What this forum is about - by the Moderator

April 2, 2007

Dear Group -This site was indeed created to primarily discuss the healing powers of oleander, especially as it applies to cancer, hepatitis-C, HIV-AIDS, psoriasis and other cell proliferative diseases, as well as other conditions.No, it was not created for information about dating sites for people with STD's, but since oleander, singly and in combination with other botanicals, has been proven to be highly effective for people with HIV-AIDS, and since HIV-AIDS is primarily passed along via sexual congress, I will allow the post to stand and simply admonish that there need be no further discussion or expansion of the topic.NOW, as regards what IS appropriate here, let me state that as moderator of the group that is entirely up to me. First and foremost, yes, the PRIMARY focus of this group has always been oleander and I would like to see more information posted about oleander, especially information and reports of those who are using it or who have used it, and yes, oleander is and will continue to be the preferred number one topic and focus of this group.However, since this forum lay pretty much dormant for several months while myself and the forum were under attack from a criminal who was promoting a fake oleander cancer drug and who was attacking any and all perceived opponents, I suspect that it may take awhile for such reports and testimonials to begin coming in again. In the in the interim, if I can help people learn more about ways to relieve pain and suffering naturally, I feel that I am performing a service and I disagree that doing so is off topic for the following reasons:In the original wording used to describe the group when I formed it, and which is still posted on the home page, it clearly states what the focus of the group is intended to be, but ALSO STATES:"Other suggested topics for this forum: support for other members, the history of oleander use including Doctor Ozel's work in Turkey, how oleander soup compares with other oleander products, news involving oleander products and treatments, other natural cures and remedies, tips for treating or preventing diseases, and modern medicine versus natural medicine."I would like to point out that I am keenly interested in the entire field of natural health and natural remedies. I was in fact, researching natural health and anti-aging in general when I began to focus on oleander and other remedies for cancer after my cousin was diagnosed with stage 3 melanoma. That led to my book, and lead to this forum. However, I continue to research and write about a very broad list of items related to natural health and I happen to know that there are a great many members in this forum who share a broad interest in natural health and healing. If we can help one another by posting such information, I quite frankly fail to see the harm.Perhaps the best solution might be for me to someday create a second forum for natural health in general. Time permitting, I will be happy to do so when we began to see enough posts regarding oleander to keep this forum alive and moving along. For now, I guess the group members will just have to put up with me trying to be helpful in more than one area of natural health and remedies and hope it does not offend too many members.Tonyoleander soup , "jameszeemadison" <jameszeemadison wrote:>> BRAVO ED , BRAVO!!!>oleander soup , "jameszeemadison" <jameszeemadison wrote:>> BRAVO ED , BRAVO!!!>

April 3, 2007

I was enthused enough after reading about oleander soup one week to

find my cousin that weekend and cook up my first batch. I have 5

gallons in my refrigerator now.

My PSA was 4.2 about 2 years ago. In 4 months using oleander soup,

beta sitosterol, and some herbs, my PSA was at 3.1. I now urinate

like the proverbial bull on a flat rock. I continue to use a teaspoon

per day as a preventative.

A 70 year-old friend has some skin cancers. I gave him the liquid and

some creme. He reported that his skin began to look better during the

first week.

My admonition to read, read, read. Educate yourself. Much good

information is available here, and sources of further reading are

mentioned.

Dr. Goebel

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April 3, 2007

i second the bravo!dianaOn 4/2/07, Tony wrote:

Dear Group -This site was indeed created to primarily discuss the healing powers of oleander, especially as it applies to cancer, hepatitis-C, HIV-AIDS, psoriasis and other cell proliferative diseases, as well as other conditions.

No, it was not created for information about dating sites for people with STD's, but since oleander, singly and in combination with other botanicals, has been proven to be highly effective for people with HIV-AIDS, and since HIV-AIDS is primarily passed along via sexual congress, I will allow the post to stand and simply admonish that there need be no further discussion or expansion of the topic.

NOW, as regards what IS appropriate here, let me state that as moderator of the group that is entirely up to me. First and foremost, yes, the PRIMARY focus of this group has always been oleander and I would like to see more information posted about oleander, especially information and reports of those who are using it or who have used it, and yes, oleander is and will continue to be the preferred number one topic and focus of this group.

However, since this forum lay pretty much dormant for several months while myself and the forum were under attack from a criminal who was promoting a fake oleander cancer drug and who was attacking any and all perceived opponents, I suspect that it may take awhile for such reports and testimonials to begin coming in again. In the in the interim, if I can help people learn more about ways to relieve pain and suffering naturally, I feel that I am performing a service and I disagree that doing so is off topic for the following reasons:

In the original wording used to describe the group when I formed it, and which is still posted on the home page, it clearly states what the focus of the group is intended to be, but ALSO STATES: " Other suggested topics

for this forum: support for other members, the history of oleander use including Doctor Ozel's work in Turkey, how oleander soup compares with other oleander products, news involving oleander products and treatments, other natural cures and remedies, tips for treating or preventing diseases, and modern medicine versus natural medicine. " I would like to point out that I am keenly interested in the entire field of natural health and natural remedies. I was in fact, researching natural health and anti-aging in general when I began to focus on oleander and other remedies for cancer after my cousin was diagnosed with stage 3 melanoma. That led to my book, and lead to this forum. However, I continue to research and write about a very broad list of items related to natural health and I happen to know that there are a great many members in this forum who share a broad interest in natural health and healing. If we can help one another by posting such information, I quite frankly fail to see the harm.

Perhaps the best solution might be for me to someday create a second forum for natural health in general. Time permitting, I will be happy to do so when we began to see enough posts regarding oleander to keep this forum alive and moving along. For now, I guess the group members will just have to put up with me trying to be helpful in more than one area of natural health and remedies and hope it does not offend too many members.

Tonyoleander soup , " jameszeemadison " <jameszeemadison wrote:

>> BRAVO ED , BRAVO!!!>oleander soup , " jameszeemadison " <jameszeemadison wrote:>> BRAVO ED , BRAVO!!!

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