i am adhd

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a couple things people don't understand is we try so hard to behave we want to be good and liked, but we aren't. the reason for this is we "can't" behave, we are unable to proccess information right. it is true that intellegence isn't the problem we adhd people are very intelegent with a very creative streak. the problem isn't intelegence it is the fact that our brain doesn't work like others. i have beed adhd for 35 years and i am on meds for it thank heavens. but before meds i had 2 failed marriages 4 children 100's of jobs and a crazy life and because i was always trying to be good i had zero self-esteem. during my highs i would start a ton of projects and then not get them finished. not only distracting to me but others as well until people couldn't trust my mood or wheater i was listening and or involved in them at all. the 3rd grade was horrible absolutly torcher and for ms. fryburg too, that poor woman wanted order and i had none. constant chatter and a wiggle for everything, my self diminished whith each trip to the office. i spent most of my time in the office, a's always never failed a test. but i was in trouble all the time. the comment about attention is somewhat correct but we are looking for attention in that sence love is great but it won't make our brain work right. we want to be okay. now on meds i'm stil a freak at times but have been able to adjust to the way my brain works i now have the ability to start a project and continue going back until its finished. so when you come across someone with adhd recognize it's not what they want a brain that doesn't proccess information right. a note not all meds work and not all adhd people need meds but for those of us that do it's as important as insulin to a diabetic.

naturalbev <morethanherbs wrote:

I don't come out very often, but children being on medication for ADD/ADHD just clutches at my heart. We really don't know what the long-term effects are and it's very scary! There are a couple of little booklets - 'Is Ritalin Neccessary?' and ADD - 'The Natural Approach' available in just about any health store that will give you some great insight. I would begin with the omegas (beginning perhaps with Flax Seed Oil) Also, I believe essential oils are wonderful for this. I also have a belief that kids that 'have' this are highly intelligent kids, with so much curiosity they get bored easily and need much personal attention and brain stimulation in the form of learning and activities. If you'd like to talk to me about the essential oils, just email me directly. Blessings to you,Beverly / NaturalBevReflexologist & Raindrop FacilitatorEFT-CCNatural Health ConsultantFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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I hope that you read the post I did on ADD and what it really is. It sounds like you have a hard time with this whole thing but in your post you state that you are on meds and you are still a freak. Did you stop to think that there are other things out there besides meds that can help. As for school being a bad experience. I don't think that was your ADD, even normal kids can't stand how boring school is. The older they get the more conditioned they become and when it comes to putting up with a failing system, it's not about suppressing the need to actually learn it's about fixing the problem, not just the symptoms.

 

 

annettekaye casady [my4yellowroses] Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:12 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: [herbal remedies] i am adhd

a couple things people don't understand is we try so hard to behave we want to be good and liked, but we aren't. the reason for this is we "can't" behave, we are unable to proccess information right. it is true that intellegence isn't the problem we adhd people are very intelegent with a very creative streak. the problem isn't intelegence it is the fact that our brain doesn't work like others. i have beed adhd for 35 years and i am on meds for it thank heavens. but before meds i had 2 failed marriages 4 children 100's of jobs and a crazy life and because i was always trying to be good i had zero self-esteem. during my highs i would start a ton of projects and then not get them finished. not only distracting to me but others as well until people couldn't trust my mood or wheater i was listening and or involved in them at all. the 3rd grade was horrible absolutly torcher and for ms. fryburg too, that poor woman wanted order and i had none. constant chatter and a wiggle for everything, my self diminished whith each trip to the office. i spent most of my time in the office, a's always never failed a test. but i was in trouble all the time. the comment about attention is somewhat correct but we are looking for attention in that sence love is great but it won't make our brain work right. we want to be okay. now on meds i'm stil a freak at times but have been able to adjust to the way my brain works i now have the ability to start a project and continue going back until its finished. so when you come across someone with adhd recognize it's not what they want a brain that doesn't proccess information right. a note not all meds work and not all adhd people need meds but for those of us that do it's as important as insulin to a diabetic. naturalbev <morethanherbs wrote: I don't come out very often, but children being on medication for ADD/ADHD just clutches at my heart. We really don't know what the long-term effects are and it's very scary! There are a couple of little booklets - 'Is Ritalin Neccessary?' and ADD - 'The Natural Approach' available in just about any health store that will give you some great insight. I would begin with the omegas (beginning perhaps with Flax Seed Oil) Also, I believe essential oils are wonderful for this. I also have a belief that kids that 'have' this are highly intelligent kids, with so much curiosity they get bored easily and need much personal attention and brain stimulation in the form of learning and activities. If you'd like to talk to me about the essential oils, just email me directly. Blessings to you,Beverly / NaturalBevReflexologist & Raindrop FacilitatorEFT-CCNatural Health ConsultantFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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My question is are you trying to get off the meds and go totatlly herbal? Many of the people on this list are having wonderful results by going herbal and staying away from the meds.... ( that is why we are here)

Suzi

Lauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

 

I hope that you read the post I did on ADD and what it really is. It sounds like you have a hard time with this whole thing but in your post you state that you are on meds and you are still a freak. Did you stop to think that there are other things out there besides meds that can help. As for school being a bad experience. I don't think that was your ADD, even normal kids can't stand how boring school is. The older they get the more conditioned they become and when it comes to putting up with a failing system, it's not about suppressing the need to actually learn it's about fixing the problem, not just the symptoms.

