A regimen of low dose chemotherapy and angiogenesis inhibitors

[Guest guest]

Any thoughts on this? . . .

 

Cancer Protocol. The Treatment and Management of Cancer Today. A regimen

of low dose chemotherapy and angiogenesis inhibitors.

 

http://www.cancerprotocol.com/

http://www.cancerprotocol.com/low_dose_chemotherapy.html

[Guest guest]

I think it may have promise. If you read the first few paragraphs it first states that 55% of people survive with chemo etc then it says 45% will then succumb to the cancer..Not good. I know low dose chemo along with polymva has been used with excellent results so if those inhibitors can be used properly it has a chance of working. Also low dose chemo does not destroy all the good cells that the body needs and it gives the body a chance. Do you remember the pharmacists in the mid west who was arrested for diluting the chemo. No one mentioned that all those chemo patients were alive and doing well. Their lives were probably enhanced because of the low dose of chemo they received...If one can go the natural route it is preferrerable if not then this may be an option for the 1.25 mill new cancer patients....Janicerobert-blau wrote: Any thoughts on this? . . . Cancer Protocol. The Treatment and Management of Cancer Today. A regimen of low dose chemotherapy and angiogenesis inhibitors. http://www.cancerprotocol.com/ http://www.cancerprotocol.com/low_dose_chemotherapy.html

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[Guest guest]

It makes more sense than just slashing, burning or poisoning away, but

is still managed illness.

 

" Imagine cancer as like an infection or chronic disease where patients

can live long times with therapy that's tolerable, " said Dr. Lee

Rosen, a cancer researcher at UCLA. " While we should all work toward

the cure for cancer, I would be very satisfied if I could look a

patient in the eye and say, 'I can keep you alive for thirty years

with something that doesn't make you lose your hair or make you

nauseated ...and give a good quality of life. "

 

A long term therapy that's tolerable? Yes mainstream medicine would

indeed be very satisfied with that for just about any condition - it

appears that is the way mainstream medicine treats just about every

condition. It is the maximum profit, minimum cure method that I despise.

 

It IS preferable over death, but I for one believe that most cancer

sufferers need not have to make that choice. Now, if only they would

offer detox/cleaning, proper diet and lifestyle, and natural immune

boosting and cancer fighting supplementation as the first option and

perhaps THEN look at the low level poisoning (chemo). . .

 

Make no mistake, chemo is not medicating, chemo is poisoning. It is

not a drug that treats an infection or strengthens or improves the

body in any way. It is a dose of poison intended to kill or inhibit

cancer cells.

 

 

oleander soup , Preferred Customer

<commonsense2265 wrote:

>

> I think it may have promise. If you read the first few paragraphs it

first states that 55% of people survive with chemo etc then it says

45% will then succumb to the cancer..Not good. I know low dose chemo

along with polymva has been used with excellent results so if those

inhibitors can be used properly it has a chance of working.

> Also low dose chemo does not destroy all the good cells that the

body needs and it gives the body a chance. Do you remember the

pharmacists in the mid west who was arrested for diluting the chemo.

No one mentioned that all those chemo patients were alive and doing

well. Their lives were probably enhanced because of the low dose of

chemo they received...

> If one can go the natural route it is preferrerable if not then this

may be an option for the 1.25 mill new cancer patients....Janice

>

> robert-blau wrote: Any thoughts

on this? . . .

>

> Cancer Protocol. The Treatment and Management of Cancer Today. A

regimen

> of low dose chemotherapy and angiogenesis inhibitors.

>

> http://www.cancerprotocol.com/

> http://www.cancerprotocol.com/low_dose_chemotherapy.html

 

> The fish are biting.

> Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.

>

[Guest guest]

Tony you forgot to mention human nature and their wish for a quick fix...There a thousands out there now who know that natural heals but do not want to take the time or energy to put it in place....You are speaking of a perfect world, I think in our lifetime we will see changes toward this direction but only after several great calamities occur... everyone is too complacent, it does not affect them directly (they thin) so why bother...JaniceTony wrote: It makes more sense than just slashing, burning or poisoning

away, but is still managed illness. "Imagine cancer as like an infection or chronic disease where patients can live long times with therapy that's tolerable," said Dr. Lee Rosen, a cancer researcher at UCLA. "While we should all work toward the cure for cancer, I would be very satisfied if I could look a patient in the eye and say, 'I can keep you alive for thirty years with something that doesn't make you lose your hair or make you nauseated ...and give a good quality of life." A long term therapy that's tolerable? Yes mainstream medicine would indeed be very satisfied with that for just about any condition - it appears that is the way mainstream medicine treats just about every condition. It is the maximum profit, minimum cure method that I despise. It IS preferable over death, but I for one believe that most cancer sufferers need not have to make that choice. Now, if only they would offer

