Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Mangosteen and Cancer pub. By sound concepts. MANGOSTEEN and CANCER J. Frederic Templeman, MD: Cancer is a blanket term covering a variety of disorders with the common element of abnormal, uncontrolled cell growth that will not stop on its own. Under normal conditions, cell growth is strictly controlled with cell birth equaling cell death so that the total number of cells in the body remains relatively constant. At times, abnormal growth that is not cancerous can occur. We still call the abnormal tissue a " tumor " but it is benign and not malignant (cancerous). In this pamphlet, I will be dealing only with cancer. The mechanism which stimulates cells to divide and multiply (when repair or replacement work is needed in the body) and then turns them off afterwards is under the control of genes contained in the chromosomes of the nucleus. These genes, which are composed of DNA, can be thought of as the policemen of cell society. The nucleus of the cell would be the control center of all regulatory activity. In the nucleus, the DNA, like the hard drive of a computer, contains all the programming for the body. When it is damaged by free radicals, for example, it can become corrupted or scarred. This damage is called mutation and it is the critical event that leads to cancer. A mutation can be seen as the failure of a gene to perform its duty. (Watch for the change here). Using the policeman comparison again, mutation becomes possible only if the policeman (gene) is corrupted by criminal elements and becomes a criminal himself or if he is asleep on the job and does nothing while damaging changes occur around him. Continuing the analogy, disease, viruses, environmental pollutants, dangerous foods etc. can be seen as criminal elements whose purpose is to disrupt the society of cells in our body and then profit from the chaos and damage that results. These criminal elements have agents working for them called free radicals. Free radicals charge around the body like madmen armed with automatic weapons which they fire all around them damaging healthy cells. They then steal electrons left unprotected by their attack. Their primary target is the DNA in the nucleus, the command center of the cell where they can inflict the greatest damage. A prominent free radical researcher Dr. Bruce Ames estimates that the DNA material in every one of the trillions of cells in our body receives about ten thousand hits from free radicals everyday! To prevent a breach of the body's defenses in the face of an attack of such magnitude requires the concerted efforts of all the agents of the immune system, which can be seen as the armed forces of the body, along with the collaboration of the policemen or the gene regulatory mechanism. When, despite the body's best efforts, a breach of our defenses occurs, a tumor forms. Like a city captured by enemy forces, the tumor becomes a stronghold that has multiple defense mechanisms with which it resists the continued attacks of the immune system. Within the stronghold, tumor viruses and deranged cells proliferate and are sent out like secret agents to corrupt (infect) healthy cells elsewhere. The cells of the tumor itself grow without the restrictions that govern normal cells and, almost immediately, become the fastest growing tissue in the body. As they grow rapidly, they steal food and energy needed by healthy cells. For this reason, cancer patients may appear starved and wasted (a medical term called cachexia). Tumors cause pain by becoming large enough to press on nerves or other pain sensitive structures. They can block ducts or intestines causing severe bodily dysfunction. They often completely take over whole organs, i.e. the liver or lungs, crowding out functioning cells and leading to organ death. Many cancers spread or metastasize to other areas of the body (remember the " secret agent " tumor viruses?), invading organs far from where they originally started. In contrast, most normal cells are anchored in place. Because of this mobility, a breast cancer cell can make its way to the brain, for example, and start another tumor. When metastases (distant sites of cancer invasion) are present, the enemy has already developed several strongholds throughout the body. If the cancer is unchecked, death is the inevitable outcome. Standard cancer intervention centers on the surgical excision of tumors and/or their destruction by radiation or chemotherapy. Immuno-stimulative therapies, although rare, also exist. Unfortunately, most of these interventions also damage normal healthy tissue as well. For example, chemotherapy indiscriminately destroys all rapidly-growing cells (sometimes by producing large numbers of free radicals). Therefore, while it targets cancer, it also destroys normal hair follicles, blood-producing bone marrow cells, the cells which line the intestine and, most importantly, the protective cells of the immune system which are essential to the prevention of infection. The challenge of therapy is to destroy the cancer before the chemotherapy or other treatment mortally