Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 For all of you looking for oleander bushes, Tony is right. Do some research for yourself!! I did a google search and it listed 4,000 sources for mailing Oleander bushes. The FDA is vicious!. They are trying to drive out a very harmless sweetner STEVa and leave the sugar diabities one in place Also the other chemical sweetners as the drug money is there. Also the FDA has Anziviral restricted to Nicragara where it is @ $15,000 a treatmeny . It cured Aids and Cancer before the FDA banned it and started their own tests. Bill Wilkins - Tony oleander soup Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:01 PM Re: [oleander soup] Keeping it simple and being complete - a fine balance That is not something that I can afford to become involved with - Ialready have too much visibility due to my articles, books and forumposts.However, there was someone at one time who knew a guy who would mailclippings. That should be perfectly OK to do, since one is merelysending raw plant materials for unspecified reasons.And there might be others willing to help privately. I will leave thequestion out there and hope all works out ok for you.Tonyoleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote:>> Hello, > Thanks for a lot of informative information, I guess> most people on this community are using the Oleander> soup correct?> > Tony, I would like to know if there is anyone here> that could mail me a bag of leafs for one batch and I> will use paypal in order to pay them for the leafs +> shipping to Canada, they could specify its a herbal> tea...or whatever, I would only require a 1 time> shipment because my Oleander seeds are already planted> and from the soup that I will make(hopefully someone> is willing to send me some leafs or branches ) will> last me till they grow..> > Would anyone please help me out with some leafs? I> will be very thankful, and just like I said it would> be a one time thingie..> > Thanks everyone> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 You can buy Stevia at many local nurseries - the one in Memphis, TN had plants last year. Stevia is even easier to reduce to simple syrup than oleander;-) The new packaged Stevia that is coming to groceries stores near you (Albertson's, etc - reported by News Target.com) will have maltodextrin and an undisclosed 'special' ingredient to " hide " the bitter aftertaste of Stevia, something that has never bothered me. Guess we will need to go self-sufficient sooner rather than later. This is something that I always knew would happen, sort of Ann Ryan and George Orwell rolled into one, big business sufficates the world and parts of the world drop out or at least off the grid lines - Matrix Revisited. I for one intend to put together what I need and do it myself, Big Pharma be damned. Janna -------------- Original message ---------------------- " bill Wilkins " <w.wilkins > > For all of you looking for oleander bushes, > Tony is right. Do some research for yourself!! I did a google search and it > listed 4,000 sources for mailing Oleander bushes. The FDA is vicious!. They are > trying to drive out a very harmless sweetner STEVa and leave the sugar diabities > one in place > Also the other chemical sweetners as the drug money is there. > Also the FDA has Anziviral restricted to Nicragara where it is @ $15,000 a > treatmeny . It cured Aids and Cancer before the FDA banned it and started their > own tests. > Bill Wilkins > > - > > oleander soup > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:01 PM > Re: [oleander soup] Keeping it simple and being > complete - a fine balance > > > That is not something that I can afford to become involved with - I > already have too much visibility due to my articles, books and forum > posts. > > However, there was someone at one time who knew a guy who would mail > clippings. That should be perfectly OK to do, since one is merely > sending raw plant materials for unspecified reasons. > > And there might be others willing to help privately. I will leave the > question out there and hope all works out ok for you. > > > > oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote: > > > > Hello, > > Thanks for a lot of informative information, I guess > > most people on this community are using the Oleander > > soup correct? > > > > Tony, I would like to know if there is anyone here > > that could mail me a bag of leafs for one batch and I > > will use paypal in order to pay them for the leafs + > > shipping to Canada, they could specify its a herbal > > tea...or whatever, I would only require a 1 time > > shipment because my Oleander seeds are already planted > > and from the soup that I will make(hopefully someone > > is willing to send me some leafs or branches ) will > > last me till they grow.. > > > > Would anyone please help me out with some leafs? I > > will be very thankful, and just like I said it would > > be a one time thingie.. > > > > Thanks everyone > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Thanks, Do you have a processing menu for making STEVA? Bill - cr8iveart oleander soup Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:58 AM Re: Buying your own olender bush You can buy Stevia at many local nurseries - the one in Memphis, TN had plants last year. Stevia is even easier to reduce to simple syrup than oleander;-) The new packaged Stevia that is coming to groceries stores near you (Albertson's, etc - reported by News Target.com) will have maltodextrin and an undisclosed 'special' ingredient to "hide" the bitter aftertaste of Stevia, something that has never bothered me. Guess we will need to go self-sufficient sooner rather than later. This is something that I always knew would happen, sort of Ann Ryan and George Orwell rolled into one, big business sufficates the world and parts of the world drop out or at least off the grid lines - Matrix Revisited. I for one intend to put together what I need and do it myself, Big Pharma be damned. Janna-------------- Original message ----------------------"bill Wilkins" <w.wilkins (AT) comcast (DOT) net>>> For all of you looking for oleander bushes,> Tony is right. Do some research for yourself!! I did a google search and it > listed 4,000 sources for mailing Oleander bushes. The FDA is vicious!. They are > trying to drive out a very harmless sweetner STEVa and leave the sugar diabities > one in place> Also the other chemical sweetners as the drug money is there. > Also the FDA has Anziviral restricted to Nicragara where it is @ $15,000 a > treatmeny . It cured Aids and Cancer before the FDA banned it and started their > own tests.> Bill Wilkins> > - > Tony > oleander soup > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:01 PM> Re: [oleander soup] Keeping it simple and being > complete - a fine balance> > > That is not something that I can afford to become involved with - I> already have too much visibility due to my articles, books and forum> posts.> > However, there was someone at one time who knew a guy who would mail> clippings. That should be perfectly OK to do, since one is merely> sending raw plant materials for unspecified reasons.> > And there might be others willing to help privately. I will leave the> question out there and hope all works out ok for you.> > Tony> > oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote:> >> > Hello, > > Thanks for a lot of informative information, I guess> > most people on this community are using the Oleander> > soup correct?> > > > Tony, I would like to know if there is anyone here> > that could mail me a bag of leafs for one batch and I> > will use paypal in order to pay them for the leafs +> > shipping to Canada, they could specify its a herbal> > tea...or whatever, I would only require a 1 time> > shipment because my Oleander seeds are already planted> > and from the soup that I will make(hopefully someone> > is willing to send me some leafs or branches ) will> > last me till they grow..> > > > Would anyone please help me out with some leafs? I> > will be very thankful, and just like I said it would> > be a one time thingie..> > > > Thanks everyone> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Anvirzel is available in the United States from Honduras via FDA exception rule. It costs about $2700 for three months supply and readers of this forum get a 10% discount by virtue of my friendship with the president of the company which makes Anvirzel and which owns the Salud Integral facility in Hondura, Phoenix Biotech. We worked together many hours to expose a fake oleander drug scam from a felon and company that had it in for both of us. Anvirzel has been successful against a great many cancers, and has been used to halt and reverse AIDS symptoms, but I would not say that it has actually cured AIDS. The dietary supplement Sutherlandia OPC is having tremendous success against AIDS in South Africa and has been for the past 3 years. According to the American Cancer Society website, supplimates containing oleander may legally sold in the US. contain It was actually Ozelle Pharmaceuticals, the first makers of Anvizel after DR. Ozel himself, who put Anvirzel into FDA trials. After the successful phase I toxicity trials, internal squabbles and lack of funding left Ozelle pharmaceuticals pretty much dead in the water. oleander soup , " bill Wilkins " <w.wilkins wrote: > > For all of you looking for oleander bushes, > Tony is right. Do some research for yourself!! I did a google search and it listed 4,000 sources for mailing Oleander bushes. The FDA is vicious!. They are trying to drive out a very harmless sweetner STEVa and leave the sugar diabities one in place > Also the other chemical sweetners as the drug money is there. > Also the FDA has Anziviral restricted to Nicragara where it is @ $15,000 a treatmeny . It cured Aids and Cancer before the FDA banned it and started their own tests. > Bill Wilkins > > - > > oleander soup > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:01 PM > Re: [oleander soup] Keeping it simple and being complete - a fine balance > > > That is not something that I can afford to become involved with - I > already have too much visibility due to my articles, books and forum > posts. > > However, there was someone at one time who knew a guy who would mail > clippings. That should be perfectly OK to do, since one is merely > sending raw plant materials for unspecified reasons. > > And there might be others willing to help privately. I will leave the > question out there and hope all works out ok for you. > > > > oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > Thanks for a lot of informative information, I guess > > most people on this community are using the Oleander > > soup correct? > > > > Tony, I would like to know if there is anyone here > > that could mail me a bag of leafs for one batch and I > > will use paypal in order to pay them for the leafs + > > shipping to Canada, they could specify its a herbal > > tea...or whatever, I would only require a 1 time > > shipment because my Oleander seeds are already planted > > and from the soup that I will make(hopefully someone > > is willing to send me some leafs or branches ) will > > last me till they grow.. > > > > Would anyone please help me out with some leafs? I > > will be very thankful, and just like I said it would > > be a one time thingie.. > > > > Thanks everyone > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Yes, this web site is great. http://www.stevia.net/recipes.htm really good web site Janna -------------- Original message ---------------------- " bill Wilkins " <w.wilkins > > Thanks, > Do you have a processing menu for making STEVA? > Bill > - > cr8iveart > oleander soup > Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:58 AM > Re: Buying your own olender bush > > > You can buy Stevia at many local nurseries - the one in Memphis, TN had plants > last year. Stevia is even easier to reduce to simple syrup than oleander;-) The > new packaged Stevia that is coming to groceries stores near you (Albertson's, > etc - reported by News Target.com) will have maltodextrin and an undisclosed > 'special' ingredient to " hide " the bitter aftertaste of Stevia, something that > has never bothered me. Guess we will need to go self-sufficient sooner rather > than later. This is something that I always knew would happen, sort of Ann Ryan > and George Orwell rolled into one, big business sufficates the world and parts > of the world drop out or at least off the grid lines - Matrix Revisited. I for > one intend to put together what I need and do it myself, Big Pharma be damned. > Janna > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " bill Wilkins " <w.wilkins > > > > For all of you looking for oleander bushes, > > Tony is right. Do some research for yourself!! I did a google search and it > > listed 4,000 sources for mailing Oleander bushes. The FDA is vicious!. They > are > > trying to drive out a very harmless sweetner STEVa and leave the sugar > diabities > > one in place > > Also the other chemical sweetners as the drug money is there. > > Also the FDA has Anziviral restricted to Nicragara where it is @ $15,000 a > > treatmeny . It cured Aids and Cancer before the FDA banned it and started > their > > own tests. > > Bill Wilkins > > > > - > > > > oleander soup > > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:01 PM > > Re: [oleander soup] Keeping it simple and being > > complete - a fine balance > > > > > > That is not something that I can afford to become involved with - I > > already have too much visibility due to my articles, books and forum > > posts. > > > > However, there was someone at one time who knew a guy who would mail > > clippings. That should be perfectly OK to do, since one is merely > > sending raw plant materials for unspecified reasons. > > > > And there might be others willing to help privately. I will leave the > > question out there and hope all works out ok for you. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > Thanks for a lot of informative information, I guess > > > most people on this community are using the Oleander > > > soup correct? > > > > > > Tony, I would like to know if there is anyone here > > > that could mail me a bag of leafs for one batch and I > > > will use paypal in order to pay them for the leafs + > > > shipping to Canada, they could specify its a herbal > > > tea...or whatever, I would only require a 1 time > > > shipment because my Oleander seeds are already planted > > > and from the soup that I will make(hopefully someone > > > is willing to send me some leafs or branches ) will > > > last me till they grow.. > > > > > > Would anyone please help me out with some leafs? I > > > will be very thankful, and just like I said it would > > > be a one time thingie.. > > > > > > Thanks everyone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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