Myasthenia gravis

[Guest guest]

For those who don't know what MG is here is a brief description. I would think that getting her body totally cleansed, liver cleansed, etc. I want to say maybe getting her on some nervines but heck, her nerves work fine it is just the receptor sites. The antibodies need to be regulated somehow. Maybe just doing a really good and thorough total body cleanse and changing her diet to a mucusless one may help immensely. Bob and his TCM may have some good ideas or experience with this. If not maybe give Doc a call and see what he has to say on this issue.

Don

Myasthenia Gravis Foundation

of America, Inc.

5841 Cedar Lake Rd., Suite 204

Minneapolis, MN 55416

(800) 541-5454

The voluntary muscles of the entire body are controlled by nerve impulses that arise in the brain.

These nerve impulses travel down the nerves to the place where the nerves meet the muscle fibers. Nerve

fibers do not actually connect with muscle fibers. There is a space between the nerve ending and

muscle fiber; this space is called the neuromuscular junction.

When the nerve impulse originating in the brain arrives at the nerve ending, it releases a chemical

called acetylcholine. Acetylcholine travels across the space to the muscle fiber side of the neuromuscular

junction where it attaches to many receptor sites. The muscle contracts when enough of the receptor

sites have been activated by the acetylcholine. In MG, there is as much as an 80% reduction in the number

of these receptor sites. The reduction in the number of receptor sites is caused by an antibody that

destroys or blocks the receptor site. Timely diagnosis and optimal care of

individuals affected by Myasthenia Gravis and closely related disorders and to improve

their lives through programs of patient services, public information, medical

research, professional education, advocacy and patient care.

 

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doodle bug

herbal remedies

Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:07 AM

[herbal remedies] Myasthenia gravis

 

Hi, I was wondering if someone could discuss this with me. I have a 21 yo sister who has had this for about three years. Right now she is having a really rough time. She had her thymus removed (about 2 1/2 years ago) of course that made her much worse and put her in a wheel chair for over a year. She has been on the most dreadful medications. They have even visably scared the outside if her body. I hate to think about what they have done to the inside. She is still on daily medications "to keep her alive". Supposedly if she stops taking her meds her lungs will quit working. FYI supposedly this disease keeps the nervse from talking to each other. Does anyone know of this being treated without the heavy medications. Something else rather ironic. She has been on my parents insurance as a student and is trying to get her own. After making her totally dependent on them (at least a thousand $ of meds a month) they won't cover her. She has gotten flat out refusals to cover her, which I understand is illegeal. I had better stop now. Any help would be greatly appericated. Doodles

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I have not seen a case of this before so with out

knowing what signs and symptoms, tongue and pulse I

don't have a clue what to suggest. I best guess is

that it couldn't hurt...TCM generally has good effect

in chronic illness, whether it will grow new receptor

sites or improve the effeciency of the exisiting ones

....who knows. It likely would take time to improve

receptors but would likely reduce symptoms of disease

and/or drugs until actual improvement in root problem.

bob

--- Donald Eitner <eitner.d wrote:

> For those who don't know what MG is here is a brief

> description. I would think that getting her body

> totally cleansed, liver cleansed, etc. I want to say

> maybe getting her on some nervines but heck, her

> nerves work fine it is just the receptor sites. The

> antibodies need to be regulated somehow. Maybe just

> doing a really good and thorough total body cleanse

> and changing her diet to a mucusless one may help

> immensely. Bob and his TCM may have some good ideas

> or experience with this. If not maybe give Doc a

> call and see what he has to say on this issue.

>

> Don

>

> Myasthenia Gravis Foundation

>

> of America, Inc.

>

> 5841 Cedar Lake Rd., Suite 204

>

> Minneapolis, MN 55416

>

> (800) 541-5454

>

> The voluntary muscles of the entire body are

> controlled by nerve impulses that arise in the

> brain.

>

> These nerve impulses travel down the nerves to the

> place where the nerves meet the muscle fibers. Nerve

>

> fibers do not actually connect with muscle fibers.

> There is a space between the nerve ending and

>

> muscle fiber; this space is called the neuromuscular

> junction.

>

> When the nerve impulse originating in the brain

> arrives at the nerve ending, it releases a chemical

>

> called acetylcholine. Acetylcholine travels across

> the space to the muscle fiber side of the

> neuromuscular

>

> junction where it attaches to many receptor sites.

> The muscle contracts when enough of the receptor

>

> sites have been activated by the acetylcholine. In

> MG, there is as much as an 80% reduction in the

> number

>

> of these receptor sites. The reduction in the number

> of receptor sites is caused by an antibody that

>

> destroys or blocks the receptor site. Timely

> diagnosis and optimal care of

>

> individuals affected by Myasthenia Gravis and

> closely related disorders and to improve

>

> their lives through programs of patient services,

> public information, medical

>

> research, professional education, advocacy and

> patient care.