detox/cleaning, proper diet and lifestyle, and natural immune boosting and cancer fighting supplementation as the first option and perhaps THEN look at the low level poisoning (chemo). . . Make no mistake, chemo is not medicating, chemo is poisoning. It is not a drug that treats an infection or strengthens or improves the body in any way. It is a dose of poison intended to kill or inhibit cancer cells. Tony oleander soup , Preferred Customer <commonsense2265 wrote: > > I think it may have promise. If you read the first few paragraphs it first states that 55% of people survive with chemo etc then it says 45% will then succumb to the cancer..Not good. I know low dose chemo along with polymva has been used with excellent results so if those inhibitors can be used properly it has a chance of

working. > Also low dose chemo does not destroy all the good cells that the body needs and it gives the body a chance. Do you remember the pharmacists in the mid west who was arrested for diluting the chemo. No one mentioned that all those chemo patients were alive and doing well. Their lives were probably enhanced because of the low dose of chemo they received... > If one can go the natural route it is preferrerable if not then this may be an option for the 1.25 mill new cancer patients....Janice > > robert-blau wrote: Any thoughts on this? . . . > > Cancer Protocol. The Treatment and Management of Cancer Today. A regimen > of low dose chemotherapy and angiogenesis inhibitors. > > http://www.cancerprotocol.com/ > http://www.cancerprotocol.com/low_dose_chemotherapy.html > > > > > > > > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. >

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[Guest guest]

It is the nature of most people these days to seek the " quick fix " ,

although I think that applies more to prevention than treatment. More

people would rather opt for the quick and easy fast foods, tap water,

household chemicals, sedentary couch potato lifestyle, etc. instead of

take the measures necessary to prevent cancer.

 

However, i think that most people become very serious when they are

actually diagnosed with cancer - and would choose to longterm good

health over a quick fix that offered poor chances of longterm success

and the likelihood of longterm problems . . . IF only they knew about

the natural alternative and were able to look outside the box that Big

Pharma and mainstream medicine has locked them in.

 

I am not talking or even dreaming of a perfect world - just one where

nature were given it's due instead of suppressed. It takes a lot of

faith right now for most people to choose nature over synthetic drugs

and barbaric treatments after trillions of dollars and a more than a

century spent ignoring, suppressing and vilifying what is natural and

promoting what isn't.

 

Despite over half a century of broken promises and abject failure to

achieve cures or breakthroughs, and despite clinging to the thoroughly

discredited and barbaric system of cutting, burning or poisoning away

symptoms, mainstream medicine still has most people fooled either

fooled completely or too scared to go against conventional treatments.

 

I hope you are right about changes in our direction. Sometimes it

seems more like swimming against the tide. If I had not started

investigating natural health and longevity years ago, I would likely

still be one of the fooled myself thinking who the heck is this Isaacs idiot to think he knows more than my professional oncologist or

that his snakeoil poisonious plant concoction is better than what

modern science and medicine has to offer!

 

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

 

 

oleander soup , Preferred Customer

<commonsense2265 wrote:

>

> Tony you forgot to mention human nature and their wish for a quick

fix...There a thousands out there now who know that natural heals but

do not want to take the time or energy to put it in place....You are

speaking of a perfect world, I think in our lifetime we will see

changes toward this direction but only after several great calamities

occur... everyone is too complacent, it does not affect them directly

(they thin) so why bother...Janice

>

> Tony wrote: It

makes more sense than just slashing, burning or poisoning away, but

> is still managed illness.

>

> " Imagine cancer as like an infection or chronic disease where patients

> can live long times with therapy that's tolerable, " said Dr. Lee

> Rosen, a cancer researcher at UCLA. " While we should all work toward

> the cure for cancer, I would be very satisfied if I could look a

> patient in the eye and say, 'I can keep you alive for thirty years

> with something that doesn't make you lose your hair or make you

> nauseated ...and give a good quality of life. "

>

> A long term therapy that's tolerable? Yes mainstream medicine would

> indeed be very satisfied with that for just about any condition - it

> appears that is the way mainstream medicine treats just about every

> condition. It is the maximum profit, minimum cure method that I

despise.

>

> It IS preferable over death, but I for one believe that most cancer

> sufferers need not have to make that choice. Now, if only they would

> offer detox/cleaning, proper diet and lifestyle, and natural immune

> boosting and cancer fighting supplementation as the first option and

> perhaps THEN look at the low level poisoning (chemo). . .

