The Cranky Free Diet (for everyone, but Frespecially for Muriel)

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Thanks Tony, I'll have a good read at that one :-)

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> Muriel -

>

> I am sure that Michael will have some good advice for you.

>

> In the meanwhile, it occurs to me that this diet might help a bit:

>

> The Three Day Cranky-Free Diet

>

> by Joy Bauer, M.S., R.D., C.D.N.

>

> /diets.htm

>

> It is called the Cranky-Free Diet, but it is mainly a mood

enhancing diet.

>

> Live long, live healthy, live happy!

>

> >

> " The doctor of the future will give no medicine but will interest

his

> patients in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause

and

> prevention of disease. "

> - Thomas Edison

>

> oleander soup , " murielblackley2 "

> <murielblackley2@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Michael, sorry for late reply.

> >

> > I never thought to classify my symptoms, but according to your

> > standards, yes, mine were severe - definitely. I'd just assumed

I

> > was normalish, wrong again, lol.

> >

> > What did I do - various vits and minerals - vit c, e, b, calmag,

> > ginkgo, kelp, echinacea - maybe helped some, but not greatly.

Think

> > that was it. What really helped was Black Cohosh - dramatically

> > reduced the flushes etc.

> >

> > I also remembered reading and using a book called The Mood Cure

by

> > Julia Ross where she advises eating protein at every meal along

with

> > various supplements - when I followed her advice a few years ago

I

> > felt great but had gradually slipped. So, I started eating

protein

> > at every meal despite not really wanting to eat meat. That

appears

> > to have helped my mood at least some.

> >

> > Flower Essences did most to help my mood and finally lifted me

out of

> > the black hole I was in.

> >

> > I've now added in Blackstrap molasses and malt - just a couple of

> > teaspoons of each a day.

> >

> > Also 5HTP - since I started that I am finally sleeping more than

a

> > couple of hours at a time and for a total of maybe 5 or 6 hours

if I

> > was lucky. Initially I was probably too sleepy on it, but am now

> > taking half a tablet which seems to suit me much better - I'm

> > sleeping oh about 8 - 10 hours altogether a night, but alert and

> > awake through the day.

> >

> > Apart from the Flower Essences and Black Cohosh, it's difficult

to

> > say exactly how much each thing has helped as I think everything

has

> > played a part. I'm still working on it, but at least I'm not

soaked

> > several times a day or in the depths of depression.

> >

> > I also walk for about 4 hours a day with my dog in nature -

woods,

> > fields, but I've been doing that for 20 years, so nothing new.

> >

> > I've got a copy of Linda Kearns' book again and intend to make

her

> > menopause cake and see how much good it does me, it's supposed to

be

> > really good at helping.

> >

> > So, any more advice? Would be good to know what you usually

advise

> > dietary, supplement etc wise. You're obviously not an allopathic

> > doctor, or not like the ones around here anyway :-) They'd just

have

> > dished out HRT or something.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > oleander soup , " Michael Uzick, N.M.D. "

> > <druzick@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi murielblackley2,

> > >

> > > I'm glad you found relief, that would never upset me. Many

women

> > find

> > > relief on their own using natural remedies. I have very

> > successfully

> > > treated many women without bio-identical hormones. Some women

have

> > > mild or no symptoms at all. Also after about 7 years menopausal

> > > symptoms subside for most women.

> > >

> > > However, in my experience women with severe symptoms don't get

> > > significant relief from vitamin, herbal, or homeopathic

remedies -

> > > include diet and exercise changes here.

> > >

> > > By severe this typically means - 10 to 50 hot flashes during

the

> > day.

> > > Multiple night sweats which disturb their sleep. Severe

insomnia.

> > > Significant emotional lability (the most debilitating). No

energy -

> > > women commonly rate energy level at 2 or 3 out of 10. No sex

drive.

> > > Vaginal dryness which leads to painful intercourse and often

> > urinary

> > > frequency and urinary stress incontinence - pee slips out when

> > > coughing or sneezing.

> > >

> > > Today I saw a women who when she first came to see me was at

her

> > wits

> > > end. She broke down crying and said she couldn't go on like

this

> > much

> > > longer. Her marriage was becoming strained and she felt

absolutely

> > > hopeless. She had tried multiple remedies from the health food

> > store

> > > and none of it helped. I can assure you this woman had more

than a

> > > " modicum of common sense. " Though, she does not possess the

> > tendency

> > > to foolishly judge others as some do.

