, but when I combined the two and I was taking high

> dosages of

> > the MMS. I started throwing up a few hours later and then

> diarrhea

> > set in. I could not urinate with out crapping , so I learned

real

> > fast to sit to pee and I had zero control of my bowels and had

> about

> > nine accidents. I stopped using the MMS, but continued with

the

> OPC (

> > 3 teaspoons/day ), but my diarrhea lasted another 3 or 4

weeks. I

> did

> > not go any where with out extra underwear. It has all cleared

up

> now

> > and I will start on the MMS again, but with a low dose. I'm

sure

> I

> > created my on problem . I forgot to mention I am taking all

kinds

> of

> > supplements and that may have added to the problem. Jim K

> > > -

> > > chrisrinn

> > > oleander soup

> > > Friday, November 23, 2007 2:06 PM

> > > Oleander and MMS w/ possible not-so-

> > intelligent-question

> > >

> > >

> > > Are there any of you that would be willing to share your

> opinion

> > > regarding MMS combined with oleander (OPC)? I'm currently

> taking

> > 1

> > > tblsp oleander 3x daily, combined with other supplements for

> HCV.

> > I'm

> > > already struggling with diarrhea taking the OPC. Because the

> MMS

> > is

> > > an oxidizer, Jim Humble suggests if taking Vit C

(antioxidant),

> > to do

> > > so approx. 4 hours after taking the MMS. Is Oleander

considered

> > to be

> > > an antioxidant? If so, do you think it would be advisable to

> take

> > the

> > > oleander after time has passed taking the MMS? I apologize

if

> > this is

> > > a not-so-intelligent question, but I get confused with ALL

of

> the

> > > information I have gained in less than a year's time.

> > >

> >

>