>

> Make no mistake, chemo is not medicating, chemo is poisoning. It is

> not a drug that treats an infection or strengthens or improves the

> body in any way. It is a dose of poison intended to kill or inhibit

> cancer cells.

>

> Tony

[Guest guest]

Your response is very true, Tony. It has taken a lot for me to go to the

alternative route. It has

happened after watching five relatives slowly die and being diagnosed with

cancer myself. It is

difficult to wade through the stuff out there to know which alternatives are for

real and which are not. It

is especially hard when one of the drs. said to me that when I take vitamins

and supplements, all that

I was doing was making expensive piss. I asked him if he had ever had three

biopsies and surgery for

prostate cancer and would he not take his vitamin/mineral supplement everyday,

or did he think that

that was just nonsense? He said we just have a difference of opinion about how

much is too much. I

got up and walked out of his office, and haven't been back since. But, the

average person on the

street may still believe that drs can do miracles and don't trust their bodies.

It is a leap of faith that you

can learn what you need to repair your body and heal. A lot of people don't

believe in themselves that

way. Just my thoughts. Janna

>

> " Tony "

> 2007/07/17 Tue PM 03:07:42 EDT

> oleander soup

> Re: A regimen of low dose chemotherapy and

angiogenesis inhibitors

>

> It is the nature of most people these days to seek the " quick fix " ,

> although I think that applies more to prevention than treatment. More

> people would rather opt for the quick and easy fast foods, tap water,

> household chemicals, sedentary couch potato lifestyle, etc. instead of

> take the measures necessary to prevent cancer.

>

> However, i think that most people become very serious when they are

> actually diagnosed with cancer - and would choose to longterm good

> health over a quick fix that offered poor chances of longterm success

> and the likelihood of longterm problems . . . IF only they knew about

> the natural alternative and were able to look outside the box that Big

> Pharma and mainstream medicine has locked them in.

>

> I am not talking or even dreaming of a perfect world - just one where

> nature were given it's due instead of suppressed. It takes a lot of

> faith right now for most people to choose nature over synthetic drugs

> and barbaric treatments after trillions of dollars and a more than a

> century spent ignoring, suppressing and vilifying what is natural and

> promoting what isn't.

>

> Despite over half a century of broken promises and abject failure to

> achieve cures or breakthroughs, and despite clinging to the thoroughly

> discredited and barbaric system of cutting, burning or poisoning away

> symptoms, mainstream medicine still has most people fooled either

> fooled completely or too scared to go against conventional treatments.

>

> I hope you are right about changes in our direction. Sometimes it

> seems more like swimming against the tide. If I had not started

> investigating natural health and longevity years ago, I would likely

> still be one of the fooled myself thinking who the heck is this > Isaacs idiot to think he knows more than my professional oncologist or

> that his snakeoil poisonious plant concoction is better than what

> modern science and medicine has to offer!

>

> Live long, live healthy, live happy!

>

> >

> oleander soup , Preferred Customer

> <commonsense2265 wrote:

> >

> > Tony you forgot to mention human nature and their wish for a quick

> fix...There a thousands out there now who know that natural heals but

> do not want to take the time or energy to put it in place....You are

> speaking of a perfect world, I think in our lifetime we will see

> changes toward this direction but only after several great calamities

> occur... everyone is too complacent, it does not affect them directly

> (they thin) so why bother...Janice

> >

> > Tony wrote: It

> makes more sense than just slashing, burning or poisoning away, but

> > is still managed illness.

> >

> > " Imagine cancer as like an infection or chronic disease where patients

> > can live long times with therapy that's tolerable, " said Dr. Lee

> > Rosen, a cancer researcher at UCLA. " While we should all work toward

> > the cure for cancer, I would be very satisfied if I could look a

> > patient in the eye and say, 'I can keep you alive for thirty years

> > with something that doesn't make you lose your hair or make you

> > nauseated ...and give a good quality of life. "

> >

> > A long term therapy that's tolerable? Yes mainstream medicine would

> > indeed be very satisfied with that for just about any condition - it

> > appears that is the way mainstream medicine treats just about every

> > condition. It is the maximum profit, minimum cure method that I

> despise.

> >

> > It IS preferable over death, but I for one believe that most cancer

> > sufferers need not have to make that choice. Now, if only they would

> > offer detox/cleaning, proper diet and lifestyle, and natural immune

> > boosting and cancer fighting supplementation as the first option and

> > perhaps THEN look at the low level poisoning (chemo). . .

