Digest Number 1487

[Guest guest]

Doc wrote:

At this time the herb which is

causing the most problems for herbal companies is

Comfrey, and you can

rest assured that if you promote products which

contain Comfrey you'll

be hit even though there are no " laws " yet which state

it is illegal.

The problem the FDA and the pharmaceuticals have with

this, is that the

stuff will grow in just about ever state there is and

they'd have to

nuke 3/4's of America to stop us from using it. I

think it is a great

idea for you to start up your own company and produce

your own products

and I wish you all the best. The more independent

Herbal Manufacturing

businesses out there, the better I like it and the

better chance we all

have of winning out against the multinational

pbarmaceuticals.

 

--Yes, it's a shame about the uproar over comfrey.

This goes back to the other conversation here on the

list regarding standardization and separating

constituents from herbs. I dunno...I've used comfrey

with amazing results and have never heard any negative

stories on doing so. Guess it's gotta be something the

meanies have to pick on;) In any case, thanks for the

kind words, and be sure to let us know when the book

will be out!

 

Michael wrote:

If your products are only sold within one state, the

question of being

under

Federal laws is being worked out at this time. As a

matter of

courtesy, if

nothing else, you should put the ingredients on the

label. Many states

require this anyway.

A few states, especially Pennsylvania, California, and

Wisconsin, have

tighter laws which must be checked out.

There are a few herbs which are not supposed to be

included in

anything, but

sometimes are anyway. Among those are Sassafras and

Chaparral. There are regulations against these which

are currently not being heavily

enforced.

 

--Great...I live in Pennsylvania. Ok, so how do I go

about checking out those tighter laws you spoke of?

Any idea which branch of the government to pester?

After I first finished nutrition school, right before

I moved back East, I did call around a bit to find out

what I could and couldn't do with my shiny new

certificate and the gov folks here in PA were

clueless. At that point I just figured I'd deal with

it when I was ready to start the biz. Well, here I am

- all ready and NOT wanting to run into any brick

walls. I hope to sell my stuff in maw and paw type

places only in this state...that should make things

less complicated.

Cool, I'll stay clear of using Sassafras or Chapparal.

I guess those are more or less lumped into the

*questionable* group with the aforementioned comfrey,

huh?

Oh, and I'd always label my goods. I'm a nice girl;)

 

Thanks again,

Erica

 

 

 

 

 

Health - Feel better, live better

http://health.

[Guest guest]

One other piece of advice hon that may be redundant, but needs to be said anyway, just in case others out there are of like mind with you and want to start their own biz.

 

Always, always, always produce the best product you can. Never stint on your herbs when making a preparation. Go for the highest quality herbs you can find regardless of price. If they ain't organic, don't use 'em commercially ;o) This rule doesn't necessarily apply to the home user as any herbal preparation is better than none, but for going commercial, the rule should be carved in stone.

 

Whenever I make up a formula, 3/4'ers of the container is always filled with the organic plant matter. Many herbalists don't do this and get a minimum amount of biochemical extraction, and this can give herbalists a bad name when their preparations don't work as well.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Dr. Ian Shillington505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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erica feldman

herbal remedies

Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:05 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 1487

Doc wrote:At this time the herb which is causing the most problems for herbal companies isComfrey, and you can rest assured that if you promote products whichcontain Comfrey you'll be hit even though there are no "laws" yet which stateit is illegal. The problem the FDA and the pharmaceuticals have withthis, is that the stuff will grow in just about ever state there is andthey'd have to nuke 3/4's of America to stop us from using it. Ithink it is a great idea for you to start up your own company and produceyour own products and I wish you all the best. The more independentHerbal Manufacturing businesses out there, the better I like it and thebetter chance we all have of winning out against the multinationalpbarmaceuticals. --Yes, it's a shame about the uproar over comfrey.This goes back to the other conversation here on thelist regarding standardization and separatingconstituents from herbs. I dunno...I've used comfreywith amazing results and have never heard any negativestories on doing so. Guess it's gotta be something themeanies have to pick on;) In any case, thanks for thekind words, and be sure to let us know when the bookwill be out!Michael wrote:If your products are only sold within one state, thequestion of being underFederal laws is being worked out at this time. As amatter of courtesy, ifnothing else, you should put the ingredients on thelabel. Many statesrequire this anyway.A few states, especially Pennsylvania, California, andWisconsin, havetighter laws which must be checked out.There are a few herbs which are not supposed to beincluded in anything, butsometimes are anyway. Among those are Sassafras andChaparral. There are regulations against these whichare currently not being heavily enforced.--Great...I live in Pennsylvania. Ok, so how do I goabout checking out those tighter laws you spoke of?Any idea which branch of the government to pester?After I first finished nutrition school, right beforeI moved back East, I did call around a bit to find outwhat I could and couldn't do with my shiny newcertificate and the gov folks here in PA wereclueless. At that point I just figured I'd deal withit when I was ready to start the biz. Well, here I am- all ready and NOT wanting to run into any brickwalls. I hope to sell my stuff in maw and paw typeplaces only in this state...that should make thingsless complicated.Cool, I'll stay clear of using Sassafras or Chapparal.I guess those are more or less lumped into the*questionable* group with the aforementioned comfrey,huh?Oh, and I'd always label my goods. I'm a nice girl;)Thanks again,Erica Health - Feel better, live betterhttp://health.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

This reminds me of what my sister went through in California. All she wanted

to do was sell comic books. So she called various agencies and asked what she

had to do in order to legally do a retail and wholesale business. They gave

her about 10 different forms that had to be filled out, told her that she'd

have to pay about $800 in fees, told her that they'd have to be able to search

her home at any time to make sure the premesis was safe to work in. (She

lives way out in the woods and the place is only safe for her, the kid, and

various critters. Anyone else is risking their lives setting foot on her

property.) After all that, nobody could assure her that this was it. At any

time after going into business, she could have suddenly been harrassed by some

little-known bureaucracy for not having been properly registered.

 

At one point i had a really good job possibility in California. This was the

main reason why i chose not to pursue it.

 

My understanding is that in Pennsylvania every product sold for human

consumption has to be registered with the State Department of Agriculture.

Beyond that, i don't know anything.

 

I would strongly suggest that you find a mom and pop health food store, get to

know the owners, and get information from them.

 

Also there is a trade paper for the natural food industry, which often reports

on government difficulties and changes. Haven't seen an issue in a while, but

they were very good. All i know is that it's published in Boulder, and that

about 5 years ago subscriptions were free for retailers and producers. That

would be the best way to get updated on all this.

 

On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:05:31 -0700 (PDT) erica feldman <hlthgrl5275

wrote:

 

>

> --Great...I live in Pennsylvania. Ok, so how do

> I go

> about checking out those tighter laws you spoke

> of?

> Any idea which branch of the government to

> pester?

> After I first finished nutrition school, right

> before

> I moved back East, I did call around a bit to

> find out

> what I could and couldn't do with my shiny new

> certificate and the gov folks here in PA were

> clueless. At that point I just figured I'd deal

> with

> it when I was ready to start the biz. Well,

> here I am

> - all ready and NOT wanting to run into any

> brick

> walls. I hope to sell my stuff in maw and paw

> type

> places only in this state...that should make

> things

> less complicated.

> Cool, I'll stay clear of using Sassafras or

> Chapparal.

> I guess those are more or less lumped into the

> *questionable* group with the aforementioned

> comfrey,

> huh?

> Oh, and I'd always label my goods. I'm a nice

> girl;)

>

> Thanks again,

> Erica

>