Fwd: There is a Health Crisis!

April 24, 2007

Ok guy,

I got this email tonight from Standard Process Labs. It contains the

link to Rima E. Laibow, MD. You can send an email to the FDA about

their proposed regulation of complementary and alternative medicine.

You can also see all nutritional bills and regulations currently under

consideration and send your emails to the appropriate agency of

congressman conveniently the email composer at the site.

God bless all,

Dr. Goebel

Note: forwarded message attached.

There is a crisis in Health Freedom. On April 30, 2007 the FDA will close the public comment period on a "Guidance" which will classify every alternative practice as medicine so that only licensed physicians can carry out the procedure. AND Vitamins, Minerals, Herbs, etc., will suddenly become "untested drugs" which will be forbidden.

Bad? Real Bad! But public outcry can stop this assault on your health and your freedom.

Spread the word! Tell everyone in your Circle of Influence, professionals, alternative practitioners, nutrient and herb companies, everyone! Let them know how important their participation is to make sure the FDA backs off from this repressive course.

Please share this link with them and urge them to take action: http://tinyurl.com/2u7ghc

Yours In Health and Freedom,

Rima E. Laibow, MDMedical DirectorNatural Solutions Foundationwww.HealthFreedomUSA.org_____________________________

Thank You All!

Warm regards,Patrice TurowskiPatrice TurowskiStandard Process of Central Texas, Inc.Office of Glenn Kikel, ACNOffice Manager/Seminar RegistrarEmail: spcentex2(800) 998-6687See what's free at AOL.com.

April 24, 2007

Once again, yes, the message is important - but I have problems with the messengers. No not our valued member who posted it - I value him highly, and not Standard Products, but the folks who sent the information to Standard Products: namely, Rima Laibow, her husband General Stubblebine, Natural Solutions Foundation, and HealthFreedomUSA.orgThese relative newcomers and self-appointed natural health authorities have mounted quite the campaign, just as they did in 2005, and it just strikes me as self serving and possibly counter-productive, just it was in 2005 when they used questionable measures and facts and psychological warfare.The issue is serious, and I urge everyone to take action, but there are far more reasoned voices, such as Jon Barron, advocating that we take action and telling us where to take it as individuals, instead as part of some group that may be counter productive with their methodology and who they are alienating.To see why I DO NOT support sending such messages through NSF/HFUSA, here are but as few other opinions:From the respected Dr. Rath Foundation:A Modern Major General Exposed?

The

fictional Major-General who appears in Gilbert and Sullivan's 1879

comic opera "The Pirates of Penzance"

famously sings boastfully about his extremely wide general knowledge.

Hardly the most modest of people, he comically claims to know about

or to understand all manner of disparate subjects, and repeatedly

tells the audience that he is "the very model of a modern

Major-General."

Not

entirely dissimilarly therefore, the health freedom movement has

recently been subjected to the increasingly bizarre claims of a

real-life Major-General, a man who, rather like his counterpart in

The Pirates of Penzance, claims to be an expert in all manner

of things.

Major General Albert (Bert) N. Stubblebine III (U.S. Army, Retired)

Major

General Albert (Bert) N. Stubblebine III (U.S. Army, Retired)

graduated from The United States Military Academy (West Point) in

1952, and served in the US Army for 32 years. Starting his career as

an Armor officer, he subsequently rose through the ranks to lead

troops at every echelon of Army command, and held several senior

posts in US Army Intelligence. His commands as a General Officer

included the US Army Intelligence Center and School, the Army's

Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM) and the US Army

Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM). Whilst on active duty

Stubblebine also redesigned the intelligence architecture of the

United States Army, and restructured the Army Intelligence training

curriculum. After his retirement from the Army in 1984 he served

until 1990 as the Vice President for Intelligence Systems at BDM

Corporation, a private defense sector contractor, and then acted as a

part-time consultant to two government contractors; ERIM, and Space

Applications Corporation (SAC). More recently, and along with his

wife, the psychiatrist Rima Laibow, Stubblebine

sits on the Board of Canadian Submarine Technologies Inc,

and claims to be the designer of AEGIS, "a major Homeland

Security private initiative".

Given

this background, and his resulting proximity to the US Government,

eyebrows began to be raised in the health freedom community in early

2005 when, along with Rima Laibow, Stubblebine launched the website

of the Natural

Solutions Foundation

and began to promote himself as an expert on Codex

Alimentarius.

However,

for a man who had previously held several

senior posts in US Army Intelligence, and who as such would be

acutely aware of the need to ensure accuracy in the gathering of

information, it quickly became apparent to experienced health freedom

observers that Stubblebine either hadn't done his homework

properly, or that he and Laibow were intentionally spreading

inaccurate

and misleading material on Codex and other related dietary supplement

issues via their

website and press releases. Moreover, despite repeated concerns being

expressed by more experienced health freedom observers, Stubblebine

and Laibow continued to disseminate this material, and pointedly

ignored requests to remove it from their website.

