Fertility and EMFs

[Guest guest]

As of late I've been doing a lot of thinking about the threat of EMFs on

a daily basis. My dh and I both spend our days in front of our computers

as we are graphic artists, and I'm really concerned about how that might

be affecting our fertility. We are trying to conceive now and are now on

month four. I am a student of nutrition and well aware of the role that

diet plays in our fertility, so we are eating very well and also

supplementing with the vital minerals/vitamins and making use of a

number of herbal preparations. But this EMF thing is freaking me out a

bit and I'd like to know if anyone has opinions on how we can protect

ourselves (other than quitting our jobs which will be a possibility

probably in the next few years but not now).

 

Thanks so much,

ILANA

[Guest guest]

Hi Amanda,

No it's not a pry! I'm more than happy to share, especially if people

might have suggestions. I was using the FAM method, ie - checking BBT's

and matching it with primary fertility and secondary signs like cervical

fluid and mittleschmerz and the like. I did that for two months then decided

that I know enough about my body now to know when I'm ovulating as it's

pretty obvious within a few days so I've stopped the temping as of this

cycle. My concern, however, is that spending so much time at our computers

is going to affect the quality of our seeds.

I've got dh on vitamin C, E with selenium, zinc with copper and folic

acid. I am taking C, E and folic acid and making use of teas and tinctures

(Chasteberry, dong quai, squaw vine in tincture, and nettle, red raspberry,

oat straw, alfalfa and number of others in tea form) to normalize my hormones.

My cycles were going whacky after the pill and I restablished a normal

pattern as well as strengthened the ovulation signs and my overall confidence

in my reproductive ability. I hate having to monitor my fertility each

morning using tools as I get hung up on the results, so I decided that

from now on we'll just go by my signs and hope for the best!

ILANA xoxox

"crawlerbunny " wrote:

herbal remedies ,

Ilana Grostern <ilana@c...>

wrote:

> As of late I've been doing a lot of thinking about the threat

of

EMFs on

> a daily basis. My dh and I both spend our days in front of our

computers

> as we are graphic artists, and I'm really concerned about how

that

might

> be affecting our fertility. We are trying to conceive now and

are

now on

> month four.

Ilana,

I think the greatest risks from EMF's and computers is if you sit

behind them (ie: you have workers behind you working on computers

and

then you are more exposed). I will double check this in my

pregnancy

texts later today for you too.

I hope this isn't a pry, but have you heard of the "ferning" method

of checking when you are fertile? You may not be doing any

of this

at all, just letting what happens-happen. But if you checking

for

and following fertility awareness, then this might be something

that

would interest you. You simply check your saliva daily using

a

microscope, and when ferning begins to appear you are starting

your

fertile time. When ferning is heaviest, you ARE fertile.

I will

post the instructions below for you too. You can use a normal

inexpensive microscope to so this too. (There is a lipstick

size

microscope called the Lens that you can get for over $30 to do

this

too, but it is very hard to read the results on it.) I can

also tell

you that this WORKS! It is accurate by like 98%! It

does match the

nfp charting too (my sister tested this out so that I would know

for

sure). I know a number of babies conceived using this method-one

of

them being one of my own. <g>

Blessings,

Amanda

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Reading saliva patterns:

Best times to collect a sample are mid-morning, afternoon, or

evening. Early morning tests may not be optimal, as hormone

concentration may be too low. Some women test two times a

day to

confirm results or to note changes.

IMPORTANT: Take NOTHING by mouth (food, liquid, toothpaste, etc)

for

at least 1/2 hour before testing to insure an accurate sample.

Saliva Step 1: Clean and dry the slide.

Saliva Step 2: Lick the slide lightly to create a thin film of

saliva.

(Lick just a strip in the center of the slide.)

Saliva Step 3: Allow to dry fpr 20 minutes. Let the sample

dry

naturally.

Do NOT blow on the slide or place near heat to speed drying.

The results will stay on the lens until washed.

Saliva Step 4: Read the slide, by looking through the microscope.

(I use the 96X-144X reading.) Focus (zoom) until you have

a clear

view.

You are looking for a ferning pattern. This looks like the

crystals

you see on a frosty window, or on the fern plant leaves.

The first

part of your cycle you will see just blobs on the slide.

As you

start into your fertile time, you will first see a small amount

of

ferning (you will know it when you see it), that increases until

your

fertile day (ovulation). That day the area you licked will

be full

of the ferning pattern. Then the ferning becomes slight and

disappears. You may have a day or two of ferning just before

your

period begins (a nice warning to be prepared). It is that easy.