 

 

annettekaye casady [my4yellowroses] Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:12 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: [herbal remedies] i am adhd

a couple things people don't understand is we try so hard to behave we want to be good and liked, but we aren't. the reason for this is we "can't" behave, we are unable to proccess information right. it is true that intellegence isn't the problem we adhd people are very intelegent with a very creative streak. the problem isn't intelegence it is the fact that our brain doesn't work like others. i have beed adhd for 35 years and i am on meds for it thank heavens. but before meds i had 2 failed marriages 4 children 100's of jobs and a crazy life and because i was always trying to be good i had zero self-esteem. during my highs i would start a ton of projects and then not get them finished. not only distracting to me but others as well until people couldn't trust my mood or wheater i was listening and or involved in them at all. the 3rd grade was horrible absolutly torcher and for ms. fryburg too, that poor woman wanted order and i had none. constant chatter and a wiggle for everything, my self diminished whith each trip to the office. i spent most of my time in the office, a's always never failed a test. but i was in trouble all the time. the comment about attention is somewhat correct but we are looking for attention in that sence love is great but it won't make our brain work right. we want to be okay. now on meds i'm stil a freak at times but have been able to adjust to the way my brain works i now have the ability to start a project and continue going back until its finished. so when you come across someone with adhd recognize it's not what they want a brain that doesn't proccess information right. a note not all meds work and not all adhd people need meds but for those of us that do it's as important as insulin to a diabetic. naturalbev <morethanherbs wrote: I don't come out very often, but children being on medication for ADD/ADHD just clutches at my heart. We really don't know what the long-term effects are and it's very scary! There are a couple of little booklets - 'Is Ritalin Neccessary?' and ADD - 'The Natural Approach' available in just about any health store that will give you some great insight. I would begin with the omegas (beginning perhaps with Flax Seed Oil) Also, I believe essential oils are wonderful for this. I also have a belief that kids that 'have' this are highly intelligent kids, with so much curiosity they get bored easily and need much personal attention and brain stimulation in the form of learning and activities. If you'd like to talk to me about the essential oils, just email me directly. Blessings to you,Beverly / NaturalBevReflexologist & Raindrop FacilitatorEFT-CCNatural Health ConsultantFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Annette,

 

It sounds like many people throughout the years have been telling you how bad you are. I know how even a look can make you cringe inside, making you feel as though you're useless.

 

You need to get yourself away from people who make you feel that way, and start associating with people who like you for who and what you are. You'll be amazed with the difference :-)

 

Also, please look in the files on our website for Doc Shillington's article on ADD/ADHD. This condition has everything to do with nutrition. I am no expert, but it sounds to me like you need to:

1. get off the meds. But be very careful there, and do it only with doctor's guidance on a gradient basis.

2. do a full and thorough body cleanse.

3. change your diet to a total organic diet.

 

I don't think there's any point doing the cleanse until you're off the meds.

 

I think it will be very important for you to have a good friend standing by you and helping you out through this period, as it might get rough. But the purpose here is to fully handle the symptoms, and that would be worth it, wouldn't it?

 

all the best,

 

Lisa

 

 

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annettekaye casady

herbal remedies

Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:12 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] i am adhd

 

