Anti-Depressants

October 22, 2003

Buffy,

VERY GOOD!!! I'll tell you another story.. My parents both have high blood pressure ... my grandparents had it.... so... "world view" it is hereditary... so will I... WRONG

I HAVE TOLD MYSELF I WILL NOT HAVE IT NOW OR EVER... NO WAY, NO HOW! and I DON"T.... I REFUSE to have it. And by the way, I'm 50. So yes the mind is a very powerful thing.. if you believe it , then it will be.

Suzibuffy <racham wrote:

Hi Rob,

Welcome back! =o) I don't know if you've been following the "power of words" thread, but trying to get off a bunch of meds is what lead up to that study for me. After allowing myself to be brainwashed by various psycho professionals, I truly believed that I'd need drugs for the rest of my life or I'd end up doing myself in during a suicidal depression. Fear kept me popping pills when I desperately wanted to flush them. During a particularly bad depression I had gotten up to 13 pills/day-- 8 different meds- (please notice, at this point I'm supposedly medicated to prevent such drastic depressions) I demanded that they back down the dosages or I'd do it myself. We got it down to 4 different meds & I started to notice that the swings (bi- polar) were no more manageable with the meds than without. Well shoot! I can swing that badly

w/out their help & for free! I weaned myself off the meds against doctors orders & started searching, studying and most importantly believing that nutrition & herbal remedies would make a difference.

I spend a lot of time being scared & incredibly unsure of what I'm doing-- but I'm drug free & I can think for myself-- therefore I can also create my own healing process-- not submit to someone else's best guess. As I mentioned to a friend of mine recently; The wonderful thing about any type of depression is that no one knows where it comes from, what causes it or how to cure it-- but they are quite certain you have it!

I have to learn to rethink all the psychobabble that taught me I'm useless without their ultimate wisdom. I've had to struggle against believing I'm trapped to experience depression over & over & over. It's even more difficult to fight the urge to embrace the mania (it's such a major rush). If you believe you're sick--you're gonna be sick & stay that way until something snaps & you decide to do something about it. If your girlfriend believes she will have these anxiety attacks forever-- she will. I know it sounds really simple, I'm not saying what she's experiencing isn't real-- not by a long shot- trust me... I do know how she feels. But I am saying the power of our thoughts & words can have just as much a healing effect as it does destructive. A change in thinking, nutrition, herbal remedies... the possibilities for healing are endless. Maybe

if she's resistant to herbal remedies, you can try studying the power of words with her. WARNING: It may make her madder than a wet hen! I was insulted the first time someone told me I was 'sick' b/c I allowed it. Still if she's ready for change she may be ready to hear it. Just my two cents worth.

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April 23, 2004

Depressing News on DepressionPublished: April 23, 2004 NYTimes

ntidepressant drugs are being widely administered to children and adolescents despite increasing concern that the benefits have been oversold and some potentially dangerous side effects minimized. The jury is still out on whether the modest benefits of some of these drugs outweigh the small risks they impose. But the escalating debate makes us wonder, uneasily, whether doctors have been dispensing the pills far too cavalierly despite a dearth of evidence to support their value.

The issue that has dominated recent discussion is whether the most commonly prescribed antidepressants increase the risk of suicide in children and adolescents. British health authorities have cautioned against using most of them in children under 18, and a top expert at the United States Food and Drug Administration considers most of the drugs too risky. But the F.D.A. as a whole is not yet convinced that the risks outweigh the potential benefits.

Not a single participant in trials of the drug has actually committed suicide, and there is uncertainty as to whether all the events classified as suicide attempts or suicidal thoughts were really what they seemed. The F.D.A. has contracted for an evaluation of the evidence by outside experts. For now, the agency is simply urging doctors to monitor their patients closely and is seeking stronger warning labels for 10 antidepressant drugs.

It is extraordinarily important to get the final judgment right. Depression, left untreated, is a major cause of suicide, and there is ample testimony from many young people and their doctors that the pills are vital for their well-being even if the overall evidence of effectiveness is weak. It remains to be determined whether, on balance, it is riskier to give the drugs or to withhold them.

What seems most astonishing is the skimpy evidence that these drugs work at all in most young patients. All the antidepressant drugs were approved for marketing based on clinical trials in adults, but once they were on the market, doctors were free to prescribe them for any patients and any purpose. Under a federal law that was drawn up to coax drug companies into studying the effects of their drugs in young people in exchange for an extension of patent rights, the major manufacturers studied their antidepressants in patients under 18. So far, only Prozac has shown enough evidence of effectiveness and safety to win approval from the F.D.A. and British health authorities. The discouraging results underscore the need to test all drugs in children that will be used in children because the effects are often different from those found in adults.

Many leading psychiatrists are convinced that the drugs have value in young people, based on what they deem positive results from some studies. But a critical evaluation by Australian researchers in a recent British Medical Journal article concludes that the authors of the largest published studies "have exaggerated the benefits, downplayed the harms, or both," possibly because of financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry.

Clearly, the companies and medical experts who believe that antidepressants can help young patients have a lot more work to do to make their case. The issue would seem important enough for the government, perhaps through the National Institute of Mental Health, to finance a large and well-designed study to get a definitive answer.