Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend that is in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have told me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does not have long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, children or whom? I thought I could just give them the articles written about oleander and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I am not sure how you best approach someone as each person is different regarding their beliefs in natural alternatives. I would tell him that the person who devised the home remedy " oleander soup " from the original patented medicine used it to rid his elderly mother of cancer that was in two parts of her body - and that the moderator of the group and author of the book " Cancer's Natural Enemy " (too bad you did not buy it - you would have only a fraction of the questions - lol) has an 84 year old uncle that chemo could not help who had lung cancer that was spreading and now, after using oleander (Anvirzel, the home remedy and OPC) there is no evidence of cancer anywhere outside the lung and the lung tumor has shrunken and stabilized. oleander soup , " Winston " <winstonb wrote: > > I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend that is > in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have told > me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does not have > long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any > alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, > children or whom? > > I thought I could just give them the articles written about oleander > and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. > > Any suggestions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Hi Winston, I would give them the information. Also, why don't you invite them to join the forum? This way they would get information, have their questions answered and get support. May The Best Years in Life (under construction)....... / http://thecorner4women.com "Empowering Women Throughout the World" http://dipetanesoutheast.com Winston <winstonboleander soup Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:10:46 PM How to approach another person about Oleander I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend that is in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have told me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does not have long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, children or whom? I thought I could just give them the articles written about oleander and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Hi Winston, It sounds good to another if you yourself are doing a new thing !You have hope enough to use it and that speaks to alot of people.If you give them articles and others success stories that inspired you, especially the early storys of OS .... that should really peak there interest. Toya Winston <winstonboleander soup Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:10:46 PM How to approach another person about Oleander I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend that is in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have told me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does not have long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, children or whom? I thought I could just give them the articles written about oleander and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. Any suggestions? Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 One of our members is a US Navy nurse, who did the due diligence research, and shared it with a relative with cancer. If the person has internet savvy, then email them the links, especially the SaludIntegral.hn link, which treats with Anvirzel, which is basically OS, but injected. If they are being overwhelmed by a chemo selling oncologist, it's hopeless to hype OS, primarily because there are no published, recognized studies which show it's benefit. Why? Because the drug companies know they can't make big profits from it. It's a natural extract, which can't be made in a lab and mass produced due to its complexity. One of God's little jokes on big pharma business. I just saw the old movie, " Medicine Man " , and had to marvel how similar Connery's research was to those looking at OS, without the ants in the canopy. Too bad foundations like Lance Armstrong's won't even consider OS. With a little serious finance, and a few studies in hopeless cases, I know OS would prove it's value, as it has in S. Africa with both aids and cancer. I still have some of my original brew, now three years old, 50% vodka, refrigerated and flavored. Still good, tastes the same, about four tablespoons left. Ed oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > I am not sure how you best approach someone as each person is > different regarding their beliefs in natural alternatives. > > I would tell him that the person who devised the home remedy " oleander > soup " from the original patented medicine used it to rid his elderly > mother of cancer that was in two parts of her body - and that the > moderator of the group and author of the book " Cancer's Natural Enemy " > (too bad you did not buy it - you would have only a fraction of the > questions - lol) has an 84 year old uncle that chemo could not help > who had lung cancer that was spreading and now, after using oleander > (Anvirzel, the home remedy and OPC) there is no evidence of cancer > anywhere outside the lung and the lung tumor has shrunken and stabilized. > > > > oleander soup , " Winston " <winstonb@> wrote: > > > > I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend that is > > in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have told > > me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does not have > > long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any > > alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, > > children or whom? > > > > I thought I could just give them the articles written about oleander > > and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I am that Navy Nurse. I will share OS with anyone who will listen with an open mind. Mary Ann who I wrote of earlier is now taking 2 tbsp. per day along with good nutrition, juicing beets, carrots and other things including various local grasses and weeds that have a proven track record (yellow dock, crab grass, bindweed, and dandilion). She is also taking ESSIAC TEA which I make and give to her. I also have made her a super food powder that is mixed in Juice. The ingredients (organic powders) are: 2 parts Barley Grass; 1 part beet, 1 part spinach, 1 part alfalfa, 1 part, 1 part wheat grass, 1/2 part cats claw, 1/2 part Pao D' Arco, 1/2 part Azomite. Sadly, I found out yesterday that she has started Chemo. I do not know what type of Chemo, but I pray that her body is able to stand up to the insult of the Chemo. I will continue to help as many people in my local area as possible. I do not charge money for the things that I give people or the info I share. It is a ministry and people donate as they have a desire to and as long as I have the resources to keep making the different remidies. Right now I make: OS, ESSIAC Tea, Super Food Mix, and Black Salve (all cancer remidies). I have seen too many people profit off of the backs of desperate and sick people. I can't do that. Hope you all are able to help others as well. Keep praying for Mary Ann. Jeff ed4soup <ed4636 wrote: One of our members is a US Navy nurse, who did the due diligenceresearch, and shared it with a relative with cancer. If the personhas internet savvy, then email them the links, especially theSaludIntegral.hn link, which treats with Anvirzel, which is basicallyOS, but injected.If they are being overwhelmed by a chemo selling oncologist, it'shopeless to hype OS, primarily because there are no published,recognized studies which show it's benefit. Why? Because the drugcompanies know they can't make big profits from it. It's a naturalextract, which can't be made in a lab and mass produced due to itscomplexity. One of God's little jokes on big pharma business. I just saw the old movie, "Medicine Man", and had to marvel howsimilar Connery's research was to those looking at OS, without theants in the canopy. Too bad foundations like Lance Armstrong's won'teven consider OS. With a little serious finance, and a few studies inhopeless cases, I know OS would prove it's value, as it has in S.Africa with both aids and cancer. I still have some of my original brew, now three years old, 50% vodka,refrigerated and flavored. Still good, tastes the same, about fourtablespoons left. Edoleander soup , "Tony" wrote:>> I am not sure how you best approach someone as each person is> different regarding their beliefs in natural alternatives.> > I would tell him that the person who devised the home remedy "oleander> soup" from the original patented medicine used it to rid his elderly> mother of cancer that was in two parts of her body - and that the> moderator of the group and author of the book "Cancer's Natural Enemy"> (too bad you did not buy it - you would have only a fraction of the> questions - lol) has an 84 year old uncle that chemo could not help> who had lung cancer that was spreading and now, after using oleander> (Anvirzel, the home remedy and OPC) there is no evidence of cancer> anywhere outside the lung and the lung tumor has shrunken andstabilized.> > Tony> > oleander soup , "Winston" <winstonb@> wrote:> >> > I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friendthat is > > in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family havetold > > me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does not have > > long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any > > alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, > > children or whom? > > > > I thought I could just give them the articles written about oleander > > and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. > > > > Any suggestions?> >> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Sounds like a good regimen to me. I agree that it is unfortunate about the chemo, but would point out that the makers of Anvirzel (essentially the same as OS) maintain that it either alleviates or eliminates virtually all known side effects of chemo, including hair loss (with the sole exception of when Cisplatin is the chemo drug, and then there often is some hair loss). It is also reported that chemo success rates are much higher when Anvirzel is used along with the chemo. My own very strong opinion is that oleander often has to beat both the damage from the chemo and the cancer. And I think this is borne out by the fact that the very highest success rates are seen when Anvirzel/oleander is used without chemo. With the OS and all the good things you are giving her, perhaps Mary Ann has good odds of beating cancer and surviving the chemo. What I pray is that her oncologist doesn't convince her to stop any of the good things you are having her do. oleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack wrote: > > I am that Navy Nurse. I will share OS with anyone who will listen with an open mind. Mary Ann who I wrote of earlier is now taking 2 tbsp. per day along with good nutrition, juicing beets, carrots and other things including various