Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Hello, I finally acquired the oleander plant I wanted to show it to you... so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it will grow and grow over again? Heres the plant..its still small but will do for a small soup right? http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg Thanks PS: I had a small cut on the finger and while buying the plant from the local nursery i think i touch the plant with the wound and had a mild stinging haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 It looks like a fine and healthy plant and it should thrive with only cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure to rinse the leaves and stems when you clip them. Also, do not pack the plant material too hard in the pot. Just clip the leaves and stems so they are smaller than the diameter of the pot, place them loosely in the pot and then tamp them down (as opposed to crushing them down into a very tight mass - that would be overdoing it). When you finish making your soup - touch a bit of it to your lips. If there is any stinging then, it is very likely that the nursery used malathion or another insecticide on the plant. If that is the case, discard the soup, although you may keep the plant and again after a fw weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves. oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle wrote: > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander plant > > I wanted to show it to you... > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it will grow and grow over again? > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will do for a small soup right? > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > Thanks > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and while buying the plant from > the local nursery i think i touch the plant with the wound and had a > mild stinging haha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Great, he told he didn't use any pesticides..the dilemma is the following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot from stainless steel.. as you seen my plant is not that big, so i would assume the clippings wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot ..and if i push them down it will be even less.. do you want me still to fill up with 2 " inch from the top? in that case the potency will probably drop due to ratio of the clippings to water... or it doesn't make a difference and i still fill it up as on the recipe? See i don't wanna clip it too much in order to get most clippings and kill the plant.. Now another issue, I just realised that there is no direct sunlight to my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright still would that be an issue? these are the last questions and after im starting the process its my b day today I hope i wont poison myself..i got lotsa coffe filters + lots of paper towels and the plastic thingies to strain the liquid threw heheh oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant and it should thrive with only > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure to rinse the leaves and stems > when you clip them. > > Also, do not pack the plant material too hard in the pot. Just clip > the leaves and stems so they are smaller than the diameter of the pot, > place them loosely in the pot and then tamp them down (as opposed to > crushing them down into a very tight mass - that would be overdoing it). > > When you finish making your soup - touch a bit of it to your lips. If > there is any stinging then, it is very likely that the nursery used > malathion or another insecticide on the plant. If that is the case, > discard the soup, although you may keep the plant and again after a fw > weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves. > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander plant > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it will grow and grow over again? > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will do for a small soup right? > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > Thanks > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and while buying the plant from > > the local nursery i think i touch the plant with the wound and had a > > mild stinging haha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 You do not fill to within two inches of the top of the pot - you fill to just cover the oleander. The two inches from the top of the pot is the measurement when you have enough oleander to almost fill the pot. All water volumes in the recipe are judged by the original amount of water it takes to just fill to the top of the oleander you use. Keep a close eye since you have a small volume of oleander - you will likely need to add water as time goes by to keep from having too much evaporate and scorching. oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle wrote: > > Great, he told he didn't use any pesticides..the dilemma is the > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot from stainless steel.. > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i would assume the clippings > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot ..and if i push them down it > will be even less.. do you want me still to fill up with 2 " inch from > the top? in that case the potency will probably drop due to ratio of > the clippings to water... or it doesn't make a difference and i still > fill it up as on the recipe? > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in order to get most clippings and > kill the plant.. > > Now another issue, I just realised that there is no direct sunlight to > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright still would that be an issue? > > these are the last questions and after im starting the process > its my b day today I hope i wont poison myself..i got lotsa coffe > filters + lots of paper towels and the plastic thingies to strain the > liquid threw heheh > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant and it should thrive with only > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure to rinse the