Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Let's save this e-mail for review next June when the draft is allegedly going to go into effect. Disbelief is how they put things through that they know the public would abhor. I hope you are right that there is not way they will start a mandatory draft to send our young people to IRaq to secure that oil rich nation for imperialist Bush/America. But then again the war was started based on lies that they would find weapons of mass destruction and in retaliation against Afgananstan and Saudi Arabia for 9/11 when Iraq wasn't involved in that atrocity that Bush failed in his duty to protect our borders. Do you feel safer and freer with Homeland Security and the Patriot Act and Bush's agenda to evaluate everyone for Mental Health as a precursor to drugging more Americans with psychotrphic medications rendering them more compliant and cooperative with any government agenda? Yes, I hope you are right but I fear you are not. I believe that within a year there will be a mandatory draft and the reason it will be implemented is because there will not be enough opposition from people who don't believe it could happen during the formative stages. But then again, it's probably going to happen no matter what the peasants want, so perhaps it is better not to put any energy into defeating it. Sandra Lance --- Original Message ----- " Chris StClair " <cstclr Sunday, October 03, 2004 11:49 PM Re: A Bill to re-instate the Draft] > > Are you serious? The draft bill was pushed by some > democrats to make the point that people don't want a > draft. There is no chance in hell of that bill moving > in congress. > > Try focusing your energies on a relevant topic. > > > --- onthemend1 <onthemend1 wrote: > > > > > Best website I've seen on this " draft " subject is > > found at: http://www.draftedintoslavery.com/ > > ///////////////////////// > > --- Elaine <121 wrote: > > > > > Wm. N. Christensen wrote: > > > > > > > We appreciate this information from Fred Smart > > on > > > this Bill to > > > > reinstate the Draft on a more comprehensive > > basis. > > > > > > > > > > > United States Military Personnel are serving in > > > dozens of countries > > > > around the world. >From 1990 to 2000 our > > military > > > served in over 55 > > > > 'Operations Other Than War', mostly on United > > > Nations errands. We > > > > provide the 'lions share' of the personnel and a > > > great portion of the > > > > money to do the United Nations work. If the > > > tasks are important to > > > > the UN as a whole, why aren't more member > > nations > > > sacrificing their > > > > blood and treasure? If our military wasn't > > tied > > > down in dozens UN > > > > 'peacekeeping missions', we would have plenty of > > > military personnel to > > > > close our borders and perform the appropriate > > > military functions for > > > > the United States. Let's get out of an > > > organization that won't > > > > support us and costs us the blood of our youth > > and > > > countless billions > > > > of dollars. > > > > > > > > Congress has the power to end U.S. membership in > > > the UN. But most > > > > Representatives and Senators will not oppose > > U.S. > > > membership in the UN > > > > unless they are pressured to do so by a > > sufficient > > > number of informed > > > > Americans in their districts and states. > > > > > > > > Follow the links below to send Congress a > > > petition, or preferably four > > > > petitions, to get US out of the UN. If you > > sent > > > one last week, send > > > > another this week. These are citizens petitions > > > and are viewed as an > > > > indication of their constituents feelings on the > > > matter, so send them > > > > often! Send all of them for maximum effect. > > If > > > you only have time > > > > to send one, send the Birch Society Petition, it > > > will be sent to both > > > > of your Senators and your Congressman. > > > > > > > > A recent study shows that over 50% of Americans > > > polled are more than > > > > dissatisfied with the United Nations. We are > > > making progress on > > > > freeing our nation from this entangling > > alliance, > > > so let's keep up the > > > > pressure on our 'Representatives'. With God's > > > help, we shall prevail! > > > > > > > > Will Christensen > > > > National Vice Chair > > > > Independent American Party > > > > http://www.usiap.org > > > > > > > > Be a pipeline not a bucket - please pass this > > > along. > > > > > > > > If you feel you have received this in error or > > > would like to be > > > > removed from our mailing list, please reply with > > > the word " REMOVE " in > > > > the subject line. > > > > > > > > A large or small petition to your Representative > > > and two Senators > > > > sponsored by The John Birch Society. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.getusout.org/resources/un-petition.pdf > > > > > > > > > > http://www.getusout.org/resources/minipetition.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A petition to the President and Congress > > sponsored > > > by Petitions On Line. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/usout/petition.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A petition to the President, the Speaker of the > > > House, and the Senate > > > > Majority Leader sponsored by The Federalist. > > > > > > > > http://patriotpetitions.us/TerminateUN/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A petition to the Speaker of the House sponsored > > > by the American > > > > Policy Center. > > > > > > > > http://www.americanpolicy.org/petition-un1.