local grasses and weeds that have a proven track record (yellow dock, crab grass, bindweed, and dandilion). She is also taking ESSIAC TEA which I make and give to her. I also have made her a super food powder that is mixed in Juice. The ingredients (organic powders) are: 2 parts Barley Grass; 1 part beet, 1 part spinach, 1 part alfalfa, 1 part, 1 part wheat grass, 1/2 part cats claw, 1/2 part Pao D' Arco, 1/2 part Azomite. Sadly, I found out yesterday that she has started Chemo. I do not know what type of Chemo, but I pray that her body is able to stand up to the insult of the Chemo. > I will continue to help as many people in my local area as possible. I do not charge money for the things that I give people or the info I share. It is a ministry and people donate as they have a desire to and as long as I have the resources to keep making the different remidies. Right now I make: OS, ESSIAC Tea, Super Food Mix, and Black Salve (all cancer remidies). I have seen too many people profit off of the backs of desperate and sick people. I can't do that. Hope you all are able to help others as well. Keep praying for Mary Ann. > > Jeff > > ed4soup <ed4636 wrote: > One of our members is a US Navy nurse, who did the due diligence > research, and shared it with a relative with cancer. If the person > has internet savvy, then email them the links, especially the > SaludIntegral.hn link, which treats with Anvirzel, which is basically > OS, but injected. > > If they are being overwhelmed by a chemo selling oncologist, it's > hopeless to hype OS, primarily because there are no published, > recognized studies which show it's benefit. Why? Because the drug > companies know they can't make big profits from it. It's a natural > extract, which can't be made in a lab and mass produced due to its > complexity. One of God's little jokes on big pharma business. > > I just saw the old movie, " Medicine Man " , and had to marvel how > similar Connery's research was to those looking at OS, without the > ants in the canopy. Too bad foundations like Lance Armstrong's won't > even consider OS. With a little serious finance, and a few studies in > hopeless cases, I know OS would prove it's value, as it has in S. > Africa with both aids and cancer. > > I still have some of my original brew, now three years old, 50% vodka, > refrigerated and flavored. Still good, tastes the same, about four > tablespoons left. Ed > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > > > > I am not sure how you best approach someone as each person is > > different regarding their beliefs in natural alternatives. > > > > I would tell him that the person who devised the home remedy " oleander > > soup " from the original patented medicine used it to rid his elderly > > mother of cancer that was in two parts of her body - and that the > > moderator of the group and author of the book " Cancer's Natural Enemy " > > (too bad you did not buy it - you would have only a fraction of the > > questions - lol) has an 84 year old uncle that chemo could not help > > who had lung cancer that was spreading and now, after using oleander > > (Anvirzel, the home remedy and OPC) there is no evidence of cancer > > anywhere outside the lung and the lung tumor has shrunken and > stabilized. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Winston " <winstonb@> wrote: > > > > > > I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend > that is > > > in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have > told > > > me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does not have > > > long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any > > > alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, > > > children or whom? > > > > > > I thought I could just give them the articles written about oleander > > > and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 This is my prayer also. I found out today that Mary Ann just got out of a 4 day hospital admission due to not being able to breath well and not able to eat any thing. Her esophagus and trachea lining are all killed off from the chemo and she is having a hard time. I am going to try and speak with her tomarrow and see how she is feeling. I hope that I can make her understand out important it is to be strict with taking all of these things esp. the OS. One thing that I forgot to mention is she is supposed to be following the Budwig Protocol with Flax oil/cottage cheese. Everyone's prayers for Mary Ann are appreciated. Thanks, JeffTony wrote: Sounds like a good regimen to me. I agree that it is unfortunateabout the chemo, but would point out that the makers of Anvirzel(essentially the same as OS) maintain that it either alleviates oreliminates virtually all known side effects of chemo, including hairloss (with the sole exception of when Cisplatin is the chemo drug, andthen there often is some hair loss).It is also reported that chemo success rates are much higher whenAnvirzel is used along with the chemo. My own very strong opinion isthat oleander often has to beat both the damage from the chemo and thecancer. And I think this is borne out by the fact that the veryhighest success rates are seen when Anvirzel/oleander is used withoutchemo.With the OS and all the good things you are giving her, perhaps MaryAnn has good odds of beating cancer and surviving the chemo. What Ipray is that her oncologist doesn't convince her to stop any of thegood things you are having her do.Tonyoleander soup , Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jackwrote:>> I am that Navy Nurse. I will share OS with anyone who will listenwith an open mind. Mary Ann who I wrote of earlier is now taking 2tbsp. per