> >

> > Make no mistake, chemo is not medicating, chemo is poisoning. It is

> > not a drug that treats an infection or strengthens or improves the

> > body in any way. It is a dose of poison intended to kill or inhibit

> > cancer cells.

> >

> > >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that cancer patients would prefer to try herbal remedies if

they were more aware that it was effective. Chemotherapy is harmful

to the body and kills good cells but ppl. do it anyway because that

is exactly what the doctor orders. Mainstream Americans do not go

looking for alternative cures. They are so trusting of their

doctors that they do exactly as the doctor orders. The worse thing

is that doctors tell you to do this or take that and just expect you

to do it. I recently had a cyst and my doctor was not open to me

trying herbal alternatives at all. I had to have surgery and now I

will be switching doctors, but doctors lack compassion for patients

and all they care about is money and wanting you to stay on

something or do this or that so you end up having to be in their

office more often....for the money.

 

Cancer patients in the beginning stage still trust that chemo will

help them, although it will end up making them feel more sick and

does not guarantee they will live. It destroys their lives....but

they never thought to look at alternative healing methods....That's

just how our society seems to function. Only people who have come

in touch with herbal/natural healing will finally turn to it after

all else has failed.

 

There would be more data available if ppl. were more aware of what's

available out there.

[Guest guest]

I am not sure if it is as simple of just being aware of what is out there. The amount of medical brainwashing is appalling. The worst part is that it has been very subtle brainwashing, growing throughout the years. And now here we are. Some of us have woken up. Others still sleep. While some will try natural alternatives when there is no more hope, some take their doctor's word for it and accept the fact that they are dying. In fact, where I'm at, now doctors don't tell you a thing. They merely introduce hospice to your lifestyle and they give you a song and a dance. They have you believing that why, this is just to make it easier for you. When my mother was put on hospice and was given this song and dance, I bluntly asked the nurse how long she had. Bear in mind, I knew nothing about natural alternatives. This is how I learned about them. I paid a huge price, my

mother's life. The nurse told me two months. With emotions running high and my trying to do everything in the world to make her comfortable and happy, I really didn't realize until now, the sequence of events of the day she died. Exactly two months from the day she was put on hospice. A different nurse came in and while she was there my mother died of a massive heart attack. Two years later I find all this odd. Strange sequence of events. Was this merely coincidence, or are we just disposable people. Uh.... Time's up! I have always felt a burden in my heart for the sudden and rapid way that she died with a nurse standing there telling me to let her go. Two years later when my thoughts are finally settling down I think..... Something is wrong.

 

Had I known what I know today when she first came to live with me, she would still be alive. I got off the track a bit.

My point is that there is a sequence of events in the medical profession that the patient does not realize. They just unknowingly follow directions and go through the different phases, until they die.

 

We caregivers need to keep our eyes open and realize what is going on. Would I advise anyone to take chemo? No! Not ever! Go to a Naturopath. Doctors don't even want you taking vitamins. Why would I go to someone who will "treat" me until my body gives out so I can be put in a holding pattern and then disposed of? I don't care how angry they get and I have been in front of some very angry doctors. The thing to do before you get sick is lead a healthy lifestyle, starting this very moment. Get your body perfectly alkalined. If the person is sick, follow Tony's directions. Take the proper supplements, get the proper exercise, eat the proper diet. Drinking sodas and eating junk foods is an addiction and a habit that need to be overcome. Your life depends on it. This is the way to go. I would never destroy my body with chemo. I would tell the doctor, "Thank

you very much," and go find natural alternatives where I stand a much better chance of getting well and not have the cancer return.

 

It is so hard to inform the general public because they have been brainwashed and taught to fear natural alternatives and "people like us." We need to get past that and start educating them when they are well because once they're sick they panic and you know what happens when you panic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

May

 

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hsvue93 <hsvue93oleander soup Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:40:35 AM Re: A regimen of low dose chemotherapy and angiogenesis inhibitors

 

I think that cancer patients would prefer to try herbal remedies if they were more aware that it was effective. Chemotherapy is harmful to the body and kills good cells but ppl. do it anyway because that is exactly what the doctor orders. Mainstream Americans do not go looking for alternative cures. They are so trusting of their doctors that they do exactly as the doctor orders. The worse thing is that doctors tell you to do this or take that and just expect you to do it. I recently had a cyst and my doctor was not open to me trying herbal alternatives at all. I had to have surgery and now I will be switching doctors, but doctors lack compassion for patients and all they care about is money and wanting you to stay on something or do this or that so you end up having to be in their office more often....for the money.Cancer patients in the beginning stage still trust that chemo will help them, although it will

end up making them feel more sick and does not guarantee they will live. It destroys their lives....but they never thought to look at alternative healing methods....That' s just how our society seems to function. Only people who have come in touch with herbal/natural healing will finally turn to it after all else has failed.There would be more data available if ppl. were more aware of what's available out there.