weakens the patient. It is ironic to consider that the radiation and the free radical attacks of chemotherapy that are used to destroy the tumors may resemble the process that caused the cancer in the first place! While not commonly recognized by most doctors, food supplements can be valuable adjuncts o standard cancer therapy. No compelling evidence has emerged to prove that they interfere with chemotherapy although some researchers have examined this possibility. Additionally, unlike medicines which do nothing to prevent cancer, food supplements are extremely effective at regulating the cellular dysfunction that leads to mutation and cancer. The expression, " An ounce of medicine is worth a pound of cure " was never more applicable! Mangosteen's xanthones (phytoceuticals found only in this plant) have proven ability to destroy cancerous cells, and in fact, Garcinone E, an xanthone, was more effective than five commonly used chemotherapy agents for stomach, lung and liver cancer (vincristine, mitoxantrone, 5-flourouracil, cisplastin and methotrexate) in a recent well-designed in vitro study. In order to understand the several means by which mangosteen phytoceuticals protect us from cancer, I miust return for a mment to the most accepted theory of cancer development. Step one The genetic material (DNA) of the cell is damaged by free radicals from pollution, metabolic residues and infection or disease and MUTATION occurs. Step two The damaged cell divides and begins to disobey the rules of normal cell replication. Cancer now exist. Step three Carcinogens then promote the development and progression of the tumor often leading to metastases. Where do the mangosteen phytoceuticals intervene in this deadly process? Well, the answer is that in addition to being anti-tumor agents when cancer already exists, they prevent and arrest cancerous change at every step. It is quite impossible for us to avoid exposure to carcinogens and the free radical assaults that follow, but the antioxidants and other active phytoceuticals in the mangosteen can provide protection from critical cell damage. They do this by regulating gene expression and repairing free radical damage. In other words, they protect against cancer by helping both the policemen (genes) and the armed forces of the body (immune system) to become more efficient at preventing mutation in the first place. Additionally, the biologically active elements in the mangosteen impede the promotion and the progression of cancer when DNA damage does occur. Finally, they attack existing tumors. A word of caution. I've described previously in " Mangosteen, the X- factor " the differences between medicines and phytoceuticals. Medicines are like sledgehammers compared to the rubber mallets of the phytoceuticals. Do not stop any cancer treatment to replace it with mangosteen. The phytoceuticals will do their work even in the presence of other cancer therapies. Remember also that there is no conclusive evidence that the use of phytoceuticalsimpairs the efficacy of chemotherapy. Finally, while it is exciting to realize what the mangosteen phytoceuticals will do in the area of cancer treatment, it is far more important to prevent the development of cancer in the first place. Nothing does it better than mangosteen. Waiting until you develop cancer in order to learn how to deal with it just isn't smart. You may not fel the protective work it's doing in your body, but as the years go by the results you'll experience will be difficult to imagine. Unfortunately, many of your friends who chose not to supplement will not be around to celebrate your good health. http://health.healthandnutritionalsupplement/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 So are you saying that mangosteen cures cancer? You legally can’t say that, simply because mangosteen is a fruit and you are making medical claims. You are directing people to your chat list, which is fine – but everybody don’t get taken in by all the hype - be aware that this company is owned by Phillip Morris, and they are the people who used to also be into the noni juice. The xango product also has preservatives in it – potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, xanthan gum, and “natural flavor” is usually made with alcohol as a solvent (“natural flavor” covers such a wide range of ingredients, could also be animal-based) - which all those things considered, takes it off my list of edibles. I’m sure mangosteen is a very good antioxidant, but so is pomegranate juice and way more inexpensive and tastes better too. Here’s the ingredients of that xango mangosteen juice: Reconstituted garcinia mangostana juice from whole fruit, apple juice concentrate, pear juice concentrate, grape juice concentrate, pear puree, blueberry juice concentrate, raspberry juice concentrate, strawberry juice concentrate, cranberry juice concentrate, cherry juice concentrate, citric acid, natural flavor, pectin, xanthan gum, sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate. Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Organic, wholefood, supplements provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. http://www.bluegreensolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- gmduval [gmduval ] Mangosteen and Cancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Hi gmduval, I smell a scam. I don't think there is any proof, but please correct me if I'm wrong. To show how I arrived at my decision, let's shed some light on Mangosteen's purported effect on cancer and more with this newspaper article taken mainly from Dr. Ralph Moss' newsletter on the subject: _______ Mangosteen, a traditional remedy with a familiar pitch Body Electric The Mangosteen fruit rind has been used for its therapeutic properties for centuries. In South America, Mangosteen tea has been used as a de-worming medicine and digestive aid. In the Caribbean, a tea is used as a tonic for fatigue and depression, an extract from the fruit has been used to control fever in the Philippines, and in Asia, Mangosteen has long been used for eczema, skin disorders and conditions. Mangosteen rind contains powerful phytonutrient antioxidants called xanthones. Research has found 23 known xanthones, polysaccharides and other active chemicals, and marketers suggest that Mangosteen might even be a treatment for cancer. The pitch soon got into the radar of Dr. Ralph Moss, author of several books including Herbs against Cancer, and Cancer Therapy: The Independent Consumer's Guide. Well- known for his balanced views of cancer remedies, Dr. Moss was the first to blow the whistle on the Sloan Kettering Cancer Clinic, where he worked in the public relations department, for lying that their research in the cancer clinic showed Laetrile had no effect on cancer when in fact the opposite was tue. Certainly he is not biased against natural remedies. Says Dr. Moss in his May 14, 2004 newsletter (RalphMoss.com), " Marketers of the drink have widely claimed Xango has exceptional health-giving properties based on its very high antioxidant (ORAC) score. " But Dr. Ronald Prior of the US Department of Agriculture Research Service at Tufts University, Boston, Massachusetts observes, " a significant increase in antioxidants of 15 to 20 percent is possible by increasing consumption of fruits and vegetables, particularly those high in ORAC value. " However, says Moss, " ...one can only meaningfully increase one's daily intake by 3,000 to 5,000 ORAC units, and taking in 25,000 ORAC units at one time would be no more beneficial than taking in a fifth of that amount; the excess is simply excreted by the kidneys. " According to Dr. J. Frederic Templeman, a Georgia family practitioner who is widely quoted by XanGo marketers, if you take these antioxidants " you aren't going to probably have a heart attack as fast as someone who doesn't take them " and consuming them could therefore constitute " literally the difference between life and death. " , but says Moss, " Although I myself have written a book on the subject of the benefit of antioxidants (Antioxidants Against Cancer), I would say it is a tremendous stretch to claim that antioxidants are predictably going to save anyone's life. " During an interview with Dr. Templeman on the subject of Mangosteen's beneficial effect on cancer, the company interviewer and the doctor agree with each other that a single test tube experiment can be seen by the world as proof of the anticancer value of the juice. Dr. Templeman refers to 44 scientific publications on this topic, but in fact just four of these studies relate to cancer. By contrast, PubMed lists over 2,300 articles on the topic of vitamin C and cancer, 125 of which refer to clinical trials. There are a similar number of studies on vitamin E and cancer. There are 835 studies of melatonin and cancer, and a truly impressive 16,000 on polysaccharides and cancer, including 536 clinical trials and 277 randomized controlled trials (RCTs). Four test-tube experiments hardly constitute " mountains of evidence " referred to by Dr. Templeman. In fact, PubMed does not contain a single clinical trial of Mangosteen in the treatment of cancer or any other disease. To be quite clear, Moss points out that laboratory studies on cell lines or even animals do not qualify for the title 'clinical study' referred to by the marketers. These require human subjects. Moss continues, " In my opinion, what we have here is simply an overpriced fruit drink. Fruit drinks are often healthful beverages. But the only reason I can see that the promoters of Mangosteen can get away with charging [whatever] is that they are playing on patients' hopes and fears in a cynical way. Without the health claims, open or implied, the product could only be sold for at most $5 or $6 (which, for example, is the cost of antioxidant-rich pomegranate juice). The Mangosteen phenomenon is a reprise of the aloe vera, gingko biloba, and especially the noni juice story, complete with exaggerated claims for the health benefits of an exotic fruit. It should come as no surprise that both the President and the Chief Financial Officer of Xango once worked for Morinda (now called Tahitian Noni International). " Ahhh.. I thought the marketing