Best Candida killer?

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Have you looked into kefir?

 

Tom

 

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Friday, January 14, 2005 11:21 AM

Best Candida killer?

Okay, ready to start attacking the Candida full-bore, but just wondering the best way to do it. As far as yeast killers go, I have heard of these:Oil of oreganoNeemGrapefruit seed extractOlive leaf extractGarlicWhich one is best? I am currently taking Threelac. Do I need to take anything additionally? Antioxidants? More probiotics than just the Threelac?And what's the protocol? Threelac/probiotics after meals, yeast killer between meals?Really ready to rid myself of this crap! Open to suggestions! :-)Thanks!_jason__________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _ «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.**COPYRIGHT NOTICE**In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107,any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

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David,

 

I would like to try and give you an alternative view of looking at

intestinal flora.

 

The " attack " substances that you have listed are good but they are

usually not enough to kill off all of the offending intruders. It

would require you to take a huge amount of them to do so (it probably

would also almost kill the host) and if only a few escaped and your body

didn't somehow " kill them " it would in all likelyhood grow back over

time if there were not in place the other naturally occuring organisms to keep

them in check. This is the way that allopathic medicine treats this disease but

you are substituting a naturally occuring somewhat toxic substance for some

horribly toxic synthetic drug.

 

Try to think in terms of body ecology similar to other ecologies.

Lakes, fishtanks, forests, rainforests, oceans, etc. If a lake or ocean were

infected with some invading organism. One way to attack the problem would be to

put some poison into the lake or ocean to try and kill off all of bad guys.

Anotherwould be to introduce huge amounts of some good guy type organisms to

naturally push out most of the bad guys or keep the naturally

remaining ones in check.

 

So using the lake or ocean anology would it be feasable to put in poisons three

times a day and at slightly different times to introduce small amounts

of the good organisms. Although you are using them to get to the same

outcome, their actions are working at cross purposes. One is to kill

and one to is to introduce life. The kill option kills some of all

organisms not just the bad ones.

 

If I were to use the kill option on say a fishtank I would use it to

take the bad organisms down to as low a level as possible without

killing the fish or all of the other naturally occuring organisms and

when I felt I couldn't go lower without jeopardizing the health of the

ecology of the tank, I would then introduce large amounts of some good

organisms making sure that they were " strong enough " to displace the

bad ones. This would get the bad organisms down to a smaller and hopefully more

managble level before the second phase of huge amounts of good guys to displace

the bad ones.

 

Almost all probiotic pills are of such small doses and limited by a

few organisms that they are not sufficiently strong enough to displace

the bad guys to any reasonable extent. The only solution that I have

found to deliver enough of the good guys is to use food to do so. Take

in large amounts of " kefir " , kombucha tea, real vinegar, and other

foods made with good live organisms, but especially kefir. It has

hundreds of live organisms in huge quatities. It is easy to make. Just

plop the grain in some milk is all that it takes. There are links on

our links page to kefir sites and groups. If you go to them, tell Dom

that I said " hi " .

 

So, in essence I would recommend that you try and lower the overall

internal organisms over a short period of time with whatever you want

to use and when you reach what you believe is about the best that you

are going to achieve without making yourself sick and then start

taking in huge amounts of kefir and smaller amounts of other naturally

occuring organisms. Keep taking in huge amounts of kefir over a fairly

long time or until you think that you have achieved a good beachhead

or greater of the good guys in kefir and then to eat kefir as a

maintainance measure from now on. Kefir is much more proboitic ( on a magnitude

of 20 to 50 times more than even good homemade yougurt.

 

just my 2 cents,

 

Frank

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " -<(:: jason :>- "

<ombass@m...> wrote:

>

> Okay, ready to start attacking the Candida full-bore, but just

wondering the

> best way to do it. As far as yeast killers go, I have heard of these:

>

> Oil of oregano

> Neem

> Grapefruit seed extract

> Olive leaf extract

> Garlic

>

> Which one is best? I am currently taking Threelac. Do I need to take

> anything additionally? Antioxidants? More probiotics than just the

Threelac?

>

> And what's the protocol? Threelac/probiotics after meals, yeast killer

> between meals?

>

> Really ready to rid myself of this crap! Open to suggestions! :-)

>

> Thanks!

>

> _jason_

> _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

>

>

>

>

>

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Jason wrote;

Okay, ready to start attacking the Candida full-bore, but just wondering the

best way to do it. As far as yeast killers go, I have heard of these:

 

Oil of oregano

Neem

Grapefruit seed extract

Olive leaf extract

Garlic

 

Which one is best? I am currently taking Threelac. Do I need to take

anything additionally? Antioxidants? More probiotics than just the Threelac?

 

And what's the protocol? Threelac/probiotics after meals, yeast killer

between meals?

 

Really ready to rid myself of this crap! Open to suggestions! :-)

 

 

(snip)

 

 

Three Lac again works for some and not for others. I have to take three packets

a day just to keep it under control. Three Lac does not contain any acidophilus

or bifido bacteria so I think its worth taking those as well. Getting the

immune system right is important to finally keep candida under control.

 

 

Have you had a look at your mercury load?. According to many researchers and

eminent functional medicine doctors candida is associated with mercury in the

body.

Getting rid of chemicals is important for immune function. Watch what you use in

your home and what you put on your skin. Its more permeable than the gut! Use

environmentally friendly products and natural personal care products.

Its hard work getting and staying well!

Good luck

Sandy