Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Once you have done your final filtration, there should be virtually no sediment. However, sediment will likely form after you combine with the preservative, and seems to do so more when vodka is used than when apple cider vinegar is used. More sediment also forms if you expose the extract to light and do not keep refrigerated. I believe that if you follow my updated instructions and filter through multiple coffee filter layers as a final filtration, you will find far less sediment forming later on. I have had two batches of OS where sediment has formed later on, and neither of those had been run through the coffee filters. In both instances, I filtered the sediment out by running the mix through several coffee filters, then added a bit of apple cider vinegar (my OS is plus strength to begin with) and never had a sediment problem since. Although I loved Medicine Man and am a huge fan of Sean Connery (it is NO coincidence that my son's name is SEAN), I DO wash the bugs off my oleander! I usually leave them on the food we cook out in the boonies on the BBQ though, depending upon how much blue agave we used for " seasoning " . . . oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > I was only suggesting washing the leaves at first when she got it from the nursery to remove any > pesticide residue or overspray, since I have never seen a nursery seperate the plants out very > carefully as to which ones got sprayed and which ones didn't. > > Since you said that about two layers forming, I remembered a post by Tony saying that there shouldnt > be a lot of sediment in the bottle. So, how does one know what is too much or what is the natural part > of the combining process? What color was your final mixture? Mine did not end up being what I would > call clear or even a " light " tea color. After two weeks of bowel problems, I decided that I hadnot > strained it enough. Can you clarify any of this Dr. Goebbel? Thanks, Janna > > > > Michael Goebel <goebelchx > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 12:47:33 EDT > > oleander soup > > Re: Re: She is special! > > > > Oleanders grow all over the south. Get yourself some and then grow them organically. After your > organic plants are growing, when you harvest them, you might want to leave some of the spiders, > mites, etc on them and not wash the plants. Just break or cut them up and put directly into the pot. > > > > Remember the rainforest movie w/ Sean Connery? The ants were more medicinal than the > flowers! > > > > After cooking and straining, you will remove any particulate matter anyway. > > > > After you add the vodka or gin, there are always 2 layers that form. Just put the mix in home > canning jars, and store in your refrigerator. Shake vigorously a few seconds before you take a dose. > I always wipe clean the mouth of the jar and the canning lid before replacing the lid on the jar. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Thanks, Tony - I am going to check the uploaded files again and try another batch. Still have cysts that I am tired of dealing with. The drs want to do another round of tests sometime between Oct and Dec. I figure that if I made a batch now, that that would give me 6 months to get rid of those. Janna > > " Tony " > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 03:44:47 EDT > oleander soup > Oleander sediment and filtration > > Once you have done your final filtration, there should be virtually no > sediment. However, sediment will likely form after you combine with > the preservative, and seems to do so more when vodka is used than when > apple cider vinegar is used. More sediment also forms if you expose > the extract to light and do not keep refrigerated. > > I believe that if you follow my updated instructions and filter > through multiple coffee filter layers as a final filtration, you will > find far less sediment forming later on. > > I have had two batches of OS where sediment has formed later on, and > neither of those had been run through the coffee filters. In both > instances, I filtered the sediment out by running the mix through > several coffee filters, then added a bit of apple cider vinegar (my OS > is plus strength to begin with) and never had a sediment problem since. > > Although I loved Medicine Man and am a huge fan of Sean Connery (it is > NO coincidence that my son's name is SEAN), I DO wash the bugs off my > oleander! > > I usually leave them on the food we cook out in the boonies on the BBQ > though, depending upon how much blue agave we used for " seasoning " . . . > > > > oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > > > I was only suggesting washing the leaves at first when she got it > from the nursery to remove any > > pesticide residue or overspray, since I have never seen a nursery > seperate the plants out very > > carefully as to which ones got sprayed and which ones didn't. > > > > Since you said that about two layers forming, I remembered a post by > Tony saying that there shouldnt > > be a lot of sediment in the bottle. So, how does one know what is > too much or what is the natural part > > of the combining process? What color was your final mixture? Mine > did not end up being what I would > > call clear or even a " light " tea color. After two weeks of bowel > problems, I decided that I hadnot > > strained it enough. Can you clarify any of this Dr. Goebbel? Thanks, > Janna > > > > > > Michael Goebel <goebelchx > > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 12:47:33 EDT > > > oleander soup > > > Re: Re: She is special! > > > > > > Oleanders grow all over the south. Get yourself some and then > grow them organically. After your > > organic plants are growing, when you harvest them, you might want to > leave some of the spiders, > > mites, etc on them and not wash the plants. Just break or cut them > up and put directly into the pot. > > > > > > Remember the rainforest movie w/ Sean Connery? The ants were > more medicinal than the > > flowers! > > > > > > After cooking and straining, you will remove any particulate > matter anyway. > > > > > > After you add the vodka or gin, there are always 2 layers that > form. Just put the mix in home > > canning jars, and store in your refrigerator. Shake vigorously a > few seconds before you take a dose. > > I always wipe clean the mouth of the jar and the canning lid before > replacing the lid on the jar. > > > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Have you tried inositol/IP6 or colloidal silver?The people I have been talking to here locally swear by both - and I hear again and again about how inositol/IP6 made tumors and lumps go away in nothing flat.Tony cr8iveart wrote: Thanks, Tony - I am going to check the uploaded files again and try another batch. Still have cysts that I am tired of dealing with. The drs want to do another round of tests sometime between Oct and Dec. I figure that if I made a batch now, that that would give me 6 months to get rid of those. Janna > > "Tony" > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 03:44:47 EDT > oleander soup > Oleander sediment and filtration > > Once you have done your final filtration, there should be virtually no > sediment. However, sediment will likely form after you combine with > the preservative, and seems to do so more when vodka is used than when > apple cider vinegar is used. More sediment also forms if you expose > the extract to light and do not keep refrigerated. > > I believe that if you follow my updated instructions and filter > through multiple coffee filter layers as a final filtration, you will > find far less sediment forming later on. > > I have had two batches of OS where sediment has formed later on, and > neither of those had been run through the coffee filters. In both > instances, I filtered the sediment out by running the mix through > several coffee filters, then added a bit of apple cider vinegar (my OS > is plus strength to begin with) and never had a sediment problem since. > > Although I loved Medicine Man and am a huge fan of Sean Connery (it is > NO coincidence that my son's name is SEAN), I DO wash the bugs off my > oleander! > > I usually leave them on the food we cook out in the boonies on the BBQ > though, depending upon how much blue agave we used for "seasoning" . . . > > Tony > > oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > > > I was only suggesting washing the leaves at first when she got it > from the nursery to remove any > > pesticide residue or overspray, since I have never seen a nursery > seperate the plants out very > > carefully as to which ones got sprayed and which ones didn't. > > > > Since you said that about two layers forming, I remembered a post by > Tony saying that there shouldnt > > be a lot of sediment in the bottle. So, how does one know what is > too much or what is the natural part > > of the combining process? What color was your final mixture? Mine > did not end up being what I would > > call clear or even a "light" tea color. After two weeks of bowel > problems, I decided that I hadnot > > strained it enough. Can you clarify any of this Dr. Goebbel? Thanks, > Janna > > > > > > Michael Goebel <goebelchx > > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 12:47:33 EDT > > > oleander soup > > > Re: Re: She is special! > > > > > > Oleanders grow all over the south. Get yourself some and then > grow them organically. After your > > organic plants are growing, when you harvest them, you might want to > leave some of the spiders, > > mites, etc on them and not wash the plants. Just break or cut them > up and put directly into the pot. > > > > > > Remember the rainforest movie w/ Sean Connery? The ants were > more medicinal than the > > flowers! > > > > > > After cooking and straining, you will remove any particulate > matter anyway. > > > > > > After you add the vodka or gin, there are always 2 layers that > form. Just put the mix in home > > canning jars, and store in your refrigerator. Shake vigorously a > few seconds before you take a dose. > > I always wipe clean the mouth of the jar and the canning lid before > replacing the lid on the jar. > > > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > web links. > > > > > > > > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I probably need to add that to the arsenal, especially since this is my left breast, where I had the cancer and have had two more cysts since then. I have made a decision that I will not have any more surgeries for cysts - 3 is more than enough. Thanks, Janna > > Tony Isaacs > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 05:47:58 EDT > oleander soup > Re: Oleander sediment and filtration > > Have you tried inositol/IP6 or colloidal silver? > > The people I have been talking to here locally swear by both - and I hear again and again about how inositol/IP6 made tumors and lumps go away in nothing flat. > > > > cr8iveart wrote: Thanks, Tony - I am going to check the uploaded files again and try another batch. Still have cysts > that I am tired of dealing with. The drs want to do another round of tests sometime between Oct and > Dec. I figure that if I made a batch now, that that would give me 6 months to get rid of those. Janna > > > > " Tony " > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 03:44:47 EDT > > oleander soup > > Oleander sediment and filtration > > > > Once you have done your final filtration, there should be virtually no > > sediment. However, sediment will likely form after you combine with > > the preservative, and seems to do so more when vodka is used than when > > apple cider vinegar is used. More sediment also forms if you expose > > the extract to light and do not keep refrigerated. > > > > I believe that if you follow my updated instructions and filter > > through multiple coffee filter layers as a final filtration, you will > > find far less sediment forming later on. > > > > I have had two batches of OS where sediment has formed later on, and > > neither of those had been run through the coffee filters. In both > > instances, I filtered the sediment out by running the mix through > > several coffee filters, then added a bit of apple cider vinegar (my OS > > is plus strength to begin with) and never had a sediment problem since. > > > > Although I loved Medicine Man and am a huge fan of Sean Connery (it is > > NO coincidence that my son's name is SEAN), I DO wash the bugs off my > > oleander! > > > > I usually leave them on the food we cook out in the boonies on the BBQ > > though, depending upon how much blue agave we used for " seasoning " . . . > > > > > > > > oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > > > > > I was only suggesting washing the leaves at first when she got it > > from the nursery to remove any > > > pesticide residue or overspray, since I have never seen a nursery > > seperate the plants out very > > > carefully as to which ones got sprayed and which ones didn't. > > > > > > Since you said that about two layers forming, I remembered a post by > > Tony saying that there shouldnt > > > be a lot of sediment in the bottle. So, how does one know what is > > too much or what is the natural part > > > of the combining process? What color was your final mixture? Mine > > did not end up being what I would > > > call clear or even a " light " tea color. After two weeks of bowel > > problems, I decided that I hadnot > > > strained it enough. Can you clarify any of this Dr. Goebbel? Thanks, > > Janna > > > > > > > > Michael Goebel <goebelchx > > > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 12:47:33 EDT > > > > oleander soup > > > > Re: Re: She is special! > > > > > > > > Oleanders grow all over the south. Get yourself some and then > > grow them organically. After your > > > organic plants are growing, when you harvest them, you might want to > > leave some of the spiders, > > > mites, etc on them and not wash the plants. Just break or cut them > > up and put directly into the pot. > > > > > > > > Remember the rainforest movie w/ Sean Connery? The ants were > > more medicinal than the > > > flowers! > > > > > > > > After cooking and straining, you will remove any particulate > > matter anyway. > > > > > > > > After you add the vodka or gin, there are always 2 layers that > > form. Just put the mix in home > > > canning jars, and store in your refrigerator. Shake vigorously a > > few seconds before you take a dose. > > > I always wipe clean the mouth of the jar and the canning lid before > > replacing the lid on the jar. > > > > > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Not trying to sell, but both of those are