Overdose on Olenader?

[Guest guest]

I had a terrible experience last night.

 

Yesterday morning I took a measured 1/4 tsp of the soup and after

supper I took what I thought was about 1/4 because I just took a sip

out of the bottle.

 

A little while later I started to shiver and felt cold. I also felt

like I had no energy so I went to bed with covers on me. A little

later I started sweating and felt like I could throw up but I didn't.

My body hurt. All through the night I alternetly went from shivering

to sweating. It was terrible. I felt like I was going to die. I even

thought about going to the emergency room but held out.

 

My wife was wondering what was going on. I let her read the recipe

for the oleandeer soup. She asked why one has to use rubber gloves to

handle the toxic plant and a few hours later after making the soup

one can now drink the stuff.

 

At this point I couldn't even talk because I felt so bad so she did a

google on oleander and realized that it could help my prostate cancer

IF I followed directions exactly! She agreed that I could continue

BUT only if I started out slow. I'm not going to take any soup until

I get some energy back.

 

I was just thinking that I may have boiled my oleander soup down to a

thicker degree and should have taken lesser amounts in starting out.

I cut it 50/50 with organic apple cider vinegar

 

This was a terrible experience and so I'm going to proceed very

carefully.

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

Winston -

 

Something is not right here! You mentioned that the first time you

tried it, you had a burning sensation under your tongue. Are you

still using the same batch? Do you still have a burning sensation?

 

If the answers to either one of those is yes, then I strongly advise

you to STOP!

 

At this point it is incumbent upon me to tell you that your decision

and anyone else's decision to use oleander is soley your/their own.

Given your problems so far I would advise you to stop.

 

In the event you do decide to continue, here is my information for you:

 

If you still feel any burning or tingling when you place a few drops

on your lips or under your tongue, and you are absolutely certain that

your oleander is pesticide and contaminant free, then you should have

a qualified medical professional check you for the latex allergy Janna

mentioned.

 

If there is no more tingling or burning, let's make sure that you are

following the directions correctly. Here are four key points:

 

First of all, do not cram as much oleander as possible into the pot,

you just make sure that the cuttings are less than the diameter of the

pot and pack or pat them down lightly until the oleander is two inches

or more below the top of the pot. In this regard, I can see that the

recipe might be misleading, and someone might make the mistake of

cramming oleander in until they had a virtual solid block of the

stuff! Don't do that! (I am revising the instructions to make sure

that point is made clearer)

 

Second, you add water until the oleander is covered and then you make

sure the oleander is immerse in the water and you boil AT A SLOW

ROIILING BOWL with the lid on for 3 1/2 to 4 hours and then you remove

the plant material with tongs or a screen ladle. I use tongs and then

pour through a screen strainer. You should end up with about 60 to

70% of the original liquid. If not, add more water until you have

approximately 70% of the original amount of liquid.

 

Third, you boil the remaining liquid down VERY SLOWLY for another 2 to

3 hours until you reduce it by 50% so that you end up with about 30 -

35% of the original liquid. If you have less liquid at this point,

add water until you have at least 30% of the original volumn of

liquid. The oleander extract should be about as thick as chicken

broth at this point.

 

IT IS CRITICAL THAT YOU END UP WITH AT LEAST 30% OF THE ORIGINAL LIQUID.

 

Fourth, let the liquid cool at room temperature, sitting covered for

about two hours. And then proceed with the straining as per the

instructions. Four layers of paper towels and again with 3-4 coffee

filters. Or twice with the coffee filters. To be safe, just in case

there is something in the paper towels, I would used only coffee

filters and use the unbleached brown ones.

 

If you have followed the instructions properly and if you do not feel

any burning or tingling when you place a bit on the lips, you may wish

to try 1/8 teaspoon as a starter and gradually increase a bit at a

time weekly until reaching the maximum dose.

 

Given what has happened so far, if you have any tingling or burning or

any other reaction even vaguely similar to what happened before, I

would again say stop taking the oleander.

 

To me, it sounds like you either have contaminated soup, soup that is

way too strong, or else you are allergic somehow. If you eliminate

the first two options, then there is a problem.

 

Keep us posted, whatever you do.

 

 

 

oleander soup , " Winston " <winstonb wrote:

>

> I had a terrible experience last night.

>

> Yesterday morning I took a measured 1/4 tsp of the soup and after

> supper I took what I thought was about 1/4 because I just took a sip

> out of the bottle.

>

> A little while later I started to shiver and felt cold. I also felt

> like I had no energy so I went to bed with covers on me. A little

> later I started sweating and felt like I could throw up but I didn't.

> My body hurt. All through the night I alternetly went from shivering

> to sweating. It was terrible. I felt like I was going to die. I even

> thought about going to the emergency room but held out.

>

> My wife was wondering what was going on. I let her read the recipe

> for the oleandeer soup. She asked why one has to use rubber gloves to

> handle the toxic plant and a few hours later after making the soup

> one can now drink the stuff.

>

> At this point I couldn't even talk because I felt so bad so she did a

> google on oleander and realized that it could help my prostate cancer

> IF I followed directions exactly! She agreed that I could continue

> BUT only if I started out slow. I'm not going to take any soup until

> I get some energy back.

>

> I was just thinking that I may have boiled my oleander soup down to a

> thicker degree and should have taken lesser amounts in starting out.

> I cut it 50/50 with organic apple cider vinegar

>

> This was a terrible experience and so I'm going to proceed very

> carefully.

>

[Guest guest]

You might try just drinking a fluid ounce of apple cider vinegar and

testing your reaction to that. Swish it around in your mouth several

times to test for any burning sensation. Sometimes excess vinegar

makes me feel ill, but not always. Sometimes foodstuffs don't mix.

 

You could also wash the oils off your skin at an elbow crease. Dry

off, and then place a drop of oleander soup in the crease. Leave it

there until it drys. See if the area becomes inflamed, as in an

allergic reaction.

 

I would at a minimum take these precautions before ingesting any more

o.s.

Please heed what Tony told you about contamination w/ pesticides or

other chemicals.

 

You can buy some latex surgical gloves and wear them for a while to see

if you are allergic to latex.

 

 

Dr. Goebel

 

PS. Others please provide more helpful suggestions for this gentleman.

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Winston, I am so sorry to hear this. Did you boil it the appropriate time? That is very important. Also, as Tony pointed out, are you sure there were no pesticides on that plant? Follow the directions that Tony and Dr. Goebel gave you. Feel better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Winston <winstonboleander soup Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:39:15 AM Overdose on Olenader?

 

I had a terrible experience last night. Yesterday morning I took a measured 1/4 tsp of the soup and after supper I took what I thought was about 1/4 because I just took a sip out of the bottle. A little while later I started to shiver and felt cold. I also felt like I had no energy so I went to bed with covers on me. A little later I started sweating and felt like I could throw up but I didn't. My body hurt. All through the night I alternetly went from shivering to sweating. It was terrible. I felt like I was going to die. I even thought about going to the emergency room but held out. My wife was wondering what was going on. I let her read the recipe for the oleandeer soup. She asked why one has to use rubber gloves to handle the toxic plant and a few hours later after making the soup one can now drink the stuff. At this point I couldn't even talk because I felt so bad so she did

a google on oleander and realized that it could help my prostate cancer IF I followed directions exactly! She agreed that I could continue BUT only if I started out slow. I'm not going to take any soup until I get some energy back. I was just thinking that I may have boiled my oleander soup down to a thicker degree and should have taken lesser amounts in starting out. I cut it 50/50 with organic apple cider vinegar This was a terrible experience and so I'm going to proceed very carefully.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply. Well, I bought 3 potted plants at Home Depot here in south Florida so that's what I used. I ride bike alot so I'm always looking for some oleanders but I have not found any yet. I understand there are several different verities so I take a leaf along with while I ride. I'm hoping the plants I have will grow and then I can use the new leaves. This is Saturday and I am kinda back to normal.

-" May" oleander soup Subject: Re: Overdose on Olenader?Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:31:55 -0700 (PDT)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Winston, I am so sorry to hear this. Did you boil it the appropriate time? That is very important. Also, as Tony pointed out, are you sure there were no pesticides on that plant? Follow the directions that Tony and Dr. Goebel gave you. Feel better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

May

 

The Best Years in Life (under construction).......

/

http://thecorner4women.com

"Empowering Women Throughout the World"

http://dipetanesoutheast.com

 

 

Winston <winstonb (AT) mail (DOT) com>oleander soup Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:39:15 AM Overdose on Olenader?

 

I had a terrible experience last night. Yesterday morning I took a measured 1/4 tsp of the soup and after supper I took what I thought was about 1/4 because I just took a sip out of the bottle. A little while later I started to shiver and felt cold. I also felt like I had no energy so I went to bed with covers on me. A little later I started sweating and felt like I could throw up but I didn't. My body hurt. All through the night I alternetly went from shivering to sweating. It was terrible. I felt like I was going to die. I even thought about going to the emergency room but held out. My wife was wondering what was going on. I let her read the recipe for the oleandeer soup. She asked why one has to use rubber gloves to handle the toxic plant and a few hours later after making the soup one can now drink the stuff. At this point I couldn't even talk because I felt so bad so she did a google on oleander and realized that it could help my prostate cancer IF I followed directions exactly! She agreed that I could continue BUT only if I started out slow. I'm not going to take any soup until I get some energy back. I was just thinking that I may have boiled my oleander soup down to a thicker degree and should have taken lesser amounts in starting out. I cut it 50/50 with organic apple cider vinegar This was a terrible experience and so I'm going to proceed very carefully.

 

 

 

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