Hives problem

September 3, 2002

I have not had any changes in the materials I where for the past couple of years

(cant really offord new clothes and I like the ones I go), it was last winter

that they stoped, then they just started back up recently (summer) and I

diffinatly have not had any changes in clothing around either of those times.

Sometimes it is worse in the winter, but usually it is just as bad no matter

what time of year. I get them all day long if I dont take the medicine, and

usually they are just as bad in the day as they are at night, but since they

came back this time they are worse at night, its like the medicine doesnt work

as well if I take it before bed now whereas I used to always take it before bed

and it worked fine before. The one time when it is noticably worse is if I have

a cold of flu or am sick in any way (had a kidney infection once), but I have

been afficiantly avoiding getting sick by not drinking the tap water so I have

not really been sick for quite some time now. I eat

so much garlic, I cant imagin how anything could grow inside me lol (I take

asidopholus milk to renew my good bacteria).

I have gone over it a million times, but I just can not figure out anything I

did different before they stoped or before they started again, it was just kind

of spontaious; my life is relitively unaventful and has very little change in

it.

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Debra-ann W. Nester

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>Message: 2

> Sun, 1 Sep 2002 19:02:03 -0700 (PDT)

> Suzanne Nottmeier <suziesgoats

>Re: Re: hives problem

>

>Could your hives be " material " i.e. cotton, polyester, flannel, wool, etc..?

have you noticed certain clothes activate it? More in winter or summer, etc

>Suzi

>

>Message: 11

> Mon, 2 Sep 2002 06:59:13 -0700

> " Donald Eitner " <eitner.d

>Re: Re: hives problem

>

>Debra-ann,

>

> Do you have these hives all day long? Do you suffer from the all year long?

You say they are worse at night, are they there during the day as well? Is there

certain times of the year that you seem to get them more than others? If so

which times of the year?

>

>Don

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September 3, 2002

Since you mentioned that they are worse around bedtimes, I wondered if

you might have a dust mite allergy? I do, and my acne and rashes

practically disappeared after I learned to change my pillowcase very,

very often. Too bad I didn't figure it out years ealier. Detergent

allergies can do that too, although I'm sure you've thought of that

already. Just a thought ..

Julie

herbal remedies, " Donald Eitner " <eitner.d@m...> wrote:

> Debra-ann,

>

> Do you have these hives all day long? Do you suffer from the all

year long? You say they are worse at night, are they there during the

day as well? Is there certain times of the year that you seem to get

them more than others? If so which times of the year?

>

> Don

> -

> Debra-ann W. Nester

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, September 01, 2002 6:10 PM

> [herbal remedies] Re: hives problem

>

> My diet has varied thought they years, there are only a few things

I dont eat right now, but when I as young I was put on a food

elimination diet where I was only alowed to eat one thing for a month.

When I was eating noting but pees for a month my hives seemed to slow

a little but then came back bad again (they do that often anyhow so it

probably was not related to the pees) same thing happened with string

beens and bannanas, but the hives always came back bad even when just

eating those foods, suffice to say can stand pees or stringbeens now

lol. As far as what I drink, I usually just drink bottled water (the

local tap water gets me, and many others here, very sick). I live

here in Arizona, but have lived in New Mexico and California as well

as other locations when I was younger, the hives do not seem to change

if I am living in different locations. Like I said, I can not figure

anything different between when I have the hives and when I dont;

however, I have noticed that

> this time that I have them, they are worst at night (ie. about 1

hr before I got to bed till about an hr after I get up) since they

start before I get into bed, it wouldnt seem to be my bedding, plus I

washed all my bedding after they started acting up just to make sure.

My dad thought that they where because of my hate for my mom (verbaly

abused me), but it just doesnt ring with me as true, and I have worked

on that aspect of my life (just in case) a lot with no obvious change

in the hives.

> ---

> Debra-ann W. Nester

> kingman-info@l...

>

> > Sun, 1 Sep 2002 07:26:29 -0700

> > " Donald Eitner " <eitner.d@m...>

> >Re: Hives problem

> >

> >Hi Debra-ann

> >

> > My questions are: What does your diet consist of? What do

you eat on a daily basis? What do you drink? What part of the country

do you live in? These are good for starters.

> >

> >Don

> >

>

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September 3, 2002

I don't know if this would pertain to you, but think about it.

I had a neighbor that hives all of the time too. She had a dentist remove all of her fillings, as many were the old type. The hives are now gone for good!

Pat

September 3, 2002

For dust mites, one remedy is to simply vacuum out the bedding once a month.

First time i tried this, it was really surprising how much came out. You have

to use a very powerful model, such as a Kirby or a Hoover. Don't even waste

the time with a lesser one.