leaves and stems > > when you clip them. > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too hard in the pot. Just clip > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller than the diameter of the pot, > > place them loosely in the pot and then tamp them down (as opposed to > > crushing them down into a very tight mass - that would be overdoing it). > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch a bit of it to your lips. If > > there is any stinging then, it is very likely that the nursery used > > malathion or another insecticide on the plant. If that is the case, > > discard the soup, although you may keep the plant and again after a fw > > weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander plant > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it will grow and grow over again? > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will do for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and while buying the plant from > > > the local nursery i think i touch the plant with the wound and had a > > > mild stinging haha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Thanks, boiling it right now...just started actually..is there any danger in inhaling the vapor when bpiling? thx --- Tony wrote: > You do not fill to within two inches of the top of > the pot - you fill > to just cover the oleander. The two inches from the > top of the pot is > the measurement when you have enough oleander to > almost fill the pot. > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged by the > original amount of > water it takes to just fill to the top of the > oleander you use. > > Keep a close eye since you have a small volume of > oleander - you will > likely need to add water as time goes by to keep > from having too much > evaporate and scorching. > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > <boystyle wrote: > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any pesticides..the > dilemma is the > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot from > stainless steel.. > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i would > assume the clippings > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot ..and if i > push them down it > > will be even less.. do you want me still to fill > up with 2 " inch from > > the top? in that case the potency will probably > drop due to ratio of > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't make a > difference and i still > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in order to get > most clippings and > > kill the plant.. > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that there is > no direct sunlight to > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright still > would that be an issue? > > > > these are the last questions and after im starting > the process > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison myself..i > got lotsa coffe > > filters + lots of paper towels and the plastic > thingies to strain the > > liquid threw heheh > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " > @> wrote: > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant and it > should thrive with only > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure to rinse > the leaves and stems > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too hard in > the pot. Just clip > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller than > the diameter of the pot, > > > place them loosely in the pot and then tamp them > down (as opposed to > > > crushing them down into a very tight mass - that > would be > overdoing it). > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch a bit > of it to your lips. If > > > there is any stinging then, it is very likely > that the nursery used > > > malathion or another insecticide on the plant. > If that is the case, > > > discard the soup, although you may keep the > plant and again after a fw > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander plant > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it will > grow and grow over > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will do > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and while > buying the plant from > > > > the local nursery i think i touch the plant > with the wound and had a > > > > mild stinging haha > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 To be on the safe side, you should always keep the room well ventilated. You are, after all, boilng something that is highly tozic in raw form. oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote: > > Thanks, boiling it right now...just started > actually..is there any danger in inhaling the vapor > when bpiling? > > thx > > --- Tony wrote: > > > You do not fill to within two inches of the top of > > the pot - you fill > > to just cover the oleander. The two inches from the > > top of the pot is > > the measurement when you have enough oleander to > > almost fill the pot. > > > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged by the > > original amount of > > water it takes to just fill to the top of the > > oleander you use. > > > > Keep a close eye since you have a small volume of > > oleander - you will > > likely need to add water as time goes by to keep > > from having too much > > evaporate and scorching. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any pesticides..the > > dilemma is the > > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot from > > stainless steel.. > > > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i would > > assume the clippings > > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot ..and if i > > push them down it > > > will be even less.. do you want me still to fill > > up with 2 " inch from > > > the top? in that case the potency will probably > > drop due to ratio of > > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't make a > > difference and i still > > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in order to get > > most clippings and > > > kill the plant.. > > > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that there is > > no direct sunlight to > > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright still > > would that be an issue? > > > > > > these are the last questions and after im starting > > the process > > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison myself..i > > got lotsa coffe > > > filters + lots of paper towels and the plastic > > thingies to strain the > > > liquid threw heheh > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant and it > > should thrive with only > > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure to rinse > > the leaves and stems > > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too hard in > > the pot. Just clip > > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller than > > the diameter of the pot, > > > > place them loosely in the pot and then tamp them > > down (as opposed to > > > > crushing them down into a very tight mass - that > > would be > > overdoing it). > > > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch a bit > > of it to your lips. If > > > > there is any stinging then, it is very likely > > that the nursery used > > > > malathion or another insecticide on the plant. > > If that is the case, > > > > discard the soup, although you may keep the > > plant and again after a fw > > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander plant > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it will > > grow and grow over > > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will do > > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and while > > buying the plant from > > > > > the local nursery i think i touch the plant > > with the wound and had a > > > > > mild stinging haha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on TV. > http://tv./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 hehe well i opened the window i dont have a fan in my apt... --- Tony wrote: > To be on the safe side, you should always keep the > room well > ventilated. You are, after all, boilng something > that is highly tozic > in raw form. > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > <boystyle wrote: > > > > Thanks, boiling it right now...just started > > actually..is there any danger in inhaling the > vapor > > when bpiling? > > > > thx > > > > --- Tony wrote: > > > > > You do not fill to within two inches of the top > of > > > the pot - you fill > > > to just cover the oleander. The two inches from > the > > > top of the pot is > > > the measurement when you have enough oleander to > > > almost fill the pot. > > > > > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged by > the > > > original amount of > > > water it takes to just fill to the top of the > > > oleander you use. > > > > > > Keep a close eye since you have a small volume > of > > > oleander - you will > > > likely need to add water as time goes by to keep > > > from having too much > > > evaporate and scorching. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any > pesticides..the > > > dilemma is the > > > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot > from > > > stainless steel.. > > > > > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i > would > > > assume the clippings > > > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot ..and > if i > > > push them down it > > > > will be even less.. do you want me still to > fill > > > up with 2 " inch from > > > > the top? in that case the potency will > probably > > > drop due to ratio of > > > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't make a > > > difference and i still > > > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in order to > get > > > most clippings and > > > > kill the plant.. > > > > > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that there > is > > > no direct sunlight to > > > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright > still > > > would that be an issue? > > > > > > > > these are the last questions and after im > starting > > > the process > > > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison > myself..i > > > got lotsa coffe > > > > filters + lots of paper towels and the plastic > > > thingies to strain the > > > > liquid threw heheh > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " > > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant and > it > > > should thrive with only > > > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure to > rinse > > > the leaves and stems > > > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too > hard in > > > the pot. Just clip > > > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller > than > > > the diameter of the pot, > > > > > place them loosely in the pot and then tamp > them > > > down (as opposed to > > > > > crushing them down into a very tight mass - > that > > > would be > > > overdoing it). > > > > > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch a > bit > > > of it to your lips. If > > > > > there is any stinging then, it is very > likely > > > that the nursery used > > > > > malathion or another insecticide on the > plant. > > > If that is the case, > > > > > discard the soup, although you may keep the > > > plant and again after a fw > > > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > " boystyle " > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it > will > > > grow and grow over > > > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will > do > > > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and > while > > > buying the plant from > > > > > > the local nursery i think i touch the > plant > > > with the wound and had a > > > > > > mild stinging haha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? > Preview the > hottest shows on TV. > > http://tv./ > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 That is a good idea. If you have a vent-a-hood type fan on your stove, turn it on low too. oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote: > > hehe well i opened the window i dont have a fan in my > apt... > --- Tony wrote: > > > To be on the safe side, you should always keep the > > room well > > ventilated. You are, after all, boilng something > > that is highly tozic > > in raw form. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks, boiling it right now...just started > > > actually..is there any danger in inhaling the > > vapor > > > when bpiling? > > > > > > thx > > > > > > --- Tony @> wrote: > > > > > > > You do not fill to within two inches of the top > > of > > > > the pot - you fill > > > > to just cover the oleander. The two inches from > > the > > > > top of the pot is > > > > the measurement when you have enough oleander to > > > > almost fill the pot. > > > > > > > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged by > > the > > > > original amount of > > > > water it takes to just fill to the top of the > > > > oleander you use. > > > > > > > > Keep a close eye since you have a small volume > > of > > > > oleander - you will > > > > likely need to add water as time goes by to keep > > > > from having too much > > > > evaporate and scorching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any > > pesticides..the > > > > dilemma is the > > > > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot > > from > > > > stainless steel.. > > > > > > > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i > > would > > > > assume the clippings > > > > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot ..and > > if i > > > > push them down it > > > > > will be even less.. do you want me still to > > fill > > > > up with 2 " inch from > > > > > the top? in that case the potency will > > probably > > > > drop due to ratio of > > > > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't make a > > > > difference and i still > > > > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > > > > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in order to > > get > > > > most clippings and > > > > > kill the plant.. > > > > > > > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that there > > is > > > > no direct sunlight to > > > > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright > > still > > > > would that be an issue? > > > > > > > > > > these are the last questions and after im > > starting > > > > the process > > > > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison > > myself..i > > > > got lotsa coffe > > > > > filters + lots of paper towels and the plastic > > > > thingies to strain the > > > > > liquid threw heheh > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " > > > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant and > > it > > > > should thrive with only > > > > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure to > > rinse > > > > the leaves and stems > > > > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too > > hard in > > > > the pot. Just clip > > > > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller > > than > > > > the diameter of the pot, > > > > > > place them loosely in the pot and then tamp > > them > > > > down (as opposed to > > > > > > crushing them down into a very tight mass - > > that > > > > would be > > > > overdoing it). > > > > > > > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch a > > bit > > > > of it to your lips. If > > > > > > there is any stinging then, it is very > > likely > > > > that the nursery used > > > > > > malathion or another insecticide on the > > plant. > > > > If that is the case, > > > > > > discard the soup, although you may keep the > > > > plant and again after a fw > > > > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > > " boystyle " > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it > > will > > > > grow and grow over > > > > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will > > do > > > > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and > > while > > > > buying the plant from > > > > > > > the local nursery i think i touch the > > plant > > > > with the wound and had a > > > > > > > mild stinging haha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? > > Preview the > > hottest shows on TV. > > > http://tv./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on TV. > http://tv./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I think boiling breaks down that toxic chemical I guess thats why you say to boil for such a long time to " make sure " and than boil the liquid on its own without the plant..verses burning it... ishhhh I did some reading people who got poisoned had heart problems.. btw, you mention in your recipe its not recommended for people with heart problems..cant ppl with heart problems slowly adjust to the oleander starting slowly and very little dose? you noticed any changes with your heart? --- Tony wrote: > That is a good idea. If you have a vent-a-hood type > fan on your > stove, turn it on low too. > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > <boystyle wrote: > > > > hehe well i opened the window i dont have a fan in > my > > apt... > > --- Tony wrote: > > > > > To be on the safe side, you should always keep > the > > > room well > > > ventilated. You are, after all, boilng > something > > > that is highly tozic > > > in raw form. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks, boiling it right now...just started > > > > actually..is there any danger in inhaling the > > > vapor > > > > when bpiling? > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > --- Tony @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You do not fill to within two inches of the > top > > > of > > > > > the pot - you fill > > > > > to just cover the oleander. The two inches > from > > > the > > > > > top of the pot is > > > > > the measurement when you have enough > oleander to > > > > > almost fill the pot. > > > > > > > > > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged > by > > > the > > > > > original amount of > > > > > water it takes to just fill to the top of > the > > > > > oleander you use. > > > > > > > > > > Keep a close eye since you have a small > volume > > > of > > > > > oleander - you will > > > > > likely need to add water as time goes by to > keep > > > > > from having too much > > > > > evaporate and scorching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > " boystyle " > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any > > > pesticides..the > > > > > dilemma is the > > > > > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot > > > from > > > > > stainless steel.. > > > > > > > > > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i > > > would > > > > > assume the clippings > > > > > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot > ..and > > > if i > > > > > push them down it > > > > > > will be even less.. do you want me still > to > > > fill > > > > > up with 2 " inch from > > > > > > the top? in that case the potency will > > > probably > > > > > drop due to ratio of > > > > > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't > make a > > > > > difference and i still > > > > > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > > > > > > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in > order to > > > get > > > > > most clippings and > > > > > > kill the plant.