Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Tony, I have read your list of the " good and bad " and have read the cancer tutor's web site. I have cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - and mostly from the good list, I do occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like at holiday times, but try to stay with the " good " side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula, Barley Greens, " Acidgone " from Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloe vera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went to my chiropractor, who is also a nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan that measures your levels of antioxidants. Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy is above 30,000 to 40,000. Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were putting something else with all of the above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? I know that you are not a dr. It is just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths, make that - none, that I am aware of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I just want to try to insure that it doesn't turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendations for acid relfux. I still have a little bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in the back of my thoart. I know that this is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combine the oleander with some other product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid? One company advertises one that also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Janna -From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola, resveratol, and ellagic acid. There has also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin (turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom. it is not called "The Mushroom of God" for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer.My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanical supplement manufacturing company in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplements have been used successfully for breast cancer by many people around the world, including a well known UK journalist who writes for The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It is his company that now makes two supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroom extract as well as extracts from two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is used specifically for cancer and the other is the one that is now being used with government blessings in South Africa to reverse AIDS symptoms. Potent stuff!It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle - congratulations on your high level of antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such as liver and colon cleanses? There is an excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barron that cleanses the liver, gall bladder, kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice a year), a lot of heavy metals, pesticides and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an opening for future health problems.Tony dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart wrote: Tony, I have read your list of the "good and bad" and have read the cancer tutor's web site. I have cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - and mostly from the good list, I do occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like at holiday times, but try to stay with the "good" side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula, Barley Greens, "Acidgone" from Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloe vera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went to my chiropractor, who is also a nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan that measures your levels of antioxidants. Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy is above 30,000 to 40,000. Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were putting something else with all of the above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? I know that you are not a dr. It is just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths, make that - none, that I am aware of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I just want to try to insure that it doesn't turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendations for acid relfux. I still have a little bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in the back of my thoart. I know that this is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combine the oleander with some other product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid? One company advertises one that also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 I haven't done any of the cleanses. I have been really hoping to get to feeling better and then, I intend to do some cleanses. I have been troubled with insomnia, as well as waking up after just a few hours of sleep when I do just " fall alseep. " Menopause and cancer really wretched havoc with my sleep system. I am working with a naturopath to get that under control. I have also had a lot of back trouble lately. I have been looking at the far infrared mat. I tried one and had the most relief from pain that I have ever had in my life, and it lasted the rest of that day. Imagine having one and being able to get that relief every day! It is, however, one of those big ticket items. I am thinking that if I get it, I could offer it to people for a small fee to make up the cost of the product. But, as to the cleanses, when I get my sleep underbetter control, I plan on doing a cleanse. Thanks for the thoughts, Janna > > Tony Isaacs > 2005/12/30 Fri PM 07:20:03 EST > oleander soup > Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > Janna - > > From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola, resveratol, and ellagic acid. There has also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin (turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom. it is not called " The Mushroom of God " for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer. > > My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanical supplement manufacturing company in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplements have been used successfully for breast cancer by many people around the world, including a well known UK journalist who writes for The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It is his company that now makes two supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroom extract as well as extracts from two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is used specifically for cancer and the other is the one that is now being used with government blessings in South Africa to reverse AIDS symptoms. Potent stuff! > > It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle - congratulations on your high level of antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such as liver and colon cleanses? There is an excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barron