Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks Here is the link I found http://www.bodyandmind.co.za/merchant_nc.php?pid=901 & step=4 I noticed that on some of the sites selling this product, in the US, there are other products used in conjunction eg., Agaricus on its own, and RaaX11. Do you have any comment on these? Robyn Salome gam nan ben Urda, gan njber asala Hesporona! Peace be on Earth, and among all beings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Robyn -Yes, I did a google search and found the same site. The OPC product there is the exact same OPC product and it must be one licensed by patent holder Marc Swanepoel.A better source in my opinion (and given what you said about the email address) is Marc himself.The RaaX11 product of Agaricus.net and it's US affiliate is pretty much the ABM mushroom and chrysobalanus icaco (the red-tipped coco plum). C. icaco is a relative newcomer which has had some promising in vitro results, but it is relatively hard to find in the Amazon where the agaricus manufacturing facility is located and this, along with a sizeable profit motive, drives the price up substantially.Taking the RaaX11 product by itself or along with OPC has produced some impressive results, according to Agaricus - but I personally would opt just for the OPC and perhaps add some additional ABM extract, which is much less expensive on its own. I think the jury is still out on c. icaco, and it is noteworthy that the patent holder for OPC and OPC Plus (which contains c. icaco and) has opted to use just the OPC for both cancer and HIV now.For that matter, the patent holder firmly believes that it is the oleander in OPC that is responsible for most of the potency - but, like him, I really do like the other three botanicals along with the oleander. They all have long and impressive histories of use by indigenous Amazon peoples as well as impressive studies that back up their effectiveness.TonyRobyn <folco wrote: Thanks Tony Here is the link I found http://www.bodyandmind.co.za/merchant_nc.php?pid=901 & step=4 I noticed that on some of the sites selling this product, in the US, there are other products used in conjunction eg., Agaricus on its own, and RaaX11. Do you have any comment on these? Robyn Salome gam nan ben Urda, gan njber asala Hesporona! Peace be on Earth, and among all beings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Tony, That site is a of a local supplier who gets the OPC from me. I don't think he is equiped to sell overseas. Marc - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:25 PM Re: OPC Robyn -Yes, I did a google search and found the same site. The OPC product there is the exact same OPC product and it must be one licensed by patent holder Marc Swanepoel.A better source in my opinion (and given what you said about the email address) is Marc himself.The RaaX11 product of Agaricus.net and it's US affiliate is pretty much the ABM mushroom and chrysobalanus icaco (the red-tipped coco plum). C. icaco is a relative newcomer which has had some promising in vitro results, but it is relatively hard to find in the Amazon where the agaricus manufacturing facility is located and this, along with a sizeable profit motive, drives the price up substantially.Taking the RaaX11 product by itself or along with OPC has produced some impressive results, according to Agaricus - but I personally would opt just for the OPC and perhaps add some additional ABM extract, which is much less expensive on its own. I think th e jury is still out on c. icaco, and it is noteworthy that the patent holder for OPC and OPC Plus (which contains c. icaco and) has opted to use just the OPC for both cancer and HIV now.For that matter, the patent holder firmly believes that it is the oleander in OPC that is responsible for most of the potency - but, like him, I really do like the other three botanicals along with the oleander. They all have long and impressive histories of use by indigenous Amazon peoples as well as impressive studies that back up their effectiveness.TonyRobyn <folco (AT) lizzy (DOT) com.au> wrote: Thanks Here is the link I found http://www.bodyandmind.co.za/merchant_nc.php?pid=901 & step=4 I noticed that on some of the sites selling this product, in the US, there are other products used in conjunction eg., Agaricus on its own, and RaaX11. Do you have any comment on these? Robyn Salome gam nan ben Urda, gan njber asala Hesporona! Peace be on Earth, and among all beings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Marc -Hiya, my friend! I thought that might be the case. You may want to tell him that he has an apparent problem with his email address, and if so, might be missing sales.TonyMarc Swanepoel <marcswan wrote: Tony, That site is a of a local supplier who gets the OPC from me. I don't think he is equiped to sell overseas. Marc - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:25 PM Re: OPC Robyn -Yes, I did a google search and found the same site. The OPC product there is the exact same OPC product and it must be one licensed by patent holder Marc Swanepoel.A better source in my opinion (and given what you said about the email address) is Marc himself.The RaaX11 product of Agaricus.net and it's US affiliate is pretty much the ABM mushroom and chrysobalanus icaco (the red-tipped coco plum). C. icaco is a relative newcomer which has had some promising in vitro results, but it is relatively hard to find in the Amazon where the agaricus manufacturing facility is located and this, along with a sizeable profit motive, drives the price up substantially.Taking the RaaX11 product by itself or along with OPC has produced some impressive results, according to Agaricus - but I personally would opt just for the OPC and perhaps add some additional ABM extract, which is much less expensive on its own. I think th e jury is still out on c. icaco, and it is noteworthy that the patent holder for OPC and OPC Plus (which contains c. icaco and) has opted to use just the OPC for both cancer and HIV now.For that matter, the patent holder firmly believes that it is the oleander in OPC that is responsible for most of the potency - but, like him, I really do like the other three botanicals along with the oleander. They all have long and impressive histories of use by indigenous Amazon peoples as well as impressive studies that back up their effectiveness.TonyRobyn <folco (AT) lizzy (DOT) com.au> wrote: Thanks Tony Here is the link I found http://www.bodyandmind.co.za/merchant_nc.php?pid=901 & step=4 I noticed that on some of the sites selling this product, in the US, there are other products used in conjunction eg., Agaricus on its own, and RaaX11. Do you have any comment on these? Robyn Salome gam nan ben Urda, gan njber asala Hesporona! Peace be on Earth, and among all beings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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