day along with good nutrition, juicing beets, carrots andother things including various local grasses and weeds that have aproven track record (yellow dock, crab grass, bindweed, anddandilion). She is also taking ESSIAC TEA which I make and give toher. I also have made her a super food powder that is mixed in Juice.The ingredients (organic powders) are: 2 parts Barley Grass; 1 partbeet, 1 part spinach, 1 part alfalfa, 1 part, 1 part wheat grass, 1/2part cats claw, 1/2 part Pao D' Arco, 1/2 part Azomite. Sadly, Ifound out yesterday that she has started Chemo. I do not know whattype of Chemo, but I pray that her body is able to stand up to theinsult of the Chemo. > I will continue to help as many people in my local area aspossible. I do not charge money for the things that I give people orthe info I share. It is a ministry and people donate as they have adesire to and as long as I have the resources to keep making thedifferent remidies. Right now I make: OS, ESSIAC Tea, Super Food Mix,and Black Salve (all cancer remidies). I have seen too many peopleprofit off of the backs of desperate and sick people. I can't dothat. Hope you all are able to help others as well. Keep praying forMary Ann.> > Jeff > > ed4soup <ed4636 wrote:> One of our members is a US Navy nurse, who did the duediligence> research, and shared it with a relative with cancer. If the person> has internet savvy, then email them the links, especially the> SaludIntegral.hn link, which treats with Anvirzel, which is basically> OS, but injected.> > If they are being overwhelmed by a chemo selling oncologist, it's> hopeless to hype OS, primarily because there are no published,> recognized studies which show it's benefit. Why? Because the drug> companies know they can't make big profits from it. It's a natural> extract, which can't be made in a lab and mass produced due to its> complexity. One of God's little jokes on big pharma business. > > I just saw the old movie, "Medicine Man", and had to marvel how> similar Connery's research was to those looking at OS, without the> ants in the canopy. Too bad foundations like Lance Armstrong's won't> even consider OS. With a little serious finance, and a few studies in> hopeless cases, I know OS would prove it's value, as it has in S.> Africa with both aids and cancer. > > I still have some of my original brew, now three years old, 50% vodka,> refrigerated and flavored. Still good, tastes the same, about four> tablespoons left. Ed> > oleander soup , "Tony" @> wrote:> >> > I am not sure how you best approach someone as each person is> > different regarding their beliefs in natural alternatives.> > > > I would tell him that the person who devised the home remedy "oleander> > soup" from the original patented medicine used it to rid his elderly> > mother of cancer that was in two parts of her body - and that the> > moderator of the group and author of the book "Cancer's Natural Enemy"> > (too bad you did not buy it - you would have only a fraction of the> > questions - lol) has an 84 year old uncle that chemo could not help> > who had lung cancer that was spreading and now, after using oleander> > (Anvirzel, the home remedy and OPC) there is no evidence of cancer> > anywhere outside the lung and the lung tumor has shrunken and> stabilized.> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup , "Winston" <winstonb@> wrote:> > >> > > I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend> that is > > > in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have> told > > > me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does nothave > > > long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any > > > alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, > > > children or whom? > > > > > > I thought I could just give them the articles written aboutoleander > > > and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. > > > > > > Any suggestions?> > >> >> > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someonewho knows.> Answers - Check it out.> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 My prayers are with you Jeff and, of course, Mary Ann,. Insist on this. Take charge. Make her understand that this is necessary for her recovery. She may have lost hope. May The Best Years in Life (under construction)....... / http://thecorner4women.com "Empowering Women Throughout the World" http://dipetanesoutheast.com Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jackoleander soup Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 2:27:42 AMRe: Re: How to approach another person about Oleander This is my prayer also. I found out today that Mary Ann just got out of a 4 day hospital admission due to not being able to breath well and not able to eat any thing. Her esophagus and trachea lining are all killed off from the chemo and she is having a hard time. I am going to try and speak with her tomarrow and see how she is feeling. I hope that I can make her understand out important it is to be strict with taking all of these things esp. the OS. One thing that I forgot to mention is she is supposed to be following the Budwig Protocol with Flax oil/cottage cheese. Everyone's prayers for Mary Ann are appreciated. Thanks, JeffTony > wrote: Sounds like a good regimen to me. I agree that it is unfortunateabout the chemo, but would point out that the makers of Anvirzel(essentially the same as OS) maintain that it either alleviates oreliminates virtually all known side effects of chemo, including hairloss (with the sole exception of when Cisplatin is the chemo drug, andthen there often is some hair loss).It is also reported that chemo success rates are much higher whenAnvirzel is used along with the chemo. My own very strong opinion isthat oleander often has to beat both the damage from the chemo and thecancer. And I think this is borne out by the fact that the veryhighest success rates are seen when Anvirzel/oleander is used withoutchemo.With the OS and all the good things you are giving her, perhaps MaryAnn has good odds of beating cancer and surviving the chemo. What Ipray is that her oncologist doesn't convince her to stop any of thegood things you are having her do.Tonyoleander soup, Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack@ ...