Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I have certainly heard many, many good reports about Poly MVA but nothing works for everyone and you are right, it can be pricey for a lot of people. As noted in the previous post I made, you can find the colloidal silver and the inositol at Utopia Silver, among other places. I have the Utopia Silver products catalogued at /Supplements.htm If you decide to order anything from them, be sure to use the discount code of LR001 to get a 15% discount on any non-sale items. Do you take any kind of iodine product? Such as Lugols or atomodine? oleander soup , Anita G George <anitagg4700 wrote: > > I would like to know more about Advanced Colloidal Silver/IP6. How do you know if you getting the best Advanced Colloidal Silver. > > I was treated for Thyroid Cancer four years ago, I'm on Synthroid. I have not felt , what you would call good since. I think the cancer is is back, I;ve been feel progresssivvly worse the last mont or so. I was taking Poly-MVA (very expensive, about 200.00 a 8oz bottle ), I did not see any great improvement . I'm do for blood work, I afraid to go. > > anitagg4700@ (Anita) > > robert-blau wrote: > For whatever it's worth, I just want to mention intravenous vitamin C. > (See the file over at cancercured group.) Among other things, as wel as > being an ALTERNATIVE to it, it can be used as an adjunct to > chemotherapy, reducing the side effects and increasing the > effectiveness. > > Best, > RB > > Posted by: " Tony " > Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:40 pm (PST) > If it were me, and funds were limited and I could not locate a Rife > machine, I would be looking at trying the Brandt Grapeseed cure and > perhaps the recent baking soda bombs. > Did she ever try the inositol/IP6? So many I have interviewed here > locally, where it has an almost cult following and they use it in > combination with advanced colloidal silver, have had it virtually > melt away tumors and lift them out of what they thought was their > deathbed and back onto their feet. It also appears to work very > quickly in most instances. > If she cannot afford it - I will pay for it myself and send it and > some silver for free. > > oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack@> > wrote: > > > > Tony, > > Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with > all you said. I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary > Ann. We will continue the battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 > treatment from CancerTutor would be a good thing. The cost right now > is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. They just don't have the > extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. What a deal free > poison!! > > I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much > easier to prevent cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now > and then than to deal with a Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully > shielded itself from the immune system. Develop a lifelong plan for > total health which includes some of the simple effective treatments > like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, Barley, Wheat > Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many fresh > vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, > junk food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > > > Blessings to All, > > > > Jeff > > > > Tony @> wrote: Jeff - > > > > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have > done > > all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary > had > > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after > such > > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened > by > > chemo. > > > > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that > shrunk > > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > > indicate that he was surprised to see such a " delayed reaction to > > chemo " . But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind > the > > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural > things > > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the > battle > > was surely successful up to a point. > > > > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of > her > > cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer > for > > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for > the > > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer. > > > > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made > were > > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of > the > > last round of chemo. > > > > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments > at > > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and > take > > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself > is > > standing by her and giving their support. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " > > <jeffery.jack@> wrote: > > > > > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since > last > > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of > previous > > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > > they > > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when > she > > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really > scared. > > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told > me > > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list > of > > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with > most > > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not > done > > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period > with > > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > > her > > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > > her > > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that > chemo > > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with > little > > to > > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the > things > > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I > wold > > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > > two > > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary > Ann > > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > > > Many blessings to everyone, > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thanks for the quick response. I did try MSN3 (Lane Labs) it was discontinued. Something was working , my last check-up I (last March) everything was good. Maybe my aches and pains are old age catching-up with me (61, smile) My fear is the my thyroid cancer can mantasises to the lungs. I am not taking any iodine products, I will take a look at the ones you mentioned. I Thanks again, Tony wrote: I have certainly heard many, many good reports about Poly MVA but nothing works for everyone and you are right, it can be pricey for a lot of people.As noted in the previous post I made, you can find the colloidal silver and the inositol at Utopia Silver, among other places. I have the Utopia Silver products catalogued at /Supplements.htm If you decide to order anything from them, be sure to use the discount code of LR001 to get a 15% discount on any non-sale items.Do you take any kind of iodine product? Such as Lugols or atomodine?Tonyoleander soup , Anita G George <anitagg4700 wrote:>> I would like to know more about Advanced Colloidal Silver/IP6. How do you know if you getting the best Advanced Colloidal Silver. > > I was treated for Thyroid Cancer four years ago, I'm on Synthroid. I have not felt , what you would call good since. I think the cancer is is back, I;ve been feel progresssivvly worse the last mont or so. I was taking Poly-MVA (very expensive, about 200.00 a 8oz bottle ), I did not see any great improvement . I'm do for blood work, I afraid to go.> > anitagg4700@ (Anita)> > robert-blau wrote:> For whatever it's worth, I just want to mention intravenous vitamin C.> (See the file over at cancercured group.) Among other things, as wel as> being an ALTERNATIVE to it, it can be used as an adjunct to> chemotherapy, reducing the side effects and increasing the> effectiveness.> > Best,> RB> > Posted by: "Tony" > Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:40 pm (PST) > If it were me, and funds were limited and I could not locate a Rife > machine, I would be looking at trying the Brandt Grapeseed cure and > perhaps the recent baking soda bombs.> Did she ever try the inositol/IP6? So many I have interviewed here > locally, where it has an almost cult following and they use it in > combination with advanced colloidal silver, have had it virtually > melt away tumors and lift them out of what they thought was their > deathbed and back onto their feet. It also appears to work very > quickly in most instances.> If she cannot afford it - I will pay for it myself and send it and > some silver for free.> Tony> oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack@> > wrote:> >> > Tony,> > Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with > all you said. I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary > Ann. We will continue the battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 > treatment from CancerTutor would be a good thing. The cost right now > is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. They just don't have the > extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. What a deal free > poison!!> > I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much > easier to prevent cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now > and then than to deal with a Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully > shielded itself from the immune system. Develop a lifelong plan for > total health which includes some of the simple effective treatments > like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, Barley, Wheat > Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many fresh > vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, > junk food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.> > > > Blessings to All,> > > > Jeff> > > > Tony @> wrote: Jeff -> > > > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have > done > > all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary > had > > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after > such > > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened > by > > chemo.> > > > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that > shrunk > > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > > indicate that he was surprised to see such a "delayed reaction to > > chemo". But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind > the > > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural > things > > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the > battle > > was surely successful up to a point.> > > > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of > her > > cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer > for > > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for > the > > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer.> > > > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made > were > > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of > the > > last round of chemo.> > > > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments > at > > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and > take > > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself > is > > standing by her and giving their support.> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" > > <jeffery.jack@> wrote:> > >> > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since > last > > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of > previous > > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > > they > > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when > she > > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really > scared. > > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told > me > > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list > of > > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with > most > > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not > done > > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period > with > > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > > her > > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > > her > > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that > chemo > > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with > little > > to > > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the > things > > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I > wold > > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > > two > > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary > Ann > > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > > > Many blessings to everyone,> > > > > > Jeff> > > > > > > > > > Do You ? 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