>

> -

> doodle bug

> herbal remedies

> Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:07 AM

> [herbal remedies] Myasthenia gravis

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I was wondering if someone could discuss this

> with me. I have a 21 yo sister who has had this

> for about three years. Right now she is having a

> really rough time. She had her thymus removed

> (about 2 1/2 years ago) of course that made her much

> worse and put her in a wheel chair for over a year.

> She has been on the most dreadful medications. They

> have even visably scared the outside if her body. I

> hate to think about what they have done to the

> inside. She is still on daily medications " to keep

> her alive " . Supposedly if she stops taking her meds

> her lungs will quit working. FYI supposedly this

> disease keeps the nervse from talking to each other.

> Does anyone know of this being treated without the

> heavy medications.

>

> Something else rather ironic. She has been on my

> parents insurance as a student and is trying to get

> her own. After making her totally dependent on them

> (at least a thousand $ of meds a month) they won't

> cover her. She has gotten flat out refusals to

> cover her, which I understand is illegeal. I had

> better stop now. Any help would be greatly

> appericated.

>

> Doodles

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

> News - Today's headlines

>

[Guest guest]

TCM is Traditional and nervines are a group of herbs that have a specific action for nerves (feeding, toning, calming, etc.) I think the total body cleanse and liver would help. I do wish you the best of luck and your sister especially. Whatever you do, don't give up!

 

Don

 

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doodle bug

herbal remedies

Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:37 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Myasthenia gravis

 

I can tell you what she is like w/o meds (or when they don't work). She looks like she has had a stoke. She loses control of muscles. The longer off the meds the more muscles invovled. It usually strats on one side of her face. It just looks like it is going to fall off. Usually the same arm is next after that it is usually the same leg, but sometimes is the other side of her body. She can't talk or it is very dofficult for to speak. As of yet she has not lost controll of her "lower" functions- breathing, holding her bladder or bms. The only problem with the info is they are not sure it is the nerve receptors. They think it could be the fluid and that the recptor die because they are not used. There is another thoery on this, but I'm not sure what it is. I don't know if it makes a difference, but it has a much higher occurence in women then men. she has also had problems w/ kidney stones and ovarian cysts, so I think a lot of her body is invovled. I'm going to start a total cleanse here in the few weeks and I'm going to try to get her to do it with me. What is TCM and nervines?

 

 

News - Today's headlines Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Hey Doodle bug!

I'm not up on this - but I am posting a description for the rest of the members for you.Suzi

Myasthenia gravis: Most often, an acquired disorder that results in fatiguable muscle weakness, made worse by activity and improved with rest. It results from an autoimmune attack against the nerve-muscle junction. Rarely, other forms of the illness are caused by architectural changes of the nerve-muscle junction.

doodle bug wrote:

 

Hi, I was wondering if someone could discuss this with me. I have a 21 yo sister who has had this for about three years. Right now she is having a really rough time. She had her thymus removed (about 2 1/2 years ago) of course that made her much worse and put her in a wheel chair for over a year. She has been on the most dreadful medications. They have even visably scared the outside if her body. I hate to think about what they have done to the inside. She is still on daily medications "to keep her alive". Supposedly if she stops taking her meds her lungs will quit working. FYI supposedly this disease keeps the nervse from talking to each other. Does anyone know of this being treated without the heavy medications. Something else rather ironic. She has been on my parents insurance as a student and is trying to get her own. After making her totally dependent on them (at least a thousand $ of meds a month) they won't cover her. She has gotten flat out refusals to cover her, which I understand is illegeal. I had better stop now. Any help would be greatly appericated. Doodles

 

 

News - Today's headlines Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Dear Himanshu,

 

Namaste.

 

Thank you for your email.

 

Medical Background:

Myasthenia gravis (MG) is a chronic autoimmune

disorder that results in progressive skeletal muscle

weakness. Skeletal muscles are primarily muscle fibers

that contain bands or striations (striated muscles)

that are connected to bone. MG causes rapid fatigue

(fatigability) and loss of strength upon exertion that

improves after rest.

 

In early stages, myasthenia gravis primarily affects

muscles that control eye movement (extraocular

muscles) and those that control facial expression,

chewing, and swallowing. If untreated, the disorder

may affect muscles that control breathing

(respiration), causing acute respiratory failure.

 

Types

Myasthenia gravis can be classified according to which

skeletal muscles are affected. Within a year of onset,

approximately 85–90% of patients develop generalized

myasthenia gravis, which is characterized by weakness

in the trunk, arms, and legs.

 

About 10–15% of patients have weakness only in muscles

that control eye movement. This type is called ocular

myasthenia gravis.

 

Other types of MG include congenital, which is an

inherited condition caused by genetic defect, and

transient neonatal, which occurs in infants born to

mothers who have MG. Congenital MG develops at or

shortly after birth and causes generalized symptoms.

