Guest guest Posted September 20, 2002 Report Share Posted September 20, 2002 Hi Terri Lynne, I would suggest doing a liver cleanse as well as the total body cleanse. Of course, if this person is not really wanting to stop then really nothing is going to work. This has been my observations with people who smoke pot and say they wish to quit but really don't. It is my opinion that if this person is sincere and really does want to quit then he/she will have absolutely no problem with mental or physical "withdrawals". Don - Terri Lynne Pomeroy herbal remedies Friday, September 20, 2002 3:56 AM [herbal remedies] quitting pot Hi all,I have really enjoyed the posts on quitting smoking. My question issimilar. For a young person who has been smoking pot for 5 or 6 years andfeels unable to kick their reliance on the "herb", do you have anysuggestions to take away the physical craving? How about the mentaldependence?TIA,Terri Lynne Pomeroy______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2002 Report Share Posted September 20, 2002 Well, I think that a person can have a sincere desire to quit and still experience cravings. The important thing to keep asking oneself when the cravings hit is, " Do I really want to get high, knowing all the ramifications of that, more than I want to live a clean life? " Hopefully the answer will continue to be, " No. " And the other thing to remind oneself of is that the craving will not last forever. There's an old buddhist saying that if you want tea for long enough eventually you won't want tea anymore. That's the nature of cravings -- if you don't indulge in them, they pass. Also, at the moment of quitting it often helps to have a clear decision in one's mind that indicates that that was it. The decision has been made so dealing with the cravings becomes just that rather than a battle between whether or not to get high. Hope I've explained myself clearly. I have a lot of personal experience with overcoming addictions so please feel free to ask any other questions. Ann --- Donald Eitner <eitner.d wrote: > Hi Terri Lynne, > > I would suggest doing a liver cleanse as well as the total body > cleanse. Of course, if this person is not really wanting to stop then > really nothing is going to work. This has been my observations with > people who smoke pot and say they wish to quit but really don't. It is my > opinion that if this person is sincere and really does want to quit then > he/she will have absolutely no problem with mental or physical > " withdrawals " . > > Don > - > Terri Lynne Pomeroy > herbal remedies > Friday, September 20, 2002 3:56 AM > [herbal remedies] quitting pot > > > Hi all, > I have really enjoyed the posts on quitting smoking. My question is > similar. For a young person who has been smoking pot for 5 or 6 years > and > feels unable to kick their reliance on the " herb " , do you have any > suggestions to take away the physical craving? How about the mental > dependence? > > TIA, > > Terri Lynne Pomeroy > > ______________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 Marijuana is one of the most difficult drugs to quit. One thing that helps is the proverb: " The most dangerous words in the English language are, 'a little bit won't hurt'. " Just having basic information about the stuff is a big help -- most people don't know the first thing about it. A few years ago i compiled a lot of this into a pamphlet which somehow has escaped being put on my web site. Until it gets posted, you can get text-file copies from me privately. Because of the unique way this stuff lodges itself in the body, it stimulates cravings long after the last bit is smoked. Cleansing formulas are essential because of this. Also hot baths, Chaparral tea, and Eucalyptus oil help. In my own case, the only thing that really worked was the prayers of a group that wanted to see me get better. At that time i was the music department of a small Mennonite congregation in Southern Colorado. On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 04:56:48 -0600 Terri Lynne Pomeroy <tlproy wrote: > Hi all, > I have really enjoyed the posts on quitting > smoking. My question is > similar. For a young person who has been > smoking pot for 5 or 6 years and > feels unable to kick their reliance on the > " herb " , do you have any > suggestions to take away the physical craving? > How about the mental > dependence? > > TIA, > > Terri Lynne Pomeroy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 It is important with any addiction whether legal or illegal to take into account the possiblity of dual diagnosis... were the patient is self medicating an underlying mental or emotional problem ie depression, bipolar and such. This is very common and makes stopping addiction much more complicated. as always good diagnosis is always the key to success in any treatment bob --- Ann Melin <annicola wrote: > Well, I think that a person can have a sincere > desire to quit and still > experience cravings. The important thing to keep > asking oneself when the > cravings hit is, " Do I really want to get high, > knowing all the > ramifications of that, more than I want to live a > clean