They stress that this is *FERTILITY AWARENESS*. It is NOT

the "Rhythm Method", which is a highly inaccurate system of

predicting future cycles from a mathematical formula based on past

cycles. In reality, female cycles vary tremendously from woman

to

woman and often within each woman herself.

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice

or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention that I don't just sit in front of one computer. I have

two servers behind me, one screen and two great big printers as well. None

of them have their backs towards me, though.

I've read that we are exposed to one hundred times more EMF's than our

grandparents were at the same time in their lives. One of my teachers once

pointed out that if we went back in time 100 years and brought someone

back with us here they'd probably die of radiation poisoning in a very

short amount of time. How's that for evolution?

ILANA

"crawlerbunny " wrote:

herbal remedies ,

Ilana Grostern <ilana@c...>

wrote:

> As of late I've been doing a lot of thinking about the threat

of

EMFs on

> a daily basis. My dh and I both spend our days in front of our

computers

> as we are graphic artists, and I'm really concerned about how

that

might

> be affecting our fertility. We are trying to conceive now and

are

now on

> month four.

Ilana,

I think the greatest risks from EMF's and computers is if you sit

behind them (ie: you have workers behind you working on computers

and

then you are more exposed). I will double check this in my

pregnancy

texts later today for you too.

I hope this isn't a pry, but have you heard of the "ferning" method

of checking when you are fertile? You may not be doing any

of this

at all, just letting what happens-happen. But if you checking

for

and following fertility awareness, then this might be something

that

would interest you. You simply check your saliva daily using

a

microscope, and when ferning begins to appear you are starting

your

fertile time. When ferning is heaviest, you ARE fertile.

I will

post the instructions below for you too. You can use a normal

inexpensive microscope to so this too. (There is a lipstick

size

microscope called the Lens that you can get for over $30 to do

this

too, but it is very hard to read the results on it.) I can

also tell

you that this WORKS! It is accurate by like 98%! It

does match the

nfp charting too (my sister tested this out so that I would know

for

sure). I know a number of babies conceived using this method-one

of

them being one of my own. <g>

Blessings,

Amanda

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Reading saliva patterns:

Best times to collect a sample are mid-morning, afternoon, or

evening. Early morning tests may not be optimal, as hormone

concentration may be too low. Some women test two times a

day to

confirm results or to note changes.

IMPORTANT: Take NOTHING by mouth (food, liquid, toothpaste, etc)

for

at least 1/2 hour before testing to insure an accurate sample.

Saliva Step 1: Clean and dry the slide.

Saliva Step 2: Lick the slide lightly to create a thin film of

saliva.

(Lick just a strip in the center of the slide.)

Saliva Step 3: Allow to dry fpr 20 minutes. Let the sample

dry

naturally.

Do NOT blow on the slide or place near heat to speed drying.

The results will stay on the lens until washed.

Saliva Step 4: Read the slide, by looking through the microscope.

(I use the 96X-144X reading.) Focus (zoom) until you have

a clear

view.

You are looking for a ferning pattern. This looks like the

crystals

you see on a frosty window, or on the fern plant leaves.

The first

part of your cycle you will see just blobs on the slide.

As you

start into your fertile time, you will first see a small amount

of

ferning (you will know it when you see it), that increases until

your

fertile day (ovulation). That day the area you licked will

be full

of the ferning pattern. Then the ferning becomes slight and

disappears. You may have a day or two of ferning just before

your

period begins (a nice warning to be prepared). It is that easy.

They stress that this is *FERTILITY AWARENESS*. It is NOT

the "Rhythm Method", which is a highly inaccurate system of

predicting future cycles from a mathematical formula based on past

cycles. In reality, female cycles vary tremendously from woman

to

woman and often within each woman herself.

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice

or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ilana,

 

I agree with Amanda, just take the "must have" off of it, and chill out and have some fun.

 

If you were to take "Wild Yam" for about a month (a natural contraceptive), you'd find that if you then stopped it at the end of that time, you'd be hyper fertile. Hope this helps.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

PS. It would also help if you were in excellent physical condition.

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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crawlerbunny <crawlerbunny

herbal remedies

Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:28 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: Fertility and EMFs

herbal remedies , Ilana Grostern <ilana@c...> wrote:> I hate having to monitor my fertility each morning using tools as I get hung up on the results, so I decided that from now on we'll just go by my signs and hope for the best!> ILANA xoxoxSounds right to me. So many couples get caught up in the "right time" that they take all the fun out of the 'couple act. ;)A book you might enjoy for this time before pregnancy and during, for labor, birth, and post partum, as well as for the newborn is Susun Weed's "Herbs in the Childbearing Year". It is really an excellent book! Cost is about $9. Don't know what I would have done without my copy! lol! :)Amanda

[Guest guest]

Hi Ilana,

 

Apparently Vitamin E has a lot to do with fertility.