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that > there > > > is > > > > > no direct sunlight to > > > > > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright > > > still > > > > > would that be an issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > these are the last questions and after im > > > starting > > > > > the process > > > > > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison > > > myself..i > > > > > got lotsa coffe > > > > > > filters + lots of paper towels and the > plastic > > > > > thingies to strain the > > > > > > liquid threw heheh > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > " Tony " > > > > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant > and > > > it > > > > > should thrive with only > > > > > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure > to > > > rinse > > > > > the leaves and stems > > > > > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too > > > hard in > > > > > the pot. Just clip > > > > > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller > > > than > > > > > the diameter of the pot, > > > > > > > place them loosely in the pot and then > tamp > > > them > > > > > down (as opposed to > > > > > > > crushing them down into a very tight > mass - > > > that > > > > > would be > > > > > overdoing it). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch > a > > > bit > > > > > of it to your lips. If > > > > > > > there is any stinging then, it is very > > > likely > > > > > that the nursery used > > > > > > > malathion or another insecticide on the > > > plant. > > > > > If that is the case, > > > > > > > discard the soup, although you may keep > the > > > > > plant and again after a fw > > > > > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the > leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > > > " boystyle " > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it > > > will > > > > > grow and grow over > > > > > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but > will > > > do > > > > > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger > and > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Globetrotter. 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Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Dont know what to think about this..found on Canadian gov website.. " About 10 hours after drinking tea made from leaves of Nerium oleander, a 30 year-old Los Angeles woman complained of nausea, a numb tongue and vomiting; she appeared confused. Upon admission to hospital, her pulse was weak, blood pressure was not palpable, respirations were 36/min., an electrocardiogram revealed an irregular heart beat. She later died; postmortem findings included pulmonary congestion and swelling and mild thickening of the arteries. The serum digoxin level was 6.4 mg [milligrams]/ml. Cause of death was reported as oleander intoxication. All parts of the oleander plant (leaves, stems, blossoms, seeds, sap, honey, and berries) contain cardiac glycosides including oleandrin, oleandroside, nerioside and digitoxigenin. Boiling or drying the plant does not inactivate the toxins. The plant also irritates mucus membranes in the mouth, causes a bitter taste, nausea, vomiting, increased salivation, abdominal pain, and diarrhea. Central nervous system reactions include altered mental status, visual disturbances, dilation of the pupil, painful, tender nerves and weakness. (Haynes) " --- Tony wrote: > That is a good idea. If you have a vent-a-hood type > fan on your > stove, turn it on low too. > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > <boystyle wrote: > > > > hehe well i opened the window i dont have a fan in > my > > apt... > > --- Tony wrote: > > > > > To be on the safe side, you should always keep > the > > > room well > > > ventilated. You are, after all, boilng > something > > > that is highly tozic > > > in raw form. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks, boiling it right now...just started > > > > actually..is there any danger in inhaling the > > > vapor > > > > when bpiling? > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > --- Tony @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You do not fill to within two inches of the > top > > > of > > > > > the pot - you fill > > > > > to just cover the oleander. The two inches > from > > > the > > > > > top of the pot is > > > > > the measurement when you have enough > oleander to > > > > > almost fill the pot. > > > > > > > > > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged > by > > > the > > > > > original amount of > > > > > water it takes to just fill to the top of > the > > > > > oleander you use. > > > > > > > > > > Keep a close eye since you have a small > volume > > > of > > > > > oleander - you will > > > > > likely need to add water as time goes by to > keep > > > > > from having too much > > > > > evaporate and scorching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > " boystyle " > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any > > > pesticides..the > > > > > dilemma is the > > > > > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot > > > from > > > > > stainless steel.. > > > > > > > > > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i > > > would > > > > > assume the clippings > > > > > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot > ..and > > > if i > > > > > push them down it > > > > > > will be even less.. do you want me still > to > > > fill > > > > > up with 2 " inch from > > > > > > the top? in that case the potency will > > > probably > > > > > drop due to ratio of > > > > > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't > make a > > > > > difference and i still > > > > > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > > > > > > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in > order to > > > get > > > > > most clippings and > > > > > > kill the plant.