Sutherlandia OPC versus Agaricus OPC

[Guest guest]

The agaricus folks are licensed by Marc to sell his formula. He

changed his formula to substitute the South Africa cancer bush

(Sutherlandia Frutescens) for the three rain forest botanicals that

Agaricus uses, and is currently doing a doctoral thesis on his

present formula against cancer and HIV. He reports that he has even

better results with his new formula.

 

Even though Marc and I both have high regards for the other

ingredients, we have both felt all along that it is primarily the

magical oleander that is responsible for the success of the OPC

formula.

 

I might add even though I have been offered quite a bit of money to

promote Agaricus, I refuse to do so because I have been frustrated

with their inefficiency and poor customer service, and I think that

all of the errors on their website is indicative of that. It is also

my understanding that they owe Marc a very substantial amount of

money.

 

Marc sells his product for less than one third the cost of the

Agaricus version including postage and it is available in both liquid

and capsule form ($99 for the liquid and $79 for the capsules). I

personally favor the liquid, but that is just my preference because

that is the form I am used to.

 

If you would like more information about the South Africa cancer

bush, go to http://www.sutherlandia.org

 

The South Africa government has been impressed enough to issue a

postage stamp in it's honor.

 

If you really feel strongly about the rain forest botanicals, you can

add them individually and still only end up paying a fraction of the

cost.

 

As for myself, I would choose the Sutherlandia OPC if I had cancer

and would add many of the other elements such as colloidal silver and

gold and the Inositol/IP6 listed in my suggested natural protocol for

beating cancer, which can be found in this post in my CureZone forum:

 

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1046280#i

 

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

 

 

 

oleander soup , " rockjacks50 " <jg.hlss

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

> I have just joined this group and would like to start using the OPC

> extract etc. I have ovarian and breast cancer and to date have had

no

> medical intervention, diagnosed early Oct this year.

>

> I'm wondering which would be the most suitable products for me. I

have

> looked at Agaricusnet's products, namely the OPC Extract and the

RAAX11

> but note that Tony Isaacs does not really recommend them and

prefers

> the product by Marc Swanepoel. Does Marc's product contain the

> mushroom extracts as I have been told that they are very effective

> against female cancers especially ovarian.

>

> Can you pls tell me where I can purchase Marc's product?

>

> Thanking you all and God Bless

> Adriana

>

[Guest guest]

Tony,

I have disconnected for awhile, healing from Cancer surgury. Please send me Marc's website as I would like to try it as a follow on self treatment as I did not need chemo or radation.

But my immune system was compromised when my spleen was taken out.

Thanks

Bill Wilkins

w.wilkins

 

 

-

Tony

oleander soup

Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:57 PM

Sutherlandia OPC versus Agaricus OPC

 

 

The agaricus folks are licensed by Marc to sell his formula. He changed his formula to substitute the South Africa cancer bush (Sutherlandia Frutescens) for the three rain forest botanicals that Agaricus uses, and is currently doing a doctoral thesis on his present formula against cancer and HIV. He reports that he has even better results with his new formula.Even though Marc and I both have high regards for the other ingredients, we have both felt all along that it is primarily the magical oleander that is responsible for the success of the OPC formula.I might add even though I have been offered quite a bit of money to promote Agaricus, I refuse to do so because I have been frustrated with their inefficiency and poor customer service, and I think that all of the errors on their website is indicative of that. It is also my understanding that they owe Marc a very substantial amount of money.Marc sells his product for less than one third the cost of the Agaricus version including postage and it is available in both liquid and capsule form ($99 for the liquid and $79 for the capsules). I personally favor the liquid, but that is just my preference because that is the form I am used to.If you would like more information about the South Africa cancer bush, go to http://www.sutherlandia.orgThe South Africa government has been impressed enough to issue a postage stamp in it's honor.If you really feel strongly about the rain forest botanicals, you can add them individually and still only end up paying a fraction of the cost.As for myself, I would choose the Sutherlandia OPC if I had cancer and would add many of the other elements such as colloidal silver and gold and the Inositol/IP6 listed in my suggested natural protocol for beating cancer, which can be found in this post in my CureZone forum:http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1046280#iLive long, live healthy, live happy!Tonyoleander soup , "rockjacks50" <jg.hlss wrote:>> Hi everyone, > I have just joined this group and would like to start using the OPC > extract etc. I have ovarian and breast cancer and to date have had no > medical intervention, diagnosed early Oct this year. > > I'm wondering which would be the most suitable products for me. I have > looked at Agaricusnet's products, namely the OPC Extract and the RAAX11 > but note that Tony Isaacs does not really recommend them and prefers > the product by Marc Swanepoel. Does Marc's product contain the > mushroom extracts as I have been told that they are very effective > against female cancers especially ovarian.> > Can you pls tell me where I can purchase Marc's product?> > Thanking you all and God Bless> Adriana>

