Keeping it simple and being complete - a fine balance

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Thanks for the input David. I have not studied dousing, other than to

know that it works for finding water - but perhaps I should look into

it. Certainly oleander and essaic are two items I like (although I

like essaic primarily for it's cleansing ability and as an item to use

in combination with other supplements as opposed to a single

supplement for cancer). I am not as familiar with wormwood or

cellular ziolite, but I will look into them too.

 

There is much to be said for keeping it simple. As you say, and as I

have often written, too much information can be confusing and too many

supplement items run the risk of including ones which counter-act one

another or which do too much of the same thing.

 

Even so, I think the list of essentials is a fair sized one. The key

is knowing which ones work well together - a subject of much of my

current and future research.

 

" vitamin c, a good enzyme product, alpha lipoic acid, spirulina and

other superfoods, vitamin d3, msn, coenzyme q10, apple cider vinegar

or baking soda " is a good group indeed, imo.

 

I would also add iodine, colloidal silver and gold, calcium,

magnesium, zinc, potassium, trace minerals, selenium, flaxseed oil and

yogurt, bromelain and possibly milk thistle. Perhaps turmeric. I

consider all of those to be very important. And most of you are aware

of my very high regards for inositol/IP6 as well.

 

Between your list and mine, I take everything right now - without

having cancer - except wormwood, cellular zeolite, essaic, and msn. I

also take cats claw, glucosamine/chondroitin, cinnamon, grapeseed

extract, and a multi-vitamin. And I make sure to eat plenty of dark

green vegetables (primarily baby spinach leaves), tomatoes, red grapes

seeds and all, pomegranate juice, and lots of other raw vegetables and

fruits.

 

I also live as stress free as possible, get plenty of sunshine, some

exercise and drink plenty of good water that is free of flouride and

usually free of chlorine too.

 

That is a big list, I know, (and I probably left something out - lol)

but what I take seems to work well together - and makes up for all the

fudges I do (which I would not do if I had cancer). If I find that I

have erred, I will be sure to let everyone know.

 

We have a group of people, as you say, who know a lot about natural

health and supplements here - and many members who want to help and

share. As forum mod, it is my job to try to point out the information

I believe might questionable or might not fit in with the things that

I recommend.

 

I appreciate everyone sharing and I think you for adding your valuable

two cents. More like gold nuggets, I would say.

 

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

 

Tony Isaacs

 

 

 

oleander soup , david phelan <dmpltd2003 wrote:

>

> Hi > Just thought I would offer my 2 cents worth,I have been a member

of the group for quite a while now,but have never really contributed

as I felt you had covered most of the important stuff better than most

people could, and most of this information I had compiled myself over

a period of 10 years or so.

> The problems I can see now is that too much conflicting

information is as bad as too little.

> I feel the best way to tackle any problem is to keep it as simple

as possible,while I understand that their are certain horses for

certain courses and what works for some does'nt always work for others

it must be very confusing to a lot of people to see the array of

products being suggested.

> I fully understand that they are offered with the best of

intentions,but I think most people are better keeping it simple and

sticking to products that have the best known successes.

> Any person that is a member of this group probably already know

the basics and importance of certain diets and alkalinity of the

body.Once they have sorted this they are on the first rung of the ladder.

> I have come in contact with quite a few people with

cancer,including my wife and a good few members of both our families,

friends and aquaintances and feel from experience that most cancers

are curable if caught in time and if the person has the right frame of

mind to stick to a certain regime.

> I can say also from experiences that radio therapy and chemo are

useless in most cases as the cancer mostly tends to return with more

vigor.

> we have used dousing to Identify cancers in individuals and also

to Identify the best natural products to defeat it,whether you believe

in this phenomenon is a matter of choice,but I will list the best

possible defenders we have identified which you have covered over the

years.

>

> (oleander) (wormwood) (cellular zeolite) (essiac)

>

> These are just some of the products we have doused that are the

most effective,but they were doused with particular people in

mind,therefore I can not say they are the best for every one.

> Which ever of these products a person chooses,combined with

vitamin c, a good enzyme product,alpha lipoic acid,spirulina and other

superfoods,vitamin d3,msn,coenzyme q10,

> apple cider vinegar or baking soda they have a very potent mixture

to fight thier cancer and most viral illness.

> I hope this may be of help to some.

>

> kind regards

> David

>

>

> Tony wrote:

> Yes, it really is necessary to condense the liquid way,

way down to

> use in skin creme. And it takes quite a lot of liquid to condense

> down to a syrupy consistency.

>

> Go too weak and you will have little hope on the moles.

>

> >

> oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote:

> >

> > Another question, lets say I make the soup.. can i take 1/10 of that

> > liquid and mix it with aloe cream? I want to remove couple of moles..

> >

> > and the rest 9/10 of the mixture I will mix with alcohol and

> > drink..would that be good or is it really necessary to condense the

> > liquid to make the cream? I dont feel like doing it 2 times hehe

> >

> > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote:

> > >

> > > So you dont think I will have a small plant within a month or

two that

> > > I could make some soup? a few months supply soup? I am in Canada I

> > > dont know where to buy the plant over here, Montreal, Quebec..

> > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Oleander is not a vegetable like a tomato plant or lettuce

that you

> > > > can plant from seed and harvest much of only months later. I would

> > > > say you are looking at a couple of years time to have plants

of any

> > > > size, since oleander is a moderately fast grower that will grow

> up to

> > > > or so a couple of feet per year, depending upon soil, climate,

etc.

> > > >

> > > > Your best bet would be to buy plants in 5 gallon containers

from an

> > > > organic nursery like Rhodes Nursery listed in my book. Buy

> enough of

> > > > those and you can harvest some right away and leave enough

> growth for

> > > > the plants to continue to grow and flourish.

> > > >

> > > > You will ultimately need some pretty sizable pots to grow

> oleander in

> > > > containers.

> > > >

> > > > www.beorganic.com/

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just received a pack of 20 today, and I planted 8 of them in

> a big

> > > > > jar, should it be enough?

> > > > >

> > > > > Do they grow fast? How long till I could make myself a small

> > soup?

> > > > >

> > > > > I decided in getting the seeds because I couldnt find an organic

> > > > > nursery, and I dont trust walmart or homedepot ..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thankies

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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