A few people get hives, oddly enough, from Vitamin E. If the source is

chemical or otherwise not natural (rancid oil for example) this can happen.

Check the labels carefully, and switch brands if you're having this problem.

I've done that a couple of times, and things cleared up within 2 days.

On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 04:26:50 -0000 lavenderjule <jms370 wrote:

> Since you mentioned that they are worse around

> bedtimes, I wondered if

> you might have a dust mite allergy? I do, and

> my acne and rashes

> practically disappeared after I learned to

> change my pillowcase very,

> very often. Too bad I didn't figure it out

> years ealier. Detergent

> allergies can do that too, although I'm sure

> you've thought of that

> already. Just a thought ..

> Julie

>

September 4, 2002

Hi Debra-ann,

I would suggest that you do a total body cleanse. The files can be found in the files section. I think that this might remedy part if not all of your problem. Hives are an allergic reaction to a food or chemical. If our bodies are toxic or getting plugged up with mucus (which leads us to toxicity due to our tissues and organs getting plugged then our immune system gets seriously compromised. Cleansing ones body out and working towards cleaning out the mucus that plugs us up allows these tissue, organs, and systems to begin working properly again. Our bodies will attempt to eliminate toxins and metabolic by-products anyway it can and if it finds these tissues, organs, and systems not functioning the way they should it will attempt other ways of elimination which usually result in toxic blood and really bad skin problems. This is why it is important to limit the amount of acid producing foods that one eats such as: meat proteins, dairy, wheat, pre-processed foods, fats, and of course junk foods. One also needs to cut out sodas, coffee, teas or at least seriously cut down on. Our bodies need to be more alkaline which entails eating organic fruits and vegetables and any grains you can find that our wonderful bio-chemists haven't terrorized with their gene manipulation. Beans are good as well. This is just my $0.02 worth to coin someone else phrase.

Don

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Debra-ann W. Nester

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Monday, September 02, 2002 8:08 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: Hives problem

I have not had any changes in the materials I where for the past couple of years (cant really offord new clothes and I like the ones I go), it was last winter that they stoped, then they just started back up recently (summer) and I diffinatly have not had any changes in clothing around either of those times. Sometimes it is worse in the winter, but usually it is just as bad no matter what time of year. I get them all day long if I dont take the medicine, and usually they are just as bad in the day as they are at night, but since they came back this time they are worse at night, its like the medicine doesnt work as well if I take it before bed now whereas I used to always take it before bed and it worked fine before. The one time when it is noticably worse is if I have a cold of flu or am sick in any way (had a kidney infection once), but I have been afficiantly avoiding getting sick by not drinking the tap water so I have not really been sick for quite some time now. I eat so much garlic, I cant imagin how anything could grow inside me lol (I take asidopholus milk to renew my good bacteria).I have gone over it a million times, but I just can not figure out anything I did different before they stoped or before they started again, it was just kind of spontaious; my life is relitively unaventful and has very little change in it.---Debra-ann W. Nesterkingman-infoMessage: 2> Sun, 1 Sep 2002 19:02:03 -0700 (PDT)> Suzanne Nottmeier <suziesgoats>Re: Re: hives problem>>>Could your hives be "material" i.e. cotton, polyester, flannel, wool, etc..? have you noticed certain clothes activate it? More in winter or summer, etc>Suzi>>Message: 11> Mon, 2 Sep 2002 06:59:13 -0700> "Donald Eitner" <eitner.d>Re: Re: hives problem>>Debra-ann,>> Do you have these hives all day long? Do you suffer from the all year long? You say they are worse at night, are they there during the day as well? Is there certain times of the year that you seem to get them more than others? If so which times of the year?>>Don_Communicate with others using Lycos Mail for FREE!http://mail.lycos.com Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

September 4, 2002

> This

> is why it is important to limit the amount of acid producing foods that one

eats such as: meat proteins, >dairy, wheat,

Maybe in a cleansing stage only. Natives studied by Weston Price

demonstrated great health, and most of them had diets that were rich in

animal foods. Important to note that they regularly included organ meats

-- they are especially rich in nutrients that other parts of animals

aren't. I think glandular and organ extracts are beneficial because of

that, in part. They also consumed some of animal foods in their raw

form. I notice that eating raw meat, fish, and eggs is easier on my

system. I get rashes/hives (not sure which) often when I eat cooked

animal foods.

> Our bodies need to be more

> alkaline which entails eating organic fruits and vegetables and any grains

I've read that grains are acid forming. Is that not true?

> Beans are good as well.

It's all very individual. E.g. I can't tolerate plants that are rich in

starchy and sugary carbs, and beans are some of them.