[Guest guest]

-Dear Tony,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

I have decided to go with the sutherlandia OPC but not sure where to

actually purchase it from - can you pls advise.

 

I too would prefer the liquid formula. How long will one bottle last?

 

Thanks too for the curezone post. I am currently taking several

other supplements ie essiac and ellagic acid and have been on the

flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture for the past 7 weeks and have

experienced nausea and loss of appetite so I cant see myself doing

Budwig long term.

 

Again, many thanks

Adriana

 

 

 

> The agaricus folks are licensed by Marc to sell his formula. He

> changed his formula to substitute the South Africa cancer bush

> (Sutherlandia Frutescens) for the three rain forest botanicals that

> Agaricus uses, and is currently doing a doctoral thesis on his

> present formula against cancer and HIV. He reports that he has

even

> better results with his new formula.

>

> Even though Marc and I both have high regards for the other

> ingredients, we have both felt all along that it is primarily the

> magical oleander that is responsible for the success of the OPC

> formula.

>

> I might add even though I have been offered quite a bit of money to

> promote Agaricus, I refuse to do so because I have been frustrated

> with their inefficiency and poor customer service, and I think that

> all of the errors on their website is indicative of that. It is

also

> my understanding that they owe Marc a very substantial amount of

> money.

>

> Marc sells his product for less than one third the cost of the

> Agaricus version including postage and it is available in both

liquid

> and capsule form ($99 for the liquid and $79 for the capsules). I

> personally favor the liquid, but that is just my preference because

> that is the form I am used to.

>

> If you would like more information about the South Africa cancer

> bush, go to http://www.sutherlandia.org

>

> The South Africa government has been impressed enough to issue a

> postage stamp in it's honor.

>

> If you really feel strongly about the rain forest botanicals, you

can

> add them individually and still only end up paying a fraction of

the

> cost.

>

> As for myself, I would choose the Sutherlandia OPC if I had cancer

> and would add many of the other elements such as colloidal silver

and

> gold and the Inositol/IP6 listed in my suggested natural protocol

for

> beating cancer, which can be found in this post in my CureZone

forum:

>

> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1046280#i

>

> Live long, live healthy, live happy!

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Look two posts up from yours - lol.

 

OK, OK, http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com

 

Good to hear from you again!

 

Did you know that Bromelain speeds healing up to 4 times as as

normal healing?

 

See this article I compiled:

 

Bromelain - The Wonder Supplement /bromelain.htm

 

And as a reminder to you and all the members here, if you happen to

order Bromelain or any other supplement from Utopia Silver off my

website, you can put in the code LR001 and get a 15% discount for any

item not on sale.

 

I normally do not promote Utopia Silver or much of anything else,

even my own books (I do recommend the OPC frequently because I have

very high regards for Marc and of course oleander), but that discount

code was first given to me for members of this group after I asked my

friend Ben Taylor to give us one.

 

You can find a pretty complete list of their products at

/Supplements.htm

 

 

oleander soup , " bill Wilkins " <w.wilkins

wrote:

>

> Tony,

> I have disconnected for awhile, healing from Cancer surgury. Please

send me Marc's website as I would like to try it as a follow on self

treatment as I did not need chemo or radation.

> But my immune system was compromised when my spleen was taken out.

> Thanks

> Bill Wilkins

> w.wilkins

>

> -

> > oleander soup

> Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:57 PM

> Sutherlandia OPC versus Agaricus OPC

>

>

> The agaricus folks are licensed by Marc to sell his formula. He

> changed his formula to substitute the South Africa cancer bush

> (Sutherlandia Frutescens) for the three rain forest botanicals

that

> Agaricus uses, and is currently doing a doctoral thesis on his

> present formula against cancer and HIV. He reports that he has

even

> better results with his new formula.

>

> Even though Marc and I both have high regards for the other

> ingredients, we have both felt all along that it is primarily the

> magical oleander that is responsible for the success of the OPC

> formula.

>

> I might add even though I have been offered quite a bit of money

to

> promote Agaricus, I refuse to do so because I have been

frustrated

> with their inefficiency and poor customer service, and I think

that

> all of the errors on their website is indicative of that. It is

also

> my understanding that they owe Marc a very substantial amount of

> money.

>

> Marc sells his product for less than one third the cost of the

> Agaricus version including postage and it is available in both

liquid

> and capsule form ($99 for the liquid and $79 for the capsules). I

> personally favor the liquid, but that is just my preference

because

> that is the form I am used to.

>

> If you would like more information about the South Africa cancer

> bush, go to http://www.sutherlandia.org

>

> The South Africa government has been impressed enough to issue a

> postage stamp in it's honor.

>

> If you really feel strongly about the rain forest botanicals, you

can

> add them individually and still only end up paying a fraction of

the

> cost.

>

> As for myself, I would choose the Sutherlandia OPC if I had

cancer

> and would add many of the other elements such as colloidal silver

and

> gold and the Inositol/IP6 listed in my suggested natural protocol

for

> beating cancer, which can be found in this post in my CureZone

forum:

>

> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1046280#i

>

> Live long, live healthy, live happy!

>

> >

> oleander soup , " rockjacks50 " <jg.hlss@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > I have just joined this group and would like to start using the

OPC

> > extract etc. I have ovarian and breast cancer and to date have

had

> no

> > medical intervention, diagnosed early Oct this year.

> >

> > I'm wondering which would be the most suitable products for me.

I

> have

> > looked at Agaricusnet's products, namely the OPC Extract and

the

> RAAX11

> > but note that Tony Isaacs does not really recommend them and

> prefers

> > the product by Marc Swanepoel. Does Marc's product contain the

> > mushroom extracts as I have been told that they are very

effective

> > against female cancers especially ovarian.

> >

> > Can you pls tell me where I can purchase Marc's product?

> >

> > Thanking you all and God Bless

> > Adriana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think I have entered Ground Hog Day this evening - lol. Just

joking, but this will make the third post of that info in the last 4

I have made I think.

 

http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com is the website where you can order

 

One bottle lasts for about a month.

 

Once your cancer is defeated, you can continue maintenance doses of

about 1/3 as much or less and so a bottle will last much longer.

 

I am just joking about making the same posts - if I can help someone,

I will post information over and over as long as it takes.

 

BTW, regarding the Budwig diet - I think it is an excellent one and

goes well with OS. You may be feeling the Herxheimer effect, where

you are actually healing, but you first feel worse before you feel

better. That is especially common in cancer treatments from all the

toxins being released by the dying cancer cells.

 

I would suggest you try to stick with it as best you can and see if

things do not improve after you add the OPC for awhile. Both

oleander and the Sutherlandia Frutescens should help you feel better

and have a better appetite.

 

Please keep us informed on how everything goes!

 

 

 

 

 

oleander soup , " rockjacks50 " <jg.hlss

wrote:

>

> -Dear Tony,

>

> Thanks for your reply.

>

> I have decided to go with the sutherlandia OPC but not sure where

to

> actually purchase it from - can you pls advise.

>

> I too would prefer the liquid formula. How long will one bottle

last?

>

> Thanks too for the curezone post. I am currently taking several

> other supplements ie essiac and ellagic acid and have been on the

> flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture for the past 7 weeks and have

> experienced nausea and loss of appetite so I cant see myself doing

> Budwig long term.

>

> Again, many thanks

> Adriana

>

>

>

> > The agaricus folks are licensed by Marc to sell his formula. He

> > changed his formula to substitute the South Africa cancer bush

> > (Sutherlandia Frutescens) for the three rain forest botanicals

that

> > Agaricus uses, and is currently doing a doctoral thesis on his

> > present formula against cancer and HIV. He reports that he has

> even

> > better results with his new formula.

> >

> > Even though Marc and I both have high regards for the other

> > ingredients, we have both felt all along that it is primarily the

> > magical oleander that is responsible for the success of the OPC

> > formula.

> >

> > I might add even though I have been offered quite a bit of money

to

> > promote Agaricus, I refuse to do so because I have been

frustrated

> > with their inefficiency and poor customer service, and I think

that

> > all of the errors on their website is indicative of that. It is

> also

> > my understanding that they owe Marc a very substantial amount of

> > money.

> >

> > Marc sells his product for less than one third the cost of the

> > Agaricus version including postage and it is available in both

> liquid

> > and capsule form ($99 for the liquid and $79 for the capsules).

I

> > personally favor the liquid, but that is just my preference

because

> > that is the form I am used to.

> >

> > If you would like more information about the South Africa cancer

> > bush, go to http://www.sutherlandia.org

> >

> > The South Africa government has been impressed enough to issue a

> > postage stamp in it's honor.

> >

> > If you really feel strongly about the rain forest botanicals, you

> can

> > add them individually and still only end up paying a fraction of

> the

> > cost.

> >

> > As for myself, I would choose the Sutherlandia OPC if I had

cancer

> > and would add many of the other elements such as colloidal silver

> and

> > gold and the Inositol/IP6 listed in my suggested natural protocol

> for

> > beating cancer, which can be found in this post in my CureZone

> forum:

> >

> > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1046280#i

> >

> > Live long, live healthy, live happy!

> >

> > > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the post Tony and it is encouraging to hear your view on

the Budwig protocol. I am trying to hit this thing with as many

things that I can or should I say that my bank balance will allow me

to!!!.

 

I'm wondering if you are familiar with Balm of Gilead or Compound X

also known as Black Salve. Ingredients are Zinc Chloride, Galangal

Root Powder and Blood Root Powder. Apparently it is taken

internally in 20 day cycles with 5 days break for a total of 4

cycles (80 days in total).

 

It is something else I'm looking into but would like to know more if

possible.

 

Regards

Adriana

 

In oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> I think I have entered Ground Hog Day this evening - lol. Just

> joking, but this will make the third post of that info in the last

4

> I have made I think.

>

> http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com is the website where you can order

>

> One bottle lasts for about a month.

>

> Once your cancer is defeated, you can continue maintenance doses of

> about 1/3 as much or less and so a bottle will last much longer.

>

> I am just joking about making the same posts - if I can help

someone,

> I will post information over and over as long as it takes.

>

> BTW, regarding the Budwig diet - I think it is an excellent one and

> goes well with OS. You may be feeling the Herxheimer effect, where

> you are actually healing, but you first feel worse before you feel

> better. That is especially common in cancer treatments from all

the

> toxins being released by the dying cancer cells.

>

> I would suggest you try to stick with it as best you can and see if

> things do not improve after you add the OPC for awhile. Both

> oleander and the Sutherlandia Frutescens should help you feel

better

> and have a better appetite.

>

> Please keep us informed on how everything goes!

>

>

> >

>

>

>