Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Yes, it really is necessary to condense the liquid way, way down to use in skin creme. And it takes quite a lot of liquid to condense down to a syrupy consistency. Go too weak and you will have little hope on the moles. oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle wrote: > > Another question, lets say I make the soup.. can i take 1/10 of that > liquid and mix it with aloe cream? I want to remove couple of moles.. > > and the rest 9/10 of the mixture I will mix with alcohol and > drink..would that be good or is it really necessary to condense the > liquid to make the cream? I dont feel like doing it 2 times hehe > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > So you dont think I will have a small plant within a month or two that > > I could make some soup? a few months supply soup? I am in Canada I > > dont know where to buy the plant over here, Montreal, Quebec.. > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > > > > > > Oleander is not a vegetable like a tomato plant or lettuce that you > > > can plant from seed and harvest much of only months later. I would > > > say you are looking at a couple of years time to have plants of any > > > size, since oleander is a moderately fast grower that will grow up to > > > or so a couple of feet per year, depending upon soil, climate, etc. > > > > > > Your best bet would be to buy plants in 5 gallon containers from an > > > organic nursery like Rhodes Nursery listed in my book. Buy enough of > > > those and you can harvest some right away and leave enough growth for > > > the plants to continue to grow and flourish. > > > > > > You will ultimately need some pretty sizable pots to grow oleander in > > > containers. > > > > > > www.beorganic.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I just received a pack of 20 today, and I planted 8 of them in a big > > > > jar, should it be enough? > > > > > > > > Do they grow fast? How long till I could make myself a small > soup? > > > > > > > > I decided in getting the seeds because I couldnt find an organic > > > > nursery, and I dont trust walmart or homedepot .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankies > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Ok, thanks I will try that and will try to contact that nursery to see how much they will charge me to ship it to canada, Have you had any experience with mole removal ? does it take a lot of time like the castor oil way? heheh I heard good things about cansemal, but I also heard it leaves holes in your skin :S oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > Yes, it really is necessary to condense the liquid way, way down to > use in skin creme. And it takes quite a lot of liquid to condense > down to a syrupy consistency. > > Go too weak and you will have little hope on the moles. > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > Another question, lets say I make the soup.. can i take 1/10 of that > > liquid and mix it with aloe cream? I want to remove couple of moles.. > > > > and the rest 9/10 of the mixture I will mix with alcohol and > > drink..would that be good or is it really necessary to condense the > > liquid to make the cream? I dont feel like doing it 2 times hehe > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > So you dont think I will have a small plant within a month or two that > > > I could make some soup? a few months supply soup? I am in Canada I > > > dont know where to buy the plant over here, Montreal, Quebec.. > > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oleander is not a vegetable like a tomato plant or lettuce that you > > > > can plant from seed and harvest much of only months later. I would > > > > say you are looking at a couple of years time to have plants of any > > > > size, since oleander is a moderately fast grower that will grow > up to > > > > or so a couple of feet per year, depending upon soil, climate, etc. > > > > > > > > Your best bet would be to buy plants in 5 gallon containers from an > > > > organic nursery like Rhodes Nursery listed in my book. Buy > enough of > > > > those and you can harvest some right away and leave enough > growth for > > > > the plants to continue to grow and flourish. > > > > > > > > You will ultimately need some pretty sizable pots to grow > oleander in > > > > containers. > > > > > > > > www.beorganic.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I just received a pack of 20 today, and I planted 8 of them in > a big > > > > > jar, should it be enough? > > > > > > > > > > Do they grow fast? How long till I could make myself a small > > soup? > > > > > > > > > > I decided in getting the seeds because I couldnt find an organic > > > > > nursery, and I dont trust walmart or homedepot .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Hi Tony Just thought I would offer my 2 cents worth,I have been a member of the group for quite a while now,but have never really contributed as I felt you had covered most of the important stuff better than most people could, and most of this information I had compiled myself over a period of 10 years or so. The problems I can see now is that too much conflicting information is as bad as too little. I feel the best way to tackle any problem is to keep it as simple as possible,while I understand that their are certain horses for certain courses and what works for some does'nt always work for others it must be very confusing to a lot of people to see the array of products being suggested. I fully understand that they are offered with the best of intentions,but I think most people are better keeping it simple and