Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that they are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given her all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within her budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little to choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the two will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann needs all of our prayers. Many blessings to everyone, Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Jeff - I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary had come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by chemo. I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to indicate that he was surprised to see such a " delayed reaction to chemo " . But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle was surely successful up to a point. In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer for chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer. I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the last round of chemo. I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is standing by her and giving their support. oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " <jeffery.jack wrote: > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that they > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given her > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within her > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little to > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the two > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > needs all of our prayers. > > Many blessings to everyone, > > Jeff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Tony,Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. What a deal free poison!!I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.Blessings to All,JeffTony wrote: Jeff - I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary had come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by chemo. I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to indicate that he was surprised to see such a "delayed reaction to chemo". But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle was surely successful up to a point. In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer for chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer. I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the last round of chemo. I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is standing by her and giving their support. Tony oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" <jeffery.jack wrote: > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that they > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given her > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within her > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little to > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the two > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > needs all of our prayers. > > Many blessings to everyone, > > Jeff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Jeffery, You made an offer at one time about kombucha and a couple of other things you had made up and was saying that you could send for shipping. I am very intersted in the kombacha and whatever else. Please let me know what the costs are. I really would like those recipes and info that you sent before, if you can resend. Thanks, Janna -------------- Original message ---------------------- Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack > > Tony, > Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. > I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the > battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a > good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. > They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. > What a deal free poison!! > I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent > cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a > Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. > Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple > effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, > Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many > fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk > food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > Blessings to All, > > Jeff > > Tony wrote: Jeff - > > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary had > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > chemo. > > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > indicate that he was surprised to see such a " delayed reaction to > chemo " . But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > was surely successful up to a point. > > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer for > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer. > > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > last round of chemo. > > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > standing by her and giving their support. > > > > oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " > <jeffery.jack wrote: > > > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone, > > > > Jeff > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Could you tell me a little more about advanced colloidal silver? Thanks, Edith In a message dated 10/28/2007 11:40:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, writes: If it were me, and funds were limited and I could not locate a Rife machine, I would be looking at trying the Brandt Grapeseed cure and perhaps the recent baking soda bombs.Did she ever try the inositol/IP6? So many I have interviewed here locally, where it has an almost cult following and they use it in combination with advanced colloidal silver See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 If it were me, and funds were limited and I could not locate a Rife machine, I would be looking at trying the Brandt Grapeseed cure and perhaps the recent baking soda bombs. Did she ever try the inositol/IP6? So many I have interviewed here locally, where it has an almost cult following and they use it in combination with advanced colloidal silver, have had it virtually melt away tumors and lift them out of what they thought was their deathbed and back onto their feet. It also appears to work very quickly in most instances. If she cannot afford it - I will pay for it myself and send it and some silver for free. oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote: > > Tony, > Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. What a deal free poison!! > I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > Blessings