Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Sometimes doctors tend to put their heads in the sand. Or maybe some other low place. Actually they don't have many treatments for viral conditions, and don't want to admit that. Have you tried any herbs so far? The best antiviral herbs in my experience have been Golden Seal, Lobelia, and Echinacea. I've also seen great success with megadoses of Vitamin C. But i'd want to know what you've tried first before making any recommendations. On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:17:37 -0000 lavenderjule <jms370 wrote: > I know there have been a few previous posts on > this, but wondered if > anyone has had success treating " viral " > problems with herbs lately. > I'm in upstate NY, where we do have > confirmations of West Nile in > animals, but from what I'm hearing, none of the > primary doctors are > testing for it in humans. I've been sick for a > month with all the > symptoms (a couple weeks after getting lots of > bites), and my doctor > acts as if I'm a hypochondriac for asking about > west nile, even though > we have mega birds dying with it, and now some > horses with it. I > think it's pretty strange that the medical > establishment is acting as > if it doesn't exist up here. Anyway, they say > that whatever is ailing > me is " viral " , and I can't seem to kick it. I'm > to the point where I'm > thinking of taking a leave of absence from work > because I'm so tired > and achey constantly. Any thoughts? > Thank > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 I've tried echinacea (tincture) still taking it, and I just started with the goldenseal last night. I've had some success using goldenseal for my rabbit's snuffles, so had some on hand. I had no idea it was so bitter - no wonder the poor rabbit hates it! I tend to like to use my herbs in teas, but maybe I'm not getting a high enough dosage per day that way. What dosage would be best for the goldenseal? I've never tried Lobelia for anything. Thank you !! Julie herbal remedies, " Michael Riversong " <rivedu@e...> wrote: > Sometimes doctors tend to put their heads in the sand. Or maybe some other > low place. Actually they don't have many treatments for viral conditions, and > don't want to admit that. > > Have you tried any herbs so far? > > The best antiviral herbs in my experience have been Golden Seal, Lobelia, and > Echinacea. I've also seen great success with megadoses of Vitamin C. But i'd > want to know what you've tried first before making any recommendations. > > On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:17:37 -0000 lavenderjule <jms370@a...> wrote: > > > I know there have been a few previous posts on> > this, but wondered if > > anyone has had success treating " viral " > > problems with herbs lately. > > I'm in upstate NY, where we do have > > confirmations of West Nile in > > animals, but from what I'm hearing, none of the > > primary doctors are > > testing for it in humans. I've been sick for a > > month with all the > > symptoms (a couple weeks after getting lots of > > bites), and my doctor > > acts as if I'm a hypochondriac for asking about > > west nile, even though > > we have mega birds dying with it, and now some > > horses with it. I > > think it's pretty strange that the medical > > establishment is acting as > > if it doesn't exist up here. Anyway, they say > > that whatever is ailing > > me is " viral " , and I can't seem to kick it. I'm > > to the point where I'm > > thinking of taking a leave of absence from work > > because I'm so tired > > and achey constantly. Any thoughts? > > Tha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 First, echinacea should be taken two days and then take a day off. Otherwise it loses its effectiveness. Golden Seal is, unfortunately, best taken orally as straight powder. The horrible taste actually contributes to its effectiveness somehow, according to tradition. You can make a tea from the roots and/or leaves, but it will still be bitter, and not quite as effective. One caution -- never take more than a gram in a day. Nobody's been killed by it, but the racing heart that an overdose causes can be frightening. Lobelia is something i'm not as experienced with either. But it is powerful stuff. Generally a tea -- about 1/2 teaspoon per cup. It has an interesting peppery taste. Don't drive after drinking it -- some people get a little reaction from it. On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 04:32:10 -0000 lavenderjule <jms370 wrote: > I've tried echinacea (tincture) still taking > it, and I just started > with the goldenseal last night. I've had some > success using goldenseal > for my rabbit's snuffles, so had some on hand. > I had no idea it was > so bitter - no wonder the poor rabbit hates it! > I tend to like to use > my herbs in teas, but maybe I'm not getting a > high enough dosage per > day that way. What dosage would be best for > the goldenseal? I've > never tried Lobelia for anything. > Thank you !! > Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Neem, oil of oregano, garlic come to mind first. Suzi lavenderjule wrote: I know there have been a few previous posts on this, but wondered if anyone has had success treating "viral" problems with herbs lately. I'm in upstate NY, where we do have confirmations of West Nile in animals, but from what I'm hearing, none of the primary doctors are testing for it in humans. I've been sick for a month with all the symptoms (a couple weeks after getting lots of bites), and my doctor acts as if I'm a hypochondriac for asking about west nile, even though we have mega birds dying with it, and now some horses with it. I think it's pretty strange that the medical establishment is acting as if it doesn't exist up here. Anyway, they