Depression?

September 21, 2004

My son complaints of depression and no drive to live.

Is this depression or a-motivation type of residual

symptom or negative symptom of schiz.? He had

responded well to 23 capsules daily of Mega3 each

consisting of 180mg EPA and 120mg of DHA. But relapsed

due to stress of night travel 1 to 4AM and skipping

one dose.

Complaints and observations:

Depression, no drive to live; frequent sore throat and

runny nose.

Esnophils above normal range, but basophils are very

very low.

Possible explanations of these:

1. Wheat and/or milk allergy.

2. High histamine status confirmed by questionnaire

for this, but note that the basophil count is very

very low.

3. Hypothyroidism, but note that TSH, T3 and T4 are

normal;

4. Stressed adrenals confirmed by questionnaire;

5. Low endorphins;

6. Pyroluria;

7. Low dopamine;

8. Low tryptophan?

Treatments planned:

1. If wheat/milk allergy is suspected by you, then I

can ask my son to give them up or severely reduce them

(he is addicted to them).

2. Would you suspect high histamine status in spite of

very very low basophil count?

Or, would you rather suspect very low histamine status

and treat for the low status?

3. I will run a home test of taking body temperature

for thyroid function.

Also I will get free TSH, T3, T4 done.

4. For stressed adrenals, I will do the home test of

adrenal function.

5. For possibly low endorphins, I will start

L-Phenylalanine.

6. For possible pyroluria, I will continue to give him

B6 and Zinc.

7. For possibly low dopamine, I will give him tyrosine

together with other supplements..

8. For possibly low serotonin, I will give him

tryptophan together with juice, B3 and Inositol.

I want him out of his “depression” fast. So, I wish to

go all out. Once I get him back on track, I can start

cutting down.

I wait for your learned comments please. Thanks in

anticipation.

Ratan.

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September 21, 2004

My son complaints of depression and no drive to live.

Is this depression or a-motivation type of residual

symptom or negative symptom of schiz.? He had

responded well to 23 capsules daily of Mega3 each

consisting of 180mg EPA and 120mg of DHA. But relapsed

due to stress of night travel 1 to 4AM and skipping

one dose.

Complaints and observations:

Depression, no drive to live; frequent sore throat and

runny nose.

Esnophils above normal range, but basophils are very

very low.

Possible explanations of these:

1. Wheat and/or milk allergy.

2. High histamine status confirmed by questionnaire

for this, but note that the basophil count is very

very low.

3. Hypothyroidism, but note that TSH, T3 and T4 are

normal;

4. Stressed adrenals confirmed by questionnaire;

5. Low endorphins;

6. Pyroluria;

7. Low dopamine;

8. Low tryptophan?

Treatments planned:

1. If wheat/milk allergy is suspected by you, then I

can ask my son to give them up or severely reduce them

(he is addicted to them).

2. Would you suspect high histamine status in spite of

very very low basophil count?

Or, would you rather suspect very low histamine status

and treat for the low status?

3. I will run a home test of taking body temperature

for thyroid function.

Also I will get free TSH, T3, T4 done.

4. For stressed adrenals, I will do the home test of

adrenal function.

5. For possibly low endorphins, I will start

L-Phenylalanine.

6. For possible pyroluria, I will continue to give him

B6 and Zinc.

7. For possibly low dopamine, I will give him tyrosine

together with other supplements..

8. For possibly low serotonin, I will give him

tryptophan together with juice, B3 and Inositol.

I want him out of his “depression” fast. So, I wish to

go all out. Once I get him back on track, I can start

cutting down.

I wait for your learned comments please. Thanks in

anticipation.

Ratan.

September 21, 2004

Following Dr. Hoffer's methods, how about the niacinamide (b3), 1

gram with meals 3x daily, increasing to 3 grams if required? PLus the

other b vitamins and zinc.

Duncan Crow

September 22, 2004

Hi Ratan,

Where do you purchase the tryptophan?

Much love,

Pamela

psych doc <psych_58 wrote:

8. For possibly low serotonin, I will give him

tryptophan together with juice, B3 and Inositol.

I want him out of his “depression” fast. So, I wish to

go all out. Once I get him back on track, I can start

cutting down.

I wait for your learned comments please. Thanks in

anticipation.

Ratan.

September 22, 2004

Pamela, I buy it here in Jaipur, Rajasthan in India.

--- Pamela <southallp wrote:

> Hi Ratan,

>

> Where do you purchase the tryptophan?

>

> Much love,

> Pamela

>

> psych doc <psych_58 wrote:

> 8. For possibly low serotonin, I will give him

> tryptophan together with juice, B3 and Inositol.

> I want him out of his “depression” fast. So, I wish

> to

> go all out. Once I get him back on track, I can

> start

> cutting down.

>

> I wait for your learned comments please. Thanks in

> anticipation.

> Ratan.

>

September 22, 2004

Hello Ratan ... How old is your son + is he working + is he married/single +

is he overweight +

does he drink alcohol + has he any physical illness + does he take any

medication + how long has he been depressed + is he depressed about anything

in particular + what gives him joy + is he a vegetarian ?