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mandatory draft for males and females (ages > > 18-26) > > > starting June 15, > > > > 2005, is something that everyone should know > > > about. This literally > > > > effects everyone since we all have or know > > > children that will have to > > > > go if this bill passes. There is pending > > > legislation in the House and > > > > Senate (companion bills: S 89 and HR 163) which > > > will time the > > > > program's initiation so the draft can begin as > > > early as spring 2005, > > > > just after the 2004 presidential election. The > > > administration is > > > > quietly trying to get these bills passed now, > > > while the public's > > > > attention is on the elections, so our action on > > > this is needed > > > > immediately. Details and links follow. This > > plan, > > > among other things, > > > > eliminates higher education as a shelter and > > > includes women in the > > > > draft. Also, crossing into Canada has already > > been > > > made very difficult. > > > > > > > > Actions: > > > > > > > > Please send this on to all the parents and > > > teachers you know, and all > > > > the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. > > . > > > > . > > > > And let your children know - - it's their > > future, > > > and they can be a > > > > powerful voice for change! > > > > > > > > This legislation is called HR 163 and can be > > found > > > in detail at this > > > > website: > > > > > > > > http://thomas.loc.gov/ Just enter in " HR 163 " > > and > > > click search and > > > > will bring up the bill for you to read. It is > > less > > > than two pages long. > > > > > > > > If this bill passes, it will include all men and > > > ALL WOMEN from ages > > > > 18 - 26 in a draft for military action. In > > > addition, college will no > > > > longer be an option for avoiding the draft and > > > they will be signing an > > > > agreement with Canada which will no longer > > permit > > > anyone attempting to > > > > dodge the draft to stay within it's borders. > > This > > > bill also includes > > > > the extension of military service for all those > > > that are currently > > > > active. If you go to the select service web site > > > and read their 2004 > > > > FYI Goals you will see that the reasoning for > > this > > > is to increase the > > > > size of the military in case of terrorism. This > > is > > > a critical piece of > > > > legislation, this will effect our > > undergraduates, > > > our children and our > > > > grandchildren. Please take the time to write > > your > > > congressman and let > > > > them know how you feel about this legislation. > > > www.house.gov > > > > www.senate.gov Please also write to your > > > representatives and ask them > > > > why they aren't telling their constituents about > > > these bills and write > > > > to newspapers and other media outlets to ask > > them > > > why they're not > > > > covering this important story. > > > > > > > > The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 > > > selective service > > > > system budget to prepare for a military draft > > that > > > could start as > > > > early as June 15, 2005. Selective service must > > > report to Bush on March > > > > 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant > > > for decades, is ready > > > > for activation. Please see > > > www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view > > > > the Selective Service System annual performance > > > plan, > > === message truncated === > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 name=A Bill to > > re-instate the Draft > > > " Wm. N. Christensen " <WNC12 > > > A Bill to re-instate the Draft > > > Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:56:45 -0600 > > > > > > We appreciate this information from Fred Smart on > > > this Bill to reinstate the Draft on a more > > > comprehensive basis. > > > > > > United States Military Personnel are serving in > > > dozens of countries around the world. From 1990 > > to > > > 2000 our military served in over 55 'Operations > > > Other Than War', mostly on United Nations errands. > > > > > We provide the 'lions share' of the personnel and > > a > > > great portion of the money to do the United > > Nations > > > work. If the tasks are important to the UN as a > > > whole, why aren't more member nations sacrificing > > > their blood and treasure? If our military wasn't > > > tied down in dozens UN 'peacekeeping missions', we > > > would have plenty of military personnel to close > > our > > > borders and perform the appropriate military > > > functions for the United States. Let's get out > > of > > > an organization that won't support us and costs us > > > the blood of our youth and countless billions of > > > dollars. > > > > > > Congress has the power to end U.S. membership in > > the > > > UN. But most Representatives and Senators will not > > > oppose U.S. membership in the UN unless they are > > > pressured to do so by a sufficient number of > > > informed Americans in their districts and states. > > > > > > Follow the links below to send Congress a > > petition, > > > or preferably four petitions, to get US out of the > > > UN. If you sent one last week, send another this > > > week. These are citizens petitions and are viewed > > > as an indication of their constituents feelings on > > > the matter, so send them often! Send all of them > > > for maximum effect. If you only have time to > > send > > > one, send the Birch Society Petition, it will be > > > sent to both of your Senators and your > > Congressman. > > > > > > A recent study shows that over 50% of Americans > > > polled are more than dissatisfied with the United > > > Nations. We are making progress on freeing our > > > nation from this entangling alliance, so let's > > keep > > > up the pressure on our 'Representatives'. With > > > God's help, we shall prevail! > > > > > > Will Christensen > > > National Vice Chair > > > Independent American Party > > > http://www.usiap.org<about:blank> > > > > > > Be a pipeline not a bucket - please pass this > > along. > > > > > > If you feel you have received this in error or > > would > > > like to be removed from our mailing list, please > > > reply with the word " REMOVE " in the subject line. > > > > > > A large or small petition to your Representative > > and > > > two Senators sponsored by The John Birch Society. > > > > > > > > > http://www.getusout.org/resources/un-petition.pdf<about:blank> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.getusout.org/resources/minipetition.pdf<about:blank> > > > > > > > > > > > > A petition to the President and Congress sponsored > > > by Petitions On Line. > > > > > > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/usout/petition.html<about:blank> > > > > > > > > > > > > A petition to the