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that > there > > > is > > > > > no direct sunlight to > > > > > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright > > > still > > > > > would that be an issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > these are the last questions and after im > > > starting > > > > > the process > > > > > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison > > > myself..i > > > > > got lotsa coffe > > > > > > filters + lots of paper towels and the > plastic > > > > > thingies to strain the > > > > > > liquid threw heheh > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > " Tony " > > > > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant > and > > > it > > > > > should thrive with only > > > > > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure > to > > > rinse > > > > > the leaves and stems > > > > > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too > > > hard in > > > > > the pot. Just clip > > > > > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller > > > than > > > > > the diameter of the pot, > > > > > > > place them loosely in the pot and then > tamp > > > them > > > > > down (as opposed to > > > > > > > crushing them down into a very tight > mass - > > > that > > > > > would be > > > > > overdoing it). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch > a > > > bit > > > > > of it to your lips. If > > > > > > > there is any stinging then, it is very > > > likely > > > > > that the nursery used > > > > > > > malathion or another insecticide on the > > > plant. > > > > > If that is the case, > > > > > > > discard the soup, although you may keep > the > > > > > plant and again after a fw > > > > > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the > leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > > > " boystyle " > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it > > > will > > > > > grow and grow over > > > > > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but > will > > > do > > > > > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger > and > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? 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Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I use 100gm by weight of oleander leaves per 1 liter of water. Marc - boystyle oleander soup Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:06 PM Re: New oleander bush Great, he told he didn't use any pesticides..the dilemma is thefollowing, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot from stainless steel..as you seen my plant is not that big, so i would assume the clippingswouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot ..and if i push them down itwill be even less.. do you want me still to fill up with 2" inch fromthe top? in that case the potency will probably drop due to ratio ofthe clippings to water... or it doesn't make a difference and i stillfill it up as on the recipe? See i don't wanna clip it too much in order to get most clippings andkill the plant..Now another issue, I just realised that there is no direct sunlight tomy balcony/window.. but its pretty bright still would that be an issue?these are the last questions and after im starting the processits my b day today I hope i wont poison myself..i got lotsa coffefilters + lots of paper towels and the plastic thingies to strain theliquid threw heheh oleander soup , "Tony" wrote:>> It looks like a fine and healthy plant and it should thrive with only> cutting back 6" from the tips. Be sure to rinse the leaves and stems> when you clip them.> > Also, do not pack the plant material too hard in the pot. Just clip> the leaves and stems so they are smaller than the diameter of the pot,> place them loosely in the pot and then tamp them down (as opposed to> crushing them down into a very tight mass - that would be overdoing it).> > When you finish making your soup - touch a bit of it to your lips. If> there is any stinging then, it is very likely that the nursery used> malathion or another insecticide on the plant. If that is the case,> discard the soup, although you may keep the plant and again after a fw> weeks of watering and rinsing the leaves.> > Tony> > oleander soup , "boystyle" <boystyle@> wrote:> >> > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander plant > > > > I wanted to show it to you...> > > > so as long as i cut 6" from(the tip)it will grow and grow over again?> > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but will do for a small soup right?> > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg> > > > Thanks> > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger and while buying the plant from> > the local nursery i think i touch the plant with the wound and had a> > mild stinging haha> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Hello again, The process seems to be done, Firstly I did 4 hours and it went down to 60% and I repeated without the clippings and got now around 30%, is it normal to see white paste all over the soup? on the top floating...?? --- Tony wrote: > That is a good idea. If you have a vent-a-hood type > fan on your > stove, turn it on low too. > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > <boystyle wrote: > > > > hehe well i opened the window i dont have a fan in > my > > apt... > > --- Tony wrote: > > > > > To be on the safe side, you should always keep > the > > > room well > > > ventilated. You are, after all, boilng > something > > > that is highly tozic > > > in raw form. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks, boiling it right now...just started > > > > actually..is there any danger in inhaling the > > > vapor > > > > when bpiling? > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > --- Tony @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You do not fill to within two inches of the > top > > > of > > > > > the pot - you fill > > > > > to just cover the oleander. The two inches > from > > > the > > > > > top of the pot is > > > > > the measurement when you have enough > oleander to > > > > > almost fill the pot. > > > > > > > > > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged > by > > > the > > > > > original amount of > > > > > water it takes to just fill to the top of > the > > > > > oleander you use. > > > > > > > > > > Keep a close eye since you have a small > volume > > > of > > > > > oleander - you will > > > > > likely need to add water as time goes by to > keep > > > > > from having too much > > > > > evaporate and scorching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > " boystyle " > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any > > > pesticides..the > > > > > dilemma is the > > > > > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot > > > from > > > > > stainless steel.. > > > > > > > > > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i > > > would > > > > > assume the clippings > > > > > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot > ..and > > > if i > > > > > push them down it > > > > > > will be even less.. do you want me still > to > > > fill > > > > > up with 2 " inch from > > > > > > the top? in that case the potency will > > > probably > > > > > drop due to ratio of > > > > > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't > make a > > > > > difference and i still > > > > > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > > > > > > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in > order to > > > get > > > > > most clippings and > > > > > > kill the plant.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that > there > > > is > > > > > no direct sunlight to > > > > > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright > > > still > > > > > would that be an issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > these are the last questions and after im > > > starting > > > > > the process > > > > > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison > > > myself..i > > > > > got lotsa coffe > > > > > > filters + lots of paper towels and the > plastic > > > > > thingies to strain the > > > > > > liquid threw heheh > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > " Tony " > > > > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant > and > > > it > > > > > should thrive with only > > > > > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure > to > > > rinse > > > > > the leaves and stems > > > > > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too > > > hard in > > > > > the pot. Just clip > > > > > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller > > > than > > > > > the diameter of the pot, > > > > > > > place them loosely in the pot and then > tamp > > > them > > > > > down (as opposed to > > > > > > > crushing them down into a very tight > mass - > > > that > > > > > would be > > > > > overdoing it). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch > a > > > bit > > > > > of it to your lips. If > > > > > > > there is any stinging then, it is very > > > likely > > > > > that the nursery used > > > > > > > malathion or another insecticide on the > > > plant. > > > > > If that is the case, > > > > > > > discard the soup, although you may keep > the > > > > > plant and again after a fw > > > > > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the > leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > > > " boystyle " > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it > > > will > > > > > grow and grow over > > > > > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but > will > > > do > > > > > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger > and > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. 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Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Good morning Tony! Ok, after long hours of boiling... 4 hours than removed the clippings than another 3 hours and now I have 30% left.. Its cooling right now but whatever is inside the pot looks kinda scary...I didnt filter it yet... I have a picture here..does this look right? http://www.imageupload.ca7ju65rpmyczb31g2nxpf.jpg Thanks! I know you are prolly sick of me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Sounds right to me. There is a big difference between steeping oleander for several minutes and drinking it all down and boiling it for 7 hours and carefully filtering it, mixing-it 50-50 with acv or vodka and then beginning with 1/4 teaspoons doses. Peopla and animals who eat raw oleander or drink water oleander has soaked in can die. People who use properly made oleander soup can improve their health and even save their lives. The decision to do so is an individual one. Everything I write is for informational purposes to help them make such a decision and guide them in the process if they do. I take it myself - and I take at least the maximum amount when I do. Worst thing that has happened to me is occasional loose stools. oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote: > > Dont know what to think about this..found on Canadian > gov website.. > > " About 10 hours after drinking tea made from leaves of > Nerium oleander, a 30 year-old Los Angeles woman > complained of nausea, a numb tongue and vomiting; she > appeared confused. Upon admission to hospital, her > pulse was weak, blood pressure was not palpable, > respirations were 36/min., an electrocardiogram > revealed an irregular heart beat. She later died; > postmortem findings included pulmonary congestion and > swelling and mild thickening of the arteries. The > serum digoxin level was 6.4 mg [milligrams]/ml. Cause > of death was reported as oleander intoxication. All > parts of the oleander plant (leaves, stems, blossoms, > seeds, sap, honey, and berries) contain cardiac > glycosides including oleandrin, oleandroside, > nerioside and digitoxigenin. Boiling or drying the > plant does not inactivate the toxins. The plant also > irritates mucus membranes in the mouth, causes a > bitter taste, nausea, vomiting, increased salivation, > abdominal pain, and diarrhea. Central nervous system > reactions include altered mental status, visual > disturbances, dilation of the pupil, painful, tender > nerves and weakness. (Haynes) " > > --- Tony wrote: > > > That is a good idea. If you have a vent-a-hood type > > fan on your > > stove, turn it on low too. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > hehe well i opened the window i dont have a fan in > > my > > > apt... > > > --- Tony @> wrote: > > > > > > > To be on the safe side, you should always keep > > the > > > > room well > > > > ventilated. You are, after all, boilng > > something > > > > that is highly tozic > > > > in raw form. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , --- --- > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, boiling it right now...just started > > > > > actually..is there any danger in inhaling the > > > > vapor > > > > > when bpiling? > > > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > > > --- Tony @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You do not fill to within two inches of the > > top > > > > of > > > > > > the pot - you fill > > > > > > to just cover the oleander. The two inches > > from > > > > the > > > > > > top of the pot is > > > > > > the measurement when you have enough > > oleander to > > > > > > almost fill the pot. > > > > > > > > > > > > All water volumes in the recipe are judged > > by > > > > the > > > > > > original amount of > > > > > > water it takes to just fill to the top of > > the > > > > > > oleander you use. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep a close eye since you have a small > > volume > > > > of > > > > > > oleander - you will > > > > > > likely need to add water as time goes by to > > keep > > > > > > from having too much > > > > > > evaporate and scorching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > > " boystyle " > > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great, he told he didn't use any > > > > pesticides..the > > > > > > dilemma is the > > > > > > > following, in walmart i got a 12 quart pot > > > > from > > > > > > stainless steel.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you seen my plant is not that big, so i > > > > would > > > > > > assume the clippings > > > > > > > wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the pot > > ..and > > > > if i > > > > > > push them down it > > > > > > > will be even less.. do you want me still > > to > > > > fill > > > > > > up with 2 " inch from > > > > > > > the top? in that case the potency will > > > > probably > > > > > > drop due to ratio of > > > > > > > the clippings to water... or it doesn't > > make a > > > > > > difference and i still > > > > > > > fill it up as on the recipe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See i don't wanna clip it too much in > > order to > > > > get > > > > > > most clippings and > > > > > > > kill the plant.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now another issue, I just realised that > > there > > > > is > > > > > > no direct sunlight to > > > > > > > my balcony/window.. but its pretty bright > > > > still > > > > > > would that be an issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these are the last questions and after im > > > > starting > > > > > > the process > > > > > > > its my b day today I hope i wont poison > > > > myself..i > > > > > > got lotsa coffe > > > > > > > filters + lots of paper towels and the > > plastic > > > > > > thingies to strain the > > > > > > > liquid threw heheh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > > " Tony " > > > > > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a fine and healthy plant > > and > > > > it > > > > > > should thrive with only > > > > > > > > cutting back 6 " from the tips. Be sure > > to > > > > rinse > > > > > > the leaves and stems > > > > > > > > when you clip them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, do not pack the plant material too > > > > hard in > > > > > > the pot. Just clip > > > > > > > > the leaves and stems so they are smaller > > > > than > > > > > > the diameter of the pot, > > > > > > > > place them loosely in the pot and then > > tamp > > > > them > > > > > > down (as opposed to > > > > > > > > crushing them down into a very tight > > mass - > > > > that > > > > > > would be > > > > > > overdoing it). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you finish making your soup - touch > > a > > > > bit > > > > > > of it to your lips. If > > > > > > > > there is any stinging then, it is very > > > > likely > > > > > > that the nursery used > > > > > > > > malathion or another insecticide on the > > > > plant. > > > > > > If that is the case, > > > > > > > > discard the soup, although you may keep > > the > > > > > > plant and again after a fw > > > > > > > > weeks of watering and rinsing the > > leaves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , > > > > " boystyle " > > > > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I finally acquired the oleander > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to show it to you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so as long as i cut 6 " from(the tip)it > > > > will > > > > > > grow and grow over > > > > > > again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heres the plant..its still small but > > will > > > > do > > > > > > for a small soup right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://imageupload.cao2adwimsepubgll6xv2p.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I had a small cut on the finger > > and > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Need a vacation? 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