Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Oleander is a pretty fast growing plant, but I have no idea how long it takes to grow from seeds. A five gallon nursery specimen (do a Google or other search for organic nurseries so you do not get a plant contaminated with malathion or other pesticides) can grow large enough for a pretty good batch in only one growing season. Several can be clipped to provide an immediate batch and then grow large enough for future batches. In your climate, just as is popular in the northern US Canada and much of Europe, oleander is grown as a container plant so it can be brought inside for protection against the cold. Colors do not matter, so long as the plant is nerium oleander. For more information, browse our files and photos here. A good source of background information in the International Oleander Society, www.oleander.org and wikipedia - although I seem to be having a running battle there with a guardian of the mainstream faith who removes any references to oleander besides it being a poisonous plant (which it certainly is in raw form). From Wikipedia: " Oleander grows well in warm subtropical regions, where it is extensively used as an ornamental plant in landscapes, parks, and along roadsides. It is drought tolerant and will tolerate occasional light frost down to -10°C (Huxley et al. 1992). It can also be grown in cooler climates in greenhouses, conservatories, or as indoor plants that summer outside. Oleander flowers are showy and fragrant and are grown for these reasons. Over 400 cultivars have been named, with several additional flower colours not found in wild plants having been selected, including red, purple and orange; white and a variety of pinks are the most common. Many cultivars also have double flowers. " Live long, live healthy, live happy! oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle wrote: > > Hello, > > This is my first post over here and I would like to get some > information about OS. > > I live in Montreal(Quebec), does anyone know where could I obtain the > plant? I would like to grow it at home since our winter is pretty harsh. > > I was also thinking about buying the seeds from eBay and planting them > myself..Did anyone try that? Does it take a long time to grow? > > Also eBay has different kinds of oleander.. Pink, White, etc.. does it > make any difference? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Thanks for all the info, My English isn't so good so I just want to be sure.. 12 quarts is around 3 gallons right? You are suggesting to mix it with 80% vodka for better preservation right? If so, wont the OS potency get weaker since it has to be diluted 50/50 ? I have also never seen 80% vodka here.. would 40% be fine? Thanks oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > Oleander is a pretty fast growing plant, but I have no idea how long > it takes to grow from seeds. A five gallon nursery specimen (do a > Google or other search for organic nurseries so you do not get a plant > contaminated with malathion or other pesticides) can grow large enough > for a pretty good batch in only one growing season. Several can be > clipped to provide an immediate batch and then grow large enough for > future batches. > > In your climate, just as is popular in the northern US Canada and much > of Europe, oleander is grown as a container plant so it can be brought > inside for protection against the cold. > > Colors do not matter, so long as the plant is nerium oleander. > > For more information, browse our files and photos here. A good source > of background information in the International Oleander Society, > www.oleander.org and wikipedia - although I seem to be having a > running battle there with a guardian of the mainstream faith who > removes any references to oleander besides it being a poisonous plant > (which it certainly is in raw form). > > From Wikipedia: > > " Oleander grows well in warm subtropical regions, where it is > extensively used as an ornamental plant in landscapes, parks, and > along roadsides. It is drought tolerant and will tolerate occasional > light frost down to -10°C (Huxley et al. 1992). It can also be grown > in cooler climates in greenhouses, conservatories, or as indoor plants > that summer outside. Oleander flowers are showy and fragrant and are > grown for these reasons. Over 400 cultivars have been named, with > several additional flower colours not found in wild plants having been > selected, including red, purple and orange; white and a variety of > pinks are the most common. Many cultivars also have double flowers. " > > Live long, live healthy, live happy! > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > This is my first post over here and I would like to get some > > information about OS. > > > > I live in Montreal(Quebec), does anyone know where could I obtain the > > plant? I would like to grow it at home since our winter is pretty harsh. > > > > I was also thinking about buying the seeds from eBay and planting them > > myself..Did anyone try that? Does it take a long time to grow? > > > > Also eBay has different kinds of oleander.. Pink, White, etc.. does it > > make any difference? > > > > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 