Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi Robert,beta-sitosterol is a great remedy for stopping and reversing prostate enlargement. I also use an herbal blend called "Prosper". Both are available from Beyond a Century, and beta-sitosterol and other herbal blends are available from other supplement distributors. I did lower my PSA from 4.3 to 3.1 in less than 3 months.Dr. Goebel May <luellamay129 wrote: Robert, thank you for sharing your experience with us. I will keep you in prayer during your healing. Please keep us posted as to how you are doing. Hugs, oleander soup , robert-blau wrote: > > As some of you may know, I recently took a trip to Ireland for > eight days. It was fabulous. However, on the way home, near the > beginning of what, with stopover and delays, turned out to be a 10+ hour > flight, I happened to develop a urinary tract obstruction -- Apparently, > some age-related prostate enlargement had been sneaking up on me, plus > there may have been some prostatitis from all the sitting around and > retaining on the bus tour (as well as the relatively small but > uncharacteristic amount of alcohol consumed on the trip), and it appears > that some minor urinary tract infection may have caused a small blood > clot that blocked the passageway from the bladder. > By the time I managed to get to the ER in Chicago, it had been > about 12 hours since I had been able to go to the bathroom. An > interesting experience. Anyway, they catheterized me, which solved the > immediate problem, and I went around with a tube sticking out of me and > a bag strapped to my leg for several days (an interesting experience) > until my followup appointment with the urologist. His assessment was > that the prostate enlargement was the critical factor, and wanted to put > me on drugs for it. He seemed displeased (and a bit nonplussed) when I > declined. > > �����I just couldn't live with myself on drugs; it would > violate my Sacred Covenant with nature, not to mention the Hippocratic > Oath ("First do no harm"). > > I started myself on a regimen of remedies which I had on hand: A > saw palmetto/phytosterol complex from lef.org for the prostate, plus > vitamin C, cranberry juice, grapefruit seed extract, and probiotics for > any urinary tract issues -- and things are improving. > > Also, I emailed a friend, who just happens to be a holistic MD (a > good friend to have); his recommendations, which may be of interest, are > as follows: > > ������"My recommendation is to take New Chapter's Prostate > 5LX one, twice daily to shrink the tissues and alleviate the symptoms. I > would also start New Chapter's Zyflamend one, two to three times daily. > Zyflamend is currently in phase two trials at Columbia [univ.] in NY for > the reversal of early prostate cancer. In phase one, it had about an 80% > success rate of early reversal used alone at a tid dosage. It works by a > different mechanism that 5LX to reduce the inflammatory component of all > cancers. Our research at MD Anderson experimental cancer clinic show it > to be 500 times more active in down regulating NFKappaB (the mother > switch of all inflammation) than any known pharmaceutical. Amazing > stuff. Once you are on both products, I doubt you will have additional > problems. Should you ever need more focused advice I would contact Aaron > Katz MD, lead researcher and director of the Columbia Holistic Urology > clinic." [see: > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & ie=ISO-8859- 1 & q=aaron+katz+columbia+holistic+urology+clinic > and http://new-chapter.com ] > > �����I plan to follow those recommendations; I may add an > Ayurvedic formula (Prostate Protection) from mapi.com. If anyone has any > other suggestions, I would certainly be interested to hear them. > > �����I feel that my experience has been a gift: an opportunity > to see how well I could do in a difficult situation, as well as, I > believe, a reminder from nature to slow down and be more mindful, and to > better appreciate my normal level of functioning (which is generally > rather good for someone whose birthdate falls in 1946, or, for that > matter, in ANY year). Also, it provided an opportunity to get to know my > body better, and to experience the medical field first hand, something I > hadn't done in a while. I was struck by the competency and caring of > everyone I came into contact with. But, at the end of the day, they only > know what they know, and, when choices are to be made, one can not > delegate the responsibility. > > So how was your week? > > B > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 I also had good luck with beta-sistosterol and I went from having to get up at night 2 or 3 times to sleeping the whole night through with no problems. One word of caution though. I took a large dose for a while and even after my postate cleared I kept taking the same dose. I should have back off after the problem cleared because beta- sistoerol also lowers cholesterol and mine went from 180 down to 140 which is too low. Very low cholesterol levels may increase your chances of stroke according to some things I read. I now only take one pill a day rather than the 2 twice a day that I took originally. Prostate is still fine and so is cholesterol. Jackdaw oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > Hi Robert, > beta-sitosterol is a great remedy for stopping and reversing prostate enlargement. I also use an herbal blend called " Prosper " . Both are available from Beyond a Century, and beta-sitosterol and other herbal blends are available from other supplement distributors. I did lower my PSA from 4.3 to 3.1 in less than 3 months. > > Dr. Goebel > > May <luellamay129 wrote: Robert, thank you for sharing your experience with us. I will keep > you in prayer during your healing. Please keep us posted as to how > you are doing. > > Hugs, > > > oleander soup , robert-blau@ wrote: > > > > As some of you may know, I recently took a trip to Ireland for > > eight days. It was fabulous. However, on the way home, near the > > beginning of what, with stopover and delays, turned out to be a 10+ > hour > > flight, I happened to develop a urinary tract obstruction -- > Apparently, > > some age-related prostate enlargement had been sneaking up on me, > plus > > there may have been some prostatitis from all the sitting around and > > retaining on the bus tour (as well as the relatively small but > > uncharacteristic amount of alcohol consumed on the trip), and it > appears > > that some minor urinary tract infection may have caused a small > blood > > clot that blocked the passageway from the bladder. > > By the time I managed to get to the ER in Chicago, it had been > > about 12 hours since I had been able to go to the bathroom. An > > interesting experience. Anyway, they catheterized me, which solved > the > > immediate problem, and I went around with a tube sticking out of me > and > > a bag strapped to my leg for several days (an interesting > experience) > > until my followup appointment with the urologist. His assessment was > > that the prostate enlargement was the critical factor, and wanted > to put > > me on drugs for it. He seemed displeased (and a bit nonplussed) > when I > > declined. > > > > �����I just couldn't live with myself on drugs; it would > > violate my Sacred Covenant with nature, not to mention the > Hippocratic > > Oath ( " First do no harm " ). > > > > I started myself on a regimen of remedies which I had on hand: > A > > saw palmetto/phytosterol complex from lef.org for the prostate, plus > > vitamin C, cranberry juice, grapefruit seed extract, and probiotics > for > > any urinary tract issues -- and things are improving. > > > > Also, I emailed a friend, who just happens to be a holistic MD > (a > > good friend to have); his recommendations, which may be of > interest, are > > as follows: > > > > ������ " My recommendation is to take New Chapter's Prostate > > 5LX one, twice daily to shrink the tissues and alleviate the > symptoms. I > > would also start New Chapter's Zyflamend one, two to three times > daily. > > Zyflamend is currently in phase two trials at Columbia [univ.] in > NY for > > the reversal of early prostate cancer. In phase one, it had about > an 80% > > success rate of early reversal used alone at a tid dosage. It works > by a > > different mechanism that 5LX to reduce the inflammatory component > of all > > cancers. Our research at MD Anderson experimental cancer clinic > show it > > to be 500 times more active in down regulating NFKappaB (the mother > > switch of all inflammation) than any known pharmaceutical. Amazing > > stuff. Once you are on both products, I doubt you will have > additional > > problems. Should you ever need more focused advice I would contact > Aaron > > Katz MD, lead researcher and director of the Columbia Holistic > Urology > > clinic. " [see: > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & ie=ISO-8859- > 1 & q=aaron+katz+columbia+holistic+urology+clinic > > and http://new-chapter.com ] > > > > �����I plan to follow those recommendations; I may add an > > Ayurvedic formula (Prostate Protection) from mapi.com. If anyone > has any > > other suggestions, I would certainly be interested to hear them. > > > > �����I feel that my experience has been a gift: an opportunity > > to see how well I could do in a difficult situation, as well as, I > > believe, a reminder from nature to slow down and be more mindful, > and to > > better appreciate my normal level of functioning (which is generally > > rather good for someone whose birthdate falls in 1946, or, for that > > matter, in ANY year). Also, it provided an opportunity to get to > know my > > body better, and to experience the medical field first hand, > something I > > hadn't done in a while. I was struck by the competency and caring of > > everyone I came into contact with. But, at the end of the day, they > only > > know what they know, and, when choices are to be made, one can not > > delegate the responsibility. > > > > So how was your week? > > > > B > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Sounds good, thanks. Posted by: " jackdaw123 " jackdaw123 jackdaw123 Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:18 am (PST) I also had good luck with beta-sistosterol and I went from having to get up at night 2 or 3 times to sleeping the whole night through with no problems. One word of caution though. I took a large dose for a while and even after my postate cleared I kept taking the same dose. I should have