 

When I wanted to get pregnant, both my husband and I took extra Vit E for about 3 months. I got pregnant right after we got married, which is what I'd wanted. I don't know how much the Vit E helped, but it worked :-)

 

love,

Lisa

 

-

Ilana Grostern

Herbal

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:49 PM

[herbal remedies] Fertility and EMFs

As of late I've been doing a lot of thinking about the threat of EMFs ona daily basis. My dh and I both spend our days in front of our computersas we are graphic artists, and I'm really concerned about how that mightbe affecting our fertility. We are trying to conceive now and are now onmonth four. I am a student of nutrition and well aware of the role thatdiet plays in our fertility, so we are eating very well and alsosupplementing with the vital minerals/vitamins and making use of anumber of herbal preparations. But this EMF thing is freaking me out abit and I'd like to know if anyone has opinions on how we can protectourselves (other than quitting our jobs which will be a possibilityprobably in the next few years but not now).Thanks so much,ILANAFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lisa. We're both taking 400IU of E daily, mixed tocopherols with selenium

so we've go that one covered. We're also taking Vit C, about 2000mg a day

when we can remember, but at least 1000mg and also folic acid, and he's taking

zinc with copper. So I think we've got all the supplemental vitamins covered

and the rest is making sure we both eat optimally.

 

We just got married two months ago so hopefully it won't be much longer now!

 

ILANA xoxo

 

Lisa Belcher wrote:

Hi Ilana,

 

Apparently Vitamin E has a lot to do with fertility.

 

When I wanted to get pregnant, both my husband and

I took extra Vit E for about 3 months. I got pregnant right after we got

married, which is what I'd wanted. I don't know how much the Vit E helped,

but it worked :-)

 

love,

Lisa

-----

Original Message -----

 

Ilana Grostern

To:

Herbal

Sent:

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:49 PM

Subject:

[herbal remedies] Fertility and EMFs

 

 

As of late I've been doing a lot of thinking about the threat of EMFs

on

a daily basis. My dh and I both spend our days in front of our computers

as we are graphic artists, and I'm really concerned about how that might

be affecting our fertility. We are trying to conceive now and are now

on

month four. I am a student of nutrition and well aware of the role that

diet plays in our fertility, so we are eating very well and also

supplementing with the vital minerals/vitamins and making use of a

number of herbal preparations. But this EMF thing is freaking me out a

bit and I'd like to know if anyone has opinions on how we can protect

ourselves (other than quitting our jobs which will be a possibility

probably in the next few years but not now).

 

Thanks so much,

ILANA

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

 

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

 

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well Congratulations!!!

 

With vitamins, you need to ensure that you're not unbalancing your body by taking only certain vitamins and not others. It is much better to take a well balance multi-vitamin in normal cases, unless you have a severe deficiency in one particular one. Specially any of the B vitamins - usually it's better to take a B-complex which includes all the B vitamins, rather than one of the B-vitamins, as it throws all the other ones out of sync in your body.

 

A very good source on vitamins for pregnancy/babies is Adele Davis: Let's have healthy children. It takes you from wanting to get pregnant right up to the toddler age of the child. Very good nutritional/vitamin information. This was my bible when I was wanting a baby. And I'd been on the pill for years, so wanted to make sure that I wasn't starting the pregnancy with a deficient body out-of-whack. And it was great - I had a great pregnancy - no problems at all.

 

love,

Lisa

 

-

Ilana Grostern

herbal remedies

Friday, January 10, 2003 9:50 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Fertility and EMFs

Thanks Lisa. We're both taking 400IU of E daily, mixed tocopherols with selenium so we've go that one covered. We're also taking Vit C, about 2000mg a day when we can remember, but at least 1000mg and also folic acid, and he's taking zinc with copper. So I think we've got all the supplemental vitamins covered and the rest is making sure we both eat optimally.We just got married two months ago so hopefully it won't be much longer now!ILANA xoxoLisa Belcher wrote:

 

Hi Ilana,

 

Apparently Vitamin E has a lot to do with fertility.