that cleanses the liver, gall bladder, kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice a year), a lot of heavy metals, pesticides and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an opening for future health problems. > > > > > > dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart wrote: Tony, > I have read your list of the " good and bad " and have read the cancer tutor's web site. I have > cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - and mostly from the good list, I do > occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like at holiday times, but try to stay with the > " good " side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula, Barley Greens, " Acidgone " from > Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloe vera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 > teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went to my chiropractor, who is also a > nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan that measures your levels of antioxidants. > Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy is above 30,000 to 40,000. > Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were putting something else with all of the > above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? I know that you are not a dr. It is > just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths, make that - none, that I am aware > of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I just want to try to insure that it doesn't > turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendations for acid relfux. I still have a little > bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in the back of my thoart. I know that this > is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combine the oleander with some other > product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid? One company advertises one that > also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Hi Janna.....way to go.....but Im so sorry about your sleep..sleep is a huge problem since your Immune System needs to repair and do all the sleep cycles esp delta sleep.......heres how I corrected my sleep..which was a 10 year old problem...falling asleep and waking up all the time....melatonin is one.......which also helps stress 1 mg if you can tolerate 2 mg of melatonin at night...3mg is my limit but I prefer 1 or 1.5 ...also helps with hot flashes, a sleep mask that covers the eyes.... a progesterone cream ...from plants processed correctly.....and a magnetic pillow preferably Nikkens.....and for your back maybe a $80 back magnet may be all you need.....if you really like the pad send an email broadcast to your friends /family and have them contribute $100 or so each towards it in your name and tell the manufacturer whats going on..like a fundraiser for yourself called into the manufacturer under your name........but keep up the great work...all sorts of Valerian , hops based products some work better than others Chinese herbs work very well too.. but its the natural hormones that do the trick...are you taking any bio Identical hormones.. keep up the great work i havent made my soup yet my clippings are too small ..so im searching nurseries to find a big plant......ciao p.s. i like Aloe Vera gel too mint flavored if possible to clean out the colon ...ciao Sandy - cr8iveart oleander soup Friday, December 30, 2005 11:05 PM Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc I haven't done any of the cleanses. I have been really hoping to get to feeling better and then, I intend to do some cleanses. I have been troubled with insomnia, as well as waking up after just a few hours of sleep when I do just "fall alseep." Menopause and cancer really wretched havoc with my sleep system. I am working with a naturopath to get that under control. I have also had a lot of back trouble lately. I have been looking at the far infrared mat. I tried one and had the most relief from pain that I have ever had in my life, and it lasted the rest of that day. Imagine having one and being able to get that relief every day! It is, however, one of those big ticket items. I am thinking that if I get it, I could offer it to people for a small fee to make up the cost of the product. But, as to the cleanses, when I get my sleep underbetter control, I plan on doing a cleanse. Thanks for the thoughts, Janna> > Tony Isaacs > 2005/12/30 Fri PM 07:20:03 EST> oleander soup > Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc> > Janna -> > From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola, resveratol, and ellagic acid. There has also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin (turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom. it is not called "The Mushroom of God" for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer.> > My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanical supplement manufacturing company in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplements have been used successfully for breast cancer by many people around the world, including a well known UK journalist who writes for The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It is his company that now makes two supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroom extract as well as extracts from two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is used specifically for cancer and the other is the one that is now being used with government blessings in South Africa to reverse AIDS symptoms. Potent stuff!> > It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle - congratulations on your high level of antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such as liver and colon cleanses? There is an excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barron that cleanses the liver, gall bladder, kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice a year), a lot of heavy metals, pesticides and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an opening for future health problems.