Roman

September 4, 2002

Roman,

I do not and will not pretend to tell anyone how to eat or what to eat. I only offer what is proven and based in fact. Man is not and never was meant to be a meat eater. 30 feet of alimentary canal attest to this fact as do the teeth. I won't argue or belabor the point with anyone either. If anyone wishes to consume dead food that is their perogative. If they desire to consume processed dead animal parts, that too is their perogative. If anyone wishes to believe that they are healthy and surviving extremely well living on a dead diet, this is great and I am very happy for them. I only offer my advice in aiding anyone who wishes to cleanse their body and hopefully heal themselves in the process. And if someone wishes to go through the process of cleansing their body why go back to adding all the poisons back in again?

I will rephrase this and state that grains in moderation, as our bodies need the fiber, for they are acid forming as well but do not create the toxins that eating dead animals do.

Stay away from wheat, processed grains, and white rice. Quinoa is an excellent grain and the only one that is a complete protein.

Legumes are a very good source of proteins and carbohydrates but should be used in moderation.

Yes, it is quite individual, and one must find what works best for them.

Now having stated and restated all of this I will say that everything in this universe is relative anyway so why nitpick?

You are either part of the solution or part of the problem. Which side of the fence do you sit on?

Don

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Roman

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Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:09 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Hives problem

> This> is why it is important to limit the amount of acid producing foods that one eats such as: meat proteins, >dairy, wheat, Maybe in a cleansing stage only. Natives studied by Weston Pricedemonstrated great health, and most of them had diets that were rich inanimal foods. Important to note that they regularly included organ meats-- they are especially rich in nutrients that other parts of animalsaren't. I think glandular and organ extracts are beneficial because ofthat, in part. They also consumed some of animal foods in their rawform. I notice that eating raw meat, fish, and eggs is easier on mysystem. I get rashes/hives (not sure which) often when I eat cookedanimal foods.> Our bodies need to be more> alkaline which entails eating organic fruits and vegetables and any grainsI've read that grains are acid forming. Is that not true?> Beans are good as well. It's all very individual. E.g. I can't tolerate plants that are rich instarchy and sugary carbs, and beans are some of them.RomanFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

September 6, 2002

I will try to reply to each persons points in order.

Julie: As soon as I noticed that conections I cleaned all the pillows, blankets,

sheets, etc., but actually they usually come out about an hour before I even

step foot into the bedroom, also I have not changed detergence in over a year

(way before they started up again).

Pat: I do have fillings, and it would be nice if I could afford to have them

removed and replaced with the safe kind, but I have had hives for years before I

ever had any fillings.

Don: Probably a good idea, I will have to look at that file later on tonight.

Roman: Yes I would tend to agree that it does depend on the person, or probably

more acuratly the persons blood type (ie. the book Eat Right For Your Blood

Type). I really dont eat a lot of meats or dairy myself.

I have a tendency to think it is more psychosomatic as I really cant find

anything (other then asprin and penisilin which I totally avoid) that I am

alergic to, but dont psychosomatic illnesses have a triger (sort of like

phobias)? So I guess the question is; whats the triger. If I knew what the

triger was, I do have a friend who could help me get over it, but right now I am

at a compleat loss for a triger. Anyhow, I know you have all been trying to

help me find that triger, and I really apriciate it, I just hope I didnt get too

much of a arguement started in the group. Anyhow, thanks for all the help, I

guess I will have to just keep trying to figure it out till I stumble upon the

answer lol.

Debra-ann

Tue, 03 Sep 2002 04:26:50 -0000

" lavenderjule " <jms370

Re: hives problem

Since you mentioned that they are worse around bedtimes, I wondered if

you might have a dust mite allergy? I do, and my acne and rashes

practically disappeared after I learned to change my pillowcase very,

very often. Too bad I didn't figure it out years ealier. Detergent

allergies can do that too, although I'm sure you've thought of that

already. Just a thought ..

Julie

Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:34:05 -0600

" Patricia Forbes " <Pat4bs

Re: Re: Hives problem

I don't know if this would pertain to you, but think about it.

I had a neighbor that hives all of the time too. She had a dentist

remove all of her fillings, as many were the old type. The hives are now gone

for good!

Pat

Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT)

Suzanne Nottmeier <suziesgoats

Re: Re: Hives problem

....

Donald Eitner wrote:Hi Debra-ann, I would suggest that you

do a total body cleanse. The files can be found in the files section.

....

Don

Message: 9

Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:09:21 -0700

Roman <r_rom

Re: Re: Hives problem

> This

> is why it is important to limit the amount of acid producing foods

that one eats such as: meat proteins, >dairy, wheat,