to All, > > Jeff > > Tony wrote: Jeff - > > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary had > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > chemo. > > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > indicate that he was surprised to see such a " delayed reaction to > chemo " . But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > was surely successful up to a point. > > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer for > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer. > > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > last round of chemo. > > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > standing by her and giving their support. > > > > oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " > <jeffery.jack@> wrote: > > > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone, > > > > Jeff > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 For whatever it's worth, I just want to mention intravenous vitamin C. (See the file over at cancercured group.) Among other things, as wel as being an ALTERNATIVE to it, it can be used as an adjunct to chemotherapy, reducing the side effects and increasing the effectiveness. Best, RB Posted by: " Tony " Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:40 pm (PST) If it were me, and funds were limited and I could not locate a Rife machine, I would be looking at trying the Brandt Grapeseed cure and perhaps the recent baking soda bombs. Did she ever try the inositol/IP6? So many I have interviewed here locally, where it has an almost cult following and they use it in combination with advanced colloidal silver, have had it virtually melt away tumors and lift them out of what they thought was their deathbed and back onto their feet. It also appears to work very quickly in most instances. If she cannot afford it - I will pay for it myself and send it and some silver for free. oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote: > > Tony, > Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. What a deal free poison!! > I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > Blessings to All, > > Jeff > > Tony wrote: Jeff - > > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary had > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > chemo. > > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > indicate that he was surprised to see such a " delayed reaction to > chemo " . But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > was surely successful up to a point. > > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer for > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer. > > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > last round of chemo. > > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > standing by her and giving their support. > > > > oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " > <jeffery.jack@> wrote: > > > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone, > > > > Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 My deepest heartfelt sympathy.. and understanding. I was supposed to die in 1973, at least according to the oncologists and medical doctors. Take 3/4 cup of pure maple syrup - combine with 1/4 cup of plain baking soda. Heat just until hot enough to dissolve the baking soda into the syrup.. (it will foam up), stir until you are sure that the soda is dissolved and cool.. put into a glass bottle and store in the refrig. Take one tablespoon of the mixture in the morning and one tablespoon before bedtime. (It does NOT taste bad at all.) The sugar is the necessary natural food for the cancer cells and therefore the sugar will be attracted/drawn into the cancer cells. It will take with it the bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) which will restore the correct PH of the cell and allow oxygen into the cell which will immediately kill the cancer.. (Cancer can only thrive in an anarobic condition... IE: without oxygen.) Certainly cannot do ANY harm, and until Mary Ann tries it she won't know what good it can and will do. NEV oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " <jeffery.jack wrote: > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that they > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given her > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within her > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little to > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the two > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > needs all of our prayers. > > Many blessings to everyone, > > Jeff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Yes, that is one of the things I would try too. The same theory applies for the grapeseed cure recommended on Cancertutor - you starve the cancer, then feed it only grapeseed extract, which the cancer takes in and the extract zaps the cancer. It has worked for many and if Webster Kehr likes it, so do I. Of course, I would make sure that I had not neglected some of the items I consider critical in a comprehensive anti-cancer protocol. Mary was already doing a very great many wonderful things. I am not sure though if her regimen included Inositol, iodine or colloidal silver and those are three absolute musts I would use for myself if I had cancer. I already use them as is, along with oleander, to keep from getting cancer. In the meanwhile, I ask everyone to keep Mary in their hearts and prayers. Blessings to all, oleander soup , " englishvinal " <englishvinal wrote: > > My deepest heartfelt sympathy.. and understanding. I was supposed to > die in 1973, at least according to the oncologists and medical > doctors. > > Take 3/4 cup of pure maple syrup - combine with 1/4 cup of plain > baking soda. Heat just until hot enough to dissolve the baking soda > into the syrup.. (it will foam up), stir until you are sure that the > soda is dissolved and cool.. put into a glass bottle and store in the > refrig. Take one tablespoon of the mixture in the morning and one > tablespoon before bedtime. (It does NOT taste bad at all.) > > The sugar is the necessary natural food for the cancer cells and > therefore the sugar will be attracted/drawn into the cancer cells. It > will take with it the bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) which will > restore the correct PH of the cell and allow oxygen into the cell > which will immediately kill the cancer.. (Cancer can only thrive in > an anarobic condition... IE: without oxygen.) > > Certainly cannot do ANY harm, and until Mary Ann tries it she won't > know what good it can and will do. > > NEV > > oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " > <jeffery.jack@> wrote: > > > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone, > > > > Jeff > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Oh Jeff, my heart hurts for Mary Anne. I am so sorry. While she goes through chemo again, make sure she takes the oleander soup. This will curb the side effects. I really don't think it was the chemo that shrunk the tumors in the first place. Certainly not a delayed reaction. You can almost verify that by the doctor's reaction a few months ago. Where there is breath there is life. Does she meditate? Can she imagine the tumors shrinking to nothingness? This is an exercise that needs to be done several times a day. Another wonderful healing meditation is while lying down, relaxing or going to sleep as you breathe in, imagine breathing in God's very own breath and watch it go to every cell healing the entire body. I know this is disappointing for her and also for you. But Jeff, you stay positive. You are her cheerleader and she needs you more than ever now. If she needs help with guided meditations, get a hold of me. Tony knows how you can get in touch with me. In the meantime, she is in my prayers. Hugs, oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " <jeffery.jack wrote: > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that they > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given her > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within her > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little to > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the two > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > needs all of our prayers. > > Many blessings to everyone, > > Jeff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanks very much May for your words of encouragement. I am going to stay positive and I hope that Mary Ann will as well. You are right about the chemo. In my discouragement, I said what I said. In my 12 years of nursing experience, I never saw what I saw with regard to the shrinking of those tumors and chemo. About all I have seen from chemo are negative side effects. Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hair loss, illness. I wonder if the chemo and the OS and other immune boosting remidies she was taking at the time of the chemo administration was like a 1-2 punch to the cancer. We will soon see as I think that this will be the route she is going to take. She reassured me that she is going to continue all she is doing at this time. I will continue to keep this group posted. Blessings and Thank you May Jeff May <luellamay129 wrote: Oh Jeff, my heart hurts for Mary Anne. I am so sorry. While she goes through chemo again, make sure she takes the oleander soup. This will curb the side effects. I really don't think it was the chemo that shrunk the tumors in the first place. Certainly not a delayed reaction. You can almost verify that by the doctor's reaction a few months ago. Where there is breath there is life. Does she meditate? Can she imagine the tumors shrinking to nothingness? This is an exercise that needs to be done several times a day. Another wonderful healing meditation is while lying down, relaxing or going to sleep as you breathe in, imagine breathing in God's very own breath and watch it go to every cell healing the entire body.I know this is disappointing for her and also for you. But Jeff, you stay positive. You are her cheerleader and she needs you more than ever now. If she needs help with guided meditations, get a hold of me. Tony knows how you can get in touch with me.In the meantime, she is in my prayers.Hugs,oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" <jeffery.jack wrote:>> I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that they > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given her > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within her > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little to > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the two > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > needs all of our prayers. > > Many blessings to everyone,> > Jeff> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 NEV, Thanks for the advice. This should be easy enough to do. I will pass it on to her. Probably will make it up myself and take it to her. They live way out in the country and can't get into town often. Thanks and blessings to you, Jeffenglishvinal <englishvinal wrote: My deepest heartfelt sympathy.. and understanding. I was supposed to die in 1973, at least according to the oncologists and medical doctors.Take 3/4 cup of pure maple syrup - combine with 1/4 cup of plain baking soda. Heat just until hot enough to dissolve the baking soda into the syrup.. (it will foam up), stir until you are sure that the soda is dissolved and cool.. put into a glass bottle and store in the refrig. Take one tablespoon of the mixture in the morning and one tablespoon before bedtime. (It does NOT taste bad at all.)The sugar is the necessary natural food for the cancer cells and therefore the sugar will be attracted/drawn into the cancer cells. It will take with it the bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) which will restore the correct PH of the cell and allow oxygen into the cell which will immediately kill the cancer.. (Cancer can only thrive in an anarobic condition... IE: without oxygen.)Certainly cannot do ANY harm, and until Mary Ann tries it she won't know what good it can and will do.NEVoleander soup , "jeffery.jack" <jeffery.jack wrote:>> I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that they > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given her > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within her > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little to > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the two > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > needs all of our prayers. > > Many blessings to everyone,> > Jeff> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I am sure the immune boosting remedies had a lot to do with it. And again, the immune boosting remedies will do wonders. One more thing. A very powerful affirmation for her to use is . . . " Thank you God for my healing. " Understandably, Mary Anne is depressed and scared. It is very important she stay positive. The mind is a powerful instrument. So powerful, we don't understand it. Keep on her with regard to the meditations too. If she can have a set routine to do them. Prayer is very powerful. Shower her with positive thoughts. Bathe her in God's white light. The Bible says, " Ask and ye shall receive. " Nowhere does it say " maybe. " The reason we don't receive answers to our prayers is our lack of faith. Nothing else. God is God. Thank you for your caring and for being such a wonderful friend to Mary Anne. I will keep her in my prayers. Hugs, oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote: > > Thanks very much May for your words of encouragement. I am going to stay positive and I hope that Mary Ann will as well. You are right about the chemo. In my discouragement, I said what I said. In my 12 years of nursing experience, I never saw what I saw with regard to the shrinking of those tumors and chemo. About all I have seen from chemo are negative side effects. Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hair loss, illness. I wonder if the chemo and the OS and other immune boosting remidies she was taking at the time of the chemo administration was like a 1-2 punch to the cancer. We will soon see as I think that this will be the route she is going to take. She reassured me that she is going to continue all she is doing at this time. I will continue to keep this group posted. > > Blessings and Thank you May > > Jeff > > May <luellamay129 wrote: > Oh Jeff, my heart hurts for Mary Anne. I am so sorry. While she > goes through chemo again, make sure she takes the oleander soup. > This will curb the side effects. > > I really don't think it was the chemo that shrunk the tumors in the > first place. Certainly not a delayed reaction. You can almost > verify that by the doctor's reaction a few months ago. > > Where there is breath there is life. Does she meditate? Can she > imagine the tumors shrinking to nothingness? This is an exercise > that needs to be done several times a day. Another wonderful healing > meditation is while lying down, relaxing or going to sleep as you > breathe in, imagine breathing in God's very own breath and watch it > go to every cell healing the entire body. > > I know this is disappointing for her and also for you. But Jeff, you > stay positive. You are her cheerleader and she needs you more than > ever now. If she needs help with guided meditations, get a hold of > me. Tony knows how you can get in touch with me. > > In the meantime, she is in my prayers. > > Hugs, > > > oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " > <jeffery.jack@> wrote: > > > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone, > > > > Jeff > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Tony, I have been wanting to save up and buy a Rife machine to help people, but the funds have not allowed it. Lord willing I will do this in the future however. I don't know of anyone locally (Wichita, KS) that has a Rife Machine. I know that she could not afford to pay for its use. She has not ever tried IP6 or Inositol. I know that they don't have money because every thing that she has used that I have recommended, I have given to her free of charge. They are not beggers and have never asked for anything for free. I could just tell by the way they live that there's not much to spare. It is all they can to to by her lots of good clean food and they are trying to learn how to garden. God has provided for me so I figure I can use what is His anyway to help others when the need arises. Anyway, If you feel led to send something in her cause that would be great. You can communicate with me at jtjackgal220 and I will give you my address to ship whatever you feel lead to send. I have not read up much on IP6 and Inositol. I will do so. Bless you my friend. Blessings, JeffTony wrote: If it were me, and funds were limited and I could not locate a Rife machine, I would be looking at trying the Brandt Grapeseed cure and perhaps the recent baking soda bombs.Did she ever try the inositol/IP6? So many I have interviewed here locally, where it has an almost cult following and they use it in combination with advanced colloidal silver, have had it virtually melt away tumors and lift them out of what they thought was their deathbed and back onto their feet. It also appears to work very quickly in most instances.If she cannot afford it - I will pay for it myself and send it and some silver for free.Tonyoleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote:>> Tony,> Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. What a deal free poison!!> I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.> > Blessings to All,> > Jeff> > Tony wrote: Jeff -> > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary had > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > chemo.> > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > indicate that he was surprised to see such a "delayed reaction to > chemo". But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > was surely successful up to a point.> > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer for > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer.> > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > last round of chemo.> > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > standing by her and giving their support.> > Tony> > oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" > <jeffery.jack@> wrote:> >> > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone,> > > > Jeff> >> > > > > > > > > > Do You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanks . Jeff May <luellamay129 wrote: I am sure the immune boosting remedies had a lot to do with it. And again, the immune boosting remedies will do wonders. One more thing. A very powerful affirmation for her to use is . . . "Thank you God for my healing."Understandably, Mary Anne is depressed and scared. It is very important she stay positive. The mind is a powerful instrument. So powerful, we don't understand it. Keep on her with regard to the meditations too. If she can have a set routine to do them.Prayer is very powerful. Shower her with positive thoughts. Bathe her in God's white light. The Bible says, "Ask and ye shall receive." Nowhere does it say "maybe." The reason we don't receive answers to our prayers is our lack of faith. Nothing else. God is God.Thank you for your caring and for being such a wonderful friend to Mary Anne. I will keep her in my prayers. Hugs,oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote:>> Thanks very much May for your words of encouragement. I am going to stay positive and I hope that Mary Ann will as well. You are right about the chemo. In my discouragement, I said what I said. In my 12 years of nursing experience, I never saw what I saw with regard to the shrinking of those tumors and chemo. About all I have seen from chemo are negative side effects. Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hair loss, illness. I wonder if the chemo and the OS and other immune boosting remidies she was taking at the time of the chemo administration was like a 1-2 punch to the cancer. We will soon see as I think that this will be the route she is going to take. She reassured me that she is going to continue all she is doing at this time. I will continue to keep this group posted.> > Blessings and Thank you May> > Jeff> > May <luellamay129 wrote:> Oh Jeff, my heart hurts for Mary Anne. I am so sorry. While she > goes through chemo again, make sure she takes the oleander soup. > This will curb the side effects. > > I really don't think it was the chemo that shrunk the tumors in the > first place. Certainly not a delayed reaction. You can almost > verify that by the doctor's reaction a few months ago. > > Where there is breath there is life. Does she meditate? Can she > imagine the tumors shrinking to nothingness? This is an exercise > that needs to be done several times a day. Another wonderful healing > meditation is while lying down, relaxing or going to sleep as you > breathe in, imagine breathing in God's very own breath and watch it > go to every cell healing the entire body.> > I know this is disappointing for her and also for you. But Jeff, you > stay positive. You are her cheerleader and she needs you more than > ever now. If she needs help with guided meditations, get a hold of > me. Tony knows how you can get in touch with me.> > In the meantime, she is in my prayers.> > Hugs,> > > oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" > <jeffery.jack@> wrote:> >> > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone,> > > > Jeff> >> > > > > > > > > > Do You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hello Janna, I would be glad to send you a Kombucha culture. I am at work now and I have our e-mail conversations saved on my computer at home. I will look back and see what other things we talked about. Give me a couple of days and I will ship you out the culture. When you get it, You can look on the box to see what the shipping is and then send me a check. I know that I also have ESSIAC TEA dried herbs mixed up and vacum sealed and will throw this in as well. There will be enough to last about 4-6 months. You have my private e-mail. Send me a note with your shipping address. Blessings, Jeff cr8iveart wrote: Jeffery,You made an offer at one time about kombucha and a couple of other things you had made up and was saying that you could send for shipping. I am very intersted in the kombacha and whatever else. Please let me know what the costs are. I really would like those recipes and info that you sent before, if you can resend. Thanks, Janna-------------- Original message ----------------------Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack >>> Tony,> Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. > I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the > battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a > good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. > They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. > What a deal free poison!!> I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent > cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a > Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. > Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple > effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, > Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many > fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk > food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.> > Blessings to All,> > Jeff> > Tony > wrote: Jeff -> > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > all you possibly could given the circumstances. I wish that Mary had > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > chemo.> > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > indicate that he was surprised to see such a "delayed reaction to > chemo". But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > was surely successful up to a point.> > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > cancer and save her if possible. Oleander does potentiate cancer for > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer.> > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > last round of chemo.> > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > standing by her and giving their support.> > Tony> > oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" > <jeffery.jack wrote:> >> > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while crying, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing naturally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone,> > > > Jeff> >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Jeff, Sorry - I didn't get this post till this morning. I thought that you did not get it and I sent you another post. I so appreciate all that you do. I teach school and take care of my 93 year old Dad and it looks like I will be taking care of my sister as well. But, God has indeed blessed me and I would like to send you a contribution for Mary Anne as well. You are doing so much and so freely. Thank you, thank you, thank you. My address is Janna Bernstein, 6580 Poplar Woods Circle S, #3 Germantown, TN 38138 -------------- Original message from Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack: -------------- Hello Janna, I would be glad to send you a Kombucha culture. I am at work now and I have our e-mail conversations saved on my computer at home. I will look back and see what other things we talked about. Give me a couple of days and I will ship you out the culture. When you get it, You can look on the box to see what the shipping is and then send me a check. I know that I also have ESSIAC TEA dried herbs mixed up and vacum sealed and will throw this in as well. There will be enough to last about 4-6 months. You have my private e-mail. Send me a note with your shipping address. Blessings, Jeff cr8iveart (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net wrote: Jeffery,You made an offer at one time about kombucha and a couple of other things you had made up and was saying that you could send for shipping. I am very intersted in the kombacha and whatever else. Please let me know what the costs are. I really would like those recipes and info that you sent before, if you can resend. Thanks, Janna-------------- Original message ----------------------Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack >>> Tony,> Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. > I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the > battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a > good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. > They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. > What a de al free poison!!