Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Hi, I am hoping someone can help me. I have some old herbal recipes that I would like to try, but cannot seem to locate the herbs necessary to make them. Wondering if the names were made up as it passed thru generations, but thought with all your brillant minds might be abkle to shed some light on a couple of them. Thinking they are better known by some other common names. Here they are: Basswood Blossoms Beth Root Black Cherry Bark Buchu Leaves Button Snake Root Cheese Plant Fawn Breath Leaves Fenugreek Flowers Field Balsam Indian Turnip Princess Pine Tag Elder Tamarack Bark I know some of them sound common like the Basswood Blossoms, and Tamarack Bark but I can't find any one who carries them. And the Buchu leaves, I can find the concentrate but not the fresh and dried herbs. Been looking on the internet and haven't had any luck finding the herbs, names, or anything... Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 This is the BIG problem in using common names, especially when the same plant can have different common names in different locations (ie cheeses may also be known as mallows) or a common name can refer to more than one Genus and species. What is the source of these recipes? A book? A handwritten manuscript? Hope this helps mjh herbal remedies, " Kimberly Royston " <alivewithhealth@e...> wrote: > Hi, I am hoping someone can help me. I have some old herbal recipes that I > would like to try, but cannot seem to locate the herbs necessary to make > them. Wondering if the names were made up as it passed thru generations, > but thought with all your brillant minds might be abkle to shed some light > on a couple of them. Thinking they are better known by some other common > names. Here they are: > > Basswood Blossoms > Beth Root > Black Cherry Bark > Buchu Leaves > Button Snake Root > Cheese Plant > Fawn Breath Leaves > Fenugreek Flowers > Field Balsam > Indian Turnip > Princess Pine > Tag Elder > Tamarack Bark > > > I know some of them sound common like the Basswood Blossoms, and Tamarack > Bark but I can't find any one who carries them. And the Buchu leaves, I can > find the concentrate but not the fresh and dried herbs. Been looking on the > internet and haven't had any luck finding the herbs, names, or anything... > > Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 There is no way of knowing if these are correct, but here is a list of possible herb correlations. Many of them are actually listed in J. Kloss's book. What is this formula for? There is probably a safer modern formula! There is some quite strong herbs in this list. Many old time formulas anticipated that many of the herbswere going to be collected right before using. Hope this helps, Michael Basswood Blossoms- also Linden- Tiliaceae Tilia europea http://www.capricornslair.com/linflowcut10.html http://www.natural-aid.com/Herbs/linden.htm Beth Root- rillium erectum http://www.purplesage.org.uk/profiles/bethroot.htm Black Cherry Bark - Prunus serotina http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/herbhunters/blackcherry.html Buchu Leaves- Round Buchu: Agathosma betulina (Berg) Pill., (syn. Barosma betulina Bartl.), Agathosma crenulata(Long Buchu), Barosma crenulata, Barosma serratifolia http://www.nutritionfocus.com/nutrition_supplement ation/herbs/Buchu_Leaves.html Button Snake Root- ERYNGIUM YUCCAEFOLIUM http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/eclectic/cook/ERYNGIUM_YUCCAEFOLIUM.htm Fawn Breath Leaves- Porteranthus trifoliata Fawn's Breath is also known as Indian Physic and American Ipecac because of its strong emetic properties. Field Balsam - Gnaphalium polycephalum http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/b/balwhi08.html Indian Turnip- Arisaema triphyllum http://www.meridianinstitute.com/echerb/Files/1indiant.html Princess Pine Princess pine (also referred to as ground pine) is a member of a group of primitive vascular plants called club mosses. It vaguely resembles a pine tree, except that it measures less than a foot tall. It remains green year round. It grows best in moist, nutrient-rich hardwood forests, but occurs in a variety of habitats and soil types throughout the ceded territories. It can often be found growing in clusters because it reproduces primarily by developing aerial shoots from an underground stem or rhizome. Reproduction from spores occurs less frequently. Princess pine actually consists of three different species that look almost identical. These species include Lycopodium obscurum, L. dendroideum, and L. hickeyi; with L. obscurum being most common in this area. All three species are harvested. These guidelines include gathering only the aerial portion of princess pine without disturbing the underground rhizome and gathering less than 50% of a population within a given year. In addition, harvesting should not occur anytime before September to allow for reproduction by spores. Tamarack Bark- american larch, Northeastern Larch or Tamarack (Larix laricina) Fenugreek Flowers Cheese Plant Tag Elder herbal remedies, " Kimberly Royston " <a livewithhealth@e...> wrote: > Hi, I am hoping someone can help me. I have some old herbal recipes that I > would like to try, but cannot seem to locate the herbs necessary to make > them. Wondering if the names were made up as it passed thru generations, > but thought with all your brillant minds might be abkle to shed some light > on a couple of them. Thinking they are better known by some other common > names. Here they are: > > Basswood Blossoms > Beth Root > Black Cherry Bark > Buchu Leaves > Button Snake Root > Cheese Plant > Fawn Breath Leaves > Fenugreek Flowers > Field Balsam > Indian Turnip > Princess Pine > Tag Elder > Tamarack Bark > > > I know some of them sound common like the Basswood Blossoms, and Tamarack > Bark but I can't find any one who carries them. And the Buchu leaves, I can > find the concentrate but not the fresh and dried herbs. Been looking on the > internet and haven't had any luck finding the herbs, names, or anything... > > Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Actually, these are formulas that were given to me after the woman who had them was killed in a car accident. She was well known in the area for being an herbalist and healer and the formulas are all handwritten on scraps of paper. Another reason why it is difficult, as I am not sure if I am even asking for the right herb as her spelling was pretty poor. But I do know her formulas were potent as I had the privilege of having to use some of them myself and couldn't believe the results I'd get! That is why I am so eager to continue on with her work. Kim - " mjhampstead " <foxhillers <herbal remedies > Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:21 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Strange Herbs and Names > This is the BIG problem in using common names, especially when the > same plant can have different common names in different locations (ie > cheeses may also be known as mallows) or a common name can refer to > more than one Genus and species. > What is the source of these recipes? A book? A handwritten > manuscript? > > Hope this helps > mjh > > herbal remedies, " Kimberly Royston " > <alivewithhealth@e...> wrote: > > Hi, I am hoping someone can help me. I have some old herbal > recipes that I > > would like to try, but cannot seem to locate the herbs necessary to > make > > them. Wondering if the names were made up as it passed thru > generations, > > but thought with all your brillant minds might be abkle to shed > some light > > on a couple of them. Thinking they are better known by some other > common > > names. Here they are: > > > > Basswood Blossoms > > Beth Root > > Black Cherry Bark > > Buchu Leaves > > Button Snake Root > > Cheese Plant > > Fawn Breath Leaves > > Fenugreek Flowers > > Field Balsam > > Indian Turnip > > Princess Pine > > Tag Elder > > Tamarack Bark > > > > > > I know some of them sound common like the Basswood Blossoms, and > Tamarack > > Bark but I can't find any one who carries them. And the Buchu > leaves, I can > > find the concentrate but not the fresh and dried herbs. Been > looking on the > > internet and haven't had any luck finding the herbs, names, or > anything... > > > > Thanks guys > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2002 Report Share Posted October 30, 2002 Kim, Maybe if we saw the formula and what it's being used for that we can match up the herbs being used. Suzi Kimberly Royston <alivewithhealth wrote: Actually, these are formulas that were given to me after the woman who hadthem was killed in a car accident. She was well known in the area for beingan herbalist and healer and the formulas are all handwritten on scraps ofpaper. Another reason why it is difficult, as I am not sure if I am evenasking for the right herb as her spelling was pretty poor.But I do know her formulas were potent as I had the privilege of having touse some of them myself and couldn't believe the results I'd get! That iswhy I am so eager to continue on with her work.Kim-"mjhampstead" Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:21 PM[herbal remedies] Re: Strange Herbs and Names> This is the BIG problem in using common names, especially when the> same plant can have different common names in different locations (ie> cheeses may also be known as mallows) or a common name can refer to> more than one Genus and species.> What is the source of these recipes? A book? A handwritten> manuscript?>> Hope this helps> mjh>> herbal remedies, "Kimberly Royston"> wrote:> > Hi, I am hoping someone can help me. I have some old herbal> recipes that I> > would like to try, but cannot seem to locate the herbs necessary to> make> > them. Wondering if the names were made up as it passed thru> generations,> > but thought with all your brillant minds might be abkle to shed> some light> > on a couple of them. Thinking they are better known by some other> common> > names. Here they are:> >> > Basswood Blossoms> > Beth Root> > Black Cherry Bark> > Buchu Leaves> > Button Snake Root> > Cheese Plant> > Fawn Breath Leaves> > Fenugreek Flowers> > Field Balsam> > Indian Turnip> > Princess Pine> > Tag Elder> > Tamarack Bark> >> >> > I know some of them sound common like the Basswood Blossoms, and> Tamarack> > Bark but I can't find any one who carries them. And the Buchu> leaves, I can> > find the concentrate but not the fresh and dried herbs. Been> looking on the> > internet and haven't had any luck finding the herbs, names, or> anything...> >> > Thanks guys>>>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any naturalremedy.> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician andto> prescribe for your own health.> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as longas> they behave themselves.> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and anyperson> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products fromlist members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner andmembers free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2002 Report Share Posted October 30, 2002 Basswood BlossomsBeth RootBlack Cherry BarkBuchu LeavesButton Snake Root possibly Wild Quinine Parthenium integrifoliumCheese PlantFawn Breath LeavesFenugreek FlowersField BalsamIndian Turnip Jack in the PulpitPrincess PineTag ElderTamarack BarkSuzi HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Hey Kim, here is what I found, hope it helps ;-) Janet - Kimberly Royston herbal remedies Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:54 PM [herbal remedies] Strange Herbs and Names Hi, I am hoping someone can help me. I have some old herbal recipes that Iwould like to try, but cannot seem to locate the herbs necessary to makethem. Wondering if the names were made up as it passed thru generations,but thought with all your brillant minds might be abkle to shed some lighton a couple of them. Thinking they are better known by some other commonnames. Here they are:Basswood Blossoms - Tilia platyphyllos or europea - common names Linden or Lime BlossomBeth Root - Trillium erectum - common names include Birth Root, Red Trillium and WakerobinBlack Cherry Bark -Prunus serotina - common names Wild Cherry Bark, Virginian Prune Buchu Leaves - Barosma betulina - Long or Short leafed varietiesButton Snake Root - Liatris spicata Cheese Plant - Galium verum - Cheese Renning, Cheese Rennet, Lady's BedstrawFawn Breath Leaves - Porteranthus trifoliata - Fawn' Breath or Bowman's RootFenugreek Flowers - Trigonelle foenum-graecum - the seeds are usedField Balsam - could be Balm of Gilead?Indian Turnip - Arisaema triphyllum - Jack-In-The-PulpitPrincess Pine - Chimaphila Umbellata - PipsissewaTag Elder - Alnus rubra - Tag Alder BarkTamarack Bark - Larix Americana - Black Larch or American Larch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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