Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 In a message dated 7/17/2007 5:28:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jeffery.jack writes: Kombucha Tea, I sometimes wonder about the use of this product since it is a full spectrum antibiotic and do we really need that constantly in our bodies? especially since it can decimate the bacteria in our gut. David Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hello to all, It has been a while since I made a post. I don't really like to post unless it is pertaining to OS. So I will fill you all in on the most recent. I had a lady come and visit me the other day. She is on her 3rd bout of breast CA. First two were primarily modern cancer treatment (chemo and surgery). She now has mets. to multiple places in her body, but they have not had a PET Scan yet to identify all of the locations. She does not want to do chemo or radiation and she already had bilat. mastectomy. She started taking OS last week and is tapering up the dose. She is also starting to eat very healthy, take Flax Oil/Cottage Cheese mixture 1/2 cup 2 x per day, ESSIAC tea, Kombucha Tea, Jucing greens from the yard and garden (dandilion, lamb's quarters, yellow dock, various grasses and small amounts of bind weed), Trace minerals, Lugol's solution, Mega doses of Vit. C, Homemade Super Green Drink made up of (Alfalfa Leaf powder, Barley Grass powder, Pao D'Arco, Cat's Claw, Beet Powder, and Azomite), Enteric Coated Pancreatic Enzymes, Digestive enzymes, and apricot seeds. She does not have a lot of money so she is trying to stick to things that she can do on a budget. Speaking of a budget. I found a company that sells Wildcrafted Pao D'Arco for $5.00 per pound and many other organic or wildcrafted herbs for very reasonable prices. This is where we are getting the above mentioned herbs and grass powders. The name of the company is Pacific Botanicals and their website is pacificbotanicals.com. I have ordered many products from them and they are very high quality and all organic. Please pray for this lady. Her name is Mary Ann. I will try and keep you all posted how she is doing. The main thing I am concerned about is dicipline to be strict with her eating habits and sticking to taking the supplements. I also wrote some time ago about a 14 year old boy with the Brain Tumor. He passed away some time ago. The family opted to stop doing everything becasue he declined so rapidly. It has been a real sturggle for them, but they are coping well. Blessings to all, Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks for the update Jeff and the information on the source of botanicals - I will have to take a look. We will keep Mary Ann in our thoughts and prayers. oleander soup , " jeffery.jack " <jeffery.jack wrote: > > Hello to all, > It has been a while since I made a post. I don't really like to > post unless it is pertaining to OS. So I will fill you all in on > the most recent. I had a lady come and visit me the other day. She > is on her 3rd bout of breast CA. First two were primarily modern > cancer treatment (chemo and surgery). She now has mets. to multiple > places in her body, but they have not had a PET Scan yet to identify > all of the locations. She does not want to do chemo or radiation > and she already had bilat. mastectomy. She started taking OS last > week and is tapering up the dose. She is also starting to eat very > healthy, take Flax Oil/Cottage Cheese mixture 1/2 cup 2 x per day, > ESSIAC tea, Kombucha Tea, Jucing greens from the yard and garden > (dandilion, lamb's quarters, yellow dock, various grasses and small > amounts of bind weed), Trace minerals, Lugol's solution, Mega doses > of Vit. C, Homemade Super Green Drink made up of (Alfalfa Leaf > powder, Barley Grass powder, Pao D'Arco, Cat's Claw, Beet Powder, > and Azomite), Enteric Coated Pancreatic Enzymes, Digestive enzymes, > and apricot seeds. > She does not have a lot of money so she is trying to stick to things > that she can do on a budget. Speaking of a budget. I found a > company that sells Wildcrafted Pao D'Arco for $5.00 per pound and > many other organic or wildcrafted herbs for very reasonable prices. > This is where we are getting the above mentioned herbs and grass > powders. The name of the company is Pacific Botanicals and their > website is pacificbotanicals.com. I have ordered many products from > them and they are very high quality and all organic. > Please pray for this lady. Her name is Mary Ann. I will try and > keep you all posted how she is doing. The main thing I am concerned > about is dicipline to be strict with her eating habits and sticking > to taking the supplements. > I also wrote some time ago about a 14 year old boy with the Brain > Tumor. He passed away some time ago. The family opted to stop > doing everything becasue he declined so rapidly. It has been a real > sturggle for them, but they are coping well. > > Blessings to all, > > Jeff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 In a message dated 7/17/2007 4:57:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pgriff writes: ....how is it an antibiotic and how does it work.?....thanks Pam NZ It's been studied by Andrew Weil, and tho I often disagree w/ him, he's investigated it in depth. It's an antibiotic because it's a mold (and so was penicillin) and it works by attacking bacteria. Being