>wrote:>> I am that Navy Nurse. I will share OS with anyone who will listenwith an open mind. Mary Ann who I wrote of earlier is now taking 2tbsp. per day along with good nutrition, juicing beets, carrots andother things including various local grasses and weeds that have aproven track record (yellow dock, crab grass, bindweed, anddandilion). She is also taking ESSIAC TEA which I make and give toher. I also have made her a super food powder that is mixed in Juice.The ingredients (organic powders) are: 2 parts Barley Grass; 1 partbeet, 1 part spinach, 1 part alfalfa, 1 part, 1 part wheat grass, 1/2part cats claw, 1/2 part Pao D' Arco, 1/2 part Azomite. Sadly, Ifound out yesterday that she has started Chemo. I do not know whattype of Chemo, but I pray that her body is able to stand up to theinsult of the Chemo. > I will continue to help as many people in my local area aspossible. I do not charge money for the things that I give people orthe info I share. It is a ministry and people donate as they have adesire to and as long as I have the resources to keep making thedifferent remidies. Right now I make: OS, ESSIAC Tea, Super Food Mix,and Black Salve (all cancer remidies). I have seen too many peopleprofit off of the backs of desperate and sick people. I can't dothat. Hope you all are able to help others as well. Keep praying forMary Ann.> > Jeff > > ed4soup <ed4636 wrote:> One of our members is a US Navy nurse, who did the duediligence> research, and shared it with a relative with cancer. If the person> has internet savvy, then email them the links, especially the> SaludIntegral. hn link, which treats with Anvirzel, which is basically> OS, but injected.> > If they are being overwhelmed by a chemo selling oncologist, it's> hopeless to hype OS, primarily because there are no published,> recognized studies which show it's benefit. Why? Because the drug> companies know they can't make big profits from it. It's a natural> extract, which can't be made in a lab and mass produced due to its> complexity. One of God's little jokes on big pharma business. > > I just saw the old movie, "Medicine Man", and had to marvel how> similar Connery's research was to those looking at OS, without the> ants in the canopy. Too bad foundations like Lance Armstrong's won't> even consider OS. With a little serious finance, and a few studies in> hopeless cases, I know OS would prove it's value, as it has in S.> Africa with both aids and cancer. > > I still have some of my original brew, now three years old, 50% vodka,> refrigerated and flavored. Still good, tastes the same, about four> tablespoons left. Ed> > oleander soup, "Tony" @> wrote:> >> > I am not sure how you best approach someone as each person is> > different regarding their beliefs in natural alternatives.> > > > I would tell him that the person who devised the home remedy "oleander> > soup" from the original patented medicine used it to rid his elderly> > mother of cancer that was in two parts of her body - and that the> > moderator of the group and author of the book "Cancer's Natural Enemy"> > (too bad you did not buy it - you would have only a fraction of the> > questions - lol) has an 84 year old uncle that chemo could not help> > who had lung cancer that was spreading and now, after using oleander> > (Anvirzel, the home remedy and OPC) there is no evidence of cancer> > anywhere outside the lung and the lung tumor has shrunken and> stabilized.> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup, "Winston" <winstonb@> wrote:> > >> > > I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend> that is > > > in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have> told > > > me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does nothave > > > long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any > > > alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, > > > children or whom? > > > > > > I thought I could just give them the articles written aboutoleander > > > and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. > > > > > > Any suggestions?> > >> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someonewho knows.> Answers - Check it out.> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Thanks for the encouragement May. I am going to see her tomarrow and I will take your advice. Thanks Jeff May <luellamay129 wrote: My prayers are with you Jeff and, of course, Mary Ann,. Insist on this. Take charge. Make her understand that this is necessary for her recovery. She may have lost hope. May The Best Years in Life (under construction)....... / http://thecorner4women.com "Empowering Women Throughout the World" http://dipetanesoutheast.com Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack >oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 2:27:42 AMRe: Re: How to approach another person about Oleander This is my prayer also. I found out today that Mary Ann just got out of a 4 day hospital admission due to not being able to breath well and not able to eat any thing. Her esophagus and trachea lining are all killed off from the chemo and she is having a hard time. I am going to try and speak with her tomarrow and see how she is feeling. I hope that I can make her understand out important it is to be strict with taking all of these things esp. the OS. One thing that I forgot to mention is she is supposed to be following the Budwig Protocol with Flax oil/cottage cheese. Everyone's prayers for Mary Ann are appreciated. Thanks, JeffTony > wrote: Sounds like a good regimen to me. I agree that it is unfortunateabout the chemo, but would point out that the makers of Anvirzel(essentially the same as OS) maintain that it either alleviates oreliminates virtually all known side effects of chemo, including hairloss (with the sole exception of when Cisplatin is the chemo drug, andthen there often is some hair loss).It is also reported that chemo success rates are much higher whenAnvirzel is used along with the chemo. My own very strong opinion isthat oleander often has to beat both the damage from the chemo and thecancer. And I think this is borne out by the fact that the veryhighest success rates are seen when Anvirzel/oleander is used withoutchemo.With the OS and all the good things you are giving her, perhaps MaryAnn has good odds of beating cancer and surviving the chemo. What Ipray is that her oncologist doesn't convince her to stop any of thegood things you are having her do.Tonyoleander soup@ . com, Jeffery Jack <jeffery.jack@ ...>wrote:>> I am that Navy Nurse. I will share OS with anyone who will listenwith an open mind. Mary Ann who I wrote of earlier is now taking 2tbsp. per day along with good nutrition, juicing beets, carrots andother things including various local grasses and weeds that have aproven track record (yellow dock, crab grass, bindweed, anddandilion). She is also taking ESSIAC TEA which I make and give toher. I also have made her a super food powder that is mixed in Juice.The ingredients (organic powders) are: 2 parts Barley Grass; 1 partbeet, 1 part spinach, 1 part alfalfa, 1 part, 1 part wheat grass, 1/2part cats claw, 1/2 part Pao D' Arco, 1/2 part Azomite. Sadly, Ifound out yesterday that she has started Chemo. I do not know whattype of Chemo, but I pray that her body is able to stand up to theinsult of the Chemo. > I will continue to help as many people in my local area aspossible. I do not charge money for the things that I give people orthe info I share. It is a ministry and people donate as they have adesire to and as long as I have the resources to keep making thedifferent remidies. Right now I make: OS, ESSIAC Tea, Super Food Mix,and Black Salve (all cancer remidies). I have seen too many peopleprofit off of the backs of desperate and sick people. I can't dothat. Hope you all are able to help others as well. Keep praying forMary Ann.> > Jeff > > ed4soup <ed4636 wrote:> One of our members is a US Navy nurse, who did the duediligence> research, and shared it with a relative with cancer. If the person> has internet savvy, then email them the links, especially the> SaludIntegral. hn link, which treats with Anvirzel, which is basically> OS, but injected.> > If they are being overwhelmed by a chemo selling oncologist, it's> hopeless to hype OS, primarily because there are no published,> recognized studies which show it's benefit. Why? Because the drug> companies know they can't make big profits from it. It's a natural> extract, which can't be made in a lab and mass produced due to its> complexity. One of God's little jokes on big pharma business. > > I just saw the old movie, "Medicine Man", and had to marvel how> similar Connery's research was to those looking at OS, without the> ants in the canopy. Too bad foundations like Lance Armstrong's won't> even consider OS. With a little serious finance, and a few studies in> hopeless cases, I know OS would prove it's value, as it has in S.> Africa with both aids and cancer. > > I still have some of my original brew, now three years old, 50% vodka,> refrigerated and flavored. Still good, tastes the same, about four> tablespoons left. Ed> > oleander soup, "Tony" @> wrote:> >> > I am not sure how you best approach someone as each person is> > different regarding their beliefs in natural alternatives.> > > > I would tell him that the person who devised the home remedy "oleander> > soup" from the original patented medicine used it to rid his elderly> > mother of cancer that was in two parts of her body - and that the> > moderator of the group and author of the book "Cancer's Natural Enemy"> > (too bad you did not buy it - you would have only a fraction of the> > questions - lol) has an 84 year old uncle that chemo could not help> > who had lung cancer that was spreading and now, after using oleander> > (Anvirzel, the home remedy and OPC) there is no evidence of cancer> > anywhere outside the lung and the lung tumor has shrunken and> stabilized.> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup, "Winston" <winstonb@> wrote:> > >> > > I just started with oleander a few days ago but I have a friend> that is > > > in his 80's, is still walking around, but his wife and family have> told > > > me the cancer he has is in all parts of his body and he does nothave > > > long to live. I have no idea that he would even consider any > > > alternative treatments like oleander. Should I approach his wife, > > > children or whom? > > > > > > I thought I could just give them the articles written aboutoleander > > > and what the soup has done for others and let them decide. > > > > > > Any suggestions?> > >> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someonewho knows.> Answers - Check it out.> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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