sticking to products that have the best known successes. Any person that is a member of this group probably already know the basics and importance of certain diets and alkalinity of the body.Once they have sorted this they are on the first rung of the ladder. I have come in contact with quite a few people with cancer,including my wife and a good few members of both our families, friends and aquaintances and feel from experience that most cancers are curable if caught in time and if the person has the right frame of mind to stick to a certain regime. I can say also from experiences that radio therapy and chemo are useless in most cases as the cancer mostly tends to return with more vigor. we have used dousing to Identify cancers in individuals and also to Identify the best natural products to defeat it,whether you believe in this phenomenon is a matter of choice,but I will list the best possible defenders we have identified which you have covered over the years. (oleander) (wormwood) (cellular zeolite) (essiac) These are just some of the products we have doused that are the most effective,but they were doused with particular people in mind,therefore I can not say they are the best for every one. Which ever of these products a person chooses,combined with vitamin c, a good enzyme product,alpha lipoic acid,spirulina and other superfoods,vitamin d3,msn,coenzyme q10, apple cider vinegar or baking soda they have a very potent mixture to fight thier cancer and most viral illness. I hope this may be of help to some. kind regards David Tony wrote: Yes, it really is necessary to condense the liquid way, way down touse in skin creme. And it takes quite a lot of liquid to condensedown to a syrupy consistency.Go too weak and you will have little hope on the moles.Tony oleander soup , "boystyle" <boystyle wrote:>> Another question, lets say I make the soup.. can i take 1/10 of that> liquid and mix it with aloe cream? I want to remove couple of moles..> > and the rest 9/10 of the mixture I will mix with alcohol and> drink..would that be good or is it really necessary to condense the> liquid to make the cream? I dont feel like doing it 2 times hehe > > oleander soup , "boystyle" <boystyle@> wrote:> >> > So you dont think I will have a small plant within a month or two that> > I could make some soup? a few months supply soup? I am in Canada I> > dont know where to buy the plant over here, Montreal, Quebec..> > oleander soup , "Tony" @> wrote:> > >> > > Oleander is not a vegetable like a tomato plant or lettuce that you> > > can plant from seed and harvest much of only months later. I would> > > say you are looking at a couple of years time to have plants of any> > > size, since oleander is a moderately fast grower that will growup to> > > or so a couple of feet per year, depending upon soil, climate, etc.> > > > > > Your best bet would be to buy plants in 5 gallon containers from an> > > organic nursery like Rhodes Nursery listed in my book. Buyenough of> > > those and you can harvest some right away and leave enoughgrowth for> > > the plants to continue to grow and flourish.> > > > > > You will ultimately need some pretty sizable pots to growoleander in> > > containers.> > > > > > www.beorganic.com/> > > > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "boystyle" <boystyle@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello,> > > > > > > > I just received a pack of 20 today, and I planted 8 of them ina big> > > > jar, should it be enough?> > > > > > > > Do they grow fast? How long till I could make myself a small> soup? > > > > > > > > I decided in getting the seeds because I couldnt find an organic> > > > nursery, and I dont trust walmart or homedepot ..> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankies> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Good point, David. Dr. Goebeldavid phelan <dmpltd2003 wrote: Hi Tony Just thought I would offer my 2 cents worth,I have been a member of the group for quite a while now,but have never really contributed as I felt you had covered most of the important stuff better than most people could, and most of this information I had compiled myself over a period of 10 years or so. The problems I can see now is that too much conflicting information is as bad as too little. I feel the best way to tackle any problem is to keep it as simple as possible,while I understand that their are certain horses for certain courses and what works for some does'nt always work for others it must be very confusing to a lot of people to see the array of products being suggested. I fully understand that they are offered with the best of intentions,but I think most people are better keeping it simple and sticking to products that have the best known successes. Any person that is a member of this group probably already know the basics and importance of certain diets and alkalinity of the body.Once they have sorted this they are on the first rung of the ladder. I have come in contact with quite a few people with cancer,including my wife and a good few members of both our families, friends and aquaintances and feel from experience that most cancers are curable if caught in time and if the person has the right frame of mind to stick to a certain regime. I can say also from experiences that radio therapy and chemo are useless in most cases as the cancer mostly tends to return with more vigor. we have used dousing to Identify cancers in individuals and also to Identify the best natural products to defeat it,whether you believe in this phenomenon is a matter of choice,but I will list the best possible defenders we have identified which you have covered over the