> > >

> > > I prescribed her natural hormones along with essential dietary

and

> > > supplemental recommendations to protect against hormone

dependent

> > > cancers and heart disease. On her 3 week follow-up visit almost

all

> > > of her symptoms were largely relieved ~90% better. Insomnia and

low

> > > sex drive remained. I altered her prescription and saw her

today 3

> > > months later. All of her symptoms completely gone. She said " I

am

> > my

> > > old self again. " She brought her friend with her to meet me and

> > > schedule a visit for the same issues.

> > >

> > > So, would you say your menopausal symptoms were severe? If they

> > were

> > > as severe as I've described above and you found relief

> > with " natural "

> > > remedies, I'd love to know what you did.

> > >

> > > ~M

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >Well, sorry to upset you, but I for one have not gone near a

doctor

> > > >to treat my menopausal symptoms, I have done a lot of research

and

> > > >followed my gut on what remedies are best suited to ME and

guess

> > > >what - yes, I've found great relief, all on my very own!!!!!

There

> > > >are many other women out there just like me who don't go to

doctors

> > > >as we are not impressed with the drugs they expect us to

swallow.

> > > >

> > > >Anyone with a modicum of common sense and the time and

inclination

> > to

> > > >learn can learn to help themselves safely to some degree at

least

> > > >with natural remedies, that's the whole point of the

pharmaceutical

> > > >company backlash. I stopped making money for them years ago

when I

> > > >realised they were killing my dog. Manged to kep her alive

three

> > > >years longer than my vet said she would live. Later I realised

they

> > > >were killing me too and weaned myself off the drugs my doctor

had

> > had

> > > >me on for years. Haven't quite got all the 'side effects'

sorted

> > > >yet, but getting there.....

> > > >

> > > >I'm delighted to find sites such as this where people can

share

> > their

> > > >knowledge, and people like Tony are happy to pass on their

> > experience

> > > >which is greater than mine.

> > > >

> > > >--- In

> > > ><oleander soup%

> > 40>oleander soup ,

> > > > " Tony " @> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > You again make some very good and eloquent points. I don't

> > intend to

> > > > > enter into a prolonged debate but I will respond to some of

your

> > > > > points with my points of view:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Knowledgeable people and doctors of medicine are two

different

> > > > > > things. I take it that you consider yourself someone

> > > >knowledgeable in

> > > > > > the area of health, in particular with regard to " natural "

> > > >therapies

> > > > > > and health. I assume that you might be interested in

sharing

> > your

> > > > > > knowledge with people afflicted with various health

> > conditions.

> > > > > > Perhaps this is a passion of yours. While it might be more

> > > >effective

> > > > > > for you to realize your passion by obtaining a phoney

diploma,

> > > >that

> > > > > > would be a very questionable ethical and legal act.

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree, although I can see how some might wish to do so

purely

> > out

> > > >of

> > > > > the desire to give more credence to what they have to say.

Yes,

> > I

> > > >am

> > > > > " somewhat knowledgeable " in regards to natural therapies

and

> > health,

> > > > > having likely spent more hours researching and studying them

> > > >privately

> > > > > that many who have accredited degrees. In medicine, a formal

> > > >education

> > > > > normally handicaps one's knowledge of natural health.

> > > > >

> > > > > Having said that, I harken back to the term " somewhat

> > knowledgeable "

> > > > > as being very apropos for my overall knowledge of natural

> > health,

> > > > > except possibly for oleander - and even there, I am still

> > learning.

> > > > >

> > > > > > I'm not speaking of rumors or conspiracy theories. The

> > > >organizations

> > > > > > representing diploma mill " naturopaths " , " doctors of

> > nutrition " ,

> > > > > > PhD's etc. in fact lobby against the licensing of formally

> > > >trained

> > > > > > Naturopathic doctors.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please provide me with evidence of this! I just cannot see

the

> > > > > combined forces of every diploma mill in the known universe

even

> > > > > approaching the power and lobbying influence of a single

major

> > > > > pharmaceutical company, let alone the entire trillion

dollar

> > plus

> > > >goliath!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They actually employ the services of the top lobbyists in

the

> > > >country

> > > > > > and have been very successful. If it wasn't for these

efforts

> > > >alone,

> > > > > > competently trained doctors of Naturopathy would be

licensed

> > in

> > > >the

> > > > > > majority of states in the USA rather than the minority.

I'm

> > not

> > > > > > saying big pharma and the AMA are the friends of

Naturopaths

> > and

> > > > > > alternative medicine. But when it comes down to the

effort put

> > > >forth

> > > > > > to lobby, protest and ship bus loads of people to state

> > > >assemblies to

> > > > > > fight against licensing, it is the fake ND's that have

almost

> > > > > > exclusively done so.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is a fascinating assertion. I have heard nothing of

such a

> > > > > thing. I would think that such an ability to hire top

lobbyists

> > in

> > > > > the country and send busloads of people would be vigorously

> > employed

> > > > > against such things as the North American Trilateral

agreement,

> > > > > S-1082, the FDA guidelines issue, etc., but I have seen nor

> > heard

> > > > > nothing of the sort. If I am wrong, then I want to know

about it

> > > >so I

> > > > > can admit my ignorance and go forward better informed - as

soon

> > as I

> > > > > digest my plate of crow!

> > > > >

> > > > > > There are no naturopathic members of the AMA. If you're

> > referring

> > > >to

> > > > > > complementary MD's, certainly things have not been easy

for

> > them.

> > > > > > Many many more MD's have been imprisoned, had their

licenses

> > > >revoked

> > > > > > and have been vilified than Naturopaths. We are too small

for

> > > >them to

> > > > > > notice. Also times have changed dramatically since the

70s,

> > when

> > > >even

> > > > > > the idea of eating whole grain bread was ridiculed by the

> > medical

> > > > > > establishment.

> > > > >

> > > > > About the only thing I see that has changed since the 70's

is

> > where

> > > > > the AMA has given in when the overwhelming weight of

evidence,

> > such

> > > >as

> > > > > taking daily multivitamins, has made them look ridiculous to

> > > >continue

> > > > > their opposition, or else where industry and mainstream

medicine

> > > >have

> > > > > gained a foothold in an area that was previously a threat

to

> > their

> > > > > profits.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sometimes drug treatments

> > > > > > are safer and more effective than natural treatments.

> > > > > > I've treated a lot of post menopausal women. Many woman go

> > > >through

> > > > > > the change with few symptoms. However, women that have

severe

> > > > > > symptoms get little relief from natural treatments. I can

> > assure

> > > >you

> > > > > > I've tried unsuccessfully many times. You might not

appreciate

> > > >what

> > > > > > this is like for a women, without experiencing it first

hand

> > or

> > > > > > having a partner or close friend that has gone through

it.

> > They

> > > > > suffer greatly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > This is an area where I have to fall back on my " somewhat

> > > > > knowledgeable " description and bow to your superior

knowledge

> > and

> > > > > experience. It appears that " natural " bioidentical hormones

are

> > > > > outside mainstream medicine outside mainstream medicine and

> > > >considered

> > > > > by some to be more in the natural arena than the FDA

approved

> > drugs

> > > > > are. Maybe that is why natural bioidentical hormones are

under

> > > >attach

> > > > > by mainstream medicine just like natural supplements are.

> > > > >

> > > > > > There is an historic precedence for the title of

Naturopathic

> > > > > doctor. > These were trained physicians like Benedict Lust.

> > There

> > > >were

> > > > > dozens Naturopathic medical schools in this country that

trained

> > > >real

> > > > > > doctors.

> > > > >

> > > > > That was before politics and corruption forced the monopoly

of

> > > > > mainstream medicine on us - shutting down rival schools of

> > > >naturopathy

> > > > > and homeopathy and tying us into the clutches of those who

> > doctored

> > > >by

> > > > > medicine instead of by healing.

> > > > >

> > > > > I lectured on the benefits of injectable

> > > > > > vitamin B12 in the treatment of people with HIV/AIDS.

There's

> > so

> > > >much

> > > > > > published research and clinical experience to share for

this

> > one

> > > > > > treatment which make such a huge difference. These

doctors

> > knew

> > > > > > nothing about it. They were taught in medical school that

> > vitamin

> > > >B12

> > > > > > injections were quackery for anything but cases of

pernicious

> > > >anemia.