> > Tony > > > > dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart wrote: Tony,> I have read your list of the "good and bad" and have read the cancer tutor's web site. I have > cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - and mostly from the good list, I do > occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like at holiday times, but try to stay with the > "good" side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula, Barley Greens, "Acidgone" from > Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloe vera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 > teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went to my chiropractor, who is also a > nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan that measures your levels of antioxidants. > Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy is above 30,000 to 40,000. > Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were putting something else with all of the > above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? I know that you are not a dr. It is > just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths, make that - none, that I am aware > of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I just want to try to insure that it doesn't > turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendations for acid relfux. I still have a little > bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in the back of my thoart. I know that this > is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combine the oleander with some other > product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid? One company advertises one that > also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 When you find the secret to a good night's sleep - let me know. I am still looking (although I suspect that in my case, a bit of dieting and exercise may hold the key). Reflux and apnea can play havoc with sleep, that is for sure.Among many benefits, when you do a cleanse it should make your entire body more receptive to your supplements. Be sure to replace your beneficial stomach bacteria as soon as your cleanse is over so that they can be re-established and gain control before any bad bacteria can gain a foothold.Tonycr8iveart wrote: I haven't done any of the cleanses. I have been really hoping to get to feeling better and then, I intend to do some cleanses. I have been troubled with insomnia, as well as waking up after just a few hours of sleep when I do just "fall alseep." Menopause and cancer really wretched havoc with my sleep system. I am working with a naturopath to get that under control. I have also had a lot of back trouble lately. I have been looking at the far infrared mat. I tried one and had the most relief from pain that I have ever had in my life, and it lasted the rest of that day. Imagine having one and being able to get that relief every day! It is, however, one of those big ticket items. I am thinking that if I get it, I could offer it to people for a small fee to make up the cost of the product. But, as to the cleanses, when I get my sleep underbetter control, I plan on doing a cleanse. Thanks for the thoughts, Janna > > Tony Isaacs > 2005/12/30 Fri PM 07:20:03 EST > oleander soup > Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > Janna - > > From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola, resveratol, and ellagic acid. There has also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin (turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom. it is not called "The Mushroom of God" for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer. > > My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanical supplement manufacturing company in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplements have been used successfully for breast cancer by many people around the world, including a well known UK journalist who writes for The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It is his company that now makes two supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroom extract as well as extracts from two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is used specifically for cancer and the other is the one that is now being used with government blessings in South Africa to reverse AIDS symptoms. Potent stuff! > > It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle - congratulations on your high level of antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such as liver and colon cleanses? There is an excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barron that cleanses the liver, gall bladder, kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice a year), a lot of heavy metals, pesticides and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an opening for future health problems. > > Tony > > > > dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart wrote: Tony, > I have read your list of the "good and bad" and have read the cancer tutor's web site. I have > cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - and mostly from the good list, I do > occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like at holiday times, but try to stay with the > "good" side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula, Barley Greens, "Acidgone" from > Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloe vera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 > teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went to my chiropractor, who is also a > nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan that measures your levels of antioxidants. > Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy is above 30,000 to 40,000. > Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were putting something else with all of the > above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? I know that you are not a dr. It is > just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths, make that - none, that I am aware > of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I just want to try to insure that it doesn't > turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendations for acid relfux. I still have a little > bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in the back of my thoart. I know that this > is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combine the oleander with some other > product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid? One company advertises one that > also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Sandy, There is a nursery in Mobile,Alabama that has several oleander plants. If they don't still have the plants, Good Winds Landscape and Garden Center, 2238 Sunset Road, Germantown, TN 38138 - 901-758-1185, has several still left. That is where I got mine. The ones that they have are about four feet tall and in good shape. They are in a greenhouse being " wintered over. " Just an idea, if others don't pan out. Thanks for the suggestions for sleep. The melatonin doesn't seem to work for me. But some of the plant botanicals - Valerian, etc seem to be helping. I have put a call out to friends about the mat - not sharing the expense, but using it for a small fee, if I get it, for those who have problems that they want to address. I may try the progesterone cream, if I can find a plant based one. Thanks, Janna > > " Al Cizauskas " <destress > 2005/12/31 Sat AM 01:50:13 EST > <oleander soup > > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > Hi Janna.....way to go.....but Im so sorry about your sleep..sleep is a huge problem since your Immune System needs to repair and do all the sleep cycles esp delta sleep.......heres how I corrected my sleep..which was a 10 year old problem...falling asleep and waking up all the time....melatonin is one.......which also helps stress 1 mg if you can tolerate 2 mg of melatonin at night...3mg is my limit but I prefer 1 or 1.5 ...also helps with hot flashes, a sleep mask that covers the eyes.... a progesterone cream ...from plants processed correctly.....and a magnetic pillow preferably Nikkens.....and for your back maybe a $80 back magnet may be all you need.....if you really like the pad send an email broadcast to your friends /family and have them contribute $100 or so each towards it in your name and tell the manufacturer whats going on..like a fundraiser for yourself called into the manufacturer under your name........but keep up the great work...all sorts of Valerian , hops based products some work better than others Chinese herbs work very well too.. but its the natural hormones that do the trick...are you taking any bio Identical hormones.. keep up the great work i havent made my soup yet my clippings are too small ..so im searching nurseries to find a big plant......ciao p.s. i like Aloe Vera gel too mint flavored if possible to clean out the colon ...ciao Sandy > - > cr8iveart > oleander soup > Friday, December 30, 2005 11:05 PM > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > > I haven't done any of the cleanses. I have been really hoping to get to feeling better and then, I intend > to do some cleanses. I have been troubled with insomnia, as well as waking up after just a few hours > of sleep when I do just " fall alseep. " Menopause and cancer really wretched havoc with my sleep > system. I am working with a naturopath to get that under control. I have also had a lot of back trouble > lately. I have been looking at the far infrared mat. I tried one and had the most relief from pain that I > have ever had in my life, and it lasted the rest of that day. Imagine having one and being able to get > that relief every day! It is, however, one of those big ticket items. I am thinking that if I get it, I could > offer it to people for a small fee to make up the cost of the product. But, as to the cleanses, when I get > my sleep underbetter control, I plan on doing a cleanse. Thanks for the thoughts, Janna > > > > Tony Isaacs > > 2005/12/30 Fri PM 07:20:03 EST > > oleander soup > > Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > > > Janna - > > > > From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola, resveratol, and ellagic acid. There has > also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin (turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am > MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom. it is not called " The Mushroom of > God " for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer. > > > > My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanical supplement manufacturing company > in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplements have been used successfully for > breast cancer by many people around the world, including a well known UK journalist who writes for > The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It is his company that now makes two > supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroom extract as well as extracts from > two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is used specifically for cancer and the other is the one > that is now being used with government blessings in South Africa to reverse AIDS symptoms. Potent > stuff! > > > > It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle - congratulations on your high level of > antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such as liver and colon cleanses? There is an > excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barron that cleanses the liver, gall bladder, > kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice a year), a lot of heavy metals, pesticides > and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an opening for future health problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart wrote: Tony, > > I have read your list of the " good and bad " and have read the cancer tutor's web site. I have > > cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - and mostly from the good list, I do > > occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like at holiday times, but try to stay with the > > " good " side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula, Barley Greens, " Acidgone " from > > Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloe vera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 > > teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went to my chiropractor, who is also a > > nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan that measures your levels of antioxidants. > > Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy is above 30,000 to 40,000. > > Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were putting something else with all of the > > above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? I know that you are not a dr. It is > > just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths, make that - none, that I am aware > > of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I just want to try to insure that it doesn't > > turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendations for acid relfux. I still have a little > > bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in the back of my thoart. I know that this > > is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combine the oleander with some other > > product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid? One company advertises one that > > also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Amazing. Here I am at our house in Corpus Christi, Texas, on Padre Island, the temp. is 72 degrees f., and my house is surrounded with oleander plants, all filled with fresh, new growth, begging to be cut, trimmed, and trashed, if only to keep their shape and not overhang onto our back deck. The main road to the subdivision, Padre Island Drive, is one huge boulevard with an esplanade at least a mile long filled with, you guessed it, beautiful, in need of a trim, oleander plants. More than enough to trim, and make enough soup for an army of soup users. If the demand was there, I know I could inform any local tree trimmer he could take the trimmings he trashes at least five times a year, and sell them to oleander soup makers. I've sent clippings before, placing them in a plastic shopping bag, and into a medium first class mailing box. They keep for at least a week without damage, even in hot weather. You can grow the plant by planting a defrocked clipping in protected mulch, indoors, where it will sprout in about a month. I don't have time to do this myself, but in winter, the tree trimmers are desperate for work and the oleander is abundant in this area. They could trim for free and justify the effort if they could sell the clippings. So, what's the reasonable price for a plastic shopping bag filled with fresh clippings? This fills an 8 qt. pot and makes about a quart of standard recipe, which is doubled when you add preservative. The mailing cost is about $10.00. Value? Price? Demand? It's all in the numbers. Here, the trimmers make about $25 an hour. Ed oleander soup , <cr8iveart@b...> wrote: > > Sandy, > There is a nursery in Mobile,Alabama that has several oleander plants. If they don't still have the > plants, Good Winds Landscape and Garden Center, 2238 Sunset Road, Germantown, TN 38138 - > 901-758-1185, has several still left. That is where I got mine. The ones that they have are about four > feet tall and in good shape. They are in a greenhouse being " wintered over. " Just an idea, if others > don't pan out. Thanks for the suggestions for sleep. The melatonin doesn't seem to work for me. But > some of the plant botanicals - Valerian, etc seem to be helping. I have put a call out to friends about > the mat - not sharing the expense, but using it for a small fee, if I get it, for those who have problems > that they want to address. I may try the progesterone cream, if I can find a plant based one. Thanks, > Janna > > > > " Al Cizauskas " <destress@t...> > > 2005/12/31 Sat AM 01:50:13 EST > > <oleander soup > > > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > > > Hi Janna.....way to go.....but Im so sorry about your sleep..sleep is a huge problem since your > Immune System needs to repair and do all the sleep cycles esp delta sleep.......heres how I > corrected my sleep..which was a 10 year old problem...falling asleep and waking up all the > time....melatonin is one.......which also helps stress 1 mg if you can tolerate 2 mg of melatonin at > night...3mg is my limit but I prefer 1 or 1.5 ...also helps with hot flashes, a sleep mask that covers the > eyes.... a progesterone cream ...from plants processed correctly.....and a magnetic pillow preferably > Nikkens.....and for your back maybe a $80 back magnet may be all you need.....if you really like the > pad send an email broadcast to your friends /family and have them contribute $100 or so each > towards it in your name and tell the manufacturer whats going on..like a fundraiser for yourself called > into the manufacturer under your name........but keep up the great work...all sorts of Valerian , hops > based products some work better than others Chinese herbs work very well too.. but its the natural > hormones that do the trick...are you taking any bio Identical hormones.. keep up the great work i > havent made my soup yet my clippings are too small ..so im searching nurseries to find a big > plant......ciao p.s. i like Aloe Vera gel too mint flavored if possible to clean out the colon ...ciao Sandy > > - > > cr8iveart@b... > > oleander soup > > Friday, December 30, 2005 11:05 PM > > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > > > > > I haven't done any of the cleanses. I have been really hoping to get to feeling better and then, I > intend > > to do some cleanses. I have been troubled with insomnia, as well as waking up after just a few > hours > > of sleep when I do just " fall alseep. " Menopause and cancer really wretched havoc with my sleep > > system. I am working with a naturopath to get that under control. I have also had a lot of back > trouble > > lately. I have been looking at the far infrared mat. I tried one and had the most relief from pain that I > > have ever had in my life, and it lasted the rest of that day. Imagine having one and being able to > get > > that relief every day! It is, however, one of those big ticket items. I am thinking that if I get it, I could > > offer it to people for a small fee to make up the cost of the product. But, as to the cleanses, when I > get > > my sleep underbetter control, I plan on doing a cleanse. Thanks for the thoughts, Janna > > > > > > Tony Isaacs > > > > 2005/12/30 Fri PM 07:20:03 EST > > > oleander soup > > > Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc > > > > > > Janna - > > > > > > From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola, resveratol, and ellagic acid. There > has > > also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin (turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am > > MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom. it is not called " The > Mushroom of > > God " for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer. > > > > > > My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanical supplement manufacturing > company > > in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplements have been used successfully > for > > breast cancer by many people around the world, including a well known UK journalist who writes > for > > The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It is his company that now makes two > > supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroom extract as well as extracts > from > > two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is used specifically for cancer and the other is the > one > > that is now being used with government blessings in South Africa to reverse AIDS symptoms. > Potent > > stuff! > > > > > > It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle - congratulations on your high level of > > antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such as liver and colon cleanses? There is an > > excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barron that cleanses the liver, gall > bladder, > > kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice a year), a lot of heavy metals, > pesticides > > and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an opening for future health problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart@b...> wrote: Tony, > > > I have read your list of the " good and bad " and have read the cancer tutor's web site. I have > > > cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - and mostly from the good list, I do > > > occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like at holiday times, but try to stay with the > > > " good " side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula, Barley Greens, " Acidgone " from > > > Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloe vera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 > > > teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went to my chiropractor, who is also a > > > nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan that measures your levels of antioxidants. > > > Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy is above 30,000 to 40,000. > > > Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were putting something else with all of the > > > above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? I know that you are not a dr. It is > > > just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths, make that - none, that I am aware > > > of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I just want to try to insure that it doesn't > > > turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendations for acid relfux. I still have a little > > > bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in the back of my thoart. I know that this > > > is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combine the oleander with some other > > > product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid? One company advertises one that > > > also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Edward lets talk tomorrow.........sandy xxxxxxx - Edward F. Hensley, J.D. oleander soup