Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Tony, I have been reading your e-book and have a couple of questions. I do not have any diseases, would I still get diarrhea when taking at first? Are the side affects common even when just working your way up to the maintenance dose? What is the cause of the side affects, is it just a " crisis " like one commonly associated with detoxification? Finally, what affect does the soup have on gastrointestinal flora? Thanks for the response in advance, Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 William, I think that the relatively mild (at least compared to virtually all chemo and radiation) side effects vary from one individual to the next. Although some will debate me, I am a firm believe that the better you strain the oleander, the lesser the chances of side effects. The makers of Anvirzel, after which oleander soup is closely modeled, report that their patients who take Anvirzel orally experience virtually no side effects and the people who have followed my recommendations to use a final filtering through multiple coffee filters report the same thing. I did so and personally have not ever experienced any side effects. Like you, as far as I know I am disease free too. I was once told that the reasons oleander soup might cause initial nausea and diarrhea is because of some organic particles that can cause initial side effects until the body becomes adjusted are not removed in the preparation of the home remedy, whereas the original Ozel patent for Anvirzel called for filtration of 4 microns or less and the present maufacturer, Phoenix Biotech uses much smaller filtration levels than even 4 microns. I have no idea what the effect, if any, is on gastrointestinal flora, but I would imagine that there is little if any negative effect. Users typically report healthier appetites and overall well being. As you note, when the body is becoming detoxed, as well as when cancer and other abnormal cells are being destroyed (or dying due to normal cell apoptosis being re-introduced), there often is an initial " crisis " period of feeling worse before you begin to feel better. In large part, this can be a result of toxins from the dying cancer cells, as well as those from de-tox procedures, being released into the bloodstream in larger than normal quantity and overtaxing the liver. For that reason, any anti-cancer protocol should include regular liver cleanses as well as anti-oxidants that protect the liver - namely milk thistle (silymarin), alpha lipoic acid and selenium. Fortunately for us, the liver alone among major organs is able to regenerate itself. Unfortunately for cancer sufferers, it has been demonstrated that an impaired liver is one of the pre-requisites for developing cancer - and those who have undergone chemo and possibly radiation have further damaged and impaired their livers - so a natural protocol that releases toxins is sending those toxins to an already impaired liver - all the more reason to protect and cleanse the liver. oleander soup , " William " <greenwaves11 wrote: > > Tony, > > I have been reading your e-book and have a couple of questions. I do > not have any diseases, would I still get diarrhea when taking at > first? Are the side affects common even when just working your way up > to the maintenance dose? What is the cause of the side affects, is it > just a " crisis " like one commonly associated with detoxification? > Finally, what affect does the soup have on gastrointestinal flora? > > Thanks for the response in advance, > > Will > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Diana - More than likely and almost assuredly, yes it will be. In fact, Diana, I might just make the new book available for free to all of our present group members. Shhhhhh! : ) oleander soup , " diana gia " <babygirl.di wrote: > > Tony, > > Will this info be put in the files section? > > thanks, Diana > > -- > http://www.succulents4u.com > > avid succulent grower > kitchen witch > good friend > > On 4/25/07, Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > > > I too have never suffered any side-effects. I've always filtered the > > last time through 4 to 6 collander size strainers lined with coffee filters > > and lint-free white paper towels. > > > > Ideally, one would use a Buchner funnel with medium-fine grade ash-free > > filter paper. Wetting the filter paper with vodka and drawing slight vacuum > > serves to seat the filter paper so that no material can bypass the filter. > > Those who understand what I am saying and have the equipment should use it. > > > > Otherwise please understand, if you do as Tony says (using multiple > > strainers lined with coffee filters), you will obtain an excellent product. > > I do suggest wetting the filters on the strainers with distilled water or > > vodka begin you pouring the liquid through. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check out new cars at Autos.<http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http://autos./new_cars.html;_y\ lc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-> > > > > _ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Dr. Goebel, What do you use to pull suction for the Buchner funnel? Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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