Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 That is indeed good to hear, Mary. If it were me, as I have stated before, I would opt for both the OPC and the home made do it yourself " soup " , which is what my 84 year old uncle is doing and he is beating lung cancer that mainstream medicine was unable to handle. You know, the body is an amazing thing and I believe very strongly that it tells us what it needs if only we would listen. For example, being very thirsty could be a clear signal that the body needs plenty of pure water and organic juices to flush toxins out. Another example is when you feel very tired and sleepy when taking herbal medications or large amounts of colloidal silver, or even when following an anti-cancer diet such as the Budwig diet. The body heals best when you are asleep, and the need for more sleep could be a positive signal that you are healing and the body wants to help the process along. Yet another example may be loss of appetite. That could be a signal that the body needs something other than just nutrition - such as a good water and/or juice fast or cleansing, or both. Just my opinions, but I think those signals were designed for us by God who is indeed faithful, and provided us with an immune system to beat and ward off virtually all illnesses so long as we nourish it with a healthy diet and practice good hygeine and lifestyle. I might add that the body and was not designed (or adapted, if one chooses to see it that way - I think they are one and the same) to handle all the pesticides, herbicides and other toxins man has invented and put into our soil, food, air and water, nor the depleted soils and genetically modified crops which have poor nutrition, or the sedentary lifestyles of being glued to reality shows or 24/7 sports on the idiot tube, nintendo games, and/or the computer. But fortunately, in addition to our bodies and immune systems, we have also been provided with an abundance of botanicals, vitamins and minerals to help correct the sins we commit against ourselves and our environment. Did I just say " computer " ? Yikes - time to take a break and go get a daily dose of reality, fresh air and sunshine and take in the peaceful scenic views as I make the mile plus walk around the mini- mountain I live on here in " God's country " (the Texas Hill Country)! Live long, live healthy, live happy! oleander soup , maihards wrote: > > > > Tony Just an update. Apart from being very thirsty I no longer have the strange > sensations in my lips, tongue and mucosal lining of my mouth. My gut is almost > back to normal. Which is regular and of good consistancy, has always been > the least of my concerns. I have a friend who has some bushes in her yard > where she has lived at least 13 years and I can access her bushes when I > return to Australia next week. Thank you so much for your help and to our > Oleander Soup web site/blog. I am so grateful. > Thanks be to God, who is faithful. > Mary K > > >-- Original Message -- > >oleander soup > > " Tony " > >Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:24:09 -0000 > > The source for Sutherlandia OPC oleander supplement > >oleander soup > > > > > >Mary, > > > >Marc is a longtime member of this group and I know him from before > >this group was started due to his work with oleander modeled after > >the home remedy version of the original Ozel patented medicine > >Anvirzel. > > > >Marc's website address is http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com > > > >and it should provide a link to contact him privately if you wish (if > >not, I will be happy to furnish you his email address privately). > > > >The dietary supplement version, like the home remedy itself, is not > >suitable for injection. Only the patented medicine Anvirzel is, and > >it costs $2700 for a three month supply. However, it is my opinion > >that it is virtually identical to the home remedy and oleander > >portion of the supplement, and it is usually taken orally now. > > > >The injections can be rather painful around the injection site. > > > >> > > >oleander soup , maihards@ wrote: > >> > >> > >> Ok Tony, I stoped taking it on Sunday after reading your emails. > >How do > >> I contact Marc in South Africa for the OPC? I looked for an organic > >nursery > >> in the sydney area. The search engine came up with none. How can I > >obtain > >> the patented oleander product? Does it come in an oral preperation > >as well > >> as an IV infusion? I have a doctor that will administer it in his > >office. > >> Thank you so much for your help and input. God is faithful. By His > >grace > >> He has led me thus far. He will continue to lead me. Praise Him. > >> Blessings, > >> Mary K > >> > >> > >> Original Message -- > >> >oleander soup > >> > " Tony " @> > >> >Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:37:05 -0000 > >> > Mary, get rid of that soup! > >> >oleander soup > >> > > >> > > >> >Mary, if you have tingling and chapped lips when you touch > >the " soup " > >> >to your lips, ditch the " soup " ! Additional filtering will not > >help. > >> > > >> >Although I would not recommend it, some people have taken oleander > >> >plants from commercial nurseries and watered them, as well as > >washed > >> >them, for at least a couple of weeks, helping leach the pesticides > >> >from the soil and allowing them to break down and pass through the > >> >plants, as well as be washed off the plants. > >> > > >> >If it were myself, I would only use commercial plants that I had > >> >grown at home for an entire year without pesticides. > >> > > >> >Actually, as it is now, I get my " soup " from one of the most > >> >experienced " soup " makers in the country, if not the world. Even > >so, > >> >if I had cancer I believe that I would also get the Sutherlandia > >OPC > >> >supplement form from Marc in South Africa. > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >oleander soup , " mary k " <maihards@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi Pam, > >> >> > >> >> Thank you for responding. > >> >> My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is > >pesticides > >> >could be > >> >> the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth, > >> >lips and > >> >> tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will > >make > >> >a new > >> >> batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going > >to > >> >Auckland > >> >> tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt > >> >Eden. I > >> >> would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9 > >631 > >> >7372. > >> >> They operate a business from home so will have the business > >> >greeting on the > >> >> answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to > >> >whom I am > >> >> speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear > >from > >> >you. I > >> >> have not had any conventional/traditional medical intervention > >> >apart from a > >> >> biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a > >> >believer > >> >> and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past > >> >14months. God is > >> >> my refuge and strength. > >> >> > >> >> Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you. > >> >> > >> >> Mary K > >> >> ---- > >> >> > >> >> Pam Griffin > >> >> 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM > >> >> oleander soup > >> >> Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. > >Re: > >> >> reprocussions > >> >> > >> >> Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general > >direction.....I > >> >first > >> >> used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt > >> >want to be > >> >> consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used > >cider > >> >vinegar.. > >> >> whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think > >for > >> >some > >> >> peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent > >batch > >> >I have > >> >> used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong > >> >co;;odial silver > >> >> Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the > >> >best bet is > >> >> to take it with something strong tasting and before > >food.....take a > >> >sip of > >> >> grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well > >> >swallowing and > >> >> pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold > >under > >> >tounge > >> >> then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont > >have > >> >snsitive > >> >> teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz > >my > >> >teeth > >> >> start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose > >bowel > >> >activity > >> >> initially but that settles down as your body gets used to > >it.....I > >> >was told > >> >> I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without > >> >radiation,masectomy,lymph node > >> >> sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never > >counting > >> >chickens > >> >> and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam > >> >> - > >> >> mary k > >> >> oleander soup > >> >> Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM > >> >> Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: > >> >> reprocussions > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had > >> >considerable > >> >> activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 > >teaspoon > >> >three > >> >> times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which > >lasts > >> >from one > >> >> dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made > >a > >> >quite > >> >> strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of > >others > >> >here in > >> >> Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in > >> >Australia > >> >> that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my > >> >sugar intake > >> >> to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple > >> >cider > >> >> vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. > >I > >> >am using > >> >> OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. > >> >> Mary K > >> >> > >> >> ---- > >> >> > >> >> Michael Goebel > >> >> 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM > >> >> oleander soup > >> >> Re: Oleander flowers > >> >> > >> >> I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, > >Mary. > >> >I just > >> >> wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to > >> >chop the > >> >> plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, > >> >the more > >> >> surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the > >better > >> >the > >> >> extraction into the water. > >> >> > >> >> Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with > >coffee > >> >filters > >> >> and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint- free > >> >paper towels > >> >> and filters. > >> >> > >> >> Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. > >You > >> >can try > >> >> many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the > >> >bakery > >> >> section of your store. Lemon works best for me. > >> >> > >> >> May God bless your efforts. > >> >> > >> >> Dr. Goebel > >> >> > >> >> Mary <maihards@> wrote: > >> >> Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or > >can > >> >the > >> >> flowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would > >like > >> >to > >> >> make some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't > >> >include > >> >> the flowers? > >> >> Mary Hards > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > >Mail. > >> >See how. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release > >Date: > >> >11/14/2007 > >> >> 4:54 PM > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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