No, I say to make it according to directions and then, at the end, dilute 50/50 with apple cider vinegar or 80 to 100 PROOF vodka (which is 40 to 50% alcohol) to preserve it and keep it from spoiling. Better still, use about 20% superior colloidal silver as a preservative. You can boil down further, but if you do you must calculate how to reduce the amounts taken by an equal amount. The best bet is to follow the instructions all the way. How many gallons are you making? Several gallons would be years of soup. Better to make fresh a couple of times a year - at least once per year anyway. oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle wrote: > > Thanks for all the info, > > My English isn't so good so I just want to be sure.. > > 12 quarts is around 3 gallons right? > > You are suggesting to mix it with 80% vodka for better preservation > right? If so, wont the OS potency get weaker since it has to be > diluted 50/50 ? > > I have also never seen 80% vodka here.. would 40% be fine? > > Thanks > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > > > > Oleander is a pretty fast growing plant, but I have no idea how long > > it takes to grow from seeds. A five gallon nursery specimen (do a > > Google or other search for organic nurseries so you do not get a plant > > contaminated with malathion or other pesticides) can grow large enough > > for a pretty good batch in only one growing season. Several can be > > clipped to provide an immediate batch and then grow large enough for > > future batches. > > > > In your climate, just as is popular in the northern US Canada and much > > of Europe, oleander is grown as a container plant so it can be brought > > inside for protection against the cold. > > > > Colors do not matter, so long as the plant is nerium oleander. > > > > For more information, browse our files and photos here. A good source > > of background information in the International Oleander Society, > > www.oleander.org and wikipedia - although I seem to be having a > > running battle there with a guardian of the mainstream faith who > > removes any references to oleander besides it being a poisonous plant > > (which it certainly is in raw form). > > > > From Wikipedia: > > > > " Oleander grows well in warm subtropical regions, where it is > > extensively used as an ornamental plant in landscapes, parks, and > > along roadsides. It is drought tolerant and will tolerate occasional > > light frost down to -10°C (Huxley et al. 1992). It can also be grown > > in cooler climates in greenhouses, conservatories, or as indoor plants > > that summer outside. Oleander flowers are showy and fragrant and are > > grown for these reasons. Over 400 cultivars have been named, with > > several additional flower colours not found in wild plants having been > > selected, including red, purple and orange; white and a variety of > > pinks are the most common. Many cultivars also have double flowers. " > > > > Live long, live healthy, live happy! > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > This is my first post over here and I would like to get some > > > information about OS. > > > > > > I live in Montreal(Quebec), does anyone know where could I obtain the > > > plant? I would like to grow it at home since our winter is pretty > harsh. > > > > > > I was also thinking about buying the seeds from eBay and planting them > > > myself..Did anyone try that? Does it take a long time to grow? > > > > > > Also eBay has different kinds of oleander.. Pink, White, etc.. does it > > > make any difference? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 The following part is the only one I don't quite understand: =============== 3. Use a large porcelain or stainless steel steam pot, up to 12 quarts in size, into which you stuff the trimmings to 2 " from top. This is the same kind of pot used for making jellies and canning. Fill with distilled or reverse-osmosis filtered water to the top of the trimmings. Pack the oleander down into the water and put the pot lid on, making sure the water level is at least two inches from the top, so it won’t boil over. ============== Does this mean that I take the trimmings (leafs,branches,flowers)and make sure that the pot is almost full, 2 " from the top correct? The pot can be up to 12 quarts in size which is a large pot..I can use a smaller one right? as long as I keep the trimming 2 " from the top? The rest of the instructions I understand no problems..we don't use quarts here and I did a search and I see that 4 quarts = 1 gallon. Also, if I mix it with 40% alcohol vodka (50/50) for how long the OS will be good for? I was kind of worried that if I mixed it 50/50 the OS wouldn't be as potent. Thanks again! --- Tony wrote: > No, I say to make it according to directions and > then, at the end, > dilute 50/50 with apple cider vinegar or 80 to 100 > PROOF vodka (which > is 40 to 50% alcohol) to preserve it and keep it > from spoiling. > Better still, use about 20% superior colloidal > silver as a preservative. > > You can boil down further, but if you do you must > calculate how to > reduce the amounts taken by an equal amount. > > The best bet is to follow the instructions all the > way. > > How many gallons are you making? Several gallons > would be years of > soup. Better to make fresh a couple of times a year > - at least once > per year anyway. > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > <boystyle wrote: > > > > Thanks for all the info, > > > > My English isn't so good so I just want to be > sure.. > > > > 12 quarts is around 3 gallons right? > > > > You are suggesting to mix it with 80% vodka for > better preservation > > right? If so, wont the OS potency get weaker since > it has to be > > diluted 50/50 ? > > > > I have also never seen 80% vodka here.. would 40% > be fine? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " > @> wrote: > > > > > > Oleander is a pretty fast growing plant, but I > have no idea how long > > > it takes to grow from seeds. A five gallon > nursery specimen (do a > > > Google or other search for organic nurseries so > you do not get a plant > > > contaminated with malathion or other pesticides) > can grow large enough > > > for a pretty good batch in only one growing > season. Several can be > > > clipped to provide an immediate batch and then > grow large enough for > > > future batches. > > > > > > In your climate, just as is popular in the > northern US Canada and much > > > of Europe, oleander is grown as a container > plant so it can be brought > > > inside for protection against the cold. > > > > > > Colors do not matter, so long as the plant is > nerium oleander. > > > > > > For more information, browse our files and > photos here. A good source > > > of background information in the International > Oleander Society, > > > www.oleander.org and wikipedia - although I seem > to be having a > > > running battle there with a guardian of the > mainstream faith who > > > removes any references to oleander besides it > being a poisonous plant > > > (which it certainly is in raw form). > > > > > > From Wikipedia: > > > > > > " Oleander grows well in warm subtropical > regions, where it is > > > extensively used as an ornamental plant in > landscapes, parks, and > > > along roadsides. It is drought tolerant and will > tolerate occasional > > > light frost down to -10°C (Huxley et al. 1992). > It can also be grown > > > in cooler climates in greenhouses, > conservatories, or as indoor plants > > > that summer outside. Oleander flowers are showy > and fragrant and are > > > grown for these reasons. Over 400 cultivars have > been named, with > > > several additional flower colours not found in > wild plants having been > > > selected, including red, purple and orange; > white and a variety of > > > pinks are the most common. Many cultivars also > have double flowers. " > > > > > > Live long, live healthy, live happy! > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > This is my first post over here and I would > like to get some > > > > information about OS. > > > > > > > > I live in Montreal(Quebec), does anyone know > where could I > obtain the > > > > plant? I would like to grow it at home since > our winter is pretty > > harsh. > > > > > > > > I was also thinking about buying the seeds > from eBay and > planting them > > > > myself..Did anyone try that? Does it take a > long time to grow? > > > > > > > > Also eBay has different kinds of oleander.. > Pink, White, etc.. > does it > > > > make any difference? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I can see how that would be confusing. I meant to say that you can use a pot up to as large as 12 quarts in size and that to make the maximum amount, fill with oleander up to two inches from the top. Actually, you can use any size pot and put in any amount of oleander, just be sure to leave enough room to prevent boiling over and be sure to add just enough water to barely cover the top of the oleander. Then proceed according to directions and use the original amount of liquid as a guide for how much to end up with. oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle wrote: > > The following part is the only one I don't quite > understand: > =============== > > 3. Use a large porcelain or stainless steel steam pot, > up to 12 quarts in size, into which you stuff the > trimmings to 2 " from top. This is the same kind of pot > used for making jellies and canning. Fill with > distilled or reverse-osmosis filtered water to the top > of the trimmings. Pack the oleander down into the > water and put the pot lid on, making sure the water > level is at least two inches from the top, so it won't > boil over. > > ============== > > Does this mean that I take the trimmings > (leafs,branches,flowers)and make sure that the pot is > almost full, 2 " from the top correct? > > The pot can be up to 12 quarts in size which is a > large pot..I can use a smaller one right? as long as I > keep the trimming 2 " from the top? > > The rest of the instructions I understand no > problems..we don't use quarts here and I did a search > and I see that 4 quarts = 1 gallon. > > Also, if I mix it with 40% alcohol vodka (50/50) for > how long the OS will be good for? > > I was kind of worried that if I mixed it 50/50 the OS > wouldn't be as potent. > > Thanks again! > > > > --- Tony wrote: > > > No, I say to make it according to directions and > > then, at the end, > > dilute 50/50 with apple cider vinegar or 80 to 100 > > PROOF vodka (which > > is 40 to 50% alcohol) to preserve it and keep it > > from spoiling. > > Better still, use about 20% superior colloidal > > silver as a preservative. > > > > You can boil down further, but if you do you must > > calculate how to > > reduce the amounts taken by an equal amount. > > > > The best bet is to follow the instructions all the > > way. > > > > How many gallons are you making? Several gallons > > would be years of > > soup. Better to make fresh a couple of times a year > > - at least once > > per year anyway. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for all the info, > > > > > > My English isn't so good so I just want to be > > sure.. > > > > > > 12 quarts is around 3 gallons right? > > > > > > You are suggesting to mix it with 80% vodka for > > better preservation > > > right? If so, wont the OS potency get weaker since > > it has to be > > > diluted 50/50 ? > > > > > > I have also never seen 80% vodka here.. would 40% > > be fine? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oleander is a pretty fast growing plant, but I > > have no idea how long > > > > it takes to grow from seeds. A five gallon > > nursery specimen (do a > > > > Google or other search for organic nurseries so > > you do not get a plant > > > > contaminated with malathion or other pesticides) > > can grow large enough > > > > for a pretty good batch in only one growing > > season. Several can be > > > > clipped to provide an immediate batch and then > > grow large enough for > > > > future batches. > > > > > > > > In your climate, just as is popular in the > > northern US Canada and much > > > > of Europe, oleander is grown as a container > > plant so it can be brought > > > > inside for protection against the cold. > > > > > > > > Colors do not matter, so long as the plant is > > nerium oleander. > > > > > > > > For more information, browse our files and > > photos here. A good source > > > > of background information in the International > > Oleander Society, > > > > www.oleander.org and wikipedia - although I seem > > to be having a > > > > running battle there with a guardian of the > > mainstream faith who > > > > removes any references to oleander besides it > > being a poisonous plant > > > > (which it certainly is in raw form). > > > > > > > > From Wikipedia: > > > > > > > > " Oleander grows well in warm subtropical > > regions, where it is > > > > extensively used as an ornamental plant in > > landscapes, parks, and > > > > along roadsides. It is drought tolerant and will > > tolerate occasional > > > > light frost down to -10°C (Huxley et al. 1992). > > It can also be grown > > > > in cooler climates in greenhouses, > > conservatories, or as indoor plants > > > > that summer outside. Oleander flowers are showy > > and fragrant and are > > > > grown for these reasons. Over 400 cultivars have > > been named, with > > > > several additional flower colours not found in > > wild plants having been > > > > selected, including red, purple and orange; > > white and a variety of > > > > pinks are the most common. Many cultivars also > > have double flowers. " > > > > > > > > Live long, live healthy, live happy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > This is my first post over here and I would > > like to get some > > > > > information about OS. > > > > > > > > > > I live in Montreal(Quebec), does anyone know > > where could I > > obtain the > > > > > plant? I would like to grow it at home since > > our winter is pretty > > > harsh. > > > > > > > > > > I was also thinking about buying the seeds > > from eBay and > > planting them > > > > > myself..Did anyone try that? Does it take a > > long time to grow? > > > > > > > > > > Also eBay has different kinds of oleander.. > > Pink, White, etc.. > > does it > > > > > make any difference? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Perfect! I will do that, I just ordered some seeds from ebay because Wal mart and home depot are selling the plants sprayed with some stuff on them..and I wouldn't want to ingest that.. oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > I can see how that would be confusing. I meant to say that you can > use a pot up to as large as 12 quarts in size and that to make the > maximum amount, fill with oleander up to two inches from the top. > > Actually, you can use any size pot and put in any amount of oleander, > just be sure to leave enough room to prevent boiling over and be sure > to add just enough water to barely cover the top of the oleander. > > Then proceed according to directions and use the original amount of > liquid as a guide for how much to end up with. > > > > oleander soup , --- --- <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > The following part is the only one I don't quite > > understand: > > =============== > > > > 3. Use a large porcelain or stainless steel steam pot, > > up to 12 quarts in size, into which you stuff the > > trimmings to 2 " from top. This is the same kind of pot > > used for making jellies and canning. Fill with > > distilled or reverse-osmosis filtered water to the top > > of the trimmings. Pack the oleander down into the > > water and put the pot lid on, making sure the water > > level is at least two inches from the top, so it won't > > boil over. > > > > ============== > > > > Does this mean that I take the trimmings > > (leafs,branches,flowers)and make sure that the pot is > > almost full, 2 " from the top correct? > > > > The pot can be up to 12 quarts in size which is a > > large pot..I can use a smaller one right? as long as I > > keep the trimming 2 " from the top? > > > > The rest of the instructions I understand no > > problems..we don't use quarts here and I did a search > > and I see that 4 quarts = 1 gallon. > > > > Also, if I mix it with 40% alcohol vodka (50/50) for > > how long the OS will be good for? > > > > I was kind of worried that if I mixed it 50/50 the OS > > wouldn't be as potent. > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > --- Tony @> wrote: > > > > > No, I say to make it according to directions and > > > then, at the end, > > > dilute 50/50 with apple cider vinegar or 80 to 100 > > > PROOF vodka (which > > > is 40 to 50% alcohol) to preserve it and keep it > > > from spoiling. > > > Better still, use about 20% superior colloidal > > > silver as a preservative. > > > > > > You can boil down further, but if you do you must > > > calculate how to > > > reduce the amounts taken by an equal amount. > > > > > > The best bet is to follow the instructions all the > > > way. > > > > > > How many gallons are you making? Several gallons > > > would be years of > > > soup. Better to make fresh a couple of times a year > > > - at least once > > > per year anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the info, > > > > > > > > My English isn't so good so I just want to be > > > sure.. > > > > > > > > 12 quarts is around 3 gallons right? > > > > > > > > You are suggesting to mix it with 80% vodka for > > > better preservation > > > > right? If so, wont the OS potency get weaker since > > > it has to be > > > > diluted 50/50 ? > > > > > > > > I have also never seen 80% vodka here.. would 40% > > > be fine? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " > > > @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Oleander is a pretty fast growing plant, but I > > > have no idea how long > > > > > it takes to grow from seeds. A five gallon > > > nursery specimen (do a > > > > > Google or other search for organic nurseries so > > > you do not get a plant > > > > > contaminated with malathion or other pesticides) > > > can grow large enough > > > > > for a pretty good batch in only one growing > > > season. Several can be > > > > > clipped to provide an immediate batch and then > > > grow large enough for > > > > > future batches. > > > > > > > > > > In your climate, just as is popular in the > > > northern US Canada and much > > > > > of Europe, oleander is grown as a container > > > plant so it can be brought > > > > > inside for protection against the cold. > > > > > > > > > > Colors do not matter, so long as the plant is > > > nerium oleander. > > > > > > > > > > For more information, browse our files and > > > photos here. A good source > > > > > of background information in the International > > > Oleander Society, > > > > > www.oleander.org and wikipedia - although I seem > > > to be having a > > > > > running battle there with a guardian of the > > > mainstream faith who > > > > > removes any references to oleander besides it > > > being a poisonous plant > > > > > (which it certainly is in raw form). > > > > > > > > > > From Wikipedia: > > > > > > > > > > " Oleander grows well in warm subtropical > > > regions, where it is > > > > > extensively used as an ornamental plant in > > > landscapes, parks, and > > > > > along roadsides. It is drought tolerant and will > > > tolerate occasional > > > > > light frost down to -10°C (Huxley et al. 1992). > > > It can also be grown > > > > > in cooler climates in greenhouses, > > > conservatories, or as indoor plants > > > > > that summer outside. Oleander flowers are showy > > > and fragrant and are > > > > > grown for these reasons. Over 400 cultivars have > > > been named, with > > > > > several additional flower colours not found in > > > wild plants having been > > > > > selected, including red, purple and orange; > > > white and a variety of > > > > > pinks are the most common. Many cultivars also > > > have double flowers. " > > > > > > > > > > Live long, live healthy, live happy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " boystyle " > > > <boystyle@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is my first post over here and I would > > > like to get some > > > > > > information about OS. > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in Montreal(Quebec), does anyone know > > > where could I > > > obtain the > > > > > > plant? I would like to grow it at home since > > > our winter is pretty > > > > harsh. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was also thinking about buying the seeds > > > from eBay and > > > planting them > > > > > > myself..Did anyone try that? Does it take a > > > long time to grow? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also eBay has different kinds of oleander.. > > > Pink, White, etc.. > > > does it > > > > > > make any difference? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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