> I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent > cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a > Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. > Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple > effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, > Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many > fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk > food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.> > Blessings to All,> > Jeff> > Tony > wrote: Jeff -> > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > all you possibly could given the circumst ances. I wish that Mary had > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > chemo.> > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > indicate that he was surprised to see such a "delayed reaction to > chemo". But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > was surely successful up to a point.> > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > cancer and save her if possible. Oleand er does potentiate cancer for > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer.> > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > last round of chemo.> > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > standing by her and giving their support.> > Tony> &g t; oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" > <jeffery.jack wrote:> >> > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while cryi ng, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing na turally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone,> > > > Jeff> >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Janna, I'll get the Kombucha and the ESSIAC shipped out by Friday. I will include in the package my mailing address, and info about the ESSIAC and the Kombucha. And thanks for whatever you can do to help Mary Ann. Blessings, Jeffcr8iveart wrote: Jeff, Sorry - I didn't get this post till this morning. I thought that you did not get it and I sent you another post. I so appreciate all that you do. I teach school and take care of my 93 year old Dad and it looks like I will be taking care of my sister as well. But, God has indeed blessed me and I would like to send you a contribution for Mary Anne as well. You are doing so much and so freely. Thank you, thank you, thank you. My address is Janna Bernstein, 6580 Poplar Woods Circle S, #3 Germantown, TN 38138 -------------- Original message from Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack >: -------------- Hello Janna, I would be glad to send you a Kombucha culture. I am at work now and I have our e-mail conversations saved on my computer at home. I will look back and see what other things we talked about. Give me a couple of days and I will ship you out the culture. When you get it, You can look on the box to see what the shipping is and then send me a check. I know that I also have ESSIAC TEA dried herbs mixed up and vacum sealed and will throw this in as well. There will be enough to last about 4-6 months. You have my private e-mail. Send me a note with your shipping address. Blessings, Jeff cr8iveart (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net wrote: Jeffery,You made an offer at one time about kombucha and a couple of other things you had made up and was saying that you could send for shipping. I am very intersted in the kombacha and whatever else. Please let me know what the costs are. I really would like those recipes and info that you sent before, if you can resend. Thanks, Janna-------------- Original message ----------------------Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack >>> Tony,> Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. > I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the > battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a > good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. > They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. > What a de al free poison!!> I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent > cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a > Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. > Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple > effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, > Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many > fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk > food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.> > Blessings to All,> > Jeff> > Tony > wrote: Jeff -> > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > all you possibly could given the circumst ances. I wish that Mary had > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > chemo.> > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > indicate that he was surprised to see such a "delayed reaction to > chemo". But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > was surely successful up to a point.> > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > cancer and save her if possible. Oleand er does potentiate cancer for > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer.> > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > last round of chemo.> > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > standing by her and giving their support.> > Tony> & g t; oleander soup , "jeffery.jack" > <jeffery.jack wrote:> >> > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > they > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > while cryi ng, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > her > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > her > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > to > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > that she is doing na turally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > two > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > Many blessings to everyone,> > > > Jeff> >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Did you miss my private email to you? Please send me your mailing address ASAP to or dquixote1217 - I have a package to send you. oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote: > > Janna, > I'll get the Kombucha and the ESSIAC shipped out by Friday. I will include in the package my mailing address, and info about the ESSIAC and the Kombucha. And thanks for whatever you can do to help Mary Ann. > > Blessings, > > Jeff > > cr8iveart wrote: > > Jeff, > Sorry - I didn't get this post till this morning. I thought that you did not get it and I sent you another post. I so appreciate all that you do. I teach school and take care of my 93 year old Dad and it looks like I will be taking care of my sister as well. But, God has indeed blessed me and I would like to send you a contribution for Mary Anne as well. You are doing so much and so freely. Thank you, thank you, thank you. My address is Janna Bernstein, 6580 Poplar Woods Circle S, #3 Germantown, TN 38138 > > -------------- Original message from Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack: -------------- > > Hello Janna, > > I would be glad to send you a Kombucha culture. I am at work now and I have our e-mail conversations saved on my computer at home. I will look back and see what other things we talked about. Give me a couple of days and I will ship you out the culture. When you get it, You can look on the box to see what the shipping is and then send me a check. I know that I also have ESSIAC TEA dried herbs mixed up and vacum sealed and will throw this in as well. There will be enough to last about 4-6 months. You have my private e-mail. Send me a note with your shipping address. > > Blessings, > > Jeff > > cr8iveart wrote: > Jeffery, > You made an offer at one time about kombucha and a couple of other things you had made up and was saying that you could send for shipping. I am very intersted in the kombacha and whatever else. Please let me know what the costs are. I really would like those recipes and info that you sent before, if you can resend. Thanks, Janna > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack > > > > Tony, > > Thanks for the reply. You are a real encouragement. I agree with all you said. > > I am not going to give up hope and neither is Mary Ann. We will continue the > > battle. I agree that a strong Stage 4 treatment from CancerTutor would be a > > good thing. The cost right now is the most prohibitive thing for Mary Ann. > > They just don't have the extra cash and chemo is free with their insurance. > > What a de al free poison!! > > I would like to encourage anyone reading this that it is much easier to prevent > > cancer and kill a few cells that might pop up now and then than to deal with a > > Stage 3 or Stage 4 Cancer that has fully shielded itself from the immune system. > > Develop a lifelong plan for total health which includes some of the simple > > effective treatments like OS, FlaxSeed/Cottage Cheese, Kombucha, Alfalfa, > > Barley, Wheat Grass, Aloe Vera, Pao D' Arco, Cat's Claw, Apricot Seeds, many > > fresh vegetables, daily exercise and the like. Avoiding chemicals, sugar, junk > > food, etc. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. > > > > Blessings to All, > > > > Jeff > > > > Tony wrote: Jeff - > > > > I am so sorry to hear the news. I truly believe that you have done > > all you possibly could given the circumst ances. I wish that Mary had > > come to us much earlier instead of turning to alternatives after such > > a late stage and after having her immune system further weakened by > > chemo. > > > > I am not sure that I agree that chemo is the only thing that shrunk > > the tumors - and the oncologist's reaction you reported seems to > > indicate that he was surprised to see such a " delayed reaction to > > chemo " . But perhaps so, at least in part. Much like an infection > > that is treated with anti-biotics, it appears that sometimes it is > > the easiest part of the cancer that is killed off, leaving behind the > > most resistant strains. Whether chemo, all the good natural things > > you have had Mary do, or a combination - it appears that the battle > > was surely successful up to a point. > > > > In the end, it will be Mary's immune system that will get rid of her > > cancer and save her if possible. Oleand er does potentiate cancer for > > chemo and radiation treatment and it does lessen or eliminate the > > side effects, so perhaps this time will not be so bad if she does > > have chemo. And perhaps somehow the chemo will buy some time for the > > immune system to turn the tide and rid her of the cancer. > > > > I can promise you one thing - all of the improvements she made were > > not from chemo, and all of the good things she has been doing have > > put her in better stead to handle the chemo this time and perhaps > > emerge with a stronger immune system than she had at the end of the > > last round of chemo. > > > > I would suggest looking at one of the strong stage IV treatments at > > Cancertutor. And of course we will keep Mary in our prayers and take > > comfort in knowing that a caring and kind person such as yourself is > > standing by her and giving their support. > > > > > > > & g t; oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " > > <jeffery.jack@> wrote: > > > > > > I spoke with Mary Ann today. It had been several weeks since last > > > talking with her. Today, she told me that her tumors are coming > > > back. She states that about two weeks ago, the areas of previous > > > growth on her chest and neck began to enlarge. She states that > > they > > > are progressing at about the same growth rate as in June when she > > > was evaluated and told Stage IV Breast Cancer with multiple > > > metastisis sites. She says that she is having pain on her chest > > > wall which is new. She is going to her Oncologist on Monday or > > > Tuesday which ever day they can get her in. She is really scared. > > > I can't blame her. She has 6 kids. Youngest is 6, and she told me > > > while cryi ng, she is not ready to die. We went through the list of > > > things that she has been doing and she has been faithful with most > > > all of it. The only thing that I can say I know she has not done > > > that I recommended is to go through a cleansing detox. period with > > > things like juice fasting and colon cleansing (Gerson). In > > > Retrospect, I think that the chemo was what initally shrunk the > > > tumors, even though I know that chemo will only worsen the inner > > > terrain of the body and destroy the immune system. I have given > > her > > > all that I know as far as natural treatment that has been within > > her > > > budget, and the oncologist told her from the beginning that chemo > > > and radiation would not get rid of this. She is left with little > > to > > > choose from. She told me she is going to continue with the things > > > that she is doing na turally and start up chemo. I told her, I wold > > > stand behind what ever she chooses and I told her this from the > > > beginning. Like I said, I can't blame her. Mabye combining the > > two > > > will be what it takes to get her on the path to recovery. Mary Ann > > > needs all of our prayers. > > > > > > Many blessings to everyone, > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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