Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 There is a product at the grocers markets, especially ones like Whole Foods, that is concentrated grape juice WITH grape seed extract, and I think that it makes a pretty decent flavoring for OS. You can use some of it to flavor the OS and have some made on the side for a healthy chaser. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 whole foods is trying to close down all mom and pop little herb stores. how do i know? I was a sales rep for a product. sales reps talk. So keep SMALLER herb shops in business. GNC- general nutritional crap. FDA- Faulty drug advise. OrusTony wrote: There is a product at the grocers markets, especially ones like WholeFoods, that is concentrated grape juice WITH grape seed extract, and Ithink that it makes a pretty decent flavoring for OS. You can usesome of it to flavor the OS and have some made on the side for ahealthy chaser.Tony In my heart, I think a woman has two choices: either she's a feminist or a masochist." —Gloria Steinem Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Back to improving the taste: Try lemon oil or lemon flavoring. I liked this much better than the maple syrup or pancake syrup. Dr. Goebel ______________________________\ ____ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Healthier too (than syrup) - no sugar. Good suggestion. oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > Back to improving the taste: > Try lemon oil or lemon flavoring. I liked this much better than the > maple syrup or pancake syrup. > > Dr. Goebel > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 In a message dated 5/7/2007 1:07:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, goebelchx writes: Back to improving the taste:Try lemon oil or lemon flavoring. I liked this much better than themaple syrup or pancake syrup.Dr. Goebel Why not Pomegranate Juice? It's an antioxidant and has anti cancer properties.See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 You bet - pomegranate is my favorite juice. Now, the dosage of OS you take is so small that you would be getting a fairly small amount if you only diluted it to the point that you could still take it sublingually (held under the tongue) before swallowing, but that is no reason not to use a good flavoring item like pomegranate or grape juice/grapeseed extract. Especially if you take more of the anti-oxidant juice as a chaser. Grapejuice/grapeseed extract might be a good choice for those who started off with detox/cleansing, a 12 hour fast, and then the Brandt Grape cure for up to a week or so and then brought in the oleander. oleander soup , ahzoov wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/7/2007 1:07:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > goebelchx writes: > > Back to improving the taste: > Try lemon oil or lemon flavoring. I liked this much better than the > maple syrup or pancake syrup. > > Dr. Goebel > > > Why not Pomegranate Juice? It's an antioxidant and has anti cancer > properties. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 --- ahzoov wrote: > > > > Why not Pomegranate Juice? It's an antioxidant and has anti cancer > properties. Good idea, as is any mangosteen juice drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 A main reason I like the concentrates is more flavoring power. How is your 5 gallon supply holding up, btw? That is a LOT of OS! And how about your 70 year old friend that was using the OS skin creme? I know a number of people who have used the creme successfully. I need to do the creme now self for a few pesky spots. Too much fun in the sun for too many years, no doubt. Surely age can't have anything to do with it. : ) I must confess that the only time I tried to make the skin creme, I made a mess of it. First of all, I had already flavored all of the OS I had with orange flavoring and so that was the mix I tried to condense further down. Then I was distracted at a critical time and ended up with a burnt brown goo. It looked almost as bad as it smelled. And I think I cooked the life out of it. Time to try again, as I am out of soup. Problem is, circumstances are such that it may be a few weeks before I can make some more. Since I will be moving not too far from San Antonio, out in the hill country west of Utopia, the plants should not be too hard to find. oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > > --- ahzoov wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why not Pomegranate Juice? It's an antioxidant and has anti cancer > > properties. > > > > Good idea, as is any mangosteen juice drink. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 To make Oleander Soup, do you have to go out and find your own plant? Also, the cream you are talking about. What exactly is it good for, besides cancer? Will using it protect you from future cancer? and would it be good to use that way? oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > A main reason I like the concentrates is more flavoring power. > > How is your 5 gallon supply holding up, btw? That is a LOT of OS! > And how about your 70 year old friend that was using the OS skin > creme? I know a number of people who have used the creme successfully. > > I need to do the creme now self for a few pesky spots. Too much fun > in the sun for too many years, no doubt. Surely age can't have > anything to do with it. : ) > > I must confess that the only time I tried to make the skin creme, I > made a mess of it. First of all, I had already flavored all of the OS > I had with orange flavoring and so that was the mix I tried to > condense further down. Then I was distracted at a critical time and > ended up with a burnt brown goo. It looked almost as bad as it > smelled. And I think I cooked the life out of it. > > Time to try again, as I am out of soup. Problem is, circumstances are > such that it may be a few weeks before I can make some more. Since I > will be moving not too far from San Antonio, out in the hill country > west of Utopia, the plants should not be too hard to find. > > > > > > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote: > > > > > > --- ahzoov@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not Pomegranate Juice? It's an antioxidant and has anti cancer > > > properties. > > > > > > > > Good idea, as is any mangosteen juice drink. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Acquire some MSM skin lotion. When you make your oleander soup, after the final filtrations, decide on a portion you will use to make the skin creme. You must slow boil with constant stiring to avoid singing the soup as the liquid boils away. I made a 10 to 1 concentrate, then blended into the MSM lotion. This is a general idea for a lotion. Use it as a starting point; choose your own lotion base and ingredients. Try not to use those that easily spoil. And you may very well choose to keep yours refrigerated, as I do. Dr. Goebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 -- Since I > will be moving not too far from San Antonio, out in the hill country > west of Utopia, the plants should not be too hard to find. > > How lucky you are to be moving close to Utopia.........It is so beautiful out there. You should find some plants there that have not been sprayed. When you said the other day you were moving to the hill country, I was thinking how nice it would be for you to be moving to Wimberley. That is where I live. My son owns the Hill Country Natural Foods and we always sell nothing but organic produce. We truly understand about the Walmart thing and the Wholefoods thing as we are a small store in a small town. We have been in business here for 21 years now. Hoping we never get a Walmart here.......It will truly put out a lot of businesses. That is just what they do when they move in. So many small towns and not so many small towns in Texas have been closed due to them. Sad....... I have never posted before but read everything you all have to say. It is a very interesting BB. Happy days with good health. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Oleander and MSM together in a skin lotion/creme makes sense. I have often wondered what a combination of oleander with the very effective black salve products for skin cancers might do. oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > Acquire some MSM skin lotion. When you make your oleander soup, after > the final filtrations, decide on a portion you will use to make the > skin creme. You must slow boil with constant stiring to avoid singing > the soup as the liquid boils away. I made a 10 to 1 concentrate, then > blended into the MSM lotion. > > This is a general idea for a lotion. Use it as a starting point; > choose your own lotion base and ingredients. Try not to use those that > easily spoil. And you may very well choose to keep yours refrigerated, > as I do. > > Dr. Goebel > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I have used the oleander syrup with black salve very successfully on melanomas. Just apply it and cover with elastoplast for 2 to 3 days. Thereafter apply ozonated olive oil for a few weeks. The combination works wonders. Marc - Tony oleander soup Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:50 PM Re: Improving the taste of oleander soup Oleander and MSM together in a skin lotion/creme makes sense. I haveoften wondered what a combination of oleander with the very effectiveblack salve products for skin cancers might do.Tonyoleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote:>> Acquire some MSM skin lotion. When you make your oleander soup, after> the final filtrations, decide on a portion you will use to make the> skin creme. You must slow boil with constant stiring to avoid singing> the soup as the liquid boils away. I made a 10 to 1 concentrate, then> blended into the MSM lotion. > > This is a general idea for a lotion. Use it as a starting point;> choose your own lotion base and ingredients. Try not to use those that> easily spoil. And you may very well choose to keep yours refrigerated,> as I do.> > Dr. Goebel> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Thank you for confirming a very logical idea many of us have had! Dr. Goebel ______________________________\ ____ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Thanks for the info! I figured that the two would be a potent combo. The photos I have seen of the black salve results on skin cancers leave some pretty ugly spots. I wonder is the same would be true of skin things that were not cancers, such as age spots, moles, rough patches, warts, etc. Oleander usually leaves smooth healthy skin - at least on non cancerous spots. oleander soup , " Marc Swanepoel " <marcswan wrote: > > I have used the oleander syrup with black salve very successfully on melanomas. Just apply it and cover with elastoplast for 2 to 3 days. Thereafter apply ozonated olive oil for a few weeks. The combination works wonders. > > Marc > > - > > oleander soup > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:50 PM > Re: Improving the taste of oleander soup > > > Oleander and MSM together in a skin lotion/creme makes sense. I have > often wondered what a combination of oleander with the very effective > black salve products for skin cancers might do. > > > > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote: > > > > Acquire some MSM skin lotion. When you make your oleander soup, after > > the final filtrations, decide on a portion you will use to make the > > skin creme. You must slow boil with constant stiring to avoid singing > > the soup as the liquid boils away. I made a 10 to 1 concentrate, then > > blended into the MSM lotion. > > > > This is a general idea for a lotion. Use it as a starting point; > > choose your own lotion base and ingredients. Try not to use those that > > easily spoil. And you may very well choose to keep yours refrigerated, > > as I do. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 The initial ugly spots (and, sometimes, holes) get much better over time and with continuous use of the ozonated olive oil. Marc - Tony oleander soup Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:39 PM Re: Improving the taste of oleander soup Thanks for the info! I figured that the two would be a potent combo.The photos I have seen of the black salve results on skin cancersleave some pretty ugly spots. I wonder is the same would be true ofskin things that were not cancers, such as age spots, moles, roughpatches, warts, etc. Oleander usually leaves smooth healthy skin - atleast on non cancerous spots.Tonyoleander soup , "Marc Swanepoel" <marcswanwrote:>> I have used the oleander syrup with black salve very successfully onmelanomas. Just apply it and cover with elastoplast for 2 to 3 days.Thereafter apply ozonated olive oil for a few weeks. The combinationworks wonders.> > Marc> > - > Tony > oleander soup > Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:50 PM> Re: Improving the taste of oleander soup> > > Oleander and MSM together in a skin lotion/creme makes sense. I have> often wondered what a combination of oleander with the very effective> black salve products for skin cancers might do.> > Tony> > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@>wrote:> >> > Acquire some MSM skin lotion. When you make your oleander soup,after> > the final filtrations, decide on a portion you will use to make the> > skin creme. You must slow boil with constant stiring to avoidsinging> > the soup as the liquid boils away. I made a 10 to 1 concentrate,then> > blended into the MSM lotion. > > > > This is a general idea for a lotion. Use it as a starting point;> > choose your own lotion base and ingredients. Try not to usethose that> > easily spoil. And you may very well choose to keep yoursrefrigerated,> > as I do.> > > > Dr. Goebel> > > > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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