The

inaccuracy of their written output on Codex reached a new high in

July 2005, when, following the adoption by the Codex

Alimentarius Commission

of restrictive new global

guidelines for vitamin and mineral supplements,

Stubblebine and Laibow announced that a miracle

had taken place at the Commission's meeting. While the health

freedom community looked on in astonishment, Stubblebine and Laibow

went on to claim that during the meeting a World Health Organization

(WHO) Under Secretary for Food Safety had spoken "sternly,

sharply and scathingly of the fact that little contribution to human

health had been made by Codex"

and that WHO had stated that

"things

would be different in the future".

Of course, the Dr. Rath Health Foundation later proved, definitively,

that these

assertions were largely either mistaken or exaggerated;

however this unfortunately didn't stem what was by then becoming a

growing tide of inaccuracy

flowing from Stubblebine and Laibow.

Next,

for example, following a meeting of the Codex Committee on Food

Labelling that took place in Ottawa, Canada in May 2006, Stubblebine

claimed that the meeting's outcome was a "Stunning

Victory" for health freedom,

despite the fact that such

an assertion had absolutely no basis in fact, as proven by the Dr.

Rath Health Foundation

and confirmed by other

experienced observers who were present at the meeting,

including even the

Natural Solutions Foundation's own legal council.

Perhaps

not surprisingly therefore, Stubblebine did not take kindly to being

repeatedly exposed in this way, and subsequently confronted Paul

Anthony Taylor at the July 2006 meeting of the Codex Alimentarius

Commission, in Geneva. Paul's summary of this encounter follows

below:

Immediately

after the close of the meeting Bert Stubblebine approached me and

positioned himself so that I could not easily walk away. His manner

was somewhat aggressive, and at one point I had to tell him that

there was no need to shout, as his raised voice and threatening

manner were beginning to attract the attention of other delegates. He

claimed that the subject of his anger was the Foundation's Codex

meeting in Ottawa

article, as well as the Miracle

in Rome?

and Be

Wary of the Instant Experts

articles that had recently been revised to include his and Rima

Laibow's names. He asked me whether I wrote these articles, and I

answered that the decision to name him in them was taken by the

Executive Board of the Dr. Rath Health Foundation. In turn, I asked

him whether he disagreed with any of the factual corrections that the

Dr. Rath Health Foundation had published regarding the

fictional nature of material put out by his organization,

and, if so, which ones? "All of them", he answered.

Rima Laibow, speaking at Northwest Missouri State University in November 2005

By

this point we had been joined by his wife, Rima Laibow, who,

seemingly white with anger, proceeded to ask me some of the same

questions that Bert had just asked me. I therefore told her that I

had just answered these same questions to Bert, and that as such I

saw no need to answer them again. Rima then proceeded to ask me "Who

are the Executive Board of the Dr. Rath Health Foundation?", and I

told her that the relevant names could all be found on the

Foundation's website. At this they both about-turned and stormed

off, and Rima muttered something whilst they were walking away to the

effect that they would find that information very interesting.

The Dr. Rath Health Foundation believes that the health

freedom movement now needs to ask several important questions of

Stubblebine and the Natural Solutions Foundation:

Why

are Codex

reports

issued by the Natural

Solutions Foundation

increasingly at odds with those of more

experienced observers,

including even those of its

own Legal Counsel?Why

does the Natural

Solutions Foundation

claim that miracles

and

stunning victories

for health freedom have taken place at Codex meetings when in

reality no

such miracles

or stunning

victories

have taken place?Why

does Stubblebine – a man who has held several senior posts in US

Army Intelligence and who as such will be acutely aware of the need

to ensure accuracy in the gathering of information – continue to

permit the National Solutions Foundation's articles and press

releases to contain numerous

crucial inaccuracies,

and why does he refuse to correct them?Was

it Stubblebine's intention to try to intimidate Paul Anthony

Taylor at the July 2006 meeting of the Codex Alimentarius Commission

in Geneva?Given

that Stubblebine

once admitted in a court of law that his "real expertise is

government, primarily intelligence", and, when asked whether he

had any other skills, answered "Not particularly",

what does he expect the health freedom movement to conclude

regarding his spreading of inaccurate

and misleading material on Codex and other related dietary

supplement issues?

Is

Albert Stubblebine "the very model of a modern Major-General"?

