Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Hmmmmm... Doc said that papaya seeds are a very high source of enzymes, and indicated that he dries them and puts them in a pepper mill (I didn't see sprouting mentioned. Then he said that seeds contain enzyme inhibitors, so should be sprouted. I'm confused. Can anyone please advise? Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Greetings Melinda! I believe the article said to take I dried organic papaya seed (ground in a pepper mill) and the organic pineapple. As I understand it the seed will have both the enzyme inhibitors as well as the enzymes but the enzyme inhibitors can be neutralized by taking extra enzymes. So by eating the pineapple following the papaya seed the inhibitors are neutralized, as well as supplying your body with even more enzymes because organic pineapple is loaded with enzymes! Hope this helped! ~Nakota herbal remedies, " Melinda " <clicker@i...> wrote: > Hmmmmm... Doc said that papaya seeds are a very high source of > enzymes, and indicated that he dries them and puts them in a pepper > mill (I didn't see sprouting mentioned. Then he said that seeds > contain enzyme inhibitors, so should be sprouted. I'm confused. > Can anyone please advise? > > Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Post Scriptum The articles also says that the seeds also contain nutrients for instant assimilation. So it looks like our bodies start to absorb those enzymes as soon as the ground seed 'hits the stomach'. ~Nakota herbal remedies, " nakotakaia " <knwalkerusmc@h...> wrote: > Greetings Melinda! > > I believe the article said to take I dried organic papaya seed > (ground in a pepper mill) and the organic pineapple. As I understand > it the seed will have both the enzyme inhibitors as well as the > enzymes but the enzyme inhibitors can be neutralized by taking extra > enzymes. So by eating the pineapple following the papaya seed the > inhibitors are neutralized, as well as supplying your body with even > more enzymes because organic pineapple is loaded with enzymes! Hope > this helped! > > ~Nakota > > herbal remedies, " Melinda " <clicker@i...> wrote: > > Hmmmmm... Doc said that papaya seeds are a very high source of > > enzymes, and indicated that he dries them and puts them in a pepper > > mill (I didn't see sprouting mentioned. Then he said that seeds > > contain enzyme inhibitors, so should be sprouted. I'm confused. > > Can anyone please advise? > > > > Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Thanks Nakota -- but I don't understand. Why would this be true of papaya seeds and not others? Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Hi Melinda! I think it is true of the other seeds as well but the papaya seeds and pineapple apparently are the best sources of enzymes (alot of enzymes). Oh wait! I have a website that you could look at and try and understand better! www.kua.net/~haselden/page5s.html ~Nakota herbal remedies, " Melinda " <clicker@i...> wrote: > Thanks Nakota -- but I don't understand. Why would this be true of > papaya seeds and not others? > > Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 One reason you don't have to sprout papaya seeds is that they really are not eaten for their nutritive value but for the residual enzymes unique to the papaya fruit. No other seeds contain papain, the unique enzyme in papaya derived from the plant's latex. The seeds are ground to add a slight spicy flavor to dishes, as well as not wasting the seeds. The fruit contains a lot more enzyme than the seed, especially if its green and immature, but then who would want to eat them. The enzymes are not absorbed in the stomach but exert a biochemical activity as protein is introduced into the stomach and digestive system. Its biochemical activity is on protein. Below is a expanded description of papain. Michael PS. as far as why papaya seeds contain enzymes, this is because the plant produces them as part of its own defense and survival mechanism and the seeds have a residual amount. Other seeds have other chemicals and qualities. Why does any plant have a medicinal quality. Several enzymes have been found in papayas of which papain is of commercial importance. 