 

Transient neonatal MG is a temporary condition that

develops in 10–20% of infants born to mothers who have

MG. Transient neonatal MG is caused by circulation of

the mother’s antibodies through the placenta and it

lasts as long as the mother’s antibodies remain in the

infant (usually a few weeks after birth).

 

Incidence and Prevalence

Myasthenia gravis affects approximately 2 out of every

100,000 people and can occur at any age. It is most

common in women between the ages of 18 and 25. In men,

the condition usually develops between 60 and 80 years

of age.

 

Causes and Risk Factors

 

MG usually is caused by a malfunction of the immune

system. The causative factor is unknown, but the

disorder may have a genetic link. Causes include a

genetic defect, which results in congenital MG, and

the circulation of maternal antibodies through the

placenta, which result in transient neonatal MG.

 

Acetylcholine (ACh) is a neurotransmitter that is

involved in the transfer of information to muscle

tissue. In myasthenia gravis, cells that bind to other

cells to neutralize or destroy them (called

antibodies) destroy acetylcholine receptor sites

(AChR) in areas of muscle tissue that receive nerve

impulses (called neuromuscular junctions), preventing

nerve impulses from reaching the muscles. This results

in weakness and rapid fatigue in affected muscles.

 

MG may be associated with other autoimmune diseases.

Patients with family members who suffer from disorders

such as rheumatoid arthritis, scleroderma, and lupus

may have an increased risk for myasthenia gravis.

 

The thymus is an organ that produces cells involved in

immune responses. It is located below the larynx and

above the heart. Approximately 15% of MG patients have

a tumor of the thymus (thymoma) and 60–80% have

abnormal enlargement (hyperplasia) of the thymus.

 

Pranic Healing:

 

Source - Advanced Pranic Healing by Master Choa Kok

Sui.

 

1. Invoke and scan before, during and after

treatment.

 

2. Instruct the patient how to do proper pranic

breathing. Have patient do 12 cycles before start of

treatment and continue pranic breathing during

treatment.

 

3. General sweeping several times.

 

4. Localized thorough sweeping on the front, sides

and back of the lungs. Energize the back of the lungs

directly with LWG, LWO then LWR. When energizing with

O, point your fingers away from the patient's head.

 

5. Localized thorough sweeping on the basic chakra

alternately with LWG and LWO. Energize with LWR.

 

6. Localized thorough sweeping on the arms and legs

with emphasis on their minor chakras alternately with

LWG and LWO. Energize the minor chakras of the arms

and legs with LWR.

 

7. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back

heart chakra. Energize the heart chakra through the

back heart chakra with LWG, and more of ordinary LWV.

Visualize the heart chakra normalizing, becoming

bigger and brighter.

 

8. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back

solar plexus chakra and the liver. Energize the solar

plexus chakra with LWG then with ordinary LWV.

 

For experienced advanced pranic healers:

Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back

solar plexus chakra and on the liver alternately with

LWG and LWO. Energize the solar plexus chakra with

LWB, LWG then LWO.

 

9. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back

spleen chakra with LWG. Energize the spleen with LWG

then with ordinary LWV. This has to be done with

caution.

 

10. Localized thorough sweeping on the kidneys

alternately with LWG and LWO. Energize them with LWR.

 

11. Localized thorough sweeping on the meng mein

chakra.

 

12. Localized thorough sweeping on the throat chakra

and ajna chakra. Energize them with LWG then with

more of ordinary LWV.

 

While energizing the ajna chakra with LWV,

simultaneously, gently but firmly instruct the ajna

chakra to normalize and harmonize all the other

chakras and organs.

 

13. Stabilize and release projected pranic energy.

 

14. Repeat treatment three times per week for as long

as necessary.

 

Advice the patient to -

 

1. practice daily the Meditation on Twin Hearts

properly regularly.

 

2. practice loving kindness, forgiveness and mercy.

 

3. avoid unecessary stress; negative activities,

negative thoughts, negative emotions and negative

environment.

 

These are all important to facilitate proper healing.

 

Love,

 

Marilette

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Himanshu Goyal <rain_abundance wrote:

> Dear Marilette,

> Namaste.

>

> What is the appropiate protocol for myasthenia

> gravis?

> Does autoimmune ailment protocol apply to it?

> What is the cause of this kind of diseases?

> At one point in APH book it is mentioned not to

> stabilise after energizing back heart chakra because

> pranic congestion or too much energy can precipitate

> in cardiac arrest. But at other points we are

> stabilizing it.

>

> If the aura of patient is very dirty etherically ,

> can we sweep it with EV in case of APH patients to

> reduce the number of sweepings?

> I have completed till Pranic crystal Healing.

>

> Thank you for your blessings , help and support.

> Himanshu

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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complement it. If symptoms persist or the ailment is severe, please consult

immediately a medical doctor and a Certified Pranic Healer . ~ Master Choa Kok

Sui

 

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