available at Utopia Silver and I would remind you that I have arranged for all members of the group to receive a 15% discount on anything they sell. (I do a lot of freebies for my very good friend Ben Taylor, who owns the company) oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > I probably need to add that to the arsenal, especially since this is my left breast, where I had the > cancer and have had two more cysts since then. I have made a decision that I will not have any more > surgeries for cysts - 3 is more than enough. Thanks, Janna > > > > Tony Isaacs > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 05:47:58 EDT > > oleander soup > > Re: Oleander sediment and filtration > > > > Have you tried inositol/IP6 or colloidal silver? > > > > The people I have been talking to here locally swear by both - and I hear again and again about > how inositol/IP6 made tumors and lumps go away in nothing flat. > > > > > > > > cr8iveart wrote: Thanks, - I am going to check the uploaded > files again and try another batch. Still have cysts > > that I am tired of dealing with. The drs want to do another round of tests sometime between Oct and > > Dec. I figure that if I made a batch now, that that would give me 6 months to get rid of those. Janna > > > > > > " Tony " > > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 03:44:47 EDT > > > oleander soup > > > Oleander sediment and filtration > > > > > > Once you have done your final filtration, there should be virtually no > > > sediment. However, sediment will likely form after you combine with > > > the preservative, and seems to do so more when vodka is used than when > > > apple cider vinegar is used. More sediment also forms if you expose > > > the extract to light and do not keep refrigerated. > > > > > > I believe that if you follow my updated instructions and filter > > > through multiple coffee filter layers as a final filtration, you will > > > find far less sediment forming later on. > > > > > > I have had two batches of OS where sediment has formed later on, and > > > neither of those had been run through the coffee filters. In both > > > instances, I filtered the sediment out by running the mix through > > > several coffee filters, then added a bit of apple cider vinegar (my OS > > > is plus strength to begin with) and never had a sediment problem since. > > > > > > Although I loved Medicine Man and am a huge fan of Sean Connery (it is > > > NO coincidence that my son's name is SEAN), I DO wash the bugs off my > > > oleander! > > > > > > I usually leave them on the food we cook out in the boonies on the BBQ > > > though, depending upon how much blue agave we used for " seasoning " . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , <cr8iveart@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I was only suggesting washing the leaves at first when she got it > > > from the nursery to remove any > > > > pesticide residue or overspray, since I have never seen a nursery > > > seperate the plants out very > > > > carefully as to which ones got sprayed and which ones didn't. > > > > > > > > Since you said that about two layers forming, I remembered a post by > > > Tony saying that there shouldnt > > > > be a lot of sediment in the bottle. So, how does one know what is > > > too much or what is the natural part > > > > of the combining process? What color was your final mixture? Mine > > > did not end up being what I would > > > > call clear or even a " light " tea color. After two weeks of bowel > > > problems, I decided that I hadnot > > > > strained it enough. Can you clarify any of this Dr. Goebbel? Thanks, > > > Janna > > > > > > > > > > Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> > > > > > 2007/07/05 Thu PM 12:47:33 EDT > > > > > oleander soup > > > > > Re: Re: She is special! > > > > > > > > > > Oleanders grow all over the south. Get yourself some and then > > > grow them organically. After your > > > > organic plants are growing, when you harvest them, you might want to > > > leave some of the spiders, > > > > mites, etc on them and not wash the plants. Just break or cut them > > > up and put directly into the pot. > > > > > > > > > > Remember the rainforest movie w/ Sean Connery? The ants were > > > more medicinal than the > > > > flowers! > > > > > > > > > > After cooking and straining, you will remove any particulate > > > matter anyway. > > > > > > > > > > After you add the vodka or gin, there are always 2 layers that > > > form. Just put the mix in home > > > > canning jars, and store in your refrigerator. Shake vigorously a > > > few seconds before you take a dose. > > > > I always wipe clean the mouth of the jar and the canning lid before > > > replacing the lid on the jar. > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > > > web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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