life? " Hopefully > the answer will continue to be, " No. " And the other > thing to remind oneself > of is that the craving will not last forever. > There's an old buddhist > saying that if you want tea for long enough > eventually you won't want tea > anymore. That's the nature of cravings -- if you > don't indulge in them, > they pass. > Also, at the moment of quitting it often helps to > have a clear decision in > one's mind that indicates that that was it. The > decision has been made so > dealing with the cravings becomes just that rather > than a battle between > whether or not to get high. > > Hope I've explained myself clearly. I have a lot of > personal experience > with overcoming addictions so please feel free to > ask any other questions. > > Ann > > --- Donald Eitner <eitner.d wrote: > > Hi Terri Lynne, > > > > I would suggest doing a liver cleanse as well > as the total body > > cleanse. Of course, if this person is not really > wanting to stop then > > really nothing is going to work. This has been my > observations with > > people who smoke pot and say they wish to quit but > really don't. It is my > > opinion that if this person is sincere and really > does want to quit then > > he/she will have absolutely no problem with mental > or physical > > " withdrawals " . > > > > Don > > - > > Terri Lynne Pomeroy > > herbal remedies > > Friday, September 20, 2002 3:56 AM > > [herbal remedies] quitting pot > > > > > > Hi all, > > I have really enjoyed the posts on quitting > smoking. My question is > > similar. For a young person who has been smoking > pot for 5 or 6 years > > and > > feels unable to kick their reliance on the > " herb " , do you have any > > suggestions to take away the physical craving? > How about the mental > > dependence? > > > > TIA, > > > > Terri Lynne Pomeroy > > > > > ______________ > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 Also, what about the question of what is going on in the person's life that they feel a need to " get away " ? What are they blocking out with smoking marijuana, wether they consciously realize it, or choose to realize it, or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 When i finally quit that stuff, i had to make arrangements with three different friends so i could go over to their houses any time a craving hit, and hang out long enough for them to talk me out of it. This was extremely difficult, and i can attest that the cravings were physical as much as mental. As it happened, 2 1/2 months after i quit, i wrenched my back out really bad and had to go to the chiropractic hospital (sorry, it doesn't exist any more) for 3 weeks. The treatment i received there definitely sped up the process of getting over the physical cravings. On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Ann Melin <annicola wrote: > Well, I think that a person can have a sincere > desire to quit and still > experience cravings. The important thing to > keep asking oneself when the > cravings hit is, " Do I really want to get high, > knowing all the > ramifications of that, more than I want to live > a clean life? " Hopefully > the answer will continue to be, " No. " And the > other thing to remind oneself > of is that the craving will not last forever. > There's an old buddhist > saying that if you want tea for long enough > eventually you won't want tea > anymore. That's the nature of cravings -- if > you don't indulge in them, > they pass. > Also, at the moment of quitting it often helps > to have a clear decision in > one's mind that indicates that that was it. The > decision has been made so > dealing with the cravings becomes just that > rather than a battle between > whether or not to get high. > > Hope I've explained myself clearly. I have a > lot of personal experience > with overcoming addictions so please feel free > to ask any other questions. > > Ann > > --- Donald Eitner wrote: > > Hi Terri Lynne, > > > > I would suggest doing a liver cleanse as > well as the total body > > cleanse. Of course, if this person is not > really wanting to stop then > > really nothing is going to work. This has > been my observations with > > people who smoke pot and say they wish to > quit but really don't. It is my > > opinion that if this person is sincere and > really does want to quit then > > he/she will have absolutely no problem with > mental or physical > > " withdrawals " . > > > > Don > > - > > Terri Lynne Pomeroy > > herbal remedies > > Friday, September 20, 2002 3:56 AM > > [herbal remedies] quitting pot > > > > > > Hi all, > > I have really enjoyed the posts on quitting > smoking. My question is > > similar. For a young person who has been > smoking pot for 5 or 6 years > > and > > feels unable to kick their reliance on the > " herb " , do you have any > > suggestions to take away the physical > craving? How about the mental > > dependence? > > > > TIA, > > > > Terri Lynne Pomeroy > > > > > ______________ > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access > for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, > visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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