say that whatever is ailing me is "viral", and I can't seem to kick it. I'm to the point where I'm thinking of taking a leave of absence from work because I'm so tired and achey constantly. Any thoughts? Thank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 In all fairness, I must say that I asked my doc about WN today and he explained that they can't test for it until someone actually develops encephalitis. Plus, he doesn't think I would be sick for 5 weeks because of it. He thinks it would have only given me flu-like symptoms for a few days. I go to a group of doctors, never know which one you'll see. I saw the good one today (I think), and he didn't brush me off the way the last one did. He ordered more blood tests. Symptoms are extreme fatigue, muscle pain, joint pain, headaches. All symptoms are constant, don't go away for a moment, except that the headache is sometimes better or worse. herbal remedies, krista t <bongomodel> wrote: > > --- krista t <bongomodel> wrote: > Sorry about last post > > > Hi lavenderjule, > > > > Maybe you should find a new doctor that listens to > > his/her patients and have he/she test you for this. > > > > Krista > > > > > > --- Donald Eitner <eitner.d@m...> wrote: > > > Hey Julie, > > > > > > What symptoms do you have exactly? I am not > > too > > > current on WN virus and its effect on people as I > > > don't follow the news much. > > > > > > Don > > > - > > > lavenderjule > > > herbal remedies > > > Monday, September 02, 2002 8:17 PM > > > [herbal remedies] West Nile > > > > > > > > > I know there have been a few previous posts on > > > this, but wondered if > > > anyone has had success treating " viral " problems > > > with herbs lately. > > > I'm in upstate NY, where we do have > > confirmations > > > of West Nile in > > > animals, but from what I'm hearing, none of the > > > primary doctors are > > > testing for it in humans. I've been sick for a > > > month with all the > > > symptoms (a couple weeks after getting lots of > > > bites), and my doctor > > > acts as if I'm a hypochondriac for asking about > > > west nile, even though > > > we have mega birds dying with it, and now some > > > horses with it. I > > > think it's pretty strange that the medical > > > establishment is acting as > > > if it doesn't exist up here. Anyway, they say > > > that whatever is ailing > > > me is " viral " , and I can't seem to kick it. I'm > > to > > > the point where I'm > > > thinking of taking a leave of absence from work > > > because I'm so tired > > > and achey constantly. Any thoughts? > > > Thank > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Ones best defense is to change ones diet from a predominantly acid one to a more alkaline one. Virii and bacteria just love an acid environment and don't fare so well in an alkaline environment. Don - lavenderjule herbal remedies Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:12 PM [herbal remedies] Re: West Nile In all fairness, I must say that I asked my doc about WN today and he explained that they can't test for it until someone actually develops encephalitis. Plus, he doesn't think I would be sick for 5 weeks because of it. He thinks it would have only given me flu-like symptoms for a few days.I go to a group of doctors, never know which one you'll see. I saw the good one today (I think), and he didn't brush me off the way the last one did. He ordered more blood tests. Symptoms are extreme fatigue, muscle pain, joint pain, headaches. All symptoms are constant, don't go away for a moment, except that the headache is sometimes better or worse. herbal remedies, krista t <bongomodel> wrote:> > --- krista t <bongomodel> wrote:> Sorry about last post> > > Hi lavenderjule,> > > > Maybe you should find a new doctor that listens to> > his/her patients and have he/she test you for this.> > > > Krista> > > > > > --- Donald Eitner <eitner.d@m...> wrote:> > > Hey Julie,> > > > > > What symptoms do you have exactly? I am not> > too> > > current on WN virus and its effect on people as I> > > don't follow the news much.> > > > > > Don> > > - > > > lavenderjule > > > herbal remedies > > > Monday, September 02, 2002 8:17 PM> > > [herbal remedies] West Nile> > > > > > > > > I know there have been a few previous posts on> > > this, but wondered if > > > anyone has had success treating "viral" problems> > > with herbs lately. > > > I'm in upstate NY, where we do have> > confirmations> > > of West Nile in > > > animals, but from what I'm hearing, none of the> > > primary doctors are > > > testing for it in humans. I've been sick for a> > > month with all the > > > symptoms (a couple weeks after getting lots of> > > bites), and my doctor > > > acts as if I'm a hypochondriac for asking about> > > west nile, even though > > > we have mega birds dying with it, and now some> > > horses with it. I > > > think it's pretty strange that the medical> > > establishment is acting as > > > if it doesn't exist up here. Anyway, they say> > > that whatever is ailing > > > me is "viral", and I can't seem to kick it. I'm> > to> > > the point where I'm > > > thinking of taking a leave of absence from work> > > because I'm so tired > > > and achey constantly. Any thoughts? > > > Thank > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Hi Julie, Try the total body cleanse. Also try some Essential Oil of Oregano, Mountain Savory, or Rosemary CT cineole using no more than 2-3 drops 3 times per day. Just make sure that you use top quality oils. Make certain that they are certified organic. Don - lavenderjule herbal remedies Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:02 PM [herbal remedies] Re: West Nile Thanks. I think my diet is more alkaline than a lot of people. I've been pretty conscious of trying to have a whole-food diet for years, although I do cheat at times. Now the doc is talking auto-immune problems and testing for inflammation. herbal remedies, "Donald Eitner" <eitner.d@m...