 

When I wanted to get pregnant, both my husband and I took extra Vit E for about 3 months. I got pregnant right after we got married, which is what I'd wanted. I don't know how much the Vit E helped, but it worked :-)

 

love,

Lisa

 

-

Ilana Grostern

Herbal

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:49 PM

[herbal remedies] Fertility and EMFs

As of late I've been doing a lot of thinking about the threat of EMFs ona daily basis. My dh and I both spend our days in front of our computersas we are graphic artists, and I'm really concerned about how that mightbe affecting our fertility. We are trying to conceive now and are now onmonth four. I am a student of nutrition and well aware of the role thatdiet plays in our fertility, so we are eating very well and alsosupplementing with the vital minerals/vitamins and making use of anumber of herbal preparations. But this EMF thing is freaking me out abit and I'd like to know if anyone has opinions on how we can protectourselves (other than quitting our jobs which will be a possibilityprobably in the next few years but not now).Thanks so much,ILANAFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Ooooh!! Another book! I love those sorts of books. Thanks for the title,

Lisa. I'll jump onto Chapters after I finish this and see if I can find it.

 

As for the vitamins, we always take ours at meals and I try to make sure

that what we eat has the vitamins needed to complete the synergistic relationship

that exists between all vitamins. Also, aside from the folic acid/B12 supplement,

the others are bundled with what they need to properly function. My nutrition

teacher is very anti-supplement but I believe that there is still need in

some cases when you have a hard time getting what is missing from food. And

we're only going to be doing this for a short time anyways, until I get pregnant

and then we'll just go back to very minor supplementation.

 

I'm not big on multi-vitamins because the levels of most are pretty negligible

even if they are geared for specific conditions. IF they are manufactured

in the US they usually adhere to the RDAs established by that country, and

for some of the vitamins those maximum amounts are just plain silly! For

instance, the vitamin C RDA is a piddly 60mg! THat's kind of laughable in

my opinion, and I don't want us to be popping more pills to have to make

up for the shortcomings of the multis.

 

I will take your advice to heart, Lisa. Thanks so much!

 

ILANA xoxo

 

Lisa Belcher wrote:

 

 

Well Congratulations!!!

 

With vitamins, you need to ensure that you're not unbalancing

your body by taking only certain vitamins and not others. It is much better

to take a well balance multi-vitamin in normal cases, unless you have a

severe deficiency in one particular one. Specially any of the B vitamins

- usually it's better to take a B-complex which includes all the B vitamins,

rather than one of the B-vitamins, as it throws all the other ones out of

sync in your body.

 

A very good source on vitamins for pregnancy/babies

is Adele Davis: Let's have healthy children. It takes you from wanting to

get pregnant right up to the toddler age of the child. Very good nutritional/vitamin

information. This was my bible when I was wanting a baby. And I'd been on

the pill for years, so wanted to make sure that I wasn't starting the pregnancy

with a deficient body out-of-whack. And it was great - I had a great pregnancy

- no problems at all.

 

love,

Lisa

-----

Original Message -----

 

Ilana Grostern

To:

herbal remedies

 

Sent:

Friday, January 10, 2003 9:50 PM

Subject:

Re: [herbal remedies] Fertility and EMFs

 

 

Thanks Lisa. We're both taking 400IU of E daily, mixed tocopherols with

selenium so we've go that one covered. We're also taking Vit C, about

2000mg a day when we can remember, but at least 1000mg and also folic acid, and he's taking zinc with copper. So I think we've got all the supplemental

vitamins covered and the rest is making sure we both eat optimally.

 

We just got married two months ago so hopefully it won't be much longer

now!

 

ILANA xoxo

 

Lisa Belcher wrote:

Hi Ilana,

 

Apparently Vitamin E has a lot to do with fertility.

 

When I wanted to get pregnant, both my husband

and I took extra Vit E for about 3 months. I got pregnant right after

we got married, which is what I'd wanted. I don't know how much the

Vit E helped, but it worked :-)

 

love,

Lisa

-----

Original Message -----

 

Ilana

Grostern

To:

Herbal

Sent:

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:49 PM

Subject:

[herbal remedies] Fertility and EMFs

 

 

As of late I've been doing a lot of thinking about the threat of EMFs

on

a daily basis. My dh and I both spend our days in front of our computers

as we are graphic artists, and I'm really concerned about how that

might

be affecting our fertility. We are trying to conceive now and are

now on

month four. I am a student of nutrition and well aware of the role

that

diet plays in our fertility, so we are eating very well and also

supplementing with the vital minerals/vitamins and making use of a

number of herbal preparations. But this EMF thing is freaking me out

a

bit and I'd like to know if anyone has opinions on how we can protect

ourselves (other than quitting our jobs which will be a possibility

probably in the next few years but not now).

 

Thanks so much,

ILANA

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington