Filtration time

[Guest guest]

I found the 1/10 concentration directions in the book and I think I

just have to adjust the dose accordingly.

My others questions :

- Is a long time of filtering a problem (oxidation)?

- Is filtering after adding the vodka a problem ?

 

Thanks

 

Jan

[Guest guest]

I do not think that lengthy filtration times should pose a problem.

When you use finer filters, like a few layers of coffee filters or the

filters you can obtain from medical supply outlets, it will take a bit

longer. Of course it helps to filter first through more porous

filters and then do the finer filtration.

 

Filtering after the vodka is probably OK, but not something I would

recommend, and here is why (bear with me here!):

 

In general, two different kinds of extraction methods have been for

medicinal oleander products. One method is the aqueous extraction

method, such as used for Anvirzel and oleander soup. The other is

extraction via ethanol, and it has been used for medications for heart

conditions and vertigo. Since the main cardiac glycosides in oleander

cross assay with digoxin/digitalis, the ethanol extraction method is

probably just fine for heart conditions and possibly vertigo, and

since, those same glcosides are non-polar (not water soluable), the

ethanol extraction method actually extracts a bit more of them than

does the aqueous method. When it comes to extraction for use against

cancer, hepatitis-C, HIV-AIDS, psoriasis and other disorders, the

aqueous extraction method is far superior.

 

As most of you know, nature works synergistically. Although science

may be able to identify one primary compound in a beneficial

botanical, when our labs isolate or synthesize the compound (so it can

be patented and profitable), it very often is not nearly as effective

as the original botanical it was derived from - and that is because

every beneficial botanical has a wealth of compounds and it is likely

that a combination of many of them contribute to the overall efficacy

of the plant. In the case of oleander, over 500 compounds have been

identified so far. Only a handful of those are cardiac glycosides, of

which oleandrin is by far the most effective when isolated and

oleandrinogen the next - but none of them are nearly so effective when

completely isolated.

 

Among the other compounds in oleander are long chain polysacharrides.

Long chain polysacharrides are proven cancer and disease fighters and

immune boosters. These compounds are also polar (water soluable)

compounds, and the aqueous extraction method retains these compounds.

When the ethanol method of extraction is used, these vital compounds

precipitate out and are lost during the extraction and filtration

process. The scientists most familiar with oleander feel that the

long chain polysacharrides and other compounds likely play a vital

role in the efficacy of nerium oleander extract.

 

This hypothesis seemed to be borne out when a bogus company attempted

to become a competitor, at least on paper, to the makers of Anvirzel

last year when they imported and relabled a Russian oleander medicine

extracted via the ethanol method. I personally know of one person, a

close internet friend, who was convinced to switch to the bogus

product, after which his tumors returned and he ultimately died. The

aqueous oleander extract, in the form of Anvirzel, was the only thing

that ever worked for him - and he tried about everything imaginable,

from natural protocols to experimental therapies.

 

And so finally, on to the point I want to make: when vodka is used to

preserve the oleander soup, it is common for a precipitate to form. I

have often wondered if that precipitate might not contain some of the

same compounds that are lost in the ethanol extraction method.

 

While I do not know for sure that such a thing is happening, I now am

of the opinion that perhaps it might be best to live with the

precipitate and shake up the bottle/container before each dose.

 

Make sense?

 

Sorry for the lengthy post, but I think it was important to explain

what I wanted to impart in detail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

oleander soup , " jandebezo " <jcastro wrote:

>

> I found the 1/10 concentration directions in the book and I think I

> just have to adjust the dose accordingly.

> My others questions :

> - Is a long time of filtering a problem (oxidation)?

> - Is filtering after adding the vodka a problem ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Jan

>