> > > > > > They couldn't believe the research I showed them, the

cases I

> > > > > > reported. They were excited out of their minds. This

stuff is

> > old

> > > >hat

> > > > > > to Naturopaths. You lean it in school and use it in

clinic.

> > It's

> > > > > basic stuff.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good stuff. Too bad someone is not teaching them about the

use

> > of

> > > > > oleander to treat HIV. The OPC product has treated over 350

> > > >patients

> > > > > during the past 3 years and ALL are alive and well, with HIV

> > > >symptoms

> > > > > either reversed or stabilized.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the instance of oleander use in treating cancer and other

> > > > > conditions such as hep-c, as it happens there are doctors

in

> > Mexico

> > > > > who come to Texas to be trained by a lay person not far

from me

> > in

> > > >the

> > > > > uses and preparation of oleander extract. This person has no

> > > > > credentials, not even a paper diploma. Just a decades long

> > record of

> > > > > saving lives and relieving suffering.

> > > > >

> > > > > And therein lies part of the rub. Natural healing has it's

> > share of

> > > > > quacks, but it also has a pretty impressive honor role of

> > > > > " unqualified " people who have made real contributions to

> > healing and

> > > > > have saved many, many lives. Where do people like that fit

into

> > the

> > > > > paradigm of licensing?

> > > > >

> > > > > > It's happening in 14 states, the District of Colombia,

Puerto

> > > >Rico

> > > > > > and the Virgin Islands. If it weren't for the fake ND's

we

> > would

> > > >be

> > > > > > licensed in all the states. I'm happy to blame the AMA

and FDA

> > > >when

> > > > > > they are responsible. This is coming from very greedy

selfish

> > > >people

> > > > > > who happen to strongly believe in alternative medicine,

but

> > would

> > > > > > like to fancy themselves doctors without achieving this

> > > >distinction.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess we will have to agree to disagree if you say that

it is

> > > >solely

> > > > > a powerful organization of fake ND's that prevents the

double-

> > edged

> > > > > sword of licensing in all 50 states, at least until I am

shown

> > some

> > > > > compelling evidence to the contrary. And I am not saying I

could

> > > >not

> > > > > be wrong - just that I would be shocked to be that ignorant

of

> > such

> > > >an

> > > > > organized and powerful effort.

> > > > >

> > > > > It appears to me that some individuals and institutions in

the

> > filed

> > > > > of naturopathy want to distance themselves from others with

the

> > > >issue

> > > > > of accreditation of Naturopathic Doctors and the elevation

of

> > ND's

> > > > > among the public, academia and the law to being the

professional

> > > > > equals of their mainstream counterparts.

> > > > >

> > > > > It usually takes at least 11 years to become a doctor: 4

years

> > of

> > > > > college, 4 years of medical school, and 3 years working in a

> > > >hospital.

> > > > > Would it not follow that it should take approximately the

same

> > > >period

> > > > > of time to become a qualified Naturopathic Physician if

they

> > are to

> > > >be

> > > > > considered equals?

> > > > >

> > > > > I understand that " accredited " naturopathic colleges

require no

> > more

> > > > > than 4 years to earn their " doctors " degrees. Does that not

open

> > > >them

> > > > > up to the same criticism, at least to a degree, that some

give

> > to

> > > > > naturopaths who obtained their credentials via

correspondence

> > school

> > > > > study?

> > > > >

> > > > > In closing, I would just like to say that there are a great

> > many of

> > > >us

> > > > > who are advocates of natural healing and, at a time when we

are

> > > >under

> > > > > attack, we would best be advised to seek unity. No doubt,

we,

> > need

> > > >to

> > > > > be able to find a way to weed out the quacks and charlatans

but

> > we

> > > > > should do it without creating a caste system where those

who are

> > > > > genuinely interested in helping and healing do not have

part of

> > the

> > > > > group, such as accredited naturopathic doctors, looking

down

> > their

> > > > > noses and pointing fingers at another par, say non

accredited

> > > > > naturopaths, who in turn look down their noses at still

another

> > > >part,

> > > > > say " somewhat knowledgeable " self taught people like myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > In that scenario, all the noses are pointed down at me!

> > > > >

> > > > > :-)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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