sounded familiar! And just as I had found the flavoured Tahitian Noni Juice was much less potent than pure Noni juice, powdered leaves or especially an extract offered by other companies, while investigating for this article I found a product that contains about 7 times Xango's key active ingredient (beta mangostin) and 9 times the other xanthones per ounce. Comparisons are here: http://www.newvision.com/evplusmangosteen.asp Does the competition know something Xango doesn't? Could be; Essentials Plus also contains much higher b-vitamins and folate, higher antioxidants and selenium, more phytonutrients, plus aloe vera, a source of the well-studied polysaccharides mentioned above. Not bad for a fruit drink. It makes sense that if you want Mangosteen you'll be most interested in the best potency plus aloe... sign up with New Vision International and get Essentials Plus for wholesale price. regards, Duncan Crow http://profiles./duncancrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 You reply to the group with this. `Hey guys, I never said it cured cancer, the research shows what Dr. Templeman is seeing to be true in his practice. Although, I have been getting great success stories to my email from Cancer patients so I guess they can let share with you why they use a mangosteen extract. I bet I couldn't get them to not buy Xango no matter what I said Noni had in it...LOL. For a portion of the research www.pubmed.com (type in the word mangosteen) # 3,4,5,6,10,13,14,15 and I still can't figure out what 16 says...LOL I only have people join my group to look at the rest of the research I found so that I don't get carpal tunnel listing it all ) Ralph moss is just a human like the rest of us who have an opinion. He did not even find all the research I did so I guess that dosen't say much for his PhD. Most decide to try on fact and not someone elses opinion that didn't even do adequate research or try it to prove it wrong. Notice also he is promoting the products from his site...interesting. Noni juice tastes awful and I have not heard of that working like I have mangosteen. That is great if it did. But I am going with what worked on a gentleman who had great success with prostate cancer last week. To each his own ). Happy researching, Shanda(your URL here) In , Duncan Crow <duncancrow@s...> wrote: > Hi gmduval, > > I smell a scam. I don't think there is any proof, but please correct > me if I'm wrong. > > To show how I arrived at my decision, let's shed some light on > Mangosteen's purported effect on cancer and more with this newspaper > article taken mainly from Dr. Ralph Moss' newsletter on the subject: > > _______ > > Mangosteen, a traditional remedy with a familiar pitch > > Body Electric > > The Mangosteen fruit rind has been used for its therapeutic > properties for centuries. In South America, Mangosteen tea has been > used as a de-worming medicine and digestive aid. In the Caribbean, a > tea is used as a tonic for fatigue and depression, an extract from > the fruit has been used to control fever in the Philippines, and in > Asia, Mangosteen has long been used for eczema, skin disorders and > conditions. > > Mangosteen rind contains powerful phytonutrient antioxidants called > xanthones. Research has found 23 known xanthones, polysaccharides and > other active chemicals, and marketers suggest that Mangosteen might > even be a treatment for cancer. The pitch soon got into the radar of > Dr. Ralph Moss, author of several books including Herbs against > Cancer, and Cancer Therapy: The Independent Consumer's Guide. Well- > known for his balanced views of cancer remedies, Dr. Moss was the > first to blow the whistle on the Sloan Kettering Cancer Clinic, where > he worked in the public relations department, for lying that their > research in the cancer clinic showed Laetrile had no effect on cancer > when in fact the opposite was tue. Certainly he is not biased against > natural remedies. > > Says Dr. Moss in his May 14, 2004 newsletter (RalphMoss.com), > " Marketers of the drink have widely claimed Xango has exceptional > health-giving properties based on its very high antioxidant (ORAC) > score. " But Dr. Ronald Prior of the US Department of Agriculture > Research Service at Tufts University, Boston, Massachusetts observes, > " a significant increase in antioxidants of 15 to 20 percent is > possible by increasing consumption of fruits and vegetables, > particularly those high in ORAC value. " However, says Moss, " ...one > can only meaningfully increase one's daily intake by 3,000 to 5,000 > ORAC units, and taking in 25,000 ORAC units at one time would be no > more beneficial than taking in a fifth of that amount; the excess is > simply excreted by the kidneys. " According to Dr. J. Frederic > Templeman, a Georgia family practitioner who is widely quoted by > XanGo marketers, if you take these antioxidants " you aren't going to > probably have a heart attack as fast as someone who doesn't take > them " and consuming them could therefore constitute " literally the > difference between life and death. " , but says Moss, " Although I > myself have