back off after the problem cleared because beta- sistoerol also lowers cholesterol and mine went from 180 down to 140 which is too low. Very low cholesterol levels may increase your chances of stroke according to some things I read. I now only take one pill a day rather than the 2 twice a day that I took originally. Prostate is still fine and so is cholesterol. Jackdaw oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > Hi Robert, > beta-sitosterol is a great remedy for stopping and reversing prostate enlargement. I also use an herbal blend called " Prosper " . Both are available from Beyond a Century, and beta-sitosterol and other herbal blends are available from other supplement distributors. I did lower my PSA from 4.3 to 3.1 in less than 3 months. > > Dr. Goebel > > May <luellamay129 wrote: Robert, thank you for sharing your experience with us. I will keep > you in prayer during your healing. Please keep us posted as to how > you are doing. > > Hugs, > > > oleander soup , robert-blau@ wrote: > > > > As some of you may know, I recently took a trip to Ireland for > > eight days. It was fabulous. However, on the way home, near the > > beginning of what, with stopover and delays, turned out to be a 10+ > hour > > flight, I happened to develop a urinary tract obstruction -- > Apparently, > > some age-related prostate enlargement had been sneaking up on me, > plus > > there may have been some prostatitis from all the sitting around and > > retaining on the bus tour (as well as the relatively small but > > uncharacteristic amount of alcohol consumed on the trip), and it > appears > > that some minor urinary tract infection may have caused a small > blood > > clot that blocked the passageway from the bladder. > > By the time I managed to get to the ER in Chicago, it had been > > about 12 hours since I had been able to go to the bathroom. An > > interesting experience. Anyway, they catheterized me, which solved > the > > immediate problem, and I went around with a tube sticking out of me > and > > a bag strapped to my leg for several days (an interesting > experience) > > until my followup appointment with the urologist. His assessment was > > that the prostate enlargement was the critical factor, and wanted > to put > > me on drugs for it. He seemed displeased (and a bit nonplussed) > when I > > declined. > > > > �����I just couldn't live with myself on drugs; it would > > violate my Sacred Covenant with nature, not to mention the > Hippocratic > > Oath ( " First do no harm " ). > > > > I started myself on a regimen of remedies which I had on hand: > A > > saw palmetto/phytosterol complex from lef.org for the prostate, plus > > vitamin C, cranberry juice, grapefruit seed extract, and probiotics > for > > any urinary tract issues -- and things are improving. > > > > Also, I emailed a friend, who just happens to be a holistic MD > (a > > good friend to have); his recommendations, which may be of > interest, are > > as follows: > > > > ������ " My recommendation is to take New Chapter's Prostate > > 5LX one, twice daily to shrink the tissues and alleviate the > symptoms. I > > would also start New Chapter's Zyflamend one, two to three times > daily. > > Zyflamend is currently in phase two trials at Columbia [univ.] in > NY for > > the reversal of early prostate cancer. In phase one, it had about > an 80% > > success rate of early reversal used alone at a tid dosage. It works > by a > > different mechanism that 5LX to reduce the inflammatory component > of all > > cancers. Our research at MD Anderson experimental cancer clinic > show it > > to be 500 times more active in down regulating NFKappaB (the mother > > switch of all inflammation) than any known pharmaceutical. Amazing > > stuff. Once you are on both products, I doubt you will have > additional > > problems. Should you ever need more focused advice I would contact > Aaron > > Katz MD, lead researcher and director of the Columbia Holistic > Urology > > clinic. " [see: > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & ie=ISO-8859- > 1 & q=aaron*katz*columbia*holistic*urology*clinic > > and http://new-chapter.com ] > > > > �����I plan to follow those recommendations; I may add an > > Ayurvedic formula (Prostate Protection) from mapi.com. If anyone > has any > > other suggestions, I would certainly be interested to hear them. > > > > �����I feel that my experience has been a gift: an opportunity > > to see how well I could do in a difficult situation, as well as, I > > believe, a reminder from nature to slow down and be more mindful, > and to > > better appreciate my normal level of functioning (which is generally > > rather good for someone whose birthdate falls in 1946, or, for that > > matter, in ANY year). Also, it provided an opportunity to get to > know my > > body better, and to experience the medical field first hand, > something I > > hadn't done in a while. I was struck by the competency and caring of > > everyone I came into contact with. But, at the end of the day, they > only > > know what they know, and, when choices are to be made, one can not > > delegate the responsibility. > > > > So how was your week? > > > > B > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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