Saturday, December 31, 2005 11:30 PM Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc Amazing. Here I am at our house in Corpus Christi, Texas, on PadreIsland, the temp. is 72 degrees f., and my house is surrounded witholeander plants, all filled with fresh, new growth, begging to be cut,trimmed, and trashed, if only to keep their shape and not overhangonto our back deck. The main road to the subdivision, Padre IslandDrive, is one huge boulevard with an esplanade at least a mile longfilled with, you guessed it, beautiful, in need of a trim, oleanderplants. More than enough to trim, and make enough soup for an army ofsoup users. If the demand was there, I know I could inform any local tree trimmerhe could take the trimmings he trashes at least five times a year, andsell them to oleander soup makers. I've sent clippings before,placing them in a plastic shopping bag, and into a medium first classmailing box. They keep for at least a week without damage, even inhot weather. You can grow the plant by planting a defrocked clippingin protected mulch, indoors, where it will sprout in about a month. I don't have time to do this myself, but in winter, the tree trimmersare desperate for work and the oleander is abundant in this area. They could trim for free and justify the effort if they could sell theclippings. So, what's the reasonable price for a plastic shopping bagfilled with fresh clippings? This fills an 8 qt. pot and makes abouta quart of standard recipe, which is doubled when you add preservative. The mailing cost is about $10.00. Value? Price? Demand? It's allin the numbers. Here, the trimmers make about $25 an hour. Edoleander soup , <cr8iveart@b...> wrote:>> Sandy, > There is a nursery in Mobile,Alabama that has several oleanderplants. If they don't still have the > plants, Good Winds Landscape and Garden Center, 2238 Sunset Road,Germantown, TN 38138 - > 901-758-1185, has several still left. That is where I got mine. Theones that they have are about four > feet tall and in good shape. They are in a greenhouse being"wintered over." Just an idea, if others > don't pan out. Thanks for the suggestions for sleep. The melatonindoesn't seem to work for me. But > some of the plant botanicals - Valerian, etc seem to be helping. Ihave put a call out to friends about > the mat - not sharing the expense, but using it for a small fee, ifI get it, for those who have problems > that they want to address. I may try the progesterone cream, if Ican find a plant based one. Thanks, > Janna> > > > "Al Cizauskas" <destress@t...>> > 2005/12/31 Sat AM 01:50:13 EST> > <oleander soup >> > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc> > > > Hi Janna.....way to go.....but Im so sorry about yoursleep..sleep is a huge problem since your > Immune System needs to repair and do all the sleep cycles esp deltasleep.......heres how I > corrected my sleep..which was a 10 year old problem...falling asleepand waking up all the > time....melatonin is one.......which also helps stress 1 mg if youcan tolerate 2 mg of melatonin at > night...3mg is my limit but I prefer 1 or 1.5 ...also helps withhot flashes, a sleep mask that covers the > eyes.... a progesterone cream ...from plants processedcorrectly.....and a magnetic pillow preferably > Nikkens.....and for your back maybe a $80 back magnet may be allyou need.....if you really like the > pad send an email broadcast to your friends /family and have themcontribute $100 or so each > towards it in your name and tell the manufacturer whats goingon..like a fundraiser for yourself called > into the manufacturer under your name........but keep up the greatwork...all sorts of Valerian , hops > based products some work better than others Chinese herbs work verywell too.. but its the natural > hormones that do the trick...are you taking any bio Identicalhormones.. keep up the great work i > havent made my soup yet my clippings are too small ..so imsearching nurseries to find a big > plant......ciao p.s. i like Aloe Vera gel too mint flavored ifpossible to clean out the colon ...ciao Sandy> > - > > cr8iveart@b... > > oleander soup > > Friday, December 30, 2005 11:05 PM> > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc> > > > > > I haven't done any of the cleanses. I have been really hoping toget to feeling better and then, I > intend > > to do some cleanses. I have been troubled with insomnia, as wellas waking up after just a few > hours > > of sleep when I do just "fall alseep." Menopause and cancerreally wretched havoc with my sleep > > system. I am working with a naturopath to get that undercontrol. I have also had a lot of back > trouble > > lately. I have been looking at the far infrared mat. I tried oneand had the most relief from pain that I > > have ever had in my life, and it lasted the rest of that day.Imagine having one and being able to > get > > that relief every day! It is, however, one of those big ticketitems. I am thinking that if I get it, I could > > offer it to people for a small fee to make up the cost of theproduct. But, as to the cleanses, when I > get > > my sleep underbetter control, I plan on doing a cleanse. Thanksfor the thoughts, Janna> > > > > > Tony Isaacs >> > > 2005/12/30 Fri PM 07:20:03 EST> > > oleander soup > > > Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc> > > > > > Janna -> > > > > > From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola,resveratol, and ellagic acid. There > has > > also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin(turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am > > MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom.it is not called "The > Mushroom of > > God" for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer.> > > > > > My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanicalsupplement manufacturing > company > > in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplementshave been used successfully > for > > breast cancer by many people around the world, including a wellknown UK journalist who writes > for > > The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It ishis company that now makes two > > supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroomextract as well as extracts > from > > two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is usedspecifically for cancer and the other is the > one > > that is now being used with government blessings in South Africato reverse AIDS symptoms. > Potent > > stuff!> > > > > > It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle -congratulations on your high level of > > antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such asliver and colon cleanses? There is an > > excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barronthat cleanses the liver, gall > bladder, > > kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice ayear), a lot of heavy metals, > pesticides > > and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an openingfor future health problems.> > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart@b...