2/3 of the usage in the USA is as a meat tenderizer and it is used as a beer stabilizing agent as well. The fruit (and leaves) contain papain which helps digestion and is used to tenderize meat. The edible seeds have a spicy flavor somewhat reminiscent of black pepper. Papaya is the only known food containing papain. Bromelain, another enzyme is derived from pineapple. Papain (Papaya Enzyme) and Bromelain (from Pineapples) are the strongest protein digesting enzymes known to exist, and are used in combination to help digest with protein containing meals. Papain helps to cleanse the tissues and intestinal walls of all waste matter in the form of excessive mucus and dead tissue. It is harmless to living tissue and is a must for maintenance of health in the intestinal tract. Papain has a unique ability of to break down protein and convert a portion of it into arginine. Arginine, in its natural form, has been found to influence the production of the human growth hormone of HGH. HGH is produced in the pituitary gland and is directly responsible for DNA and RNA replication as well as synthesis in liver, muscle, cartilage and adipose tissues. HGH helps to increase muscle tone and decrease the amount of body fat. Arginine has also been found to inhibit the growth of breast cancer cells in test tube studies. Papain is one of the most powerful proteolytic enzymes discovered so far. The crude enzyme that is directly spray-dried from the latex can digest 50 times lean meat on the weight basis, while the fine enzyme in which the most of contamination and inhibitor components, if any, has been removed, could digest as much as 500 times lean meat of its own weight. It is also known from the context of enzyme technology that the protein substrates will be digested much easier if they are rendered to be in a denatured configuration by heat pre-treatment. Under this condition, the papain could digest as high as 3000 times of its own weight of lean meat, and the cost of enzyme would therefore be greatly reduced. Note: Papain activity is described as Tyrosine Unit (TU), one TU ofpapain activity is defined as the amount of enzyme that releases the equivalent amount of 1 mg tyrosine from casein per minute under the conditions of pH 6.0, and temperature 37 C. papain Papain (Thiol protease) is from Carica papaya (pawpaw). Although it will cleave a variety of peptide bonds there is greatest activity one residue towards the C-terminus from a phenylalanine. http://www.hopeport.com/papain.htm herbal remedies, " nakotakaia " <knwalkerusmc@h...> wrote: > Greetings Melinda! > > I believe the article said to take I dried organic papaya seed > (ground in a pepper mill) and the organic pineapple. As I understand > it the seed will have both the enzyme inhibitors as well as the > enzymes but the enzyme inhibitors can be neutralized by taking extra > enzymes. So by eating the pineapple following the papaya seed the > inhibitors are neutralized, as well as supplying your body with even > more enzymes because organic pineapple is loaded with enzymes! Hope > this helped! > > ~Nakota > > herbal remedies, " Melinda " <clicker@i...> wrote: > > Hmmmmm... Doc said that papaya seeds are a very high source of > > enzymes, and indicated that he dries them and puts them in a pepper > > mill (I didn't see sprouting mentioned. Then he said that seeds > > contain enzyme inhibitors, so should be sprouted. I'm confused. > > Can anyone please advise? > > > > Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Thanks -- this was an excellent web page and I have book marked it. Melinda herbal remedies, " nakotakaia " <knwalkerusmc@h...> wrote: > > Hi Melinda! > > I think it is true of the other seeds as well but the papaya seeds > and pineapple apparently are the best sources of enzymes (alot of > enzymes). Oh wait! I have a website that you could look at and try > and understand better! > > www.kua.net/~haselden/page5s.html > > ~Nakota > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Wow, Michael, this post was wonderful and it explained so much. Thank you! I'm a believer. Melinda herbal remedies, " chinesemedicineman " <chinesemedicineman> wrote: > One reason you don't have to sprout papaya seeds is that > they really are not eaten for their nutritive value but for > the residual enzymes unique to the papaya fruit. > No other seeds contain papain, the unique enzyme in > papaya derived from the plant's latex. The seeds are > ground to add a slight spicy flavor to dishes, as well > as not wasting the seeds. The fruit contains a lot more > enzyme than the seed, especially if its green and immature, > but then who would want to eat them. The enzymes are not > absorbed in the stomach but exert a biochemical activity as > protein is introduced into the stomach and digestive system. > Its biochemical activity is on protein. Below is a expanded > description of papain. > > Michael > > PS. as far as why papaya seeds contain enzymes, > this is because the plant produces them as part of its > own defense and survival mechanism and the seeds have > a residual amount. Other seeds have other chemicals and > qualities. Why does any plant have a medicinal quality. > > > Several enzymes have been found in papayas of which papain > is of commercial importance. 