a full spectrum antibiotic, it attacks all bacteria, including the good ones. At least this is what I've learned reading Weil. DavidGet a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I have periods where I make and take the tea and then get sick of it etc and lapse for a time....I was under the impression that it was more a tonic...how is it an antibiotic and how does it work.?....thanks Pam NZ - ahzoov oleander soup Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:15 AM Re: Oleander Update In a message dated 7/17/2007 5:28:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jeffery.jack writes: Kombucha Tea, I sometimes wonder about the use of this product since it is a full spectrum antibiotic and do we really need that constantly in our bodies? especially since it can decimate the bacteria in our gut. David Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release 7/16/2007 5:42 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I feel like such a novice on here. That said, wouldn't collodial silver work like an antibiotic, but without the " mold " ? Janna > > ahzoov > 2007/07/17 Tue PM 07:02:54 EDT > oleander soup > Re: Oleander Update > > > In a message dated 7/17/2007 4:57:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > pgriff writes: > > ...how is it an antibiotic and how does it work.?....thanks Pam NZ > > > It's been studied by Andrew Weil, and tho I often disagree w/ him, he's > investigated it in depth. > > It's an antibiotic because it's a mold (and so was penicillin) and it works > by attacking bacteria. Being a full spectrum antibiotic, it attacks all > bacteria, including the good ones. > > At least this is what I've learned reading Weil. > > David > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Colloidal Silver is deadly for a great many one-celled organisms. It too is non-specific and kills the good ones along with the bad ones/pathogens. One should always supplement with a good pro-biotic while taking colloidal silver, or, as I do, supplement during a " rest period " after a few weeks regimen of taking colloidal silver. With some supplements I like to have intervals of rest. Examples include colloidal silver, inositol/IP6 and echinacea. I do not take breaks with oleander. I just know someone is going to ask my " why " . :- ) oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > I feel like such a novice on here. That said, wouldn't collodial silver work like an antibiotic, but without > the " mold " ? Janna > > > > ahzoov > > 2007/07/17 Tue PM 07:02:54 EDT > > oleander soup > > Re: Oleander Update > > > > > > In a message dated 7/17/2007 4:57:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > pgriff writes: > > > > ...how is it an antibiotic and how does it work.?....thanks Pam NZ > > > > > > It's been studied by Andrew Weil, and tho I often disagree w/ him, he's > > investigated it in depth. > > > > It's an antibiotic because it's a mold (and so was penicillin) and it works > > by attacking bacteria. Being a full spectrum antibiotic, it attacks all > > bacteria, including the good ones. > > > > At least this is what I've learned reading Weil. > > > > David > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Thanks for the info. I am on a good probiotic with the colloidial silver. Okay, since I feel like the novice in the group in terms of understanding what all these herbs and supplements do, I'll bite: why? Janna ;-) > > " Tony " > 2007/07/17 Tue PM 08:39:49 EDT > oleander soup > Re: Oleander Update > > Colloidal Silver is deadly for a great many one-celled organisms. It > too is non-specific and kills the good ones along with the bad > ones/pathogens. One should always supplement with a good pro-biotic > while taking colloidal silver, or, as I do, supplement during a " rest > period " after a few weeks regimen of taking colloidal silver. With > some supplements I like to have intervals of rest. Examples include > colloidal silver, inositol/IP6 and echinacea. I do not take breaks > with oleander. > > I just know someone is going to ask my " why " . > > :- ) > > > > > > oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > > > I feel like such a novice on here. That said, wouldn't collodial > silver work like an antibiotic, but without > > the " mold " ? Janna > > > > > > ahzoov > > > 2007/07/17 Tue PM 07:02:54 EDT > > > oleander soup > > > Re: Oleander Update > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/17/2007 4:57:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > pgriff writes: > > > > > > ...how is it an antibiotic and how does it work.?....thanks Pam NZ > > > > > > > > > It's been studied by Andrew Weil, and tho I often disagree w/ him, > he's > > > investigated it in depth. > > > > > > It's an antibiotic because it's a mold (and so was penicillin) and > it works > > > by attacking bacteria. Being a full spectrum antibiotic, it > attacks all > > > bacteria, including the good ones. > > > > > > At least this is what I've learned reading Weil. > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the > all-new AOL at > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Janna - I think that many of the supplements are more effective if we do not let our bodies become accustomed to them. Plus, in some instances, our bodies can some to depend on supplements for things it should be naturally producing. By definition a " supplement " is something that adds to, not replaces. In other instances, such as colloidal silver or the Kambuch tea, the actions of the supplement may need to be counteracted. Echinacea is an example of an immune booster that loses it's effectiveness if taken for too long at a time. Inositol/IP6 may prevent the body from metabolizing minerals properly, may possibly even cause the body to pull some minerals, such as calcium and magnesium out of the bones. One thing I do NOT give a rest period to is oleander. A little secret - you are no novice, just inquisitive and not afraid to ask questions. Besides, some of us are not nearly as wise as we may appear - we just know how to " Google " well. Which reminds me, after Orus's post, I need to look up " fungus " cancers . . . oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > Thanks for the info. I am on a good probiotic with the colloidial silver. > Okay, since I feel like the novice in the group in terms of understanding what all these herbs and > supplements do, I'll bite: why? Janna ;-) > > > > " Tony " > > 2007/07/17 Tue PM 08:39:49 EDT > > oleander soup > > Re: Oleander Update > > > > Colloidal Silver is deadly for a great many one-celled organisms. It > > too is non-specific and kills the good ones along with the bad > > ones/pathogens. One should always supplement with a good pro-biotic > > while taking colloidal silver, or, as I do, supplement during a " rest > > period " after a few weeks regimen of taking colloidal silver. With > > some supplements I like to have intervals of rest. Examples include > > colloidal silver, inositol/IP6 and echinacea. I do not take breaks > > with oleander. > > > > I just know someone is going to ask my " why " . > > > > :- ) > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , <cr8iveart@> wrote: > > > > > > I feel like such a novice on here. That said, wouldn't collodial > > silver work like an antibiotic, but without > > > the " mold " ? Janna > > > > > > > > ahzoov@ > > > > 2007/07/17 Tue PM 07:02:54 EDT > > > > oleander soup > > > > Re: Oleander Update > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/17/2007 4:57:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > > pgriff@ writes: > > > > > > > > ...how is it an antibiotic and how does it work.?....thanks Pam NZ > > > > > > > > > > > > It's been studied by Andrew Weil, and tho I often disagree w/ him, > > he's > > > > investigated it in depth. > > > > > > > > It's an antibiotic because it's a mold (and so was penicillin) and > > it works > > > > by attacking bacteria. Being a full spectrum antibiotic, it > > attacks all > > > > bacteria, including the good ones. > > > > > > > > At least this is what I've learned reading Weil. > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the > > all-new AOL at > > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 This is so sad! I will keep Mary Anne in my prayers. May The Best Years in Life (under construction)....... / http://thecorner4women.com "Empowering Women Throughout the World" http://dipetanesoutheast.com jeffery.jack <jeffery.jackoleander soup Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:26:38 AM Oleander Update Hello to all,It has been a while since I made a post. I don't really like to post unless it is pertaining to OS. So I will fill you all in on the most recent. I had a lady come and visit me the other day. She is on her 3rd bout of breast CA. First two were primarily modern cancer treatment (chemo and surgery). She now has mets. to multiple places in her body, but they have not had a PET Scan yet to identify all of the locations. She does not want to do chemo or radiation and she already had bilat. mastectomy. She started taking OS last week and is tapering up the dose. She is also starting to eat very healthy, take Flax Oil/Cottage Cheese mixture 1/2 cup 2 x per day, ESSIAC tea, Kombucha Tea, Jucing greens from the yard and garden (dandilion, lamb's quarters, yellow dock, various grasses and small amounts of bind weed), Trace minerals, Lugol's solution, Mega doses of Vit. C, Homemade Super Green Drink made up of (Alfalfa Leaf powder, Barley Grass powder, Pao D'Arco, Cat's Claw, Beet Powder, and Azomite), Enteric Coated Pancreatic Enzymes, Digestive enzymes, and apricot seeds. She does not have a lot of money so she is trying to stick to things that she can do on a budget. Speaking of a budget. I found a company that sells Wildcrafted Pao D'Arco for $5.00 per pound and many other organic or wildcrafted herbs for very reasonable prices. This is where we are getting the above mentioned herbs and grass powders. The name of the company is Pacific Botanicals and their website is pacificbotanicals. com. I have ordered many products from them and they are very high quality and all organic. Please pray for this lady. Her name is Mary Ann. I will try and keep you all posted how she is doing. The main thing I am concerned about is dicipline to be strict with her eating habits and sticking to taking the supplements. I also wrote some time ago about a 14 year old boy with the Brain Tumor. He passed away some time ago. The family opted to stop doing everything becasue he declined so rapidly. It has been a real sturggle for them, but they are coping well. Blessings to all,Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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