> wrote:> Ones best defense is to change ones diet from a predominantly acid one to a more alkaline one. Virii and bacteria just love an acid environment and don't fare so well in an alkaline environment.> > Don> - > lavenderjule > herbal remedies > Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:12 PM> [herbal remedies] Re: West Nile> > > In all fairness, I must say that I asked my doc about WN today and he > explained that they can't test for it until someone actually develops > encephalitis. Plus, he doesn't think I would be sick for 5 weeks > because of it. He thinks it would have only given me flu-like symptoms > for a few days.> > I go to a group of doctors, never know which one you'll see. I saw > the good one today (I think), and he didn't brush me off the way the > last one did. He ordered more blood tests. Symptoms are extreme > fatigue, muscle pain, joint pain, headaches. All symptoms are > constant, don't go away for a moment, except that the headache is > sometimes better or worse. > > > > > > > herbal remedies, krista t <bongomodel> wrote:> > > > --- krista t <bongomodel> wrote:> > Sorry about last post> > > > > Hi lavenderjule,> > > > > > Maybe you should find a new doctor that listens to> > > his/her patients and have he/she test you for this.> > > > > > Krista> > > > > > > > > --- Donald Eitner <eitner.d@m...> wrote:> > > > Hey Julie,> > > > > > > > What symptoms do you have exactly? I am not> > > too> > > > current on WN virus and its effect on people as I> > > > don't follow the news much.> > > > > > > > Don> > > > - > > > > lavenderjule > > > > herbal remedies > > > > Monday, September 02, 2002 8:17 PM> > > > [herbal remedies] West Nile> > > > > > > > > > > > I know there have been a few previous posts on> > > > this, but wondered if > > > > anyone has had success treating "viral" problems> > > > with herbs lately. > > > > I'm in upstate NY, where we do have> > > confirmations> > > > of West Nile in > > > > animals, but from what I'm hearing, none of the> > > > primary doctors are > > > > testing for it in humans. I've been sick for a> > > > month with all the > > > > symptoms (a couple weeks after getting lots of> > > > bites), and my doctor > > > > acts as if I'm a hypochondriac for asking about> > > > west nile, even though > > > > we have mega birds dying with it, and now some> > > > horses with it. I > > > > think it's pretty strange that the medical> > > > establishment is acting as > > > > if it doesn't exist up here. Anyway, they say> > > > that whatever is ailing > > > > me is "viral", and I can't seem to kick it. I'm> > > to> > > > the point where I'm > > > > thinking of taking a leave of absence from work> > > > because I'm so tired > > > > and achey constantly. Any thoughts? > > > > Thank > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 Dear Lavenderjule: I have a signature herbal tea that may be just the thing for you. Email me privately and we can discuss it. Kathryn. My email address is: kelouisehhh --- lavenderjule <jms370 wrote: > In all fairness, I must say that I asked my doc > about WN today and he > explained that they can't test for it until someone > actually develops > encephalitis. Plus, he doesn't think I would be > sick for 5 weeks > because of it. He thinks it would have only given me > flu-like symptoms > for a few days. > > I go to a group of doctors, never know which one > you'll see. I saw > the good one today (I think), and he didn't brush me > off the way the > last one did. He ordered more blood tests. > Symptoms are extreme > fatigue, muscle pain, joint pain, headaches. All > symptoms are > constant, don't go away for a moment, except that > the headache is > sometimes better or worse. herbal remedies, krista t > <bongomodel> wrote: > > > > --- krista t <bongomodel> wrote: > > Sorry about last post > > > > > Hi lavenderjule, > > > > > > Maybe you should find a new doctor that listens > to > > > his/her patients and have he/she test you for > this. > > > > > > Krista > > > > > > > > > --- Donald Eitner <eitner.d@m...> wrote: > > > > Hey Julie, > > > > > > > > What symptoms do you have exactly? I am > not > > > too > > > > current on WN virus and its effect on people > as I > > > > don't follow the news much. > > > > > > > > Don > > > > - > > > > lavenderjule > > > > herbal remedies > > > > Monday, September 02, 2002 8:17 PM > > > > [herbal remedies] West Nile > > > > > > > > > > > > I know there have been a few previous posts > on > > > > this, but wondered if > > > > anyone has had success treating " viral " > problems > > > > with herbs lately. > > > > I'm in upstate NY, where we do have > > > confirmations > > > > of West Nile in > > > > animals, but from what I'm hearing, none of > the > > > > primary doctors are > > > > testing for it in humans. I've been sick > for a > > > > month with all the > > > > symptoms (a couple weeks after getting lots > of > > > > bites), and my doctor > > > > acts as if I'm a hypochondriac for asking > about > > > > west nile, even though > > > > we have mega birds dying with it, and now > some > > > > horses with it. I > > > > think it's pretty strange that the medical > > > > establishment is acting as > > > > if it doesn't exist up here. Anyway, they > say > > > > that whatever is ailing > > > > me is " viral " , and I can't seem to kick it. > I'm > > > to > > > > the point where I'm > > > > thinking of taking a leave of absence from > work > > > > because I'm so tired > > > > and achey constantly. Any thoughts? > > > > Thank > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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