> wrote: Tony,> > > I have read your list of the "good and bad" and have read thecancer tutor's web site. I have > > > cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - andmostly from the good list, I do > > > occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like atholiday times, but try to stay with the > > > "good" side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula,Barley Greens, "Acidgone" from > > > Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloevera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 > > > teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went tomy chiropractor, who is also a > > > nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan thatmeasures your levels of antioxidants. > > > Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy isabove 30,000 to 40,000. > > > Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were puttingsomething else with all of the > > > above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? Iknow that you are not a dr. It is > > > just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths,make that - none, that I am aware > > > of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I justwant to try to insure that it doesn't > > > turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendationsfor acid relfux. I still have a little > > > bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in theback of my thoart. I know that this > > > is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combinethe oleander with some other > > > product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid?One company advertises one that > > > also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Twenty five bucks an hour to trim oleander plants? Wow - finally a way to make money from oleander (smile)!And a house on Padre Island? Now I know where I'm going on vacation next year . . . . Let's see, I could babysit your house on Padre for you while you were away fighting the good fight at San Antonio or Houston, pitch my tent on the beach when you were at Padre, and all the while make $25 an hour trimming the oleander clippings and then re-sell the clippings for a nominal fee . . . what a deal!Tony Al Cizauskas <destress wrote: Edward lets talk tomorrow.........sandy xxxxxxx - Edward F. Hensley, J.D. oleander soup Saturday, December 31, 2005 11:30 PM Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc Amazing. Here I am at our house in Corpus Christi, Texas, on PadreIsland, the temp. is 72 degrees f., and my house is surrounded witholeander plants, all filled with fresh, new growth, begging to be cut,trimmed, and trashed, if only to keep their shape and not overhangonto our back deck. The main road to the subdivision, Padre IslandDrive, is one huge boulevard with an esplanade at least a mile longfilled with, you guessed it, beautiful, in need of a trim, oleanderplants. More than enough to trim, and make enough soup for an army ofsoup users. If the demand was there, I know I could inform any local tree trimmerhe could take the trimmings he trashes at least five times a year, andsell them to oleander soup makers. I've sent clippings before,placing them in a plastic shopping bag, and into a medium first classmailing box. They keep for at least a week without damage, even inhot weather. You can grow the plant by planting a defrocked clippingin protected mulch, indoors, where it will sprout in about a month. I don't have time to do this myself, but in winter, the tree trimmersare desperate for work and the oleander is abundant in this area. They could trim for free and justify the effort if they could sell theclippings. So, what's the reasonable price for a plastic shopping bagfilled with fresh clippings? This fills an 8 qt. pot and makes abouta quart of standard recipe, which is doubled when you add preservative. The mailing cost is about $10.00. Value? Price? Demand? It's allin the numbers. Here, the trimmers make about $25 an hour. Edoleander soup , <cr8iveart@b...> wrote:>> Sandy, > There is a nursery in Mobile,Alabama that has several oleanderplants. If they don't still have the > plants, Good Winds Landscape and Garden Center, 2238 Sunset Road,Germantown, TN 38138 - > 901-758-1185, has several still left. That is where I got mine. Theones that they have are about four > feet tall and in good shape. They are in a greenhouse being"wintered over." Just an idea, if others > don't pan out. Thanks for the suggestions for sleep. The melatonindoesn't seem to work for me. But > some of the plant botanicals - Valerian, etc seem to be helping. Ihave put a call out to friends about > the mat - not sharing the expense, but using it for a small fee, ifI get it, for those who have problems > that they want to address. I may try the progesterone cream, if Ican find a plant based one. Thanks, > Janna> > > > "Al Cizauskas" <destress@t...>> > 2005/12/31 Sat AM 01:50:13 EST> > <oleander soup >> > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc> > > > Hi Janna.....way to go.....but Im so sorry about yoursleep..sleep is a huge problem since your > Immune System needs to repair and do all the sleep cycles esp deltasleep.......heres how I > corrected my sleep..which was a 10 year old problem...falling asleepand waking up all the > time....melatonin is one.......which also helps stress 1 mg if youcan tolerate 2 mg of melatonin at > night...3mg is my limit but I prefer 1 or 1.5 ...also helps withhot flashes, a sleep mask that covers the > eyes.... a progesterone cream ...from plants processedcorrectly.....and a magnetic pillow preferably > Nikkens.....and for your back maybe a $80 back magnet may be allyou need.....if you really like the > pad send an email broadcast to your friends /family and have themcontribute $100 or so each > towards it in your name and tell the manufacturer whats goingon..like a fundraiser for yourself called > into the manufacturer under your name........but keep up the greatwork...all sorts of Valerian , hops > based products some work better than others Chinese herbs work verywell too.. but its the natural > hormones that do the trick...are you taking any bio Identicalhormones.. keep up the great work i > havent made my soup yet my clippings are too small ..so imsearching nurseries to find a big > plant......ciao p.s. i like Aloe Vera gel too mint flavored ifpossible to clean out the colon ...ciao Sandy> > - > > cr8iveart@b... > > oleander soup > > Friday, December 30, 2005 11:05 PM> > Re: Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc> > > > > > I haven't done any of the cleanses. I have been really hoping toget to feeling better and then, I > intend > > to do some cleanses. I have been troubled with insomnia, as wellas waking up after just a few > hours > > of sleep when I do just "fall alseep." Menopause and cancerreally wretched havoc with my sleep > > system. I am working with a naturopath to get that undercontrol. I have also had a lot of back > trouble > > lately. I have been looking at the far infrared mat. I tried oneand had the most relief from pain that I > > have ever had in my life, and it lasted the rest of that day.Imagine having one and being able to > get > > that relief every day! It is, however, one of those big ticketitems. I am thinking that if I get it, I could > > offer it to people for a small fee to make up the cost of theproduct. But, as to the cleanses, when I > get > > my sleep underbetter control, I plan on doing a cleanse. Thanksfor the thoughts, Janna> > > > > > Tony Isaacs >> > > 2005/12/30 Fri PM 07:20:03 EST> > > oleander soup > > > Re: re:Oleander Treatment, etc> > > > > > Janna -> > > > > > From what I have read, I am very impressed with graviola,resveratol, and ellagic acid. There > has > > also been quite a bit of indications of late that Curcumin(turmeric) is very good for cancer. I am > > MOST impressed with the Agaricus Blazei Murrill (ABM) Mushroom.it is not called "The > Mushroom of > > God" for nothing! and it has been very successful in breast cancer.> > > > > > My good friend George Otto, PhD, runs a rainforest botanicalsupplement manufacturing > company > > in Brazil by the name of Takesun do Brasil. His ABM supplementshave been used successfully > for > > breast cancer by many people around the world, including a wellknown UK journalist who writes > for > > The Guardian and also the wife of a noted British author. It ishis company that now makes two > > supplements that are 80% oleander and also contain ABM mushroomextract as well as extracts > from > > two other rainforest botanicals. One of those is usedspecifically for cancer and the other is the > one > > that is now being used with government blessings in South Africato reverse AIDS symptoms. > Potent > > stuff!> > > > > > It sounds to me like you live a very healthy lifestyle -congratulations on your high level of > > antioxidant! Do you do anything to detox your body such asliver and colon cleanses? There is an > > excellent plan in my book from noted health authority Jon Barronthat cleanses the liver, gall > bladder, > > kidneys and blood. Without periodic cleanses (once or twice ayear), a lot of heavy metals, > pesticides > > and other toxins can remain in the body and provide an openingfor future health problems.> > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > dreamweavermphs <cr8iveart@b...> wrote: Tony,> > > I have read your list of the "good and bad" and have read thecancer tutor's web site. I have > > > cleaned my diet, drink clean water, mostly organic - andmostly from the good list, I do > > > occasionally eat whatever my family is eating, like atholiday times, but try to stay with the > > > "good" side. Take vitamins, betacarotene, Rath formula,Barley Greens, "Acidgone" from > > > Nutrigenesis (alfala, marshmallow root, milk thistle, Aloevera, etc, oleander soup - 1/4 > > > teaspoon 3xs ( just did the 1/2 one dose one time). I went tomy chiropractor, who is also a > > > nutrionist. They have a machine to do a laser scan thatmeasures your levels of antioxidants. > > > Most people who are elderly measure around 10,000, healthy isabove 30,000 to 40,000. > > > Mine measured 58,000, which is great. If you were puttingsomething else with all of the > > > above, would you suggest ed raspberries ellasgistic acid? Iknow that you are not a dr. It is > > > just that there are not a lot of naturopaths, homeopaths,make that - none, that I am aware > > > of in Memphis, TN. I know that I have acid reflux, I justwant to try to insure that it doesn't > > > turn into anything. I have followed all the recommendationsfor acid relfux. I still have a little > > > bit of heartburn but have eliminated that sore taste in theback of my thoart. I know that this > > > is not a forum for acid reflux - but if you were to combinethe oleander with some other > > > product to insure success, would it be the Ellagistic Acid?One company advertises one that > > > also contains Graviola and restveratol. Thanks, Janna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Tony, sound easy, but by trimmers, I refer palm trimmers, who go up ladders 45 feet vertical to trim palms all over the island. They have a truck and trailer to haul the trash. They trim with a box cutter slicing the base of the branches in neat cuts that leave a clean result. For the house, we have about ten relatives there off and on all year, but usually vacant two weekends per month. I see huge piles of oleander clippings laying on curbs twice a year in our neighborhood. I've learned that the State of Texas Highway department plants oleander on the highways from Austin south. They don't freeze well. The city of Galveston is the oleander capitol of the US. So much oleander. Ed oleander soup , Tony Isaacs > wrote: > > Twenty five bucks an hour to trim oleander plants? Wow - finally a way to make money from oleander (smile)! > > And a house on Padre Island? Now I know where I'm going on vacation next year . . . . > > Let's see, I could babysit your house on Padre for you while you were away fighting the good fight at San Antonio or Houston, pitch my tent on the beach when you were at Padre, and all the while make $25 an hour trimming the oleander clippings and then re-sell the clippings for a nominal fee . . . what a deal! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 The plants are literally all over Dallas too - and they seem to survive quite well, given the huge size of some of them, but then again, we really haven't had many bad freezes in awhile. And, with Dubya's take on the science of global warming, heck, the freeze zone may be moving a bit north anyway. Like Montana . . .Okay, no beach bum life crashing at your Galveston place and cutting a few oleander clippings for spare change. But I know now where the annual Oleander Soup Convention is going to be held T"Edward F. Hensley, J.D." <ed4636 wrote: Tony, sound easy, but by trimmers, I refer palm trimmers, who go up ladders 45 feet vertical to trim palms all over the island. They have a truck and trailer to haul the trash. They trim with a box cutter slicing the base of the branches in neat cuts that leave a clean result. For the house, we have about ten relatives there off and on all year, but usually vacant two weekends per month. I see huge piles of oleander clippings laying on curbs twice a year in our neighborhood. I've learned that the State of Texas Highway department plants oleander on the highways from Austin south. They don't freeze well. The city of Galveston is the oleander capitol of the US. So much oleander. Ed oleander soup , Tony Isaacs > wrote: > > Twenty five bucks an hour to trim oleander plants? Wow - finally a way to make money from oleander (smile)! > > And a house on Padre Island? Now I know where I'm going on vacation next year . . . . > > Let's see, I could babysit your house on Padre for you while you were away fighting the good fight at San Antonio or Houston, pitch my tent on the beach when you were at Padre, and all the while make $25 an hour trimming the oleander clippings and then re-sell the clippings for a nominal fee . . . what a deal! > > Tony > > Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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