years. (oleander) (wormwood) (cellular zeolite) (essiac) These are just some of the products we have doused that are the most effective,but they were doused with particular people in mind,therefore I can not say they are the best for every one. Which ever of these products a person chooses,combined with vitamin c, a good enzyme product,alpha lipoic acid,spirulina and other superfoods,vitamin d3,msn,coenzyme q10, apple cider vinegar or baking soda they have a very potent mixture to fight thier cancer and most viral illness. I hope this may be of help to some. kind regards David Tony > wrote: Yes, it really is necessary to condense the liquid way, way down touse in skin creme. And it takes quite a lot of liquid to condensedown to a syrupy consistency.Go too weak and you will have little hope on the moles.Tony oleander soup , "boystyle" <boystyle wrote:>> Another question, lets say I make the soup.. can i take 1/10 of that> liquid and mix it with aloe cream? I want to remove couple of moles..> > and the rest 9/10 of the mixture I will mix with alcohol and> drink..would that be good or is it really necessary to condense the> liquid to make the cream? I dont feel like doing it 2 times hehe > > oleander soup , "boystyle" <boystyle@> wrote:> >> > So you dont think I will have a small plant within a month or two that> > I could make some soup? a few months supply soup? I am in Canada I> > dont know where to buy the plant over here, Montreal, Quebec..> > oleander soup , "Tony" @> wrote:> > >> > > Oleander is not a vegetable like a tomato plant or lettuce that you> > > can plant from seed and harvest much of only months later. I would> > > say you are looking at a couple of years time to have plants of any> > > size, since oleander is a moderately fast grower that will growup to> > > or so a couple of feet per year, depending upon soil, climate, etc.> > > > > > Your best bet would be to buy plants in 5 gallon containers from an> > > organic nursery like Rhodes Nursery listed in my book. Buyenough of> > > those and you can harvest some right away and leave enoughgrowth for> > > the plants to continue to grow and flourish.> > > > > > You will ultimately need some pretty sizable pots to growoleander in> > > containers.> > > > > > www.beorganic.com/> > > > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "boystyle" <boystyle@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello,> > > > > > > > I just received a pack of 20 today, and I planted 8 of them ina big> > > > jar, should it be enough?> > > > > > > > Do they grow fast? How long till I could make myself a small> soup? > > > > > > > > I decided in getting the seeds because I couldnt find an organic> > > > nursery, and I dont trust walmart or homedepot ..> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankies> > > >> > >> >> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I cannot tell you personally about using oleander on moles because it appears that I have none. I do have other skin " thingies " and oleander seems to be working quite well. It would likely work even better if I had condensed it down further, but there is very little material in oleander extract and I started with a pretty good amount of extra potent oleander extract made by a master oleander soup maker, and still did not have it down to the consistency of syrup when I stopped (more like the last bit of coffee that is still liquid when you leave the pot on all day). I am not sure how others use it, but at first I was mostly rubbing it in. Recently, I began rubbing it in and leaving a dab on the spots. The DMSO I added to my creme makes it absorb into the skin in short order (I probably have the most cancer free index finger around - lol). So far, it has lightened dark spots and completely gotten rid of some bump like things on the top of my right hand. Other place/thingies pn my face are not gone yet, but are getting dry and flaky as time goes by. I think that it is vital that you put it on twice a day and not skip any days. I skipped the time I was out of town and shouldn't have. Anyone else here who has used the creme feel free to add your two cents. Other than a few small spots I am trying to head off at the pass that are likely from years and years of too much fun in the sun, I really do not have many skin thingies (one of the first users of Anvirzel and oleander told me years ago about how it got rid of " all kinds of skin thingies " and the term has stuck with me - Thanks Liz). I am not sure if the black salve works on moles - the black salve I am familiar with works primarily on tumors. And it does leave a hole where it pulls out the tumor. I know that Marc Swanepoel has reported that oleander and black salve make a good skin creme combination. I wonder about using salicylic acid - the common treatment for warts. It basically gets rid of warts by burning them away. Not a very natural method, is it? Fig tree sap, fig juice and also garlic and onion slices have been used against warts too. If anybody has a wart problem let me know and I will post the whole list from my remedies book. Same goes for any other condition or ailment. Live long, live healthy, live happy! oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle wrote: > > Ok, thanks I will try that and will try to contact that nursery to see > how much they will charge me to ship it to canada, > > Have you had any experience with mole removal ? does it take a lot of > time like the castor oil way? heheh > > I heard good things about cansemal, but I also heard it leaves holes > in your skin :S > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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