Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Mary, if you have tingling and chapped lips when you touch the " soup " to your lips, ditch the " soup " ! Additional filtering will not help. Although I would not recommend it, some people have taken oleander plants from commercial nurseries and watered them, as well as washed them, for at least a couple of weeks, helping leach the pesticides from the soil and allowing them to break down and pass through the plants, as well as be washed off the plants. If it were myself, I would only use commercial plants that I had grown at home for an entire year without pesticides. Actually, as it is now, I get my " soup " from one of the most experienced " soup " makers in the country, if not the world. Even so, if I had cancer I believe that I would also get the Sutherlandia OPC supplement form from Marc in South Africa. oleander soup , " mary k " <maihards wrote: > > Hi Pam, > > Thank you for responding. > My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is pesticides could be > the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth, lips and > tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will make a new > batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going to Auckland > tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt Eden. I > would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9 631 7372. > They operate a business from home so will have the business greeting on the > answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to whom I am > speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear from you. I > have not had any conventional/traditional medical intervention apart from a > biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a believer > and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past 14months. God is > my refuge and strength. > > Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you. > > Mary K > ---- > > Pam Griffin > 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM > oleander soup > Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: > reprocussions > > Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general direction.....I first > used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt want to be > consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used cider vinegar.. > whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think for some > peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent batch I have > used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong co;;odial silver > Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the best bet is > to take it with something strong tasting and before food.....take a sip of > grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well swallowing and > pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold under tounge > then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont have snsitive > teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz my teeth > start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose bowel activity > initially but that settles down as your body gets used to it.....I was told > I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without radiation,masectomy,lymph node > sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never counting chickens > and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam > - > mary k > oleander soup > Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM > Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: > reprocussions > > > I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable > activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three > times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one > dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite > strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in > Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia > that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake > to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider > vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using > OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. > Mary K > > ---- > > Michael Goebel > 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM > oleander soup > Re: Oleander flowers > > I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just > wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the > plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more > surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the > extraction into the water. > > Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters > and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels > and filters. > > Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try > many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery > section of your store. Lemon works best for me. > > May God bless your efforts. > > Dr. Goebel > > Mary <maihards wrote: > Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can the > flowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like to > make some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't include > the flowers? > Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 11/14/2007 > 4:54 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 I would feel comfortable with a plant after 2 or 3 months out in the sun, fresh air, and lots of water. A lot of full sunlight helps to more quickly break down the pesticides. Hopefully no civil country is using DDT or DET. So all are the water soluble variety that usually break down in 2 to 10 days. I would still wait 2 or 3 months on a plant that I had not known before.Dr. GoebelTony wrote: Mary, if you have tingling and chapped lips when you touch the "soup" to your lips, ditch the "soup"! Additional filtering will not help. Although I would not recommend it, some people have taken oleander plants from commercial nurseries and watered them, as well as washed them, for at least a couple of weeks, helping leach the pesticides from the soil and allowing them to break down and pass through the plants, as well as be washed off the plants. If it were myself, I would only use commercial plants that I had grown at home for an entire year without pesticides. Actually, as it is now, I get my "soup" from one of the most experienced "soup" makers in the country, if not the world. Even so, if I had cancer I believe that I would also get the Sutherlandia OPC supplement form from Marc in South Africa. Tony oleander soup , "mary k" <maihards wrote: > > Hi Pam, > > Thank you for responding. > My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is pesticides could be > the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth, lips and > tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will make a new > batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going to Auckland > tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt Eden. I > would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9 631 7372. > They operate a business from home so will have the business greeting on the > answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to whom I am > speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear from you. I > have not had any conventional/traditional medical intervention apart from a > biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a believer > and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past 14months. God is > my refuge and strength. > > Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you. > > Mary K > ---- > > Pam Griffin > 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM > oleander soup > Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: > reprocussions > > Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general direction.....I first > used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt want to be > consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used cider vinegar.. > whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think for some > peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent batch I have > used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong co;;odial silver > Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the best bet is > to take it with something strong tasting and before food.....take a sip of > grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well swallowing and > pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold under tounge > then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont have snsitive > teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz my teeth > start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose bowel activity > initially but that settles down as your body gets used to it.....I was told > I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without radiation,masectomy,lymph node > sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never counting chickens > and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam > - > mary k > oleander soup > Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM > Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: > reprocussions > > > I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable > activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three > times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one > dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite > strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in > Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia > that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake > to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider > vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using > OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. > Mary K > > ---- > > Michael Goebel > 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM > oleander soup > Re: Oleander flowers > > I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just > wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the > plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more > surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the > extraction into the water. > > Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters > and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels > and filters. > > Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try > many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery > section of your store. Lemon works best for me. > > May God bless your efforts. > > Dr. Goebel > > Mary <maihards wrote: > Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can the > flowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like to > make some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't include > the flowers? > Mary Hards > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release 11/14/2007 > 4:54 PM > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Ok Tony, I stoped taking it on Sunday after reading your emails. How do I contact Marc in South Africa for the OPC? I looked for an organic nursery in the sydney area. The search engine came up with none. How can I obtain the patented oleander product? Does it come in an oral preperation as well as an IV infusion? I have a doctor that will administer it in his office. Thank you so much for your help and input. God is faithful. By His grace He has led me thus far. He will continue to lead me. Praise Him. Blessings, Mary K Original Message -- >oleander soup > " Tony " >Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:37:05 -0000 > Mary, get rid of that soup! >oleander soup > > >Mary, if you have tingling and chapped lips when you touch the " soup " >to your lips, ditch the " soup " ! Additional filtering will not help. > >Although I would not recommend it, some people have taken oleander >plants from commercial nurseries and watered them, as well as washed >them, for at least a couple of weeks, helping leach the pesticides >from the soil and allowing them to break down and pass through the >plants, as well as be washed off the plants. > >If it were myself, I would only use commercial plants that I had >grown at home for an entire year without pesticides. > >Actually, as it is now, I get my " soup " from one of the most >experienced " soup " makers in the country, if not the world. Even so, >if I had cancer I believe that I would also get the Sutherlandia OPC >supplement form from Marc in South Africa. > >> > >oleander soup , " mary k " <maihards wrote: >> >> Hi Pam, >> >> Thank you for responding. >> My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is pesticides >could be >> the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth, >lips and >> tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will make >a new >> batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going to >Auckland >> tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt >Eden. I >> would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9 631 >7372. >> They operate a business from home so will have the business >greeting on the >> answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to >whom I am >> speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear from >you. I >> have not had any conventional/traditional medical intervention >apart from a >> biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a >believer >> and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past >14months. God is >> my refuge and strength. >> >> Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you. >> >> Mary K >> ---- >> >> Pam Griffin >> 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM >> oleander soup >> Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: >> reprocussions >> >> Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general direction.....I >first >> used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt >want to be >> consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used cider >vinegar.. >> whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think for >some >> peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent batch >I have >> used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong >co;;odial silver >> Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the >best bet is >> to take it with something strong tasting and before food.....take a >sip of >> grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well >swallowing and >> pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold under >tounge >> then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont have >snsitive >> teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz my >teeth >> start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose bowel >activity >> initially but that settles down as your body gets used to it.....I >was told >> I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without >radiation,masectomy,lymph node >> sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never counting >chickens >> and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam >> - >> mary k >> oleander soup >> Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM >> Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: >> reprocussions >> >> >> I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had >considerable >> activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon >three >> times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts >from one >> dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a >quite >> strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others >here in >> Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in >Australia >> that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my >sugar intake >> to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple >cider >> vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I >am using >> OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. >> Mary K >> >> ---- >> >> Michael Goebel >> 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM >> oleander soup >> Re: Oleander flowers >> >> I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. >I just >> wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to >chop the >> plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, >the more >> surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better >the >> extraction into the water. >> >> Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee >filters >> and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free >paper towels >> and filters. >> >> Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You >can try >> many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the >bakery >> section of your store. Lemon works best for me. >> >> May God bless your efforts. >> >> Dr. Goebel >> >> Mary <maihards wrote: >> Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can >the >> flowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like >to >> make some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't >include >> the flowers? >> Mary Hards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. >See how. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: >11/14/2007 >> 4:54 PM >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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