We'll leave you to make up your own minds on that one, and can only

but wonder what Gilbert and Sullivan might have made of him. One

thing is for sure however, in that the

fictional Major-General in "The Pirates of Penzance",

with his "pretty taste for paradox", would probably find a man

with a background in the Intelligence Community, but who can't seem

to get his facts right, most interesting indeed.From TaxTyranny:CODEX TROJANS TO CONFUSE

aug 11, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

by staff reports

According to a recent e-mail alert by John C. Hammell, President of the International Advocates for Health

Freedom, several anti-Codex groups may have been intentionally advising anti-Codex activists on ways to oppose

the vitamin-banning regulations that were ineffective and even counter-productive. Hammell argues that the

Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF) and Citizens for Health (CFH) had been offering unworkable advice on stopping

the anti-vitamin regulations that are taking effect in Europe and may soon bite in the United States as well.

He even argues that such organizations may have received secret funding from wealthy Codex supporters. And these

could even include members of wealthy, industrial families who are increasingly known to seek regulations

worldwide that will damp competition to certain companies and trans-national industrial enterprises while

exempting their own. Also from TaxTyranny:Why does Dr. Rima Laibow use psychological warfare techniques?

When

Dr. Rima Laibow first suddenly appeared on the anti-Codex landscape as

leader of the newly-formed Natural Solutions Foundation, I began to

wonder where she was coming from. Although she seemed to have a

straightforward, hands-on approach to internet activism, something

seemed to be amiss. Long-term

anti-Codex activist John Hammell had clearly identified the

transnational treaties such as WTO, FTAA and CAFTA as integrating Codex

language, placing jurisdiction outside of U.S. lawmakers. Yet Dr.

Laibow not only ignored this connection, but actively dissuaded her

growing community of online supporters from paying any attention to it,

especially at the time when CAFTA was being debated in Congress and

there was a real possibility of defeating it. (More on this dissuasion

below.) Then

I learned that Dr. Laibow was suing Kevin Miller, allegedly for her

having provided some funding for his brilliant and powerful video on

Codex called "We Become Silent" but, apparently against her wishes, his

including the connection to the above-mentioned treaties. Since

then she has engaged her online community in what appears to be a good

cause - writing and calling Congress to stop BioShield 2, a truly

horrific proposed law. But all discussion of Codex appears to be

directing people into a useless diversion, writing and sending letters

of "support" for an "alternative" to the Codex vitamin guidelines. We

as ordinary people have zero impact on this process, since it is being

drawn up by bureaucrats in the Codex delegations whose allegiance is

primarily to the pharmaceutical industry. So getting people involved in

this process is a wholesale waste of time. Then

I looked carefully at a message she sent to her supporters about Codex

several months ago. In it I found the use of carefully-chosen

psychologically-charged words, a technique used in psychological

warfare tracts developed at U.S. Army Intelligence by a man named

Edward G. Lansdale. This technique, called the Semantic Differential,

has been used by our intelligence services widely, as part of programs

to subvert "enemy" countries and other targets. (I first read about the

Semantic Differential in a tract in Covert Intelligence Information

Bulletin about psychological warfare used against Grenada, Chile, and

Nicaragua.)

The Semantic Differential is a technique which uses culturally

important psychologically-charged words to promote a particular point

of view or, in the case of psychological warfare, to discredit an

enemy. Here Dr. Laibow's audience is middle-class, health-conscious,

intelligent (and somewhat intellectual) Americans. Here's the example from Dr. Laibow's message:

"If you think that your understanding of Codex is being manipulated by

words (such as "risk assessment" as a scientific approach of toxicology

appropriate to nutrients which are, by definition, non-toxic, for

example), distortion ("CAFTA and FTAA have CODEX language in them so

they are the same as the CODEX problem") and distraction (who is a

Druid?, who is a witch?, who is "Controlled Opposition"?, who is a CIA

Agent?, who is a good person?, who is a bad person?, etc.") you are

right." The

psychologically-charged words here are "manipulation,distortion,"

and "distraction." John Hammell had made the clear connection between

CAFTA and Codex, and had accused the Natural Solutions Foundation (Dr.

Laibow's group) and several other organizations of being "controlled

opposition groups" – groups taken over by, or owned by, people who

appear to be opposed to Codex but who promote useless activism or tell

people that there is nothing to worry about. In the above message, Dr.

Laibow psychologically marginalizes Hammell's position, not by refuting

it, but by merely using words that do so by their psychological power

in our culture among her audience. Here is another even more dramatic example, from the next paragraph in her message:

"So

the infighting and turf wars which have provided this distortion and

distraction (and which the Natural Solutions Foundation will not

dignify by entering since there is plenty of turf to go around in the

world of health freedom) fulfill the role of the bloated and

meaningless "news" that keeps us disconnected both from reality and

from its meaning." Note

the lead-in, using the psychologically-charged words "infighting" and

"turf wars" before repeating the words "distortion" and "distraction."

She goes on to say that *her* (that is, her follower's) organization

stands above all this ("will not dignify by entering"). Then she goes

in for the psychological kill: "bloated and meaningless news" that

keeps us "disconnected both from reality and its meaning." At this

point, most readers would be subconsciously and consciously convinced

that John Hammell is involving us in "turf wars,keeping us

disconnected" from reality by distorting the facts and distracting

everyone with "bloated and meaningless" news. Finally,

here is the psychological lead-out that puts people into their "comfort

zone" knowing that what she has stated above is right and just: "Read,

study, follow the links and make sure that you are comfortable with

both what is presented and what is concluded from that. Above all,

question your sources and evaluate the answers carefully. I know that I

do. "You

won't always be correct, but you can always be informed. If you are an

American, Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers gave you that

opportunity and obligation." If

people were feeling at all uncomfortable with her subtle attack on

Hammell, this puts their minds at ease. Acting as if she had presented

unbiased information, she uses the psychologically-charged words and

phrases "comfortable,question your sources," and "evaluate the

answers carefully." Then confirming that her audience is intelligent,

she reminds them that they "won't always be correct" but can "always be

informed." Last but not least, she invokes Thomas Jefferson and the

founding fathers giving us the "opportunity and obligation" to be

informed. In

a similar article using similar psychological techniques, Dr. Laibow

convinces readers, using psychologically-charged words such as

"forces,intentional disinformation,misleading," and "irrelevant"

to convince her readers that attempting to stop the multinational

treaty process is a waste of time, that instead they need to focus on

changing the Codex regulations. Here's are some excerpts: "FTAA

and CAFTA are really bad ideas for US interests. But all the recent

focus in them as related to the CODEX issue because they contain CODEX

language is either an error in the understanding of the real nature of

the CODEX problem or, worse yet, intentional disinformation to drain

off energy and political force from opposition to CODEX ALIMENTARIUS.

FTAA and CAFTA are totally irrelevant to the CODEX issue.Some

people in the CODEX arena are now focusing on FTAA and CAFTA and saying

that it is a waste of time to focus in CODEX because FTAA and CAFTA

contain CODEX language in their text. These forces are either using

mis- or dis- information by misleading people to think that because

these trade agreements contain CODEX language they somehow are a

significant part of the Codex problem." Dr.

Laibow does not reveal that the many Codex committees are all

controlled by the multinational agricultural and pharmaceutical

companies, so that it is precisely what she is telling people to do –

trying to change the Codex regulations – is fruitless. She does not

reveal that the Codex regulations themselves, without multinational

agreements such as FTAA and CAFTA in place, are just pieces of paper

that lack any power. These

are masterful uses of Semantic Differential. Many orators and

politicians have mastered this kind of psychological use of words

without learning it from Army Intelligence, but one can only wonder

where a naturopathic doctor such as Dr. Laibow might have learned to

write in this fashion. Perhaps it was from working with her husband,

General Albert Stubblebine, former head of the US Army Intelligence

& Security Command (INSCOM) 1981-84. Anyone in that position would

be steeped in knowledge about psychological warfare techniques and

especially about the use of Semantic Differential. While

Dr. Laibow's activism against the extreme excesses of the

pharmaceutical industry appear to be genuine, one can only wonder why

she is so intent on marginalizing those who want people to make the

connection between Codex and the efforts by these same multinational

corporations to enforce the Codex regulations and to place jurisdiction

for that enforcement outside of Congress through multinational

agreements such as WTO, CAFTA, and FTAA. Jonathan Campbell

November 4, 2005

References:

Dr. Laibow's messages

and

Dr. Laibow's messagesAnd I would once more point out that one of our valued and trusted members, from the International Wellness Directory, reports that he has had issues with being given inaccurate information from this group before, and that they refused to correct their misinformation once it was pointed out to them.NOT the group I want to carry the flag with!Take action, but take it wisely!

April 24, 2007

Not Standard Products, Tony. Standard Process Labs, founded by Royal

Lee. The largest chiropractic supplement distributor. All you have to

do is read the position papers by the FDA, and the House and Senate

bills. I am part of the PAC for the Texas Health Freedom Alliance. We

have been fighting State measures here, and proposing our own bills.

Dr. Goebel

April 24, 2007

Oops - I beg your pardon. My brain knew that, but my fingers got the signal wrong - lol.Standard Process Labs I have great respect for, and I also share in the correctness and the urgency of sending in our comments and letting our feelings be known to our elected officials, the FDA and our circle of friends.It is the group Dr. Laibow founded with her husband that I have issues with - and it was their message that was quoted by Standard Process.TonyMichael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: Not Standard

Products, Tony. Standard Process Labs, founded by Royal Lee. The largest chiropractic supplement distributor. All you have to do is read the position papers by the FDA, and the House and Senate bills. I am part of the PAC for the Texas Health Freedom Alliance. We have been fighting State measures here, and proposing our own bills. Dr. Goebel

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