a couple things people don't understand is we try so hard to behave we want to be good and liked, but we aren't. the reason for this is we "can't" behave, we are unable to proccess information right. it is true that intellegence isn't the problem we adhd people are very intelegent with a very creative streak. the problem isn't intelegence it is the fact that our brain doesn't work like others. i have beed adhd for 35 years and i am on meds for it thank heavens. but before meds i had 2 failed marriages 4 children 100's of jobs and a crazy life and because i was always trying to be good i had zero self-esteem. during my highs i would start a ton of projects and then not get them finished. not only distracting to me but others as well until people couldn't trust my mood or wheater i was listening and or involved in them at all. the 3rd grade was horrible absolutly torcher and for ms. fryburg too, that poor woman wanted order and i had none. constant chatter and a wiggle for everything, my self diminis hed whith each trip to the office. i spent most of my time in the office, a's always never failed a test. but i was in trouble all the time. the comment about attention is somewhat correct but we are looking for attention in that sence love is great but it won't make our brain work right. we want to be okay. now on meds i'm stil a freak at times but have been able to adjust to the way my brain works i now have the ability to start a project and continue going back until its finished. so when you come across someone with adhd recognize it's not what they want a brain that doesn't proccess information right. a note not all meds work and not all adhd people need meds but for those of us that do it's as important as insulin to a diabetic. naturalbev <morethanherbs wrote: I don't come out very often, but children being on medication for ADD/ADHD just clutches at my heart. We really don't know what the long-term effects are and it's very scary! There are a couple of little booklets - 'Is Ritalin Neccessary?' and ADD - 'The Natural Approach' available in just about any health store that will give you some great insight. I would begin with the omegas (beginning perhaps with Flax Seed Oil) Also, I believe essential oils are wonderful for this. I also have a belief that kids that 'have' this are highly intelligent kids, with so much curiosity they get bored easily and need much personal attention and brain stimulation in the form of learning and activities. If you'd like to talk to me about the essential oils, just email me directly. Blessings to you,Beverly / NaturalBevRefle xologist & Raindrop FacilitatorEFT-CCNatural Health ConsultantFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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herbal remedies, " Lauren Bastow " <lbastow@s...> wrote:

> As for school being a bad experience. I don't think that was your

> ADD, even normal kids can't stand how boring school is. <

 

Firstly, thanks heaps Lauren for that ADD/HD posting.......as I live

in Australia and unable to visit the Handle Inst., I have sent an

email off to them requesting more info. On the subject of

sensitivities, my son's sensitivity is sound, he hates loud sounds,

or at least what he deciphers as loud. As to your above comment about

school....my 11yo has had a terrible time all through his school

years and seems to be getting worse the older he gets, the other kids

alienate him because he IS different to them, in the way he thinks

and acts, so unfortunately he is a loner at school, and he never gets

invited to socialise with the other kids outside of school, luckily

this year he has a teacher who tries a little to help him, whereas in

the past the other teachers tended to either ignore him or punish

him. Yes I have tried several different approaches to his problems.I

had taken him off medication for 18mnths and tried diet change,

aromatherapy and herbal remedies, all with no real improvements, so I

have resorted to putting him back on meds at a lower dosage and

incorporating the herbals etc., which is also a problem as my son

refuses to try new things, and hates taking different

foods/herbs........as it is I crush his meds up with baccopa moniera

and mix into his yoghurt daily, the omega oils are a real hassle to

get down and quite often refused and thrown out, I try to get

pleasant tasting liquids where ever possible! You cannot force foods

and liquids into a child who simply refuses to even try.

Just wanted to add my lot to this topic.

Kristal

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristal,

 

I give my son the oils in liquid form, and mix it in his dinner. He doesn't even notice it that way :-)

 

Have you ever considered that it might be the school your son is objecting to, causing his behaviour?

 

Here in UK the schools have major problems: illiteracy, truancy, bullying, just to name a few. I am homeschooling my son for that reason. It's not easy for me, as I am (now) a solo mum, and also have to earn money. But we're managing. I wouldn't have it any other way, as I know my son will survive just so much better this way.

 

Lisa

 

-

Kristal

herbal remedies

Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:36 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: i am adhd

herbal remedies, "Lauren Bastow" <lbastow@s...> wrote:> As for school being a bad experience. I don't think that was your> ADD, even normal kids can't stand how boring school is. <Firstly, thanks heaps Lauren for that ADD/HD posting.......as I live in Australia and unable to visit the Handle Inst., I have sent an email off to them requesting more info. On the subject of sensitivities, my son's sensitivity is sound, he hates loud sounds, or at least what he deciphers as loud. As to your above comment about school....my 11yo has had a terrible time all through his school years and seems to be getting worse the older he gets, the other kids alienate him because he IS different to them, in the way he thinks and acts, so unfortunately he is a loner at school, and he never gets invited to socialise with the other kids outside of school, luckily this year he has a teacher who tries a little to help him, whereas in the past the other teachers tended to either ignore him or punish him. Yes I have tried several different approaches to his problems.I had taken him off medication for 18mnths and tried diet change, aromatherapy and herbal remedies, all with no real improvements, so I have resorted to putting him back on meds at a lower dosage and incorporating the herbals etc., which is also a problem as my son refuses to try new things, and hates taking different foods/herbs........as it is I crush his meds up with baccopa moniera and mix into his yoghurt daily, the omega oils are a real hassle to get down and quite often refused and thrown out, I try to get pleasant tasting liquids where ever possible! You cannot force foods and liquids into a child who simply refuses to even try.Just wanted to add my lot to this topic.KristalFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington