The source for Sutherlandia OPC oleander supplement

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Mary,

 

Marc is a longtime member of this group and I know him from before

this group was started due to his work with oleander modeled after

the home remedy version of the original Ozel patented medicine

Anvirzel.

 

Marc's website address is http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com

 

and it should provide a link to contact him privately if you wish (if

not, I will be happy to furnish you his email address privately).

 

The dietary supplement version, like the home remedy itself, is not

suitable for injection. Only the patented medicine Anvirzel is, and

it costs $2700 for a three month supply. However, it is my opinion

that it is virtually identical to the home remedy and oleander

portion of the supplement, and it is usually taken orally now.

 

The injections can be rather painful around the injection site.

 

 

oleander soup , maihards wrote:

>

>

> Ok Tony, I stoped taking it on Sunday after reading your emails.

How do

> I contact Marc in South Africa for the OPC? I looked for an organic

nursery

> in the sydney area. The search engine came up with none. How can I

obtain

> the patented oleander product? Does it come in an oral preperation

as well

> as an IV infusion? I have a doctor that will administer it in his

office.

> Thank you so much for your help and input. God is faithful. By His

grace

> He has led me thus far. He will continue to lead me. Praise Him.

> Blessings,

> Mary K

>

>

> Original Message --

> >oleander soup

> > " Tony "

> >Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:37:05 -0000

> > Mary, get rid of that soup!

> >oleander soup

> >

> >

> >Mary, if you have tingling and chapped lips when you touch

the " soup "

> >to your lips, ditch the " soup " ! Additional filtering will not

help.

> >

> >Although I would not recommend it, some people have taken oleander

> >plants from commercial nurseries and watered them, as well as

washed

> >them, for at least a couple of weeks, helping leach the pesticides

> >from the soil and allowing them to break down and pass through the

> >plants, as well as be washed off the plants.

> >

> >If it were myself, I would only use commercial plants that I had

> >grown at home for an entire year without pesticides.

> >

> >Actually, as it is now, I get my " soup " from one of the most

> >experienced " soup " makers in the country, if not the world. Even

so,

> >if I had cancer I believe that I would also get the Sutherlandia

OPC

> >supplement form from Marc in South Africa.

> >

> >> >

> >

> >oleander soup , " mary k " <maihards@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Hi Pam,

> >>

> >> Thank you for responding.

> >> My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is

pesticides

> >could be

> >> the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth,

> >lips and

> >> tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will

make

> >a new

> >> batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going

to

> >Auckland

> >> tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt

> >Eden. I

> >> would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9

631

> >7372.

> >> They operate a business from home so will have the business

> >greeting on the

> >> answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to

> >whom I am

> >> speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear

from

> >you. I

> >> have not had any conventional/traditional medical intervention

> >apart from a

> >> biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a

> >believer

> >> and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past

> >14months. God is

> >> my refuge and strength.

> >>

> >> Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you.

> >>

> >> Mary K

> >> ----

> >>

> >> Pam Griffin

> >> 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM

> >> oleander soup

> >> Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here.

Re:

> >> reprocussions

> >>

> >> Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general

direction.....I

> >first

> >> used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt

> >want to be

> >> consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used

cider

> >vinegar..

> >> whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think

for

> >some

> >> peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent

batch

> >I have

> >> used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong

> >co;;odial silver

> >> Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the

> >best bet is

> >> to take it with something strong tasting and before

food.....take a

> >sip of

> >> grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well

> >swallowing and

> >> pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold

under

> >tounge

> >> then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont

have

> >snsitive

> >> teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz

my

> >teeth

> >> start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose

bowel

> >activity

> >> initially but that settles down as your body gets used to

it.....I

> >was told

> >> I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without

> >radiation,masectomy,lymph node

> >> sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never

counting

> >chickens

> >> and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam

> >> -

> >> mary k

> >> oleander soup

> >> Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM

> >> Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re:

> >> reprocussions

> >>

> >>

> >> I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had

> >considerable

> >> activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2

teaspoon

> >three

> >> times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which

lasts

> >from one

> >> dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made

a

> >quite

> >> strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of

others

> >here in

> >> Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in

> >Australia

> >> that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my

> >sugar intake

> >> to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple

> >cider

> >> vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help.

I

> >am using

> >> OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer.

> >> Mary K

> >>

> >> ----

> >>

> >> Michael Goebel

> >> 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM

> >> oleander soup

> >> Re: Oleander flowers

> >>

> >> I have always used every part of the plant except the roots,

Mary.

> >I just

> >> wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to

> >chop the

> >> plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it,

> >the more

> >> surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the

better

> >the

> >> extraction into the water.

> >>

> >> Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with

coffee

> >filters

> >> and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free

> >paper towels

> >> and filters.

> >>

> >> Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup.

You

> >can try

> >> many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the

> >bakery

> >> section of your store. Lemon works best for me.

> >>

> >> May God bless your efforts.

> >>

> >> Dr. Goebel

> >>

> >> Mary <maihards@> wrote:

> >> Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or

can

> >the

> >> flowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would

like

> >to

> >> make some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't

> >include

> >> the flowers?

> >> Mary Hards

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside

Mail.

> >See how.

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >11/14/2007

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