[Guest guest]

May:How sad that you had to go thru this experience but take heart that you have learned how to look after yourself. It is not simplistic this answer but in today's world people are in a hurry and there are 2 kinds of people..Those whom want to find something new and those that will believe the doctor no matter what. yes we are brainwashed daily by the doctors, media, TV etc..But a lot of people are only interested inthe now and how much fun they can have. Our family was brought up on doing things the natural way etc (I still came down with cancer) but I would not have lived this long if it was not for natural health that I learned. My genetic defect came up and got me... We just have to keep spreading the word and keep learning and spreading the word..Take care Janice May <luellamay129 wrote: I am not sure if it is as simple of just being aware of what is out there. The amount of medical brainwashing is appalling. The worst part is that it has been very subtle brainwashing, growing throughout the years. And now here we are. Some of us have woken up. Others still sleep. While some will try natural alternatives when there is no more hope, some take their doctor's word for it and accept the fact that they are dying. In fact, where I'm at, now doctors don't tell you a thing. They

merely introduce hospice to your lifestyle and they give you a song and a dance. They have you believing that why, this is just to make it easier for you. When my mother was put on hospice and was given this song and dance, I bluntly asked the nurse how long she had. Bear in mind, I knew nothing about natural alternatives. This is how I learned about them. I paid a huge price, my mother's life. The nurse told me two months. With emotions running high and my trying to do everything in the world to make her comfortable and happy, I really didn't realize until now, the sequence of events of the day she died. Exactly two months from the day she was put on hospice. A different nurse came in and while she was there my mother died of a massive heart attack. Two years later I find all this odd. Strange sequence of events. Was this merely coincidence, or are we

just disposable people. Uh.... Time's up! I have always felt a burden in my heart for the sudden and rapid way that she died with a nurse standing there telling me to let her go. Two years later when my thoughts are finally settling down I think..... Something is wrong. Had I known what I know today when she first came to live with me, she would still be alive. I got off the track a bit. My point is that there is a sequence of events in the medical profession that the patient does not realize. They just unknowingly follow directions and go through the different phases, until they die. We caregivers need to keep our eyes open and realize what is going on. Would I advise anyone to take chemo? No! Not ever! Go to a Naturopath. Doctors don't even want you taking vitamins. Why would I go to someone who

will "treat" me until my body gives out so I can be put in a holding pattern and then disposed of? I don't care how angry they get and I have been in front of some very angry doctors. The thing to do before you get sick is lead a healthy lifestyle, starting this very moment. Get your body perfectly alkalined. If the person is sick, follow Tony's directions. Take the proper supplements, get the proper exercise, eat the proper diet. Drinking sodas and eating junk foods is an addiction and a habit that need to be overcome. Your life depends on it. This is the way to go. I would never destroy my body with chemo. I would tell the doctor, "Thank you very much," and go find natural alternatives where I stand a much better chance of getting well and not have the cancer return. It is so hard to inform the general public because they have been brainwashed and taught to fear

natural alternatives and "people like us." We need to get past that and start educating them when they are well because once they're sick they panic and you know what happens when you panic. May The Best Years in Life (under

construction)....... / http://thecorner4women.com "Empowering Women Throughout the World" http://dipetanesoutheast.com hsvue93 <hsvue93 >To:

oleander soup Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:40:35 AM Re: A regimen of low dose chemotherapy and angiogenesis inhibitors I think that cancer patients would prefer to try herbal remedies if they were more aware that it was effective. Chemotherapy is harmful to the body and kills good cells but ppl. do it anyway because that is exactly what the doctor orders. Mainstream Americans do not go looking for alternative cures. They are so trusting of their doctors that they do exactly as the doctor orders. The worse thing is that doctors tell you to do this or take that and just expect you to do it. I recently had a cyst and my doctor was not open to me trying herbal alternatives at all. I had to have surgery and now I will be switching doctors, but doctors lack compassion for patients and all they care about is money and wanting you to stay on

something or do this or that so you end up having to be in their office more often....for the money.Cancer patients in the beginning stage still trust that chemo will help them, although it will end up making them feel more sick and does not guarantee they will live. It destroys their lives....but they never thought to look at alternative healing methods....That' s just how our society seems to function. Only people who have come in touch with herbal/natural healing will finally turn to it after all else has failed.There would be more data available if ppl. were more aware of what's available out there. Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

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