Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Mary - My initial suspicion is some kind of chemical contamination that your plant may have been exposed to, either from spraying or in the soil. When you put a bit of " soup " on your lips do you have any kind of tingling sensation, or perhaps a lingering taste with a bit what may feel like chapped lips? If so, it may well be a sign of contamination by a pesticide, most often malathion. What was the source of your oleander? Malathion is the most common pesticide used for home landscapes. Fortunately, any amount of pesticide remaining after boiling and filtering would be rather small, and in the case of malathion, it breaks rather quickly, as well as passes from the body rather quickly. If it were me, I would do a good liver detox, up my intake of fresh organic vegetables and fruits, and drink lots of good fresh water and juices - all of which are wonderful for health in general and fighting cancer specifically. Another consideration might be filtration, and, if you do not experience the tingling or chapping sensation mentioned earlier, you might try filtering your existing " soup " through several layers of coffee filters and taking just a tiny bit in your mouth to see if the metallic taste is still there. All of my personal experience and research indicates that the better the " soup " is filtered, the fewer side effects, if any, a person will experience beyond a bit of a loose stool - and this is especially true of stomach distress. There are some large organic compounds that are not always filtered out when you use only paper or cloth towels and that is why I recommend a final filtering through several layers of unbleached coffee filters. Those who have done so, including myself, have reported virtually no side effects - which is consistent with the oral users of the commercial medicine Anvirzel which is run through filters less than 3 microns in size. Mary, a lingering metallic taste is NOT common, even if there is no tingling or chapping sensations, nor is stomach distress that lasts more than a few days at most (although some stomach distress may return as dosage amounts are increased). I would suggest discarding your existing " soup " and starting over with a batch from a source you are sure is free of contamination, doing the extra filtration, and also adding some high grade colloidal silver such as the superior product made by Utopia Silver, which is about as good as can be found anywhere on the planet. As a matter of fact, I now use colloidal silver exclusively as a preservative and anti-bacterial agent for the soup, with no alcohol of vinegar. Note: when you make the soup with colloidal silver, you should store it in a dark cool place, but not refrigerate it because cold temperatures will make true colloidal silver particles clump together and settle out as a precipitate (although there is no harm if they do and you can simply shake the " soup " before each dose). Like Dr. G, I too can only tolerate so much apple cider vinegar, which I take daily (Bragg's unflitered organic ACV with the " mother " ). I might also add that whenever I have a bit of stomach upset, I am usually able to vanquish it in short order with a swallow of colloidal silver. Since colloidal silver is the best pathogen known to mankind, it is a good idea to take it for cancer anyway (but should be accompanied with a good probiotic to keep the beneficial bacteria restored to the gut). You may notice a very, very slight metallic taste from colloidal silver too - but it is just a hint of one, similar to drinking water from a tin cup (it reminds me of the well water we drew from metal buckets and drank out of tin ladles back in medieval times when I was a child). There are a quite a number of people who use the " souup " in Australia and at least a handful of them belong to this sometimes sleepy group. Hopefully one or more will wake up and notice your post. I hope this helps. Live long, live healthy, live happy! oleander soup , " mary k " <maihards wrote: > > I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable > activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three > times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one > dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite > strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in > Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia > that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake > to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider > vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using > OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. > Mary K > > ---- > > Michael Goebel > 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM > oleander soup > Re: Oleander flowers > > I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just > wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the > plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more > surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the > extraction into the water. > > Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters > and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels > and filters. > > Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try > many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery > section of your store. Lemon works best for me. > > May God bless your efforts. > > Dr. Goebel > > Mary <maihards wrote: > Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can the > flowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like to > make some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't include > the flowers? > Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general direction.....I first used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt want to be consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used cider vinegar...whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think for some peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent batch I have used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong co;;odial silver.Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the best bet is to take it with something strong tasting and before food.....take a sip of grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well swallowing and pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold under tounge,then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont have snsitive teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz my teeth start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose bowel activity 'initially but that settles down as your body gets used to it.....I was told I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without radiation,masectomy,lymph node sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never counting chickens and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam - mary k oleander soup Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. Mary K ---- Michael Goebel 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM oleander soup Re: Oleander flowers I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the extraction into the water. Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels and filters.Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery section of your store. Lemon works best for me.May God bless your efforts.Dr. GoebelMary <maihards (AT) iprimus (DOT) com.au> wrote: Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can theflowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like tomake some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't includethe flowers? Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release 11/14/2007 4:54 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Mary hello there. Iam from Australia and have been using oleander soup for nearly a year now, so if you have any questions or you want to right to me please feel free to do so. regards Mary Stathopoulos ( AUSTRALIA ) - mary k oleander soup Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:50 PM Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. Mary K ---- Michael Goebel 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM oleander soup Re: Oleander flowers I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the extraction into the water. Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels and filters.Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery section of your store. Lemon works best for me.May God bless your efforts.Dr. GoebelMary <maihards (AT) iprimus (DOT) com.au> wrote: Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can theflowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like tomake some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't includethe flowers? Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi Mary, If you have ruled out pesticides, the metal taste could be from whatever you used to cook the OS in. If you used the enamaled pot as recommended this could not be the problem, but if you used stainless steal or something else it could be the source. I have a friend who has used Stainless Steal w/o any problems, but I cannot say about other types of metal. I can defintaly say avoid Aluminum. I have been taking OS about 1 tbsp. per day for about 6 months. I don't have any cancer and just do it as along with other things as part of my daily heatlh maintenance routine. Blessings to you Mary, Jeffmary k <maihards wrote: I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. Mary K ---- Michael Goebel 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM oleander soup Re: Oleander flowers I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the extraction into the water. Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels and filters.Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery section of your store. Lemon works best for me.May God bless your efforts.Dr. GoebelMary <maihards (AT) iprimus (DOT) com.au> wrote: Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can theflowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like tomake some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't includethe flowers? Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi Pam, Thank you for responding. My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is pesticides could be the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth, lips and tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will make a new batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going to Auckland tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt Eden. I would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9 631 7372. They operate a business from home so will have the business greeting on the answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to whom I am speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear from you. I have not had any conventional/traditional medical intervention apart from a biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a believer and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past 14months. God is my refuge and strength. Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you. Mary K ---- Pam Griffin 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM oleander soup Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general direction.....I first used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt want to be consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used cider vinegar...whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think for some peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent batch I have used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong co;;odial silver.Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the best bet is to take it with something strong tasting and before food.....take a sip of grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well swallowing and pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold under tounge,then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont have snsitive teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz my teeth start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose bowel activity 'initially but that settles down as your body gets used to it.....I was told I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without radiation,masectomy,lymph node sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never counting chickens and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam - mary k oleander soup Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. Mary K ---- Michael Goebel 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM oleander soup Re: Oleander flowers I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the extraction into the water. Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels and filters.Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery section of your store. Lemon works best for me.May God bless your efforts.Dr. GoebelMary <maihards (AT) iprimus (DOT) com.au> wrote: Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can theflowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like tomake some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't includethe flowers? Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release 11/14/2007 4:54 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 If you feel tingling in your lips, I would throw out the oleander batch and start again. Actually, I would get a new bush. Make sure it is organically grown. Very important to be sure that no pesticides have been used. Hugs, May These are The Best Years in Life What's New? The Best Years in Life Blog Need to take a break? Visit 's Corner (under construction) GRAND OPENING May's Complete Supplement Catalog Cleanburn Technology DipetaneSoutheast We can put a dent in Global Warming DipetaneSoutheast Official Blog mary k <maihardsoleander soup Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:31:22 AMRe: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions Hi Pam, Thank you for responding. My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is pesticides could be the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth, lips and tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will make a new batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going to Auckland tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt Eden. I would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9 631 7372. They operate a business from home so will have the business greeting on the answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to whom I am speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear from you. I have not had any conventional/ traditional medical intervention apart from a biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a believer and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past 14months. God is my refuge and strength. Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you. Mary K -- -- Pam Griffin 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM oleander soup Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general direction... ..I first used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt want to be consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used cider vinegar...whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think for some peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent batch I have used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong co;;odial silver.Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the best bet is to take it with something strong tasting and before food.....take a sip of grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well swallowing and pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold under tounge,then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont have snsitive teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz my teeth start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose bowel activity 'initially but that settles down as your body gets used to it.....I was told I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without radiation,masectomy ,lymph node sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never counting chickens and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam - mary k oleander soup Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. Mary K -- -- Michael Goebel 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM oleander soup Re: Oleander flowers I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the extraction into the water. Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels and filters.Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery section of your store. Lemon works best for me.May God bless your efforts.Dr. GoebelMary <maihards (AT) iprimus (DOT) com.au> wrote: Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can theflowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like tomake some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't includethe flowers? Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. 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Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Thanks May, I am planning to do just that. How do I know no pesticides have been used? Any amount of washing make any difference? With what? Thank you again. Mary K ---- May 20/11/2007 3:49:02 AM oleander soup Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions If you feel tingling in your lips, I would throw out the oleander batch and start again. Actually, I would get a new bush. Make sure it is organically grown. Very important to be sure that no pesticides have been used. Hugs, May These are The Best Years in Life What's New? The Best Years in Life Blog Need to take a break? Visit 's Corner (under construction) GRAND OPENING May's Complete Supplement Catalog Cleanburn Technology DipetaneSoutheast We can put a dent in Global Warming DipetaneSoutheast Official Blog mary k <maihardsoleander soup Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:31:22 AMRe: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions Hi Pam, Thank you for responding. My first impression after Michael and Tony's comments is pesticides could be the problem. I do have the tingling chapped feeling in my mouth, lips and tongue and very thirsty. I will do a re filter.I think I will make a new batch using colloidal silver when I return from NZ. I am going to Auckland tomorrow for a week. I will be with my daughter and family at Mt Eden. I would like to speak with you if possible. The phone number is 9 631 7372. They operate a business from home so will have the business greeting on the answer phone. I am hearing impaired, but do well when I know to whom I am speaking. If you would like to call I will be pleased to hear from you. I have not had any conventional/ traditional medical intervention apart from a biopsy of the masses. I have not been given a time frame. I am a believer and know that God has been guiding my footsteps these past 14months. God is my refuge and strength. Thank you again, Look forward to hearing from you. Mary K -- -- Pam Griffin 19/11/2007 1:04:38 PM oleander soup Re: Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions Hey Mary I'm in NZ not quite Aus but in the general direction... ..I first used OS 4 yrs ago and used vodka which worked well but I didnt want to be consuming all that alcohol so the next time I made it I used cider vinegar...whew ! my guts felt like I had used paint stripper and I think for some peoples systems its just not compatible so for my most recent batch I have used collodial silver and this seems fine.50%x50% of strong co;;odial silver.Really there is not much you can add to change the taste.....the best bet is to take it with something strong tasting and before food.....take a sip of grape juice or similar and quickly throw the OS in as well swallowing and pouring more juice down....Tony says to take the OS and hold under tounge,then swallow with juice....this is all very well if you dont have snsitive teeth as the OS comes out of the fridge and I cant handle it coz my teeth start screaming at me.....its normal to get a little 'loose bowel activity 'initially but that settles down as your body gets used to it.....I was told I'd be dead in 5 yrs from my cancer without radiation,masectomy ,lymph node sampling and chemo......So far im pretty fit etc but never counting chickens and being ever on to it helps I'm sure......good luck....Pam - mary k oleander soup Monday, November 19, 2007 12:50 AM Tony Isaacs/Michael Goebel I need some help here. Re: reprocussions I have been on oleander soup for three weeks now. I have had considerable activity gut wise. Is this normal? I have cut back to 1/2 teaspoon three times a day after meals. I get a strong metalic taste which lasts from one dose til the next. I am rarely free of it. I believe I have made a quite strong mixture. I am going this alone as I am not aware of others here in Australia using OS. I would like to be in touch with any here in Australia that are familiar with OS. As far as flavorings, I restrict my sugar intake to nil if possible. I will try lemon as a flavor. I used apple cider vinegar not vodka as preservitive. Looking for support and help. I am using OS as treatment for diagnosis of breast cancer. Mary K -- -- Michael Goebel 14/11/2007 2:28:14 AM oleander soup Re: Oleander flowers I have always used every part of the plant except the roots, Mary. I just wash the dust off and use everything. I use pruning shears to chop the plant up prior to putting it in the pot. The finer you chop it, the more surface area in contact with the boiling water, and so the better the extraction into the water. Be sure to use at least 4, preferably 7 large strainers with coffee filters and/or paper towels to filter your soup. You can buy lint-free paper towels and filters.Don't skimp on the proportion of alcohol to preserve the soup. You can try many things to get a better flavor. Look in the flavors in the bakery section of your store. Lemon works best for me.May God bless your efforts.Dr. GoebelMary <maihards (AT) iprimus (DOT) com.au> wrote: Should the flowers of the oleander be included in the soup? Or can theflowers be included? Is there any reason to or not to? I would like tomake some soup but would like to know if I should or shouldn't includethe flowers? Mary Hards Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. 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