President, the Speaker of the > > > House, and the Senate Majority Leader sponsored by > > > The Federalist. > > > > > > > > http://patriotpetitions.us/TerminateUN/<about:blank> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A petition to the Speaker of the House sponsored > > by > > > the American Policy Center. > > > > > > > > > http://www.americanpolicy.org/petition-un1.htm<about:blank> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mandatory draft for males and females (ages 18-26) > > > starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone > > > should know about. This literally effects everyone > > > since we all have or know children that will have > > to > > > go if this bill passes. There is pending > > legislation > > > in the House and Senate (companion bills: S 89 and > > > HR 163) which will time the program's initiation > > so > > > the draft can begin as early as spring 2005, just > > > after the 2004 presidential election. The > > > administration is quietly trying to get these > > bills > > > passed now, while the public's attention is on the > > > elections, so our action on this is needed > > > immediately. Details and links follow. This plan, > > > among other things, eliminates higher education as > > a > > > shelter and includes women in the draft. Also, > > > crossing into Canada has already been made very > > > difficult. > > > > > > Actions: > > > > > > Please send this on to all the parents and > > teachers > > > you know, and all the aunts and uncles, > > > grandparents, godparents. . > > > > > > And let your children know - - it's their future, > > > and they can be a powerful voice for change! > > > > > > This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found > > > in detail at this website: > > > > > > http://thomas.loc.gov/<about:blank> Just enter in > > > " HR 163 " and click search and will bring up the > > bill > > > for you to read. It is less than two pages long. > > > > > > If this bill passes, it will include all men and > > ALL > > > WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military > > > action. In addition, college will no longer be an > > > option for avoiding the draft and they will be > > > signing an agreement with Canada which will no > > > longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft > > > to stay within it's borders. This bill also > > includes > > > the extension of military service for all those > > that > > > are currently active. If you go to the select > > > service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you > > > will see that the reasoning for this is to > > increase > > > the size of the military in case of terrorism. > > This > > > is a critical piece of legislation, this will > > effect > > > our undergraduates, our children and our > > > grandchildren. Please take the time to write your > > > congressman and let them know how you feel about > > > this legislation. www.house.gov<about:blank> > > > www.senate.gov<about:blank> Please also write to > > > your representatives and ask them why they aren't > > > telling their constituents about these bills and > > > write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask > > > them why they're not covering this important > > story. > > > > > > The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 > > > selective service system budget to prepare for a > > > military draft that could start as early as June > > 15, > > > 2005. Selective service must report to Bush on > > March > > > 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant > > for > > > decades, is ready for activation. Please see > > > www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html<about:blank> to > > > view the Selective Service System annual > > performance > > > plan, fiscal year 2004. The Pentagon has quietly > > > begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft > > > board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots > > > nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election > > > year topic, military experts and influential > > members > > > of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's > > > prediction of a " long, hard slog " in Iraq and > > > Afghanistan (and permanent state of war on > > > terrorism) proves accurate, the U.S. may have no > > > choice but to draft. > > > > > > > > > www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp<about:blank> > > > entitled the Universal National service Act of > > 2003, > > > " to provide for the common defense by requiring > > that > > > all young persons (age 18-26) in the United > > States, > > > including women, perform a period of military > > > service or a period of civilian service in > > > furtherance of the national defense and homeland > > > security, and for other purposes. " These active > > > bills currently sit in the committee on armed > > > services. Dodging the draft will be more difficult > > > than those from the Vietnam era. College and > > Canada > > > will not be options. In December, 2001, Canada and > > > the U.S. signed a " smart border declaration, " > > which > > > could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. > > > Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, > > John > > > Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom > > > Ridge, the declaration involves a 30 point plan > > > which implements, among other things, a > > > " pre-clearance agreement " of people entering and > > > departing each country. Reforms aimed at making > > the > > > draft more equitable along gender and class lines > > > also eliminates higher education as a shelter. > > > Underclassmen would only be able to postpone > > service > > > until the end of their current semester. Seniors > > > would have until the end of the academic year. > > > > > > What to do: Tell your friends, Contact your > > > legislators and ask them to oppose these bills > > > > > > Just type " congress " into the aol search engine > > and > > > input your zip code. A list of your reps will pop > > up > > > with a way to email them directly. We can't just > > sit > > > and > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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