written a book on the subject of the benefit of > antioxidants (Antioxidants Against Cancer), I would say it is a > tremendous stretch to claim that antioxidants are predictably going > to save anyone's life. " > > During an interview with Dr. Templeman on the subject of Mangosteen's > beneficial effect on cancer, the company interviewer and the doctor > agree with each other that a single test tube experiment can be seen > by the world as proof of the anticancer value of the juice. Dr. > Templeman refers to 44 scientific publications on this topic, but in > fact just four of these studies relate to cancer. By contrast, PubMed > lists over 2,300 articles on the topic of vitamin C and cancer, 125 > of which refer to clinical trials. There are a similar number of > studies on vitamin E and cancer. There are 835 studies of melatonin > and cancer, and a truly impressive 16,000 on polysaccharides and > cancer, including 536 clinical trials and 277 randomized controlled > trials (RCTs). Four test-tube experiments hardly constitute > " mountains of evidence " referred to by Dr. Templeman. In fact, PubMed > does not contain a single clinical trial of Mangosteen in the > treatment of cancer or any other disease. To be quite clear, Moss > points out that laboratory studies on cell lines or even animals do > not qualify for the title 'clinical study' referred to by the > marketers. These require human subjects. > > Moss continues, " In my opinion, what we have here is simply an > overpriced fruit drink. Fruit drinks are often healthful beverages. > But the only reason I can see that the promoters of Mangosteen can > get away with charging [whatever] is that they are playing on > patients' hopes and fears in a cynical way. Without the health > claims, open or implied, the product could only be sold for at most > $5 or $6 (which, for example, is the cost of antioxidant-rich > pomegranate juice). The Mangosteen phenomenon is a reprise of the > aloe vera, gingko biloba, and especially the noni juice story, > complete with exaggerated claims for the health benefits of an exotic > fruit. It should come as no surprise that both the President and the > Chief Financial Officer of Xango once worked for Morinda (now called > Tahitian Noni International). " > > Ahhh.. I thought the marketing sounded familiar! And just as I had > found the flavoured Tahitian Noni Juice was much less potent than > pure Noni juice, powdered leaves or especially an extract offered by > other companies, while investigating for this article I found a > product that contains about 7 times Xango's key active ingredient > (beta mangostin) and 9 times the other xanthones per ounce. > Comparisons are here: > http://www.newvision.com/evplusmangosteen.asp > > Does the competition know something Xango doesn't? Could be; > Essentials Plus also contains much higher b-vitamins and folate, > higher antioxidants and selenium, more phytonutrients, plus aloe > vera, a source of the well-studied polysaccharides mentioned above. > Not bad for a fruit drink. > > It makes sense that if you want Mangosteen you'll be most interested > in the best potency plus aloe... sign up with New Vision > International and get Essentials Plus for wholesale price. > > regards, > > Duncan Crow > http://profiles./duncancrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 > For a portion of the research www.pubmed.com (type in > the word mangosteen) # 3,4,5,6,10,13,14,15 and I still can't figure > out what 16 says.. Try typing in a more specific search, like mangosteen cancer in the NLM search box here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search & DB=pubmed Just five in-vitro studies appear, four for human cancer cell lines and one for rat cancer. There weren't any in-vivo studies at all, not even in animals. Try a search on mangosteen cancer vivo. Like Dr. Moss says, in-vitro lab work is not a clinical study. Clinical studies use real people. Grasp at straws if you like. I'll word it another way for you... Once we get all those cancer cells into the beaker in order to kill them with mangosteen juice, why not just use salt instead? Or simply toss them in the garbage? I'm not sold on it yet, but if a person wants to try this latest juice because of slick advertising for the Xango brand, they might like to know that a mangosteen juice that has NINE TIMES Xango's potency, three times the antioxidants, plus minerals and aloe missing from Xango. This being New Vision International's Essentials Plus. Here again is the comparison: http://newvision.com Aloe helps. Try a search on aloe cancer vivo. Six hits. One human clinical study; there may be others. And we don't have to remove the cancer cells from the body to kill them We also have other ways to do in-vivo work with tools at hand that are much less expensive. For a better understanding of the electrical properties of cancer cells and how to better deal with this disorder, have a look here: http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html regards, Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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