2/3 of the usage in the USA is as a meat > tenderizer and it is used as a beer stabilizing agent as well. > The fruit (and leaves) contain papain which helps digestion and > is used to tenderize meat. The edible seeds have a spicy flavor > somewhat reminiscent of black pepper. Papaya is the only known > food containing papain. > Bromelain, another enzyme is derived from pineapple. > Papain (Papaya Enzyme) and Bromelain (from Pineapples) > are the strongest protein digesting enzymes known to exist, > and are used in combination to help digest with protein > containing meals. Papain helps to cleanse the tissues and > intestinal walls of all waste matter in the form of excessive > mucus and dead tissue. It is harmless to living tissue and > is a must for maintenance of health in the intestinal tract. > > Papain has a unique ability of to break down protein and > convert a portion of it into arginine. Arginine, in its natural > form, has been found to influence the production of the > human growth hormone of HGH. HGH is produced in the > pituitary gland and is directly responsible for DNA and RNA > replication as well as synthesis in liver, muscle, cartilage > and adipose tissues. HGH helps to increase muscle tone and > decrease the amount of body fat. > > Arginine has also been found to inhibit the growth of breast > cancer cells in test tube studies. > > Papain is one of the most powerful proteolytic enzymes > discovered so far. The crude enzyme that is directly > spray-dried from the latex can digest 50 times lean meat > on the weight basis, while the fine enzyme in which the > most of contamination and inhibitor components, if any, > has been removed, could digest as much as 500 times lean > meat of its own weight. It is also known from the context > of enzyme technology that the protein substrates will be > digested much easier if they are rendered to be in a denatured > configuration by heat pre-treatment. Under this condition, > the papain could digest as high as 3000 times of its own > weight of lean meat, and the cost of enzyme would therefore > be greatly > reduced. > > Note: Papain activity is described as Tyrosine Unit (TU), > one TU ofpapain activity is defined as the amount of enzyme > that releases the equivalent amount of 1 mg tyrosine from > casein per minute under the conditions of pH 6.0, and > temperature 37 C. papain > > Papain (Thiol protease) is from Carica papaya (pawpaw). > Although it will cleave a variety of peptide bonds > there is greatest activity one residue towards the > C-terminus from a phenylalanine. > > http://www.hopeport.com/papain.htm > > > > herbal remedies, " nakotakaia " <knwalkerusmc@h...> wrote: > > Greetings Melinda! > > > > I believe the article said to take I dried organic papaya seed > > (ground in a pepper mill) and the organic pineapple. As I understand > > it the seed will have both the enzyme inhibitors as well as the > > enzymes but the enzyme inhibitors can be neutralized by taking extra > > enzymes. So by eating the pineapple following the papaya seed the > > inhibitors are neutralized, as well as supplying your body with even > > more enzymes because organic pineapple is loaded with enzymes! Hope > > this helped! > > > > ~Nakota > > > > herbal remedies, " Melinda " <clicker@i...> wrote: > > > Hmmmmm... Doc said that papaya seeds are a very high source of > > > enzymes, and indicated that he dries them and puts them in a pepper > > > mill (I didn't see sprouting mentioned. Then he said that seeds > > > contain enzyme inhibitors, so should be sprouted. I'm confused. > > > Can anyone please advise? > > > > > > Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Dear Melinda, I certainly didn't mean to confuse you, and you brought up a very good point which will cause me to amend my original article. ;o) The seeds that have enzyme inhibitors in them are the ones where the seed is the fruit itself, such as sunflower seeds, poppy seeds, caraway, flax, sesame, etc. Seeds which are inside of the fruit have little to no enzyme inhibitors in them. Things like orange seeds, grapefruit seeds, papaya seeds, etc are almost if not completely free of enzyme inhibitors. With these kinds of fruit the main trigger that sets their seeds to growing is oxygen. Most of the enzyme inhibitors in these fruits are in the peel. There is a great book you can buy and read on Papayas called, "Papaya, The Melon of Health" by Chester D. French, and is completely devoted to promulgating the wonders of papayas. IT IS A SUPER FRUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Several years ago there was a national newspaper artice (please don't ask me which one and pass the Gingko LOL ;o), and there was a story in it about a world famous doctor who did organ transplants, and used slices of Papayas to heal infections on his patients when antibiotics didn't work. Papaya contains Papain which is a protein-splitting enzyme and is found in its highest quantity nearest to the skin. It is actually in its most potent and highest quantity in green, unripened papayas. It is also found in large quantities in the seeds. They are great for the digestion especially when taken just before or just after meals, and actually stimulate the digestive juices in the stomach. There's a million applications they can be used for = helps to get rid of wrinkles if you make a mask with them, helps with sunburns, and really brightens the complexion. It is a must for diaper rash, and can get rid of one in 4 to 6 hours. Do not put or dry the seeds in direct sunlight as this can kill them and knock off the enzymes. Hope this helps. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Melinda herbal remedies Monday, November 11, 2002 8:40 PM [herbal remedies] Papaya Seed Confusion Hmmmmm... Doc said that papaya seeds are a very high source of enzymes, and indicated that he dries them and puts them in a pepper mill (I didn't see sprouting mentioned. Then he said that seeds contain enzyme inhibitors, so should be sprouted. I'm confused. Can anyone please advise?Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Doc, oh yes, thank you -- it helps a bundle! As a person who keeps parrots, I think I've mentioned before that my birds would KILL for papaya seeds. They know what's good for them, apparently. I make sprouts for the birds, for me, and now for my dogs, too. And I've got papaya seeds drying right now, per your excellent advice. Melinda herbal remedies, " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote: > Dear Melinda, > > I certainly didn't mean to confuse you, and you brought up a very good point which will cause me to amend my original article. ;o) > > The seeds that have enzyme inhibitors in them are the ones where the seed is the fruit itself, such as sunflower seeds, poppy seeds, caraway, flax, sesame, etc. > > Seeds which are inside of the fruit have little to no enzyme inhibitors in them. Things like orange seeds, grapefruit seeds, papaya seeds, etc are almost if not completely free of enzyme inhibitors. With these kinds of fruit the main trigger that sets their seeds to growing is oxygen. Most of the enzyme inhibitors in these fruits are in the peel. > > There is a great book you can buy and read on Papayas called, " Papaya, The Melon of Health " by Chester D. French, and is completely devoted to promulgating the wonders of papayas. > > IT IS A SUPER FRUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Several years ago there was a national newspaper artice (please don't ask me which one and pass the Gingko LOL ;o), and there was a story in it about a world famous doctor who did organ transplants, and used slices of Papayas to heal infections on his patients when antibiotics didn't work. > > Papaya contains Papain which is a protein-splitting enzyme and is found in its highest quantity nearest to the skin. It is actually in its most potent and highest quantity in green, unripened papayas. It is also found in large quantities in the seeds. They are great for the digestion especially when taken just before or just after meals, and actually stimulate the digestive juices in the stomach. > > There's a million applications they can be used for = helps to get rid of wrinkles if you make a mask with them, helps with sunburns, and really brightens the complexion. It is a must for diaper rash, and can get rid of one in 4 to 6 hours. > > Do not put or dry the seeds in direct sunlight as this can kill them and knock off the enzymes. > > Hope this helps. > > Love, > > Doc > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 505-772-5889 > Dr.IanShillington@G... > - > Melinda > herbal remedies > Monday, November 11, 2002 8:40 PM > [herbal remedies] Papaya Seed Confusion > > > Hmmmmm... Doc said that papaya seeds are a very high source of > enzymes, and indicated that he dries them and puts them in a pepper > mill (I didn't see sprouting mentioned. Then he said that seeds > contain enzyme inhibitors, so should be sprouted. I'm confused. > Can anyone please advise? > > Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Good for you hon. Nice to know you're spreading the "herbal" word to your animals as well LOL. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Melinda herbal remedies Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:09 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Papaya Seed Confusion Doc, oh yes, thank you -- it helps a bundle! As a person who keeps parrots, I think I've mentioned before that my birds would KILL for papaya seeds. They know what's good for them, apparently. I make sprouts for the birds, for